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mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#181 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Actually, every lap completed behind the Safety Car is counted, with the sole exception being that very first formation lap. Furthermore, that peculiar standing start procedure is only utilized at the beginning of the race if weather conditions dictate a start behind the Safety Car; otherwise, every subsequent Safety Car period follows the exact same protocol we saw last year, where the car pulls in and the field accelerates out in a line.
If you are interested in diving deeper into the technicalities of these regulations, you might find more clarity here on page 35.


That actually sounds reasonable enough to me. It would be completely nonsensical to force a standing start after every single Safety Car deployment. That whole process takes forever—realigning the cars on the grid, running the formation lap, all that.

Just imagine they restart, someone wipes out in Turn 1, and you have to do the entire tedious routine all over again. Then it happens again a few laps later. There is simply no logic in it.
neonfox65 neonfox65 RegularOP
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#182 ·
FIA scraps the 'Max Verstappen rule' ahead of the 2017 season

Smart move by them... finally some common sense 🙏
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#183 ·
neonfox65 said:FIA scraps the 'Max Verstappen rule' ahead of the 2017 season

Smart move by them... finally some common sense 🙏

The FIA won't be the one handling him; Kimi will. I highly doubt the Finn has forgotten his place. Things are going to get messy during their first encounter on the track.😁
neonfox65 neonfox65 RegularOP
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#184 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Simone Resta is a freaking design genius—hands down... Don't act all shocked when you see Vettel sitting on pole in Australia—I won't be. I know something you guys don't... Gaius knows something, and his hunches always end up coming true...

mellowtiger83 said:Don't you guys get it yet? Ferrari is taking pole in Australia...

😂 😂 😂
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#185 ·
neonfox65 said:😂 😂 😂

I failed to account for the unique nature of this street circuit—one that happens to suit Hamilton perfectly—but I was close. Extremely close.

By the way, this marks Hamilton's sixth win on this track. If my memory serves me, I believe Schumacher hit that number as well, though I can't be entirely certain.
neonfox65 neonfox65 RegularOP
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#186 ·
🙂

Tomorrow, you and I are both pulling for Vettel 😁
neonfox65 neonfox65 RegularOP
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#187 ·
Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed with Red Bull. Being over a second behind the leader is just way too much—especially after all that hype about them having massive ups and downs 😢

If there had been a clause in his contract allowing Rick to move over to Mercedes in 2018... but man, I doubt Red Bull Racing would ever let him go.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#188 ·
If he keeps driving like he did today without a care in the world, they won't just kick him out of Red Bull; he won't even find a seat in a mid-tier car...

Red Bull is already looking for an excuse to drop a driver, and today was clearly just the fallout from him losing his cool...
I mean, Max has been breathing down his neck constantly. Even today, he was faster through the first two sectors, which is exactly why he started forcing it and ended up being a jerk...
What’s worse is that the second team isn't actually that far behind Red Bull, and since they have great drivers, the main crew definitely won't tolerate being sabotaged by the junior squad...

So don't sweat it, Daniel Ricciardo will be out of Red Bull in a heartbeat if he keeps this up. The real question is whether Mercedes-Benz would even want him...
neonfox65 neonfox65 RegularOP
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#189 ·
stormybadger8 said:If he keeps driving like he did today without a care in the world, they won't just kick him out of Red Bull; he won't even find a seat in a mid-tier car...

Red Bull is already looking for an excuse to drop a driver, and today was clearly just the fallout from him losing his cool...
I mean, Max has been breathing down his neck constantly. Even today, he was faster through the first two sectors, which is exactly why he started forcing it and ended up being a jerk...
What’s worse is that the second team isn't actually that far behind Red Bull, and since they have great drivers, the main crew definitely won't tolerate being sabotaged by the junior squad...

So don't sweat it, Daniel Ricciardo will be out of Red Bull in a heartbeat if he keeps this up. The real question is whether Mercedes-Benz would even want him...

What a drive though. He was actually faster than Max in everything until that one mistake...

Things are heating up at Red Bull Racing and they're looking to move a certain driver out—today was just the result of him getting too rattled...

Well, if they stay this bad, I'd love to see them push Daniel Ricciardo into that Mercedes seat instead🙂

Max was giving him trouble quite often last year,

And now Rick is doing it even more frequently🙂
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#190 ·
neonfox65 said:What a drive though. He was actually faster than Max in everything until that one mistake...

Things are heating up at Red Bull Racing and they're looking to move a certain driver out—today was just the result of him getting too rattled...

Well, if they stay this bad, I'd love to see them push Daniel Ricciardo into that Mercedes seat instead🙂

Max was giving him trouble quite often last year,

And now Rick is doing it even more frequently🙂

Yeah, sure, if you say so. 🙂
He was lagging about 0.300 behind Max in the first two sectors...
Max was outrunning Kimi at that moment, while Ricciardo was trailing behind—that’s exactly why he pushed like crazy in S3 and ended up hitting the wall.
neonfox65 neonfox65 RegularOP
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#191 ·
Whatever, man.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#192 ·
What does it matter if Daniel Ricciardo crashed? It isn't because he's performing poorly. Everyone crashes eventually. Honestly, these guys are driving right on the edge of what's possible.

Ayrton Senna had accidents, Michael Schumacher had accidents, Lewis Hamilton has had them, and Sebastian Vettel too. So what?
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#193 ·
mellowtiger83 said:What does it matter if Daniel Ricciardo crashed? It isn't because he's performing poorly. Everyone crashes eventually. Honestly, these guys are driving right on the edge of what's possible.

Ayrton Senna had accidents, Michael Schumacher had accidents, Lewis Hamilton has had them, and Sebastian Vettel too. So what?

Look, I don't care what they fought about. What bothers me is why they even started fighting in the first place.
And the answer to why they started fighting? As far as I know, it's just because neonfox65 is such a huge fan of his. 😉😁
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#194 ·
https://wtf1.com/post/turn-11-fan-vi...-f1s-new-cars/

😲🙏🙏🙏
Man, imagine if this happened at Spa-Francorchamps. 🙂
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#195 ·
stormybadger8 said:https://wtf1.com/post/turn-11-fan-vi...-f1s-new-cars/

😲🙏🙏🙏
Man, imagine if this happened at Spa-Francorchamps. 🙂

absolute madnessdiv>
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#196 ·
Honestly, you fans, the armchair journalists, and all the other geniuses out there...
When is everyone going to stop with the mindless, illogical whining? 😵

I’m already seeing idiots online crying because they were promised this year's Formula 1 cars would be 4-5 seconds faster, and since that hasn't happened, they're losing it. 🤦

Good grief, is basic math really that hard for Formula 1 fans to grasp? 😕

The rules were written back in 2015, promising lap times would be 4-5 seconds faster compared to 2015 !

So, let’s take a quick look at Australia:

Qualifying:
2017: 1:22.188
vs
2015: 1:26.327

That's 4.139 seconds faster. 🙂

Race distance:
2017: 1:26.538
vs
2015: 1:30.945

That's 4.407 seconds faster. 🙂

And yet, somehow that promise wasn't kept... honestly, I can't tell who the crazy one is anymore. 😵

What is actually wrong with these people? Is all they know how to complain about things being "bad," while having the nerve to throw out completely wrong data just to act like they're experts?

Then you've got the crowd that blindly believes everything they read online just because "that's what it says."
It never even occurs to them to think about what they're reading or—God forbid—actually check if the information is even true. 🙄
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#197 ·
stormybadger8 said:https://wtf1.com/post/turn-11-fan-vi...-f1s-new-cars/

😲🙏🙏🙏
Man, imagine if this happened at Spa-Francorchamps. 🙂

It’s not just Spa, though. It could happen on any track because these cars are going to get faster every single weekend.
If you listen to the post-race interviews from Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari, or Red Bull Racing, they all seem to agree on one thing: there is still massive room for development. 🙂

Monaco is going to be epic. I can hardly wait!
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#198 ·
Sebastian Vettel pulls off his best opening stretch for Ferrari since 2004

Honestly, that’s not even the biggest shocker here. 😁
What’s actually wild is this...
This is officially Vettel's best start to a season in years. Aside from back in 2011 when he grabbed two wins and a second place in the first three races, everything else has been pretty mediocre. 😁
neonfox65 neonfox65 RegularOP
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#199 ·
Has he still not managed to pull off a win after starting from 3rd or worse? 🙂
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#200 ·
stormybadger8 said:Sebastian Vettel pulls off his best opening stretch for Ferrari since 2004

Honestly, that’s not even the biggest shocker here. 😁
What’s actually wild is this...
This is officially Vettel's best start to a season in years. Aside from back in 2011 when he grabbed two wins and a second place in the first three races, everything else has been pretty mediocre. 😁

Don't forget—if Antonio Giovinazzi hadn't pulled that stupid stunt in China and caused a safety car, Vettel probably would've walked away with 3 wins in 3 races

And that's something nobody saw coming.

Mercedes-Benz still has the fastest car, but they aren't used to anyone actually breathing down their necks. Once someone starts pressing them, they clearly start tripping over themselves. It's no wonder they've just been coasting for the last 3 years. Get it? They aren't used to the pressure.

We'll see how it all plays out this season.

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