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silentridge4 silentridge4 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2009
#661 ·
Just one quick question
When I go to install Windows 7, should I just run the installer directly from within my current OS—basically popping in the DVD and letting it take over—or is it better to do the whole "reset" thing by jumping into the BIOS and setting the boot priority to the DVD drive first?
The thing is, I really want to keep everything sitting on my C drive where my current Windows XP setup and all my programs are right now—I'm definitely not looking to wipe anything out...

Thanks!
Melissa Watson4 Melissa Watson4 Member
24 messages
joined Dec 2008
#662 ·
silentridge4 said:just one thing
if I want to install Windows 7 now, should I just run it through the current OS—like, pop the DVD in and let it start—or should I go the old-school way, rebooting into the BIOS and setting the DVD as the boot drive?
I'm trying to keep my current Windows XP setup on the C drive along with all my programs; I don't want to wipe anything...

thanks

You’d probably need to set up a separate partition for the Windows 7 install if you want to leave the Windows XP setup alone on the C drive...☕
silentridge4 silentridge4 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2009
#663 ·
So, it looks like I won't be able to install Windows 7 directly on top of my current operating system—which, as of right now, is Windows XP
silentridge4 silentridge4 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2009
#664 ·
Hey there! Could someone please walk me through what these labels actually mean:
x32, x64, and x86

Thanks a bunch!
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#665 ·
Forget about x32, it’s useless now.

x64 is the 64-bit version.
x86 is the 32-bit version.

A 32-bit OS can only address up to 4GB of RAM—though in reality, you're probably looking at closer to 3.25GB.
The 64-bit versions can handle way more than today's standards, which is necessary for any machine running more than 4GB of RAM.
Mark Sanchez3 Mark Sanchez3 Active Member
101 messages
joined Feb 2009
#666 ·
silentridge4 said:Oh yeah, please explain to me what these labels actually mean:
x32,x64 and x86

thanks

The terms 32-bit and 64-bit refer to how the computer's processor, known as the CPU, handles data. Both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Windows are designed to run on computers equipped with either 32-bit or 64-bit processors respectively.

64-bit versions of Windows utilize more memory than the 32-bit versions. This reduces the time needed to transfer processes to and from memory because more of those processes can be stored directly in RAM instead of being swapped to the hard drive. As a result, you get better overall program performance.
Actually, it might be better to go with x86 since it supports just about everything, whereas x64 can run into issues with certain programs. And like I said, to actually make use of every single bit in a 64-bit version, you absolutely have to have a 64-bit processor! That said, the 64-bit OS is generally "higher quality"—meaning it's more stable and, as mentioned, faster.
Bottom line: if you're into gaming and running a bunch of different software, grab the 32-bit version of the OS and you won't have any trouble.

And yeah, just like Thomas Hernandez21 mentioned, x86 doesn't always support a full 4GB of RAM. Well, not always: on my machine, which is x86 (so, 32-bit), it recognizes all 4GB—it actually shows that it sees 4GB.

👍
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#667 ·
Mark Sanchez3 said:on my machine, which is x86 (so 32-bit), it shows all 4 GB are recognized, like it actually sees the full 4GB

Look, don't get mad at me, but 😁 it just says it recognizes 4GB while there's actually less available 😉 It's probably sitting at around 3325MB. My setup does the exact same thing—System Properties claims I have 4GB, but Task Manager and the usual tools always report 3325 😉 Because, theoretically speaking, it’s impossible for the OS to have the full 4GB all to itself 🙂
Mark Sanchez3 Mark Sanchez3 Active Member
101 messages
joined Feb 2009
#668 ·
Thomas Hernandez21 said:Look, don't get mad at me, 😁 but you're saying it recognizes 4GB even though there's less actually available 😉 It’s probably showing about 3325MB. I see the exact same thing on my System Properties where it claims 4GB, yet Task Manager and all the other tools always report 3325 😉 Because, theoretically speaking, it's impossible for the OS to have the full 4GB entirely to itself 🙂

Aha, thanks. Now I finally get it! Really, thanks! I honestly thought it was using the whole thing, but I guess it's just some clever way of tricking the user... 👍

I was actually just browsing online and stumbled upon this:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/is_wi...p2_in_disguise

It really gave me something to think about.🙂
Especially the comments—they're pretty interesting.
darkviper7 darkviper7 Member
25 messages
joined Jan 2008
#669 ·
Man, seriously guys—don't listen to those weirdos.
Personally, I think Vista is actually a pretty decent OS—I haven't even hit a single BSOD in almost a year now. I guess if you pay a little attention and actually know what you're doing, it works wonders.
And hey, if people say Windows 7 is "just" SP2 for Vista, then fine, whatever.
You've gotta know how to monetize your own work and products, which it seems like some folks here are just jealous of.
Why don't you go build your own OS and sell it however you want? It’s always easiest to act like a genius when you aren't the one doing the work.
Melissa Watson4 Melissa Watson4 Member
24 messages
joined Dec 2008
#670 ·
Thinking that Windows 7 is just Vista SP2... I guess that’s something only someone with zero understanding of operating systems would believe.☕
Gerald Carter5 Gerald Carter5 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2008
#671 ·
I need some help, and I need it fast—like, within the next half hour if possible. I’m about to wipe my drive and install a fresh week's worth of updates (currently running the beta), so I'm torn on which build I should actually go with: 7068 or 7086?
rustydriver23 rustydriver23 Member
11 messages
joined Oct 2010
#672 ·
Honestly, if you're asking me, you should definitely go with the 7086 😉
Gary Lewis5 Gary Lewis5 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Sep 2010
#673 ·
Could someone help me make sense of why my lowest score on the Windows Experience Index is sitting at the RAM subscore (5.5)?!
..considering I’m running 4GB of RAM (1066MHz) on a 32-bit Windows 7 beta..

By the way, I just installed a brand new NVIDIA driver specifically designed for Windows 7—it was released quite recently—so maybe there's a glitch there causing my system to get such a mediocre rating.
Does anyone have recommendations for other drivers or similar tweaks I should look into if I want to bump that score up a bit?
Melissa Watson4 Melissa Watson4 Member
24 messages
joined Dec 2008
#674 ·
Gary Lewis5 said:Can someone explain why my lowest score on the Windows Experience Index is for my RAM (5.5)?!
..especially since I'm running 4GB of RAM (1066MHz) on a 32-bit Windows 7 beta..

Anyway, I just installed a new NVIDIA driver specifically for Windows 7—it was released pretty recently—so maybe that's why the system gave me such a pathetic rating.
Does anyone have recommendations for other drivers or tweaks to help boost that score?

Maybe list your full specs next time... I don't suppose we're psychics who can just guess what hardware you're running, right? ☕
Melissa Watson4 Melissa Watson4 Member
24 messages
joined Dec 2008
#675 ·
rustydriver23 said:Go with 7086 for sure 😉

This build seems fake to me...☕
Gerald Carter5 Gerald Carter5 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2008
#676 ·
😢, I actually already grabbed it. Are you positive it’s a fake just because I didn't pull it from some sketchy site like The Pirate Bay or whatever? I got it through some private trackers instead.
Melissa Watson4 Melissa Watson4 Member
24 messages
joined Dec 2008
#677 ·
Gerald Carter5 said:😢,but I already downloaded it. Are you sure it's a fake? I didn't grab it from sites like The Pirate Bay or whatever, but from private trackers.

I guess I'm not 100% certain since I haven't actually grabbed or tested it myself... but people online are saying it's a fake... others claim it's actually just build 7068 🤷
hollowcanyon6 hollowcanyon6 Member
12 messages
joined Feb 2009
#678 ·
It’s not a fake; it’s just a typo. The first uploader accidentally uploaded the 32-bit version under build number 7086 (the 64-bit version is actually build 7068).
Gerald Carter5 Gerald Carter5 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2008
#679 ·
I guess I'll just go ahead and install it; if it turns out to be a fake, then seeing a 7068 score isn't exactly the end of the world, but if it’s actually legit, even better.
EDIT: Well, the guy above finally weighed in.
Gary Lewis5 Gary Lewis5 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Sep 2010
#680 ·
Nicholas Collins68 said:You really think I’m some kind of psychic? You can't exactly expect me to pull your hardware specs out of thin air without you actually laying them all out for me first. ☕

The Gigabyte EP45-DS3, built on the LGA 775 socket, remains a classic piece of hardware for those of us who still enjoy tinkering with older systems. It’s one of those motherboards that really defines an era of computing.
I managed to push my Intel Core 2 Duo from its stock 2.5GHz up to a steady 3.13GHz through some overclocking. It’s a modest jump, certainly, but it feels like giving an old sedan a bit of premium high-octane fuel just to see if it can handle the highway better than expected.
I’ve got two sticks of 2GB DDR2 PC8500 Kingmax memory sitting here.
I was looking back at some old hardware specs recently, specifically that XFX 9800GTX+ with the 512MB of DDR3 on the PCI Express interface. It’s funny how quickly the landscape shifts when you look at these components through a rearview mirror. Back then, having a card like this felt like driving a reliable mid-sized sedan—it wasn't a supercar, but it got you exactly where you needed to go without much fuss. It held its own quite well for a long time before the industry decided everything needed to be exponentially faster every single season.
Seagate 320GB SATA II 7200.11
Pioneer DVR-216DBK SATA DVDRW drive.
I’ve been looking at that Cooler Master CM 690 in black lately. It’s got a certain presence to it.
I’ve been looking closely at the EVGA 400 W power supply lately. It’s one of those components that doesn't usually get much fanfare, but it's essentially the silent backbone of the entire build. When you're putting together a system, it's easy to get caught up in the flashy stuff like the GPU or the processor, but if the foundation isn't solid, nothing else really matters. This particular unit sits in that middle ground—not quite high-end enthusiast gear, but certainly more reliable than the generic junk you find at big-box retailers. It provides a steady enough flow for a standard setup without breaking the bank, much like how a dependable sedan gets you from point A to point B without any unnecessary drama.

I was actually just on the verge of pulling the trigger on a new computer setup...

The question was posed as follows:
Can anyone help me make sense of why my lowest score on the PassMark PerformanceTest is coming from the RAM? It’s sitting at a 5.5, and I can't quite wrap my head around why that's the bottleneck.
So, I’m currently sitting there with 4GB of RAM running at 1066MHz, all while trying to navigate through a 32-bit beta version of Windows 7.
I’ve been looking over this screenshot, and it’s quite a snapshot of a specific era in computing. It really takes you back to those days when we were all obsessing over every little benchmark and system specification to see if our rigs could handle the next big thing. Looking at the layout, it’s almost nostalgic, seeing how we used to track performance metrics before everything became streamlined and simplified by modern OS interfaces. It’s one of those classic views that reminds you just how much the landscape of hardware and software optimization has shifted since then.

By the way, I just finished installing that new NVIDIA driver specifically designed for Windows 7—it only came out recently—so it’s entirely possible that's why my PassMark PerformanceTest scores look so pathetic.
Does anyone have suggestions for other drivers or similar tweaks I should run through to give my PassMark PerformanceTest score a little nudge?

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