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Best protein powders for muscle gain?

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velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
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joined Feb 2019
#1501 ·
Honestly, that gainer you're using is pretty much useless—and don't even get me started on Weider Crash Weight Gain... it's just not cutting it.
You’d be way better off grabbing something with actual quality behind it, like:
1. Sci mentor Mass Gainer 5000
2. Mass Gainer plus UBOSS
3. Isogainer
4. Mass Factor
5. Serious Mass
6. Muscle Juice
7. ISO Mass Extreme Gainer
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#1502 ·
When it comes to those annoying digestive issues people get from protein powders, pure isolates won't touch you—I personally stick to MusclePharm Isolate Neutral since it’s basically just protein and nothing else. Honestly, if you're dealing with stomach trouble, my money is on aspartame. It’s used as a sweetener everywhere, and it's pretty nasty stuff. If you’re slamming shakes all day and also chewing on Orbit gum—which, by the way, uses the same crap—it’s no wonder things start moving through you way too fast.
Every single tub of protein out there lists aspartame on the label.
Personally, I steer clear of anything that mentions aspartame or sucralose; sure, sucralose might be slightly "better," but there just isn't enough solid research to say it's actually safe.
The list of proteins that don't load up on these industrial sugars and artificial sweeteners is honestly pretty short—as far as I know, you've got MusclePharm Isolate Neutral or maybe some of the unflavored options from Optimum Nutrition, but I can't think of many others...
And don't even get me started on gainers—those things are absolutely loaded with sweeteners, cholesterol, unnecessary fats, and all sorts of junk.
wearyotter81 wearyotter81 Member
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joined May 2015
#1503 ·
Optimum Nutrition MusclePharm is actually aspartame-free.
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#1504 ·
wearyotter81 said:Optimum Nutrition MusclePharm is aspartame-free.

It's got acesulfame potassium though.
There’s just too much sketchy stuff floating around about those types of sweeteners being carcinogenic—honestly, if I were you, I’d steer clear of products like that for now.
Personally, I'd rather just stick to pure, unflavored protein—zero fat, zero cholesterol, zero sugar, and absolutely no artificial sweeteners. It keeps things simple and keeps my mind at ease. Let's be real, the flavor isn't exactly a gourmet experience... and besides, these things aren't exactly cheap.
wearyotter81 wearyotter81 Member
28 messages
joined May 2015
#1505 ·
So, I just did a little digging into that acesulfame potassium stuff. It turns out they don't use aspartame in Elite products, but this stuff is definitely in there. And yeah, there's all those nagging rumors about it being potentially carcinogenic.
Man, what a mess 😁
silenthawk9 silenthawk9 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2009
#1506 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:That gainer you're using is total garbage, and honestly, the manufacturer Waider isn't worth much either...
Better off grabbing something high-quality like:
1. Sci mentor Mass Gainer 5000
2. Mass Gainer plus UBOSS
3. Isogainer
4. Mass Factor
5. Serious Mass
6. Muscle Juice
7. Optimum Nutrition

Why exactly is it bad? I can only order all of these online, or can I actually find them in stores around Chicago?
John Morgan67 John Morgan67 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2010
#1507 ·
so... here's the deal. i'm 19 and playing soccer pretty hard. currently playing in the semi-pro leagues and hitting the field 4-5 times a week plus games on the weekend. my one big issue is i've been stuck at 132 lbs for years now. i'm about 5'9" and just can't seem to budge that number. i eat everything and i eat constantly, but honestly, nothing shows for it... 🤷
since i don't really know the first thing about proteins or all those supplement types, i could really use some help... i just want to pack on a few pounds. what kind of stuff actually works, and where should i go grab it? thanks in advance...
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#1508 ·
silenthawk9 said:why isn't it any good? can I just order all these products online, or is there stuff available locally in a big city like Chicago?

The thing with this Waider stuff is the protein-to-carb ratio—it's pretty low on the protein side compared to the carbs, and to make matters worse, they're using soy which has a pretty weak biological value.

http://www.prosport.net/katalog/prod..._id=1100022511

If you're gonna grab this, order it from Canada—just keep in mind you'll gotta factor in an extra 30% for customs and taxes if you do it officially.
Honestly, if you know someone heading over to Canada, have them drop it off at a post office in a Small Midwestern town and just pick it up from there to dodge those customs fees entirely.
It ends up being way cheaper than buying it here in the States, especially if you're picking up a bulk order. 😉
granitegardener14 granitegardener14 Member
23 messages
joined Jan 2010
#1509 ·
What's the deal with the protein from Walmart for $9.00 750 g ???
wearyotter81 wearyotter81 Member
28 messages
joined May 2015
#1510 ·
How much money does it actually take to get this much music?
Jonathan Miller7 Jonathan Miller7 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2008
#1511 ·
granitegardener14 said:What’s the deal with the protein powders at Walmart for $9.00 750 g ???

So, I was digging around online and managed to track down some specs on this stuff 🙄
13g protein
74g lactose
1g fat
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#1512 ·
granitegardener14 said:How's the protein from Walmart for $9.00 750 g ???

It’s just whey powder, so expect plenty of lactose.

If you're already at Walmart, you might be better off grabbing that Whey Protein or something similar.
granitegardener14 granitegardener14 Member
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joined Jan 2010
#1513 ·
Jonathan Miller7 said:I dug up some stats online regarding this 🙄
13g protein
74g lactose
1g fat

So, as far as protein goes, there's basically nothing...
granitegardener14 granitegardener14 Member
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joined Jan 2010
#1514 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:It’s just whey powder, which means it's loaded with lactose.

If you're already at Walmart, you might as well grab some Whey Protein or something similar.

I haven't seen that Whey Protein before. Is it just regular whey?

I've never touched supplements before, so I have no idea what works for a beginner without breaking the bank...
Jonathan Miller7 Jonathan Miller7 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2008
#1515 ·
I honestly don't get why they even call this stuff protein.

I don't really follow all these different supplement brands that closely, so if anyone could drop some recommendations for a good whey? I just need something you can actually find at a local Walmart, and my one big rule is no soy isolate. It can have artificial sweeteners if it needs to—I don't care about that—but just please, no soy.
Alex Long8 Alex Long8 Member
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joined Aug 2007
#1516 ·
John Morgan67 said:So, here’s the situation. I’m 19, playing competitive soccer, and training four to five times a week on top of match days. My only issue? I’ve been stuck at 132 pounds at 5'9" for a few years now. I can't seem to budge that number. I eat everything in sight and I eat often, but honestly, nothing shows for it. What gives? 🤷
Since I don't know the first thing about proteins or supplements, I could use some help here. I just want to put on a few pounds. Which products actually work, and where should I be looking to buy them? Thanks in advance.

Look, I’ll try to help out however I can, but we should probably wait to see what the experts have to say before making any big moves.

At 5'9", I’d say I’m sitting around 155 lbs—and let's be clear, most of that is solid muscle.
When it comes to protein, you’ve basically got your choice between standard Whey Protein or those massive gainers. Most Whey Protein is relatively clean—you're looking at maybe 80g of protein per 100g depending on the brand. But then you have those heavy hitters like Optimum Nutrition, which are loaded with carbs. Or, as we all like to say, "just dump that sugar in." Here is my take—feel free to correct me if I'm off base: if you stick to Whey, you're mostly building muscle. If you go the Gainer route, sure, you'll put on weight, and maybe even faster, but there's a much higher risk of just packing on fat instead. You actually need to train. You really should be hitting the weights at least three times a week. I don't know what kind of routines you guys are running, but you can't just drink your way to a physique.
So, everyone says protein is best taken immediately after a workout. I actually heard one trainer suggest a different approach: say you’re hitting chest and biceps. You finish the chest portion, knock back half your shake, then finish the rest once you move on to biceps. Doesn't sound like a bad idea, really. But most people just wait until the session is completely over.
That protein shake isn't a meal replacement; it's maybe one extra snack at most. You still have to eat real food—breakfast, lunch, dinner—plus the shake. You can mix things up, like throwing some Oats into the blend, but you need actual calories. I saw someone complaining on a forum recently—maybe even here—about how they were drinking shakes four times a day. Who does that? Seriously, who is that crazy? Some labels suggest four servings a day, which is complete nonsense in my book. Most people don't even bother on non-training days, let alone hitting four shakes every single day. Also, if you're using Whey, you might add some Fructose. You can pick some up at Walmart for pretty cheap. Personally, I couldn't stand the taste of the sugar, so I just ate two bananas on the side. When you make the shake, just use one scoop—you know, the one that comes inside the tub. Don't think adding more scoops will magically get you results faster. There's some theory that the body can only process about 30 grams at once before it goes to waste, but I won't get bogged down in the science of it. As for brands, we could argue about this forever. Everyone has their favorite. Since you're just starting out, I’d recommend a decent Whey from a budget-friendly brand like Optimum Nutrition. They offer a lot of product for the price. Some people will trash them and claim they're just full of sugar, but I know guys who've seen great results using them. Honestly, as a beginner, you won't notice much difference as long as your training is solid and your diet is on point. Anything will help at this stage.
John Morgan67 John Morgan67 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2010
#1517 ·
Man, these workouts are absolutely brutal lately, especially now that preseason training has kicked in. We’re basically living at the gym doing the same drills over and over, and I’ve even got a setup with some weights back at my place to get extra reps in... It’s not that I’m afraid of the grind, honestly, I don't mind the work, I just really want to pack on some serious mass... How long do you think it would actually take to see real results if I stay consistent with the training and start using a Gainer?
Alex Long8 Alex Long8 Member
21 messages
joined Aug 2007
#1518 ·
John Morgan67 said:The training sessions are brutal, especially these pre-season ones. We’re constantly hitting the weights at the gym, and I’ve got some gear at home too. It's not the work that's the issue; I just really want to pack on some mass. How long would it actually take to see real results if I took this stuff and stayed consistent with my training?

And don't expect it to happen overnight....

What do I know? It all comes down to your metabolism. For instance, I can eat a massive amount and stay thin, while someone else eats the same way and blows up instantly.

Also, isn't there supposed to be some rule about not gaining more than 4 or 5 pounds a month? I'm not entirely sure how the math works out on that....

If you start using Whey Protein and glucose now, you could easily see progress by the start of summer. That's about 6-7 months to put on weight. But again, eating "a lot" means breakfast, lunch, dinner, plus a protein shake—you might even need to squeeze in an extra meal. And stick to real food, not McDonald's or that other junk.
Eat plenty of meat; chicken and turkey are great, as are tuna, Oats, cottage cheese, and nuts. Check out this link www.building-body.com for diet plans and explanations. It's a solid site.
Jonathan Miller7 Jonathan Miller7 Newcomer
1 message
joined Nov 2008
#1519 ·
Alex Long8 said:Anyway, I think there’s some kind of rule or biological limit where you shouldn't be gaining more than like 4 or 5 pounds a month, though I don't know the exact science behind how that works...

Look, the human body can realistically build maybe 3 pounds of actual muscle per month—maybe 4 if you're lucky and hitting everything perfectly—but I'm not 100% certain on the math. Anything beyond that? It’s just going straight to FAT.😁

Sure, you could technically pack on 6 or 7 pounds in a month, but just be ready to accept that half of that is nothing but pure fat.
granitegardener14 granitegardener14 Member
23 messages
joined Jan 2010
#1520 ·
This isn't strictly about protein, but since it falls under nutrition, I'll keep it here rather than cluttering another thread:

- what’s the best way to use fructose, and when or how much should I be taking?


P.S. Don't lose it if this sounds like a rookie question. I'm just getting started with all of this, and I realize there are plenty of experts and smart people here, so please bear with me...

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