Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

Arthur Howard said:Players here in the States can't use Skrill for deposits on Unibet anymore. They actually phased out that payment method a while back.

You should consider opening an account with 888sport. Their betting selection is just as comprehensive as what you'll find at Unibet, but they offer the added convenience of being able to deposit via Skrill.

I agree that 888sport seems like a decent bookmaker in terms of their betting options, but I personally ran into some issues when it came to getting my money out. I made a minimum deposit, had a nice little winning streak, and then requested a withdrawal via Neteller. I waited for two days, and absolutely nothing happened. In the end, I just cancelled the withdrawal request, decided to blow through the entire balance on purpose, and said my goodbyes to them.

Arthur Howard said:Man, it’s such a headache—players here in the States can't even use Skrill to top up their Unibet accounts anymore. They pulled the plug on that payment method a while back, and honestly, it's just another thing to deal with.

You should really look into opening an account over at 888sport. Honestly, their lineup is just as solid as what you’ll find at Unibet—everything you're looking for is right there—but they actually give you the option to fund your account through Skrill, which makes life a whole lot easier.

It’s because they’re running on the exact same platform as Unibet—they’re actually under the same parent company—but they don't touch the same user database or the cashier system.

First off, hello to everyone here. I’m jumping onto this forum because of all these recent changes hitting us bettors; I just signed up because I have a few questions about the world of online wagering. I’m a bit older, and as most people my age know, we aren't exactly digital natives—especially when it comes to placing bets through a screen—so I could use some guidance. It feels like my generation is being pushed toward the internet by these new tax laws, even though we’re far from being tech-savvy. My main goal is to figure out which online sportsbooks are actually worth it—where I can find the best odds, whether I'm looking at single bets or building parlays, and how the whole deposit and withdrawal process works. From what I've been reading lately, it seems like Betfair and PINNACLE are the heavy hitters for single bets. Am I on the right track there? Also, I’d appreciate any advice on which platforms are best for stacking parlays. Thanks in advance for the help, and please excuse my ignorance; I likely have more years of experience under my belt than many of you have had years of life. To joke a little, I’m essentially here on behalf of a few buddies of mine in their late 50s. We’ve been betting since long before legal sportsbooks were even a thing in the States, so navigating the internet feels like a massive hurdle for us. Thanks again for any insight you can offer.

Think of Betfair as a literal "exchange." It’s essentially a marketplace where you’re either placing a bet or acting as the house itself by offering odds for others to play against. Isn't that a fascinating way to look at it?

When it comes to single bets, I find Pinny to be absolutely fantastic! While their market coverage might be a bit more limited compared to the giants, they provide all the fundamental essentials—you know, the classic moneyline, over/under totals, and even corner markets for certain leagues.

Then there is bet365, which is truly stellar for accumulator bets (and singles too, of course!). Their selection of sports is just massive, and the depth of their markets is equally impressive. But if you ask me, they really shine in live betting because the sheer variety of matches and available wagers is simply unmatched.

As for SBO or Dafabet... those are your typical Asian books. They work quite well for singles or if you're looking to spread your action out, provided you aren't trying to move massive amounts given their somewhat smaller limits.

Combinators are best when you find the lowest margin—it’s really that simple...

John Bishop37 said:First off, hello everyone! With all these new regulations hitting us bettors, I actually just signed up for this forum because I’m trying to wrap my head around some online betting stuff. Look, I’m a bit older—and let’s be honest, people my age aren't exactly tech wizards, especially when it comes to gambling online—so I could really use some guidance. It sucks for my generation; these new tax laws are basically forcing us toward the internet, even though most of us feel totally out of our element with it. Primarily, I want to know which online sportsbooks are actually worth it—where can I find the best odds for both single bets and parlays? Also, what are the best ways to handle deposits and withdrawals, and anything else I should watch out for? From what I’ve been reading lately, it seems like Betfair and Summit are the top dogs for single bets. Did I get that right? Now, I also need your help figuring out which sites are best for building parlays. Thanks in advance for any help you can give—and don't take offense when I say I’ve probably been betting longer than half of you have even been alive! Just kidding, mostly. To be fair, I’m actually here on behalf of a few buddies of mine, all in that 55-to-60 range. We’ve been betting since long before there were even physical betting shops in the US or anywhere nearby, so yeah, the digital world is a massive hurdle for us. Thanks again for any pointers.

Basically, stick to Bet365 and Summit to start with—that’ll be plenty for you. When it comes to the actual odds, once you look at our local US sportsbooks with their ridiculous margins, hidden fees, and those nasty taxes on winnings, and then compare them to the international sites... man, none of the overseas options are even close to being worse than the domestic ones. Honestly, ever since the tax laws shifted back in 2015, trying to do any serious betting through local US books has become a total joke. Of course, unless you're chasing those impossible "lottery ticket" parlays where you stack 20 different games hoping for a payout of tens of thousands of dollars—if you actually hit one of those, well, I guess you won't care about the taxes or the shady fees!

Colleagues, I wanted to share a quick reflection on my experience accumulating reward points through Neteller.
Starting on December 1st, I ran a little experiment to see how quickly I could build up a balance. In just one month, I managed to amass an incredible 230,000 points—averaging about 7,000 per day. My plan now is to convert them into cash; specifically, 223,000 points can be redeemed for $150.

I didn't employ any particularly complex strategy. I simply rotated funds between two sportsbooks, Bet365 and DraftKings. On average, I would transfer money to my sportsbook account four times a day, followed by four withdrawals back to my Neteller account.

To ensure everything looked natural, I always placed a small wager before initiating a withdrawal, just enough to make sure the amounts weren't identical every single time. Throughout this entire month, I haven't encountered a single issue regarding my transactions.

What are your thoughts on this method of collecting points?

Hey everyone,
I was hoping you guys could help me out with a few things.

Since all winnings are being taxed here in the States starting next year, a buddy of mine mentioned that foreign online bookies might fly under the radar of the IRS.
I'm trying to figure out the best way to set up an account—specifically regarding deposits. Up until now, I’ve just been using my standard checking account, but I'm wondering which type of account is actually best for receiving payouts?
Also, does anyone know of a sportsbook with better odds on soccer draws? I need the ability to place bets on the 0-24 market. Do they tend to block those kinds of plays? I usually just put my money on a single draw.

steelangler12 said:Hey everyone,
looking for some advice on a few things.

Since all winnings are taxed in the US starting next year, an acquaintance told me foreign online sportsbooks aren't part of that system.
I'm wondering how to set up an account—specifically regarding deposits. I've been using a standard checking account so far, but which type of account should I use for withdrawals?
Are there any books with better soccer odds on the draw? I need the ability to bet on 0-24 markets. Also, do they ever block deposits? I usually just put money on a single draw.

Once you open an account at any sportsbook, they explicitly state your deposit and withdrawal options, including exactly which cards they accept. For comparing odds, just hit up Oddsportal to see which book offers the best line for the game you want. As far as I know, all the online books I've used allow bets on the 0-24 market. Deposits can be limited, though—meaning they might cap the maximum amount you can wager on a specific match. It really varies from one book to the next.

Does anyone know anything about BBW betting? Any intel out there??

Lawrence Castillo76 said:BBW sportsbook. Anyone actually know anything about this place??

Asking because of that tournament? Honestly, I hadn't even heard of this book until yesterday. 😵

But if the prizes are actually decent, I might give it a shot. 🕺

Bryan Adams6 said:Are you asking about that tournament? Honestly, I hadn't even heard of this sportsbook until yesterday. 😵

But hey, if the prizes are actually decent, I might give it a shot. 🕺

Nah, I don't care about the prizes—I just wanna know if it's a legit place to play or not.

Here are some of my personal reviews regarding the various sportsbooks I have utilized or experimented with over the years:

Pinnacle - (for all the "standard" sports). Their limits are truly fantastic! You can practically wager whatever amount your heart desires on a single outcome. Typically, you might see limits around 500 bucks for niche sports, scaling up to 40,000 bucks for major American sports. If you place a 500 buck bet on your preferred selection, they simply adjust the odds and perhaps the margin, allowing you to place another identical bet, and so on, indefinitely! Isn't that wonderful? Your first withdrawal each month is free, though subsequent ones incur a 12 buck fee. My only minor grievance is that their market depth—specifically for things like moneyline or over/under—is somewhat thin across all sports. They do offer corner markets for the big leagues, though. A MAJOR DRAWBACK when betting on player props (they have EuroLeague, and I believe they only add NBA players during the playoffs) is that the player MUST START for the wager to be valid.

bet365 - hands down the best live betting selection I have ever encountered! However, if you hit them too hard on a single match (like an ITF event, or maybe some volleyball or basketball from the local regional leagues), you should prepare to be limited to profits of just 6 to 36 bucks, depending on whether you are playing tennis or the Premier League. Before a match begins, limits fluctuate based on the specific market: perhaps 80 bucks for ITF, 160 for handball in smaller leagues, 300 to 360 for handball and basketball, up to 1,200 for the top five major leagues, and reaching as high as 3,600 for American sports. Generally, those amounts are about 4 or 5 times higher during live play, though limits are slightly tighter on derivative markets compared to the main match bets.

SBO - These guys are the Asian style books; they offer decent limits and actually provide a broader range of options than Pinnacle does (for instance, they offer halftime/fulltime results which Pinnacle lacks).

dafabet - I am under the impression they are actually the same company as SBO, so if your limit is 500 bucks at SBO, you could potentially drop 400 bucks at both without the odds dropping immediately. But beware, as soon as you approach that "max bet" threshold, the odds begin to shift instantly!

18bet - It is a similar situation there, except they can be incredibly difficult to deal with! They love to void bets if the margin shifts drastically. For example, if you bet on American basketball with a spread of -6.5, and it moves to -7, and continues all the way to -13.5, they might just cancel your bet entirely, claiming your wagers were placed at the wrong price and margin. On the bright side, they are quite good for soccer Asian handicaps, as they allow much larger stakes (around 1,000 bucks for the major leagues and roughly 400 bucks for those smaller, obscure matchups).

william hill - They will happily let you place singles of 200-300 bucks pre-match and live without any fuss, sometimes even up to 1,200 bucks. However, they eventually tighten up, limiting pre-match singles to about 35-40 bucks, though they still permit decent amounts for live betting. Regarding player props, there is a rule stating the player must play at least 15 minutes. I am not entirely certain if they offer NBA player props; I believe it is mostly for the EuroLeague.

BetMGM - They offer a very extensive selection of player props (especially in basketball). The downside is that you really need to keep your stakes around 25-30 bucks max unless you want to face immediate limitations. The owner of the sportsbook is Tony G (the poker player, who, if I recall correctly, is either a representative in the European Parliament or was recently running for a seat—I'm not entirely sure!).

Tipico (they don't accept players from America, but I would actually recommend them if you could access them, as they are willing to take 200-300 bucks on a single bet and are quite slow to adjust their odds!)

By all means, please avoid the following sportsbooks:
betway, bet2be, betvictor (which no longer accepts American players), betcity, marathon, Ladbrokes (which is essentially the same as Victor), betsafe, betsson, betclic, expekt, tempobet, titanbet, and winner.

The following list consists solely of low-limit sportsbooks; you might consider using them if you are just playing around with a few bucks (maybe 2 to 8, or perhaps 10).
Betcity and Tempobet—avoid these at all costs, or you might find yourself completely broke!

Hold on a second, this sounds absolutely terrible... I honestly thought overseas sportsbooks were better than this. Now you're telling me some of them cap you at like $200 or $300? That's basically nothing! Back home at DraftKings, I could drop $1,000 on a single tennis match without anyone blinking an eye—it was totally fine. I’d regularly put down bets worth $2,000 or $3,000—which works out to maybe $300 or $400 depending on the math—and they just took it. No big deal. But now you’re saying foreign books start hitting you with limits at those exact amounts? Man, I didn't realize things were actually that bad.

You're saying Bet365 limits your live betting to like $36(?!)—are you kidding me? That is straight-up garbage if it's true. At DraftKings, you could throw down a few thousand bucks without a problem, and even if you actually won, they wouldn't come after you with limits.

American potatoes, US potatoes 🙏 🤣 I'm broke...
you guys are legends!

btw, Arthur Howard described the situation perfectly...
and I'm pretty sure he was talking about those American potatoes 😉

Well, things are moving along quite nicely over here as well! You'll find that Pinny and BetMGM offer the most flexibility, though if you're looking at live betting, BetMGM is truly the standout choice, don't you think?
They cover plenty of ATP action too, so you really won't have much to worry about there! While they offer a bit less on the Challenger circuit—and even less on the ITF tours—you can still find some pretty decent limits on the ABA League.



Just a little word of caution, though: BetMGM might decide to limit your account if you try to place an absolutely massive wager on a single match—I'm talking about those smaller markets like the ITF, basketball, or anything that isn't a major powerhouse like the NBA or the UEFA Champions League.

However, if you're looking at something big like the Premier League, you could comfortably drop $10,000 without them batting an eye!

Oh, but I really must be careful with my wording since we aren't supposed to go around shouting specific figures, right? So, just to be perfectly clear, the amounts shown in that image above are in US dollars.

Look, mods, listen up—we aren’t sitting here picking specific matchups or debating individual bets, okay? This is a broad discussion about offshore sportsbooks and those ridiculous limits they slap on you. I mean, come on, anyone can see that talking about stakes and limits is a HUGE part of why people even care about foreign books in the first place. A little bit of flexibility wouldn't kill you guys.

Look, I get where you're coming from, but in cases like this, sticking strictly to the rulebook just doesn't make sense... I honestly don't see the point—these kinds of posts are actually way more useful and informative than 90% of the fluff we see in other threads

I just don't get the rigidness—why the bureaucratic "sorry, our hands are tied, it's the law" attitude?

It’s one thing when people are talking about placing bets, but here we're discussing LIMITS; for heaven's sake, if we can't talk about that, what exactly *can* we talk about?

You're going to drive away all the high-quality members from this forum if you keep pushing this kind of talk—I guarantee it
if that's the goal, then by all means, keep going... you're right on track!

because it's getting damn exhausting