Immigration discussion in Women's Corner

Hey,

I’m wondering why and how the immigration thread over at the Women's Corner—link —which is basically exploding right now, isn't being cleaned up. You've got mods and former mods throwing around "fascist" labels, swearing like sailors, and straight-up calling for bans without any consequences. But the second someone tries to push back? The thread gets locked and everyone gets shoved over to Politics.

What exactly is the issue here?
Is it the blatant, unfiltered profanity that somehow manages to fly under the radar for days without a single mod stepping in?

Heh, yeah, right. I wish everyone could experience being a refugee. At least you people haven't lived through it. It's not just sirens blaring and running for your basement; it's leaving everything behind to travel hundreds of miles just to have people look at you like you're carrying the plague.
Go to hell, all of you.

Labeling users as fascists—and coming from a mod who handles Politics, where they don't even hold that view themselves—while actively calling for bans. 🙂

Now I'm actually kind of annoyed that this thread was split from the original. You can really see the slipperiness on display here. They claim tolerance is "unwanted," while the people preaching it act like they're some kind of moral compass (probably because they can't wrap their heads around anyone thinking differently), yet those poor "xenophobes" get offended when you call them out for being xenophobic or fascist. Yeah, you are. You're FASCISTS.

Hand out the ban.

Or is the problem that you aren't allowed to disagree openly without things boiling over?
Or is talking about refugees just off-limits now?

Thanks!

I’m jumping on the bandwagon here—I definitely second this objection and think we’re all owed a serious explanation.

Thanks,

+1

By the way, I have zero issues with labels. I wouldn’t dream of deleting them or archiving them.
Nobody is so slow that they can't figure out who is being told what and why for themselves.
But I really don't get the whole "closing the thread" thing.
Nor do I get those posts about political correctness.

Is that really the reason?

And as for you're stupid, you love Hitler type posts—if you feel the need, just use a moderator. Honestly, I don't see anyone actually targeting someone specifically.

Me too.

I didn't really mind the constant sniping from the mod crew for a few days—honestly, there are so many moderators in that group, it felt almost expected—but then things took this weird, sudden turn... you know? Like, once the majority of people finally stopped seeing things through rose-colored glasses and actually started looking at the facts for themselves, that little bubble of consensus just popped, and suddenly the whole thread gets shut down. ☕

+1
That last post was especially hypocritical.

It seems the Women's Corner is nothing more than debates about oat milk and pubic hair styles.

Really? Automizoginija?

It’s just selective and totally hypocritical.
I mean, sure, you can go off about those "Catholic liberals" and how they're supposedly running things... but the second anyone tries to zoom out and look at the bigger picture? Suddenly everyone's being labeled a fascist or a Nazi. It’s such a cheap way to shut down a conversation.

Look, if you guys only wanted a narrow discussion about helping refugees, you could've just locked the thread after two pages. I mean, seriously, everyone already agreed on that part anyway...

I don’t have an issue with anyone's vocabulary, but I definitely have an issue with the moderator.
And these damn pinned threads... seriously?

Petra - if you aren't capable of handling one single thread on this forum, then just step aside.
Honestly, I'm just fed up with all these people with various complexes who use moderation to fill gaps in their actual lives, which isn't what it's for... and every once in a while, we end up here bickering because of people like that.

You will never, ever see someone from the Women's Corner complaining about why someone didn't get a warning, but we constantly see ourselves losing our cool because some moderator is messing with us through sheer incompetence...
...one shows up and shuts down a thread about babies just because she finds it "disgusting," another comes along and locks a gossip thread that was never even "essential" just because we were talking about someone she knows personally, then a third one arrives knowing full well nobody wants her as a mod, but she wants it so bad that she arranges her own appointment, causing total chaos on the forum. Then you show up for the first time and immediately start clashing with us in the gossip section because you start deleting things that you think shouldn't be there, then you quiet down, leave, and now you're back locking threads—because you clearly aren't capable of managing anything other than threads about oatmeal
Honey, regardless of whether moderation requires a fancy degree or not, it's still a fact that it isn't for everyone. So if you can't do it—why are you even bothering?

Alex Miller3 said:It’s just selective and totally hypocritical.
I mean, sure, you can go off about those "Catholic liberals" and how they're supposedly running things... but the second anyone tries to zoom out and look at the bigger picture? Suddenly everyone's being labeled a fascist or a Nazi. It’s such a cheap way to shut down a conversation.

Look, if you guys only wanted a narrow discussion about helping refugees, you could've just locked the thread after two pages. I mean, seriously, everyone already agreed on that part anyway...

Personally, I don't really care if some clone or anyone else here calls me names—I just don't take things personally, and my heart isn't tied to someone else's ego.

...but honestly—by the rules, Peter's Door should probably be handed a warning card. She'd need to find Nica, because Peter doesn't have the guts to actually issue one. Besides, she doesn't have the capacity for much more than just fluff (if you believe her own admission), so her easiest move is just to lock the whole topic. 😁
Way to go, Peter 👏

Seriously, that was a disaster. The kid literally said she wanted a technical foul herself. I don't see how Peter’s decision made any sense at all.
What I really want to know is if they intentionally used that playground bullying tactic—that whole fascist little trick—just to shut the conversation down.
If that was the plan, it was pretty smooth. 😁 👍

So, does a women's version of this thread actually exist? 🤣

+ 1. Since we mostly have men joining the conversation here, this is really more of a question for the Women's Corner.
🧐

hollowmason64, you’re spot on with every single word. 👍
Either get someone who actually knows how to moderate in here, or just step aside entirely.
And honestly, that post from Peter about oatmeal and pubic hair? It’s absolutely revolting. 🤮

coastalwolf87 said:Seriously, that was a disaster. The kid literally said she wanted a technical foul herself. I don't see how Peter’s decision made any sense at all.
What I really want to know is if they intentionally used that playground bullying tactic—that whole fascist little trick—just to shut the conversation down.
If that was the plan, it was pretty smooth. 😁 👍

Look, I really don't give a damn about the ban... the beauty of the WNBA PDF is that you can basically bark whatever you want, and if that means scrolling past a post like that, then so be it. Big deal. 🤷
It's just so rare to have actual interesting topics like this...

And yeah, that ridiculous nonsense she used to lock the thread was legendary—I actually pulled it into a separate window because we need to preserve it. 🥳
It's one of those perfect, clear examples of how someone uses stupidity and incompetence to mask themselves by attacking others. She tried to play the fashionista, couldn't handle managing a single thread, and then flipped it around to suggest that we're all too dim-witted and incapable of discussing anything besides trivial nonsense. 🙏
Well, Peter, I have to say it again—bravo. 👏

Bradley White73 said:So, does a women's version of this thread actually exist? 🤣

Not quite. 🥳
I’d love to tell you that the way our Women's Corner gets locked proves the guys in politics are just weak, but hey, they told us it's because we lack the capacity to handle it. 😢

+1

it’s always easier to just shut things down instead of actually doing the work ☕

hollowmason64 said:Look, I really don't give a damn about the ban... the beauty of the WNBA PDF is that you can basically bark whatever you want, and if that means scrolling past a post like that, then so be it. Big deal. 🤷
It's just so rare to have actual interesting topics like this...

And yeah, that ridiculous nonsense she used to lock the thread was legendary—I actually pulled it into a separate window because we need to preserve it. 🥳
It's one of those perfect, clear examples of how someone uses stupidity and incompetence to mask themselves by attacking others. She tried to play the fashionista, couldn't handle managing a single thread, and then flipped it around to suggest that we're all too dim-witted and incapable of discussing anything besides trivial nonsense. 🙏
Well, Peter, I have to say it again—bravo. 👏

Not quite. 🥳
I’d love to tell you that the way our Women's Corner gets locked proves the guys in politics are just weak, but hey, they told us it's because we lack the capacity to handle it. 😢

I was just scrolling through to read what you all had to say, and please know you have my full support and a deep bow; I suppose one just has to endure this kind of labeling. And here I was thinking the discussions over at hard politics were actually intense. 😁

Man, I was just about to upload my favorite photo of a little fish, but right as I finished baking my cake, some illiterate moderator swoops in and locks the thread. 👏

Honestly, I don't give a damn that a few insecure types were calling me names. I'm not even sorry they didn't get banned for it. It just says everything you need to know about the admins and mods here. I guarantee if anyone else called the users fascists and told them where to shove it, they’d be getting a ban at light speed.

Nothing new from this mod and admin crew. Ned Bog, I wish someone around here actually used their brain. It’s either a ban or locking the whole thread. I set my signature back when you lot took power and showed your true colors. You're pathetic—just bottom-of-the-barrel pathetic.

hollowmason64 said:I don’t have an issue with anyone's vocabulary, but I definitely have an issue with the moderator.
And these damn pinned threads... seriously?

Petra - if you aren't capable of handling one single thread on this forum, then just step aside.
Honestly, I'm just fed up with all these people with various complexes who use moderation to fill gaps in their actual lives, which isn't what it's for... and every once in a while, we end up here bickering because of people like that.

You will never, ever see someone from the Women's Corner complaining about why someone didn't get a warning, but we constantly see ourselves losing our cool because some moderator is messing with us through sheer incompetence...
...one shows up and shuts down a thread about babies just because she finds it "disgusting," another comes along and locks a gossip thread that was never even "essential" just because we were talking about someone she knows personally, then a third one arrives knowing full well nobody wants her as a mod, but she wants it so bad that she arranges her own appointment, causing total chaos on the forum. Then you show up for the first time and immediately start clashing with us in the gossip section because you start deleting things that you think shouldn't be there, then you quiet down, leave, and now you're back locking threads—because you clearly aren't capable of managing anything other than threads about oatmeal
Honey, regardless of whether moderation requires a fancy degree or not, it's still a fact that it isn't for everyone. So if you can't do it—why are you even bothering?

I'm quoting the whole post just so it's easier to read.

And to wrap this up—swim, just swim. :

I’ve been lurking in this thread since day one, but honestly? I haven't felt like typing anything. It just doesn't feel worth the effort. Every single time a topic like this pops up in this corner of the internet, it follows the exact same predictable trajectory and ends in the same inevitable disaster.

I just want to send some solidarity to everyone—Hilda, kiss me, David Foster80, Leeloo, and the rest of you—who still possesses the sheer willpower and patience to engage in debates with that absolute tumor known as Zillow, or that infantile clique of people who lack even the most basic social skills and can't hold a conversation without descending into hysterics, vomiting insults, and being plain abusive. And all of this happens under official supervision, no less.

rustyharbor3 said:I’ve been lurking in this thread since day one, but honestly? I haven't felt like typing anything. It just doesn't feel worth the effort. Every single time a topic like this pops up in this corner of the internet, it follows the exact same predictable trajectory and ends in the same inevitable disaster.

I just want to send some solidarity to everyone—Hilda, kiss me, David Foster80, Leeloo, and the rest of you—who still possesses the sheer willpower and patience to engage in debates with that absolute tumor known as Zillow, or that infantile clique of people who lack even the most basic social skills and can't hold a conversation without descending into hysterics, vomiting insults, and being plain abusive. And all of this happens under official supervision, no less.

I guess that’s why they went ahead and colluded with the site admins and moderators 🎉

They wouldn't even let me brag about how many refugees from Canada we've taken into our homes. 😢

Alex Miller3 said:It’s just selective and totally hypocritical.
I mean, sure, you can go off about those "Catholic liberals" and how they're supposedly running things... but the second anyone tries to zoom out and look at the bigger picture? Suddenly everyone's being labeled a fascist or a Nazi. It’s such a cheap way to shut down a conversation.

Look, if you guys only wanted a narrow discussion about helping refugees, you could've just locked the thread after two pages. I mean, seriously, everyone already agreed on that part anyway...

Exactly. It feels like topics lose their actual point because people end up arguing about whatever they want instead. Honestly, the way discussions go here is what really matters—specifically the way things are handled in Women's Corner. That level of narrow-mindedness is honestly scary... No wonder this whole site feels like it’s run by a tiny circle of twenty regulars. Every single controversial topic ends up proving the same thing: there’s zero real freedom of speech here. Not all members are treated equally, and some people definitely get a free pass while others don't...