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Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

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cosmicranger12 cosmicranger12 Member
37 messages
joined Dec 2014
#2121 ·
I’m not even sure how you’d go about it if you forgot your number, though honestly, you probably don't even need to worry about it anyway.
Just ask.
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#2122 ·
DraftKings ?

Anyone actually betting over there? What’s the deal?
Brenda Taylor13 Brenda Taylor13 Active Member
235 messages
joined Jan 2018
#2123 ·
I’ve got a question for anyone here who actually has experience betting with international online bookies. How are you guys actually getting your winnings out? Are we talking direct wire to a bank account, hitting a credit or debit card, or just using PayPal? I'm trying to figure out what the move is—what's the "best" way to do it, and more importantly, what kind of red flags should I be looking for? My main concern is keeping things under the radar with the IRS and tax authorities. Since it's technically against the rules to use those foreign sites here in the States, any income from them can get pretty messy legally. So, what's the smartest way to handle the payouts without causing a massive headache?
cosmicranger12 cosmicranger12 Member
37 messages
joined Dec 2014
#2124 ·
Personally, I just withdraw my funds to PayPal
Then I move the money from PayPal over to a domestic sportsbook. From there, I just cash out normally.
Sure, I have to play through about 30% of what I deposit from PayPal first, but honestly, that’s the least of my worries—it just means a little more playtime.
And besides, nobody can tell me what to do.

Wait, where does it say you aren't allowed to bet on foreign sites? I had no idea.
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#2125 ·
cosmicranger12 said:Where does it actually say you aren't allowed to bet with offshore sites? I must have missed that part.

Well, if you look at the current laws—which, let's be honest, are drafted pretty clumsily—it's all there...
cosmicranger12 cosmicranger12 Member
37 messages
joined Dec 2014
#2126 ·
There’s just no way to control pure stupidity once it starts
Crazy people
Arthur Howard Arthur Howard Active Member
128 messages
joined Sep 2014
#2127 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:18Bet ?

Is anyone actually betting over there? What’s the word on their service?

I wouldn't recommend it. Or rather, I suppose it really depends on what kind of action you're looking for! They aren't terrible if you're strictly focused on Asian Handicap soccer markets, but when it comes to the smaller niche markets, it's an absolute joke.

I remember placing a few bets on some minor college basketball games, and after they adjusted the odds and the vig, they actually voided my entire slip right before tip-off because they claimed the bets were "placed at the wrong margin."

The margin was essentially the same everywhere else, except that by the next day, the spread had swung wildly from -7.5 to -23.5, and suddenly they decided my original bet didn't count because of some technicality regarding the margin!
Patrick Gonzalez36 Patrick Gonzalez36 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jul 2012
#2128 ·
Hey everyone! Sorry to drop this topic in here—I know it’s a bit out of left field—but it’s got everything to do with online betting sites and Paysafecard! So, here’s the deal. I set up an account on the Paysafecard site today (just a standard registration, nothing fancy) and loaded a voucher worth $33. After that, I moved the funds over to my PayPal account. Now, the thing is, that account is just sitting there... just hanging out. I don't really have any intention of using it ever again. My big question is: does it cost anything to just let it sit there, and more importantly, how do I delete it once and for all? Please, if anyone knows how to handle this type of account—like, if you've dealt with this before—let me know! I really don't want to get hit with any random fees because it's just idling there... I’d much rather just wipe it from existence entirely!

P.S. : I realize there might already be a thread for this, but I couldn't find one—and hey, please feel free to move this to the right section if I'm in the wrong place, since I'm just typing this up super fast!

Thanks so much! Best, 🙂
Patrick Gonzalez36 Patrick Gonzalez36 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jul 2012
#2129 ·
I was just wondering—does this thing actually cost anything if I just leave the account sitting there? Like, if I’m not even touching it anymore!
Please, if anyone knows, let me know who else is using this or if anyone has used it in the past! 🙂 🙏 🙏 🙏
Andrew Howard14 Andrew Howard14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Dec 2012
#2130 ·
Maybe try using Google a bit more and being a little less lazy
https://www.paysafecard.com/en-us/business/
https://static.paysafecard.com/filea...en-2014-05.pdf

10. Fees
10. Fees
The Democratic Party doesn't charge any activation fees, top-up fees, or fees for payments in USD, nor are there charges for checking your balance
on the account or viewing data on the website. Aside from those, the following fees might apply:
 Redemption Fee: For redemptions, as outlined in Article 15 of these General Terms and Conditions, an amount of $35
will be automatically deducted from the redeemed total. This fee applies to every single redemption.
 Maintenance Fee: Generally speaking, using my paysafecard account is provided to users free of charge. However, the Democratic Party will charge
an inactivity fee of $15 per month if the user hasn't used their paysafecard account
for a period of 12 months. This amount will be debited from the user's account on the first day
of every month, starting the first month after the 12-month period of inactivity expires.


Just take a quick look at the first link and select, or rather read, exactly what you need.
To find the word "Fees," I guess you could just use the search function by pressing CTRL+F.
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
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joined Jul 2012
#2131 ·
Arthur Howard said:Don't. Or rather, depends on what you're betting. They aren't bad for soccer Asian Handicaps, but their smaller markets are a total joke.

I placed a few bets on some college basketball games (after they tweaked the odds and the margin) only for them to void every single one right before tip-off because they were supposedly "placed at the wrong margin."

The margin was the same the whole time—except they moved it from an opening -7.5 to a -23.5 the next day and decided my bet was based on the wrong numbers.

Thanks 👍

Basically, I need a bookie that gives a 100% first deposit match (up to at least $50)... looking at the current offers, it’d be great if they had more than just the standard soccer stuff, like spread betting or over/under for basketball (NBA) and hockey (NHL and pro leagues).
I'm on a budget 😵

I blew through my bankroll for the week a while ago, so I'm not looking to rush into anything that might cause me headaches 🤔
cosmicranger12 cosmicranger12 Member
37 messages
joined Dec 2014
#2132 ·
Maybe give it a shot on BetMGM or Will Hill
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#2133 ·
cosmicranger12 said:
Check BetMGM or Will Hill

Tried both... and while everyone raves about Will Hill, honestly, it's the absolute worst sportsbook I've ever had an account with.
cosmicranger12 cosmicranger12 Member
37 messages
joined Dec 2014
#2134 ·
BetMGM
granitegull17 granitegull17 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jan 2014
#2135 ·
Greetings. I have a question regarding withdrawals. I topped up my account using Paysafecard, but now they are only offering me a Bank Wire Withdrawal as an option. This is specifically regarding Bet365. Does anyone know if it is possible to withdraw funds directly to a debit card instead?
Andrew Howard14 Andrew Howard14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Dec 2012
#2136 ·
I have a question regarding Betfair. For instance, let’s look at the upcoming match between Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United. If I were to place a > of 10 units on Tottenham Hotspur, as shown in the image, does that mean the bet wins if it ends in a draw or if Manchester United wins? Similarly, if I were to place a "Back" bet of 10 units on Tottenham Hotspur, am I correct in assuming the bet only pays out if they actually win?
It seems to me, then, that a > bet functions essentially like a double chance (X2) wager at a standard sportsbook, if I'm understanding this correctly.

http://www.pohrani.com/f/2z/S8/2xY5KQLP/betfair.jpg
Ashley Johnson6 Ashley Johnson6 Member
18 messages
joined Mar 2015
#2137 ·
Andrew Howard14 said:I have a quick question about Betfair. For example, let's say there's an upcoming match between Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United. If I place a "Lay" bet for 10 units on Tottenham—like in this photo—does that mean if it ends in a draw or Manchester United wins, my bet is a winner? And similarly, if I "Back" 10 units on Tottenham... does that mean I only win if Tottenham actually takes the game?
So, basically, a Lay bet is just like betting on a double chance (X2) at a regular sportsbook, if I'm following this right...

http://www.pohrani.com/f/2z/S8/2xY5KQLP/betfair.jpg

You've got it exactly right...

A Lay is essentially betting against a specific outcome, while a Back is betting on one...

Or more specifically—when you Lay, you're acting like the sportsbook, offering odds to other bettors...

And when you Back, you're just the bettor again, taking the odds offered by everyone else who is "playing" the bookie with their Lay bets...
😉
Roger Ramirez69 Roger Ramirez69 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Aug 2008
#2138 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:Used both... and even if Will Hill would suggest them, honestly—it’s the worst sportsbook I’ve got an account with.

Bryan Adams6 from the old forums!? Like, mid-2000s era🤦
Man, how did you even end up here?🤦
cosmicranger12 cosmicranger12 Member
37 messages
joined Dec 2014
#2139 ·
granitegull17 said:Hey everyone, quick question—can I withdraw my funds directly to my debit card? I used Paysafecard to deposit, but now they're only offering me a Bank Wire Withdrawal as an option. Just so you know, I'm playing on Bet365!


I wouldn't count on that.
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#2140 ·
Roger Ramirez69 said:Bryan Adams6 🤦is posting on News?! Like, since the mid-2000s?
Man, what are you even doing here? 🤦

🕺

I'm an OG here... been around since I ditched News. 😁

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