São Paulo Grand Prix (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) | November 12-14, 2021

Kyle Lopez2 said:It’s just because I’m Black 😢😢😢😢

Man, he’s been on this kick for ages. I actually caught an interview on X the other day where he was straight up claiming people only hate on him at the track because of his race.

Linda Peterson43 said:Hasn't that already been stated?...
It looks like Mercedes just "shipped" a new engine upgrade. They probably squeezed out an extra 15 to 20 horsepower on top of an already capable Power Unit, and honestly, that’s about as much as you can expect...
Word on the street is that the Power Unit is typically spec'd to run for about 7,500 kilometers, yet Mercedes apparently "shipped" this specific PU with a lifespan of only 2,500 kilometers... basically because they don't need anything more to coast through the rest of the season... and by doing that, they managed to squeeze out some extra horsepower...
So, they’ve played it smart by handling the Power Unit swap strategically. Even if there ends up being a recalculation involving the "old" Power Unit, it shouldn't be an issue since that one is perfectly fine to use anyway...

Personally, I feel like they took things to a whole different level today. Lewis Hamilton was pushing at absolute limit for over 20 laps with that aggressive engine setup, and the tires actually held up—sure, lap times dropped, but they managed it. 😁.
Nowadays, with how tires behave, you can spend 7 or 8 laps stuck behind someone, barely even pushing past the delta, and you still eventually have to back off and build a 1.5 to 2-second gap just to let the rubber cool down.

It isn't even the first time I've noticed this pattern with Mercedes. Every so often, they pull off these stints toward the end of a race where I honestly find myself wondering how they manage to preserve their tires so effectively.

It honestly pisses me off watching team radio with Michael Masi—all that whining and groveling from both sides is just gross.

Jack Kelly5 said:☕[/I]

I mean, I don't think that really proves much. In the US, Lewis was just absolutely schooling them, like they were little kids.

I was responding to the specific idea that a wet race completely negates any technical advantages a car might have, allowing the drivers' raw talent to truly shine through.
But if we look back at when the track in Turkey was wet, one could argue that Lewis didn't exactly step into the spotlight in that way...

Elizabeth Mendoza said:It’s honestly just a matter of when, not if, Lewis Hamilton pulls ahead

And why are you so restless—drawing lines everywhere like that?

graniteharbor502 said:I was responding to the specific idea that a wet race completely negates any technical advantages a car might have, allowing the drivers' raw talent to truly shine through.
But if we look back at when the track in Turkey was wet, one could argue that Lewis didn't exactly step into the spotlight in that way...

but Valtteri Bottas was absolutely killing it. 😁

There he is, Toto just now...

Susan Jones8 said:but Valtteri Bottas was absolutely killing it. 😁

He was even less effective than that. At least they used him as a sort of test subject to see if switching over to those new intermediates would actually pay off, wouldn't you agree?

That’s it. It's over.

Lance Stroll is actually the best driver out there right now—he snatched pole in those absolute nightmare conditions in Turkey and was leading the race with a massive gap before the track finally dried out🙏

Douglas Roberts49 said:And why are you so restless—drawing lines everywhere like that?

It's actually a little creepy how fast you dug up a post from two months ago. Should I be worried?

bluepuma9 said:Lance Stroll is actually the best driver out there right now—he snatched pole in those absolute nightmare conditions in Turkey and was leading the race with a massive gap before the track finally dried out🙏

That is a conclusion you have essentially pulled out of thin air. We are merely building upon the notion of warping space-time, an idea some forum members attempt to manifest through their claims that Lewis Hamilton could somehow narrow his points deficit against Max Verstappen on a rain-soaked track at Spa-Francorchamps.

Just as I thought.

graniteharbor502 said:That is a conclusion you have essentially pulled out of thin air. We are merely building upon the notion of warping space-time, an idea some forum members attempt to manifest through their claims that Lewis Hamilton could somehow narrow his points deficit against Max Verstappen on a rain-soaked track at Spa-Francorchamps.

It’s a total coin toss.
In a wet race at Spa, anything can happen. Honestly, you might even see some backmarker take the win.

Well, there you have it. Huge congrats to Lewis Hamilton on the win. They were looking seriously fast this time around!

bluepuma9 said:It’s a total coin toss.
In a wet race at Spa, anything can happen. Honestly, you might even see some backmarker take the win.

Of course everything is on the table. We could see a Lewis Hamilton DNF followed by a victory for Max Verstappen, and so on, and so forth.

Finally, no dirty tactics, no dancing around the rules, no shoving people just to force a pit stop. It was great—bravo to the GOAT. Bottas, get it together, man.

graniteharbor502 said:That is a conclusion you have essentially pulled out of thin air. We are merely building upon the notion of warping space-time, an idea some forum members attempt to manifest through their claims that Lewis Hamilton could somehow narrow his points deficit against Max Verstappen on a rain-soaked track at Spa-Francorchamps.

Nobody is even saying that. The actual point—which you guys are either totally ignoring or just twisting around—is that nobody was supposed to get points for that race at all.
It’s like two football teams head out for warmups, the weather is right on the edge of being unplayable, things get worse mid-way through, and then the ref and the crew decide it’s too risky and call the whole thing off after a few minutes. Then later, they announce the favorite gets 1.5 points (half a win) and the underdog gets 0.5 (half a draw).
Sounds stupid, right? Would the favorite have won? Who knows.
It’s just plain dumb to hand out points when the game didn't even happen.
Same goes for giving points for a race that wasn't actually driven.
Honestly, I don't care if Lewis is better, Max is better, or if a literal saint is better. The point is, someone got points they didn't earn.

Later

Now there’s plenty of time to dig into the details of that rear wing design.

He also got an official warning for his behavior on the track.

James Collins said:Nobody is even saying that. The actual point—which you guys are either totally ignoring or just twisting around—is that nobody was supposed to get points for that race at all.
It’s like two football teams head out for warmups, the weather is right on the edge of being unplayable, things get worse mid-way through, and then the ref and the crew decide it’s too risky and call the whole thing off after a few minutes. Then later, they announce the favorite gets 1.5 points (half a win) and the underdog gets 0.5 (half a draw).
Sounds stupid, right? Would the favorite have won? Who knows.
It’s just plain dumb to hand out points when the game didn't even happen.
Same goes for giving points for a race that wasn't actually driven.
Honestly, I don't care if Lewis is better, Max is better, or if a literal saint is better. The point is, someone got points they didn't earn.

By that same logic, Lewis Hamilton shouldn't have been awarded points in the United Kingdom either, because isn't it equally absurd to grant points to a driver who essentially knocked his direct rival out of the race? 🤷
Lewis Hamilton walked away from that one with points he didn't truly deserve...

If you had asked me, that race at Spa-Francorchamps should have been completed rather than being called off entirely.