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Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#21 ·
So, if you're sending a package, did you wrap the envelopes in twine too? I actually use those same types of envelopes to send little parcels all the time, and I’ve honestly never run into a single issue. I just tie them up with some string and call it a day. It's the perfect way to send something under the guise of a standard letter so the USPS doesn't hit me with those ridiculous shipping fees 🙄
Donna Martinez95 Donna Martinez95 Newcomer
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#22 ·
My aunt used to work at the local USPS branch, and she told me to always send envelopes via certified mail, which turned out to be a bit of a wash $5.00, since you're capped at 20 pounds if you want that precious paper trail—which is basically the only thing that matters in this bureaucracy. If I’ve got something heavy, I just shove it into a box and ship it as a package. Honestly, it’s much easier to just pack it up than to get into a shouting match with the clerks; I’ve learned the hard way that every single post office seems to run its own little fiefdom with its own set of unwritten rules. For instance, at my branch, they might actually reject an envelope if you’ve gone and wrapped it in twine like I did
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Oh, and just a heads-up: when you're using an envelope, you fill out one specific form for certified mail, but if you move up to a box, you have to use the package form. They aren't the same document
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So, here's my question—is there actually a difference between certified mail and insured mail, or are they essentially the same thing?
Amanda Myers3 Amanda Myers3 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#23 ·
I actually really needed this thread 🙂
I have absolutely no idea how shipping works, and honestly, I can't even remember the last time I sent anything... but now it's necessary...

So, just to clarify, with Cash on Delivery, does the recipient cover the shipping costs?
From what I gather, packages under 11 lbs usually cost the most $6.75 or am I wrong? Also, do they provide boxes at places like FedEx or UPS, or do I need to source my own? (I feel a bit foolish asking, but I genuinely have no clue where to go to pick up a box!)
neonridge8 neonridge8 Newcomer
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#24 ·
Honestly, you can just walk into any local store and ask about the box. 🙄

As for the other thing, there’s already plenty written about it online, and you can head over to Yahoo News to find more details. 😉
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#25 ·
Amanda Myers3 said:I honestly couldn't have timed this thread better. 🙂
I am completely clueless when it comes to shipping packages—I can't even remember the last time I sent anything through the mail—but now, suddenly, I'm in desperate need...

So, just to clarify, does "cash on delivery" mean the recipient covers the shipping costs?
From what I gather, for packages under 11 lbs, the shipping is usually pretty cheap, $6.75 right? Also, do they provide boxes at the Post Office, or am I expected to hunt one down myself? (I feel ridiculous asking this, but seriously, where am I supposed to find a box out of thin air?!)

Take a look at this link; study it carefully to see exactly what their website says about shipping procedures.

As I mentioned before, a package weighing less than 11 lbs can vary wildly in value, and the shipping fee is calculated based on that, though it's actually quite negligible. I once paid only $183 for shipping on a package valued at $10. It was practically nothing, but having that declared value was vital in case the damn thing ever went missing. That's why I always insist on listing the actual value. 🙂

Sending something C.O.D. doesn't necessarily mean the recipient pays the postage (not strictly); it means the person receiving the shipment has to pay the item price before they can actually take possession of it. 😉 This is an essential precaution when, say, you're dealing with someone who has very few posts on the forum and you aren't quite sure of their reliability—so you send it C.O.D. They pay first, then receive the package, and the postal service handles delivering that cash back to your doorstep. 🙂
Now, regarding shipping fees: if the buyer is responsible for them, you simply add that amount to the total they owe you. If they aren't paying for shipping, you don't add a cent. In a typical scenario like this, shipping would run somewhere around $5.75, give or take.

You can buy standard USPS boxes (those foldable ones) right there at the station, but you could just as easily grab a sturdy box from around the house—like an old shoebox or whatever—and pack your items inside. You just have to make sure you wrap the box in plain white paper and secure the whole thing with twine. Honestly, if you're just sending a single T-shirt or something small enough to fit into those yellow padded mailers (which come in quite large sizes, by the way), you can just ship it as is, provided you wrap the mailer in paper and secure it with twine, then fill out the necessary customs/shipping forms.
That’s really all there is to it.

I hope that clears things up for you a little bit. 😬

I think I'll head over to the Post Office later today to fill out some of those official forms just so I can see how it works in practice; trying to figure it all out mentally is proving to be quite difficult. 🙂
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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#26 ·
Donna Martinez95 said:Oh, right—when you’re sending something in an envelope, you fill out the form for a certified letter, but if you have a box, it’s a package form... they aren't the same thing.

Now, I have a question—is a certified shipment actually the same thing as an insured one??

Yeah, every single USPS branch seems to have its own little set of rules. I've heard it all, honestly. 🙄

When I put something in an envelope or wrap it up with twine—basically sending it as a package—I just fill out the package slip and declare the value. I don't send it as an insured letter; I send it as a package (even though once, a clerk tried to force me to send it as an insured letter, but I stood my ground and insisted on the package rate, so that's what she charged me). For insured letters, the postage gets significantly more expensive as the weight increases.

A certified shipment is this:

A certified shipment can be any mail item without a declared value, where the sender receives a receipt of mailing, and it is delivered to the recipient upon signature. ,

And here is what an insured letter is:

An insured letter is a piece of mail where the sender declares the value of the item in both numbers and words in the bottom left corner of the address side. An insured letter can contain goods, cash, written correspondence, or other items, and can weigh up to about 4.4 pounds.

So, the difference lies in the declared value, as you can clearly see. 🙂
Donna Martinez95 Donna Martinez95 Newcomer
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#27 ·
I get 🙂. I never bother with certified mail; I always just go with registered shipping because it’s actually cheaper—it basically costs the same as a standard package anyway—plus you get the peace of mind from having a tracking confirmation.
silentorca18 silentorca18 Newcomer
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#28 ·
Donna Martinez95 said:My aunt at the Post Office told me I should send the envelopes via certified mail, and then it turns out that was a total waste of time anyway. $5.00I usually try to stick to the 20oz limit just so I have proof that I actually sent what matters most in this business. But if I’ve got something heavy, I just toss it in a box and send it as a package. It's honestly easier than fighting with them; I've learned the hard way that every single branch office has its own little set of rules. Like, maybe at your local UPS, they wouldn't even accept an envelope if you tied it shut with string like I do.


Same thing is happening at my local post office. 🙄
They won't let me send that bubble mailer with any actual value; they’re just going to treat it like standard certified mail. 🙄
jadeskipper18 jadeskipper18 Member
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joined Aug 2007
#29 ·
It honestly drives me crazy when I don't get my receipt in the mail—out of my last ten shipments, I’ve only seen it show up once.
And then, by the time you factor in the shipping costs for one tiny little envelope, the whole thing ends up costing way too much $8.25 and just feels like a total rip-off 😠
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#30 ·
Searching for the receipt. I’m always hunting one down, especially when I’ve sent out a mountain of packages at once.
Honestly, I tried to make sense of those line items on the invoice, but it’s an absolute nightmare. It’s completely nonsensical. How anyone could possibly link those entries back to the actual shipments is beyond me. 😬
jadeskipper18 jadeskipper18 Member
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joined Aug 2007
#31 ·
Angela Flores76 said:Get that receipt. I always make sure I have one, especially when I'm shipping out a bunch of stuff at once.
Though, honestly, I tried to actually make sense of those line items on the bill—it’s just a nightmare. It feels totally disconnected. You can barely even link the charges back to what you actually shipped 😬

Exactly. I got my statement on Monday after sending out four packages, and I couldn't make heads or tails of any of it. 🤣🤣
Kevin Bishop2 Kevin Bishop2 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2013
#32 ·
Does your mail carrier actually charge you $1.75 for home delivery? 🤷😕 Because mine had the nerve to try it yesterday. My husband picked up our package, and this guy charged him $1.75 without even a shred of authorization—no receipt, no paperwork, nothing! It was almost like he was expecting a tip 😁 right then and there.
mistyrider14 mistyrider14 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2008
#33 ·
Every single time this delivery guy tracks me down at my place, he tries to squeeze some cash out of me, but if I just head down to the local FedEx office to handle it myself, suddenly there’s nothing left to pay. And wouldn't you know it, I don't even get a receipt for any of it.
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#34 ·
Sometimes they charge me, sometimes they don't. I honestly can't wrap my head around what the deal is with 🤷
. It makes absolutely no sense. But fine, I'll go ahead and ask.
Then again, I always end up getting a confirmation anyway.
shadowraven21 shadowraven21 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2008
#35 ·
He’s brought stuff over to my place more times than I can count, and honestly, he’s never once asked me for a dime.
Just a heads-up though—whenever you actually do pay for something, you really ought to be getting an invoice. Next time he tries to charge you, don't be afraid to ask for a receipt. 😉
mistyrider14 mistyrider14 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2008
#36 ·
But it’s not even my usual mail carrier delivering this, it’s one of those guys in a delivery van, so I guess I’ll just have to hunt him down and demand a receipt.
Donna Martinez95 Donna Martinez95 Newcomer
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#37 ·
Lately, my mail carrier just drops everything right at my doorstep without ever asking for a single thing. 😍
Brian Mitchell44 Brian Mitchell44 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2006
#38 ·
mistyrider14 said:But it isn't my usual mail carrier delivering this—it's one of those guys in a delivery van. I'll be sure to demand a receipt from him, though.

If it's a package being dropped off right at the door, wouldn't you assume that counts as home delivery? Is that why they charge those $1.75? When my regular USPS carrier brings my stuff, there's never any extra fee. 🙂
Michael Sanchez7 Michael Sanchez7 Newcomer
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#39 ·
It really depends on what you're actually buying. You aren't technically "skipping" the shipping fee when you order from places like Amazon or Wayfair—they just have contracts with USPS or UPS. It’s still being paid; you just don't see the line item. Nothing in life is truly free, not even from your grandma. If a mail carrier shows up at your door with a slip, it’s probably not a package anyway; it’s likely just a certified letter or something sent with COD. Real packages usually get dropped off by guys driving delivery vans.
Grace Hernandez53 Grace Hernandez53 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2008
#40 ·
Sometimes they hunt me down for those $1.75, sometimes they don't. So I just asked for the bill, and now I pay every single time and get a receipt. Whatever. I’m not about to trust them blindly.
One time I told them I didn't have $1.75, so I just picked up my package at the FedEx office for free.

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