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Anthony Ward6 Anthony Ward6 Active Member
60 messages
joined May 2018
#5301 ·
driftingotter47 said:Makeup and influencers... I guess that's just how things go now.

I guess it’s pretty obvious why I tend to steer clear of this subforum.😬Honestly, I just can't help it—I’m getting such a kick out of Mamićev's "comeback" that I simply couldn't resist.

Honestly, I guess when Dinamo is playing poorly, my day actually turns out a little bit better. 🙂

analogheron19 said:If that's how you see it.👍

Just wanted to give you a quick shout-out and say thanks for everything you've done with those charity drives.

I guess you and I already know each other. 😉
Terry Smith6 Terry Smith6 Member
14 messages
joined Oct 2013
#5302 ·
Susan Ward23;75221649 said:I think it’s pretty obvious why I tend to steer clear of this specific sub-forum (😬)... but seeing how much everyone is obsessing over Mamićev's supposed "comeback," I just couldn't help myself.

Honestly, when Dinamo is struggling, it actually makes my day a little brighter. 🙂

It is just that typical, ego-driven nonsense you see from the Tovar crowd... though, frankly, it has been obvious for ages that most of you lot hate Dinamo far more than you could ever love Hajduk, but please, enough already... there are moments when your bitterness makes you almost more loathsome than a group of die-hard extremists, and even saying "almost" feels like a massive understatement.
Richard Lewis16 Richard Lewis16 Active Member
221 messages
joined Sep 2009
#5303 ·
analogheron19 said:We’re basically the only club on the planet without any real opposition... nobody even attempts to step up or shows a shred of interest in actually taking over the reins.
The way I see it... fans are stuck choosing between a mafia-style syndicate that’s already proven they couldn't care less about the supporters—honestly, they seem more interested in crushing the fan base entirely—and some other group that might, just maybe, not be actively trying to destroy us.

Well, it’s not quite the only one, but damn, what you're saying is unfortunately spot on...

It’s just infuriating when it looks like this little clique is actually the biggest obstacle to anyone ever taking the club back from the family business.
Part of me wants to see them crash and burn, because that would probably tear their whole system apart, and God knows I hope the Mamić family loses everything they've built through years of legal battles... but then again, I really don't want to see a new generation of kids fighting a new set of criminals for the next ten years.

Looking back at that message like a total amateur, I used to think it was so misguided, but now I realize just how much it hits the nail on the head...

I don't know, how do you even... 😁
Douglas Lopez94 Douglas Lopez94 Member
32 messages
joined Sep 2013
#5304 ·
I haven't seen any posts from casualRi yet—is there something specific you want me to tackle? Give me the source text and I'll get to work rewriting it into that long, blunt, and slightly combative style we discussed. Just drop the content here. kaže:
Look, I agree that we shouldn't underestimate the sheer political muscle of the Republican Party—they have it down to a science—but you’re making the exact same mistake by underestimating the power of the streets. Right now, this country feels like a pen full of sheep watching while wolves pick them off one by one. And what is society doing? We’re just standing there, watching. Does a critical mass even exist in this country that would actually stand up to the wolves? Honestly, besides the hardcore sports fans, I don't see it. We’re basically just a bunch of bystanders. Instead of charging at those wolves and giving them hell, we’re hanging out behind the barn, fighting amongst ourselves, eating, drinking, and sleeping while everything goes to hell. That’s the reality of it. And the worst part? When the wolves finally go after one of us, the rest of us just stand around laughing and mocking the guy for struggling. It's pathetic.

Zoran Mamić was presented to the public today simply because he can. Let’s be real—every single scandal in this country happens because they have the clearance to pull it off. And what do we do? We sit on the sidelines, playing devil's advocate and looking for excuses for them. The absolute peak of this idiocy is how we're served these retarded, binary divisions—Left vs. Right, Republicans vs. Democrats, partisan vs. reactionary, or just some other meaningless choice between two equally useless options. It’s pathetic. We’re basically gnawing on a bone while they sit back and laugh at us. Some things need to be set in motion for the sake of America and for our children—not for the benefit of one political party, some specific club, or whatever little clique is currently in power. Is that really too much to ask?

Looking at this from an outside perspective... honestly, this is the only post here that actually makes sense and hits the nail right on the head. Bravo.👍
For America and for our kids—that’s where we start.
ironpanther4 ironpanther4 Member
17 messages
joined Apr 2019
#5305 ·
analogheron19 said:It really depends on who you're talking about... if we're looking at the players and Bjelica, I think giving them any grief would be pretty foolish. But as for everyone else? They shouldn't get an inch of leeway... honestly, they never deserved it in the first place.

Asolutno, I'm right there with you. Bjelica and the players—regardless of how unprofessional some of them might have been in the past—don't deserve any insults. If anything, they should be supported. They're here to give their all on the field, and they actually do a great job at it. To be honest, I couldn't care less if one of them happens to praise Mamić; that's their business. That’s where we differ from the mindless crowd. For example, those people get worked up about Srna potentially returning just because he didn't boycott the national team. Or how they won't leave Dalton alone, constantly picking on him until he eventually moves on (at the latest by September).
Jonathan Edwards8 Jonathan Edwards8 Member
29 messages
joined Apr 2019
#5306 ·
ironpanther4 said:I completely agree. Bjelica and the players—regardless of how small-time some might seem—don't deserve any insults. In fact, they’re here to give it their all on the field, and they do a great job at it. I couldn't care less if one of them praises Mamić here and there; that's their business. That's where we differ from the mindless crowd. For instance, people get worked up about Srna potentially returning just because he didn't boycott the national team. Or they won't leave Dalton Jr. alone, picking on him until his inevitable departure (at the latest by September).

LOL

Based on your logic, what's actually the difference between mercenaries who "just" cheered for their club, the players, and those celebrating trophies?

It isn't just the players; it's the coaches too. They are all part of the club!

While it might not matter much today or tomorrow, if you find it perfectly fine to "cheer for" and support people who extend a hand to criminals, then you really ought to take a hard look at your own convictions, your ideals, and your life.
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#5307 ·
Jonathan Edwards8 said:LOL

What’s the actual difference between mercenaries who were "just" cheering for their club, playing for the badge, and celebrating trophies, according to your logic?

It isn't just about the players; it includes the coaches too. They are all part of the organization!

Sure, things might be different today, but if you think it's perfectly fine to "root" for people who shake hands with criminals, then you really need to take a hard look at your own values, your principles, and your entire way of life.

They aren't supporting criminals; they’re supporting their bosses, their CEOs, or their presidents. And let's be real—their main focus is naturally on their paychecks, their bonuses, and their transfer fees...
It's the exact same crap as when members of some hardcore street gang blindly follow every single command and instruction from their leader, even when they don't agree with half of what's happening or don't share those views... yet they stay in the group anyway. In this second scenario, any fan who claims to have "history" with a team should probably take a good look in the mirror and spit at what they see before they start demanding anything different from the players.☕
shadowwolf15 shadowwolf15 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2023
#5308 ·
Jacob Newman74 said:Look, I agree we shouldn't underestimate the Republican Party's grip on things, but you're seriously overlooking the power of the people—or lack thereof. Right now, this country feels like a pen full of sheep just waiting for the wolves to pick them off one by one. Everyone just stands there watching. There isn't a critical mass in America willing to actually stand up to the predators, unless you count some sports hooligans. We're basically just a bunch of bystanders—instead of charging at the wolves to give them hell, we’re hanging out behind the barn fighting, drinking, and sleeping. That's the reality. And when a wolf finally goes after one of us? The rest of us just laugh and make jokes while they struggle.

Zoran Mamić is being presented today simply because he can be. Every scandal in this country happens because they have the room to do it. It happens because we stand on the sidelines looking for excuses. And the absolute peak of this stupidity? These retarded, manufactured divisions—Left vs. Right, Democrat vs. Republican, Red State vs. Blue State... it's all nonsense. We're just gnawing on bones while they laugh at us. Some things need to be done for the sake of America and our kids—not for some political party, some club, or some specific faction.

👍
bluebear42 bluebear42 Newcomer
4 messages
joined May 2020
#5309 ·
analogheron19, you should run for office in Washington, D.C., and then aim for Congress. That’s the only way we actually shift the fight onto their home turf. If we could secure at least three representatives from cities like Seattle and Miami, our voices would finally carry weight. We need to be the ones influencing the very laws they’re trying to use to shut us down. Right now, even small-time crooks are messing with court rulings—it's a joke—so imagine what the actual organized crime syndicates can do when they basically own the government. In my view, there are only two ways to force change: putting pressure on them through grassroots advocacy groups and fighting them in Congress to keep them on their toes.

PS: Just like how you absolutely crushed it during that RTL interview, that’s exactly how we need to take them down in Congress.
shadowwolf15 shadowwolf15 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2023
#5310 ·
Seriously, how can half of you see a problem with BBB when these guys practically burned themselves out fighting for us?
They aren't some pathetic little army—they're just a group of die-hard fans.
Honestly, this whole situation with the Daltons is just a perfect example of where our society is headed.
If the younger generation won't step up... well, they aren't as naive as we idealistic types were.
wanderingfox86 wanderingfox86 Member
11 messages
joined Jan 2024
#5311 ·
analogheron19 said:It’s not that they’re actually out there providing support for criminals—it’s much more calculated than that. What they’re really doing is looking out for their bosses, their executives, and their political leaders. And naturally, their priorities are always going to be centered around their own interests—things like their salaries, those sweet performance bonuses, and high-level job transfers. It’s all about self-preservation and upward mobility within the hierarchy.
It’s honestly the same exact dynamic you see when members of some die-hard sports fan club blindly follow every single instruction from their group leaders—even when they don't agree with half the calls being made or the decisions being handed down... yet, they just stay part of the pack anyway. When it comes to the fans who have been around for years—those "old guard" types—they really need to take a good, hard look in the mirror. Honestly, they should probably spit at the reflection they see there before they even think about demanding anything from the players on the field.☕

+1

One clan, one vote.
Megan Moore60 Megan Moore60 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2011
#5312 ·
Could someone give me a quick breakdown here? I’m feeling a little lost... I always assumed that if you were facing criminal charges, you were immediately barred from holding any kind of position within the club. I mean, didn't some total pariah have to step down recently because of that exact reason? Or does it actually come down to whether a verdict has become legally binding first?
Nancy Sanchez31 Nancy Sanchez31 Active Member
112 messages
joined Apr 2023
#5313 ·
Signing a cash deal.
Look, we aren't trashing Serena Williams just because she’s been staying quiet like a coward for fifteen years; it's because the guy is a piece of work and he surrounds himself with losers. I mean, sure, we know he gets along with Stimac—that's point one. But then there's the fact that he left under some pretty shady circumstances, plus nobody actually knows the real numbers on those transfer fees, much like the situation with Pletikosa. Honestly, I don't get how anyone could look at them and see decent, honest people. To me, they're just trash.
If the CFA ends up coming into the club, Stimac might end up getting all the inside info directly. Maybe that’s a stretch, but hey, once you get burned, you learn.
Let them keep doing whatever they want...
Kyle Davis2 Kyle Davis2 Active Member
160 messages
joined Mar 2014
#5314 ·
Christian Miller48 said:Can someone give me a quick breakdown? I'm a little lost here... I always assumed that if you were facing criminal charges, you couldn't hold any positions within the club. Didn't some absolute disaster leave the organization recently because of that exact reason? Or is this more about whether a court ruling has actually become final?

The Real Madrid director actually had to step down lately thanks to a report from the DOT. Word on the street from the DOT is that the President of Real Madrid and even a board member might be forced out pretty soon too.

analogheron19 said:We are literally the only club in the world without a legitimate opposition. There isn't a single soul who—even if they actually wanted to—could even come close to stepping up or showing an ounce of interest in joining.
The way I see it... fans are basically being forced to choose between a mafia that has already proven they don't care about the supporters—in fact, they seem hell-bent on destroying them—and some other group that might, just maybe, not be total crooks.

On that note, does anyone have a photo of that "we are the ones we've been waiting for" banner? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#5315 ·
bluebear42 said:analogheron19, you should run for office in Washington, D.C. and get into Congress. That’s the only way we actually move the fight onto their home turf. Same goes for Seattle and Miami—if we get at least three representatives from those spots, our voices might actually carry some weight. Then, over time, we can start influencing the very laws they’re using to try and ban us. Right now, even small-time crooks are messing with court rulings (just look at that Daravurac mess), so imagine what the actual mafia can do when they basically own the government. In my view, the only way out is a two-pronged attack: pressure them through grassroots associations and hit them in Congress so they actually feel the heat.

PS: Just like how you absolutely destroyed Vrba on RTL, that's exactly how we need to tear them apart in Congress.

Our struggle won't mean a damn thing until every single fan group stands up together against the criminals.
We’ve had so many chances, so many excuses, and so many opportunities... but we blew it all. We just kept scoring own goals.
Honestly? We’re all getting exactly what we deserve.
Jerry Morris2 Jerry Morris2 Active Member
79 messages
joined Dec 2013
#5316 ·
Christian Miller48 said:Could someone provide a brief explanation? I'm a bit lost here... I was under the impression that if criminal proceedings are brought against you, you are barred from holding any positions within the club. Didn't some disgraced individual recently leave their post because of this? Or does it specifically require a final, binding judgment?

Under the Sports Act, the verdict must be final and legally binding.

Following up on Kežual—with whom I find myself in total agreement—he seems to overlook the sheer stupidity of certain fans. They consistently vote for the worst possible options for their own interests... things like the local corrupt machine or those populist mayors...
shadowwolf15 shadowwolf15 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2023
#5317 ·
analogheron19 said:Our fight means nothing if the fan groups won't actually stand together against the corruption.
We’ve had so many chances—so many opportunities and so many warnings—and we just blew it... we kept scoring our own goals.
Honestly? We’re all getting exactly what we deserve.

Look, my people have been suggesting this forever, and they still are.
Why don't you guys just form a single organization so you can actually speak with one voice?
Because nobody else seems to care about this besides us.
Megan Moore60 Megan Moore60 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2011
#5318 ·
"There’s all this noise coming out of Real Madrid lately, and you can hear people talking about it everywhere—from the local news to the quiet corners of the sports bars. The main theory floating around is that Real Madrid has basically become a target for organized crime syndicates here in the States. Their whole plan is to grab enough influence to call an extraordinary meeting and just stage a complete takeover. Apparently, once they have their hands on the club, they intend to pull a similar stunt to seize control of the USSF as well."

I honestly can't tell if I'm reading some kind of satirical comedy piece in the papers or what 😁

It’s absolutely shameful. You have this criminal element trying to push certain people out of Real Madrid, yet they still have the nerve to think they can gather a majority at a meeting and take over the club through what they claim is a democratic process 🤣🤣

Tomorrow, I’ll probably be reading a headline about how Plonky is running to the FBI because the Democratic Party is planning to seize a majority in Congress during the next election cycle.
bluebear42 bluebear42 Newcomer
4 messages
joined May 2020
#5319 ·
analogheron19 said:Our struggle means absolutely nothing until every single fan group stands up together against the corruption.
We’ve had so many opportunities, so many excuses, and so many chances to step up... yet we blew it all. We basically scored on our own net over and over again.
Honestly? We have exactly what we deserve.

I’d truly love to see that uprising happen. Forget "ultras shouldn't get involved in politics"—when there is zero political oversight, only criminals remain.
If we actually want to improve things—firstly for soccer and then for the country—I think we've already exhausted all other options. If everyone actually showed up with some real skin in the game instead of just talking, we could be in a great spot within a few years.
It makes no sense to me: if we can all rally together for charity work, why can't we unite just once for our own sake? We constantly complain about how "stupid" people are for following along like sheep, but the truth is, we're acting the exact same way.

Jerry Morris2, regarding your point about people voting for the Republicans or local mayors—I personally believe anyone who has ever been part of a supporter group would vote for our list or our party first. After that, it just comes down to whether those elected individuals actually do their jobs well enough to earn a second term. Besides, a huge portion of us haven't even shown up to the polls.
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#5320 ·
shadowwolf15 said:I know my people have been suggesting this forever, even up until today.
Why don't you guys just get organized together so you can actually make an impact in the media?
Nobody else gives a damn about this besides us.

It’s honestly baffled me all this time why we haven't pushed for changes to the Sports Act together, or why we haven't gone about Founding a joint supporters association and hitting the streets with one unified voice...
We're all in the same boat here. Some of us are more deep in it than others, but we're all smoking the same stuff...

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