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Rhinoplasty: Experiences and recovery tips?

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rowdyfalcon35 rowdyfalcon35 Active MemberOP
69 messages
joined Feb 2012
#81 ·
restlesssurfer11 said:Some people just can't admit when they're wrong, and honestly? It’s not okay.🙂

What really gets me about this whole situation is that he actually told me he was just fixing a minor deviation. Meanwhile, he went and gave me a massive septal perforation! On top of that, there were other nasty issues, but this is easily the worst part. He can talk all he wants, but I have my pre-op CT scan. At least that serves some purpose since I sat through all that unnecessary radiation. I have every single medical record right here. He can take his excuses and shove them—he can try selling those stories to someone naive, because that’s exactly what I was. Just a fool. I used to think everyone here was happy with their results, but looking back, maybe two or three girls on this entire forum are satisfied. Everyone else keeps sliding into my DMs telling me how he messed them up—whether it's the aesthetics or the breathing—and now they're heading back in for more surgery. Thank God he didn't wreck their septum the way he did mine.
A refund is the absolute bare minimum they can do. Honestly, thank God I made it to the hospital in time and avoided meningitis. Huge thanks to the staff at Rib. People were practically crossing themselves seeing what this guy did—from the messed up dorsal area to these nasty complications that are going to be a nightmare to fix.
rowdyfalcon35 rowdyfalcon35 Active MemberOP
69 messages
joined Feb 2012
#82 ·
swiftheron55 said:This is awful....
You read through a thousand posts thinking Glusac is amazing, then just one single post comes along and completely wrecks your confidence;(🙂
It's no small thing when someone decides to go rogue like that. Honestly, I don't know how anyone has the nerve to do things they weren't explicitly told to do... if someone did that to me, I wouldn't even know how to react...
Plus, there are plenty of people who don't say everything they're actually thinking and then end up complaining, even though it's their own fault...
But your example is just catastrophic. A person can get carried away a little too easily.
I have surgery scheduled with him, and honestly, I'd probably cancel right now.
Just terrible.🙂

He’ll probably be way more careful with you now than he was when he operated on me—he was so nervous and egocentric back then. I really regret not listening to my gut...
crimsonbison92 crimsonbison92 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Mar 2012
#83 ·
Seriously, people, has anyone ever heard of having a wide nose specifically in the bony area? I’ve been scouring this entire forum and searching all over the internet, but there isn't a single word about it anywhere!
Nicholas Myers Nicholas Myers Active Member
163 messages
joined Jan 2012
#84 ·
One of the previous posts was removed because it contained an unacceptable sentence (an insult).

I realize some of you have had unpleasant experiences, but I ask that you remain civil in your posts and refrain from using profanity, crude language, or insults.

I appreciate your understanding.
rustygardener172 rustygardener172 Regular
455 messages
joined Feb 2010
#85 ·
Look, Glusac didn't even send me for a CT scan, nor did he say a single word about my sinuses... honestly, I’m still pretty happy with how things turned out.
Reading through all these horror stories gives me the absolute chills. I can't even begin to tell you how sorry I am that you guys had to go through that. 😢
It honestly feels like playing the Powerball in America—you just roll the dice and hope you actually walk away from nose surgery feeling satisfied.

rowdyfalcon35 At least you’ve got proof... you should call the Better Business Bureau or a consumer protection agency and see what you can do to get your money back. Don't just let them get away with this. Do it for yourself, but also for the next people who end up on his table. It’s obvious his ego has gotten so big he thinks he's walking on clouds, and he needs someone to knock him back down to earth. He needs to start focusing on the actual human beings he operates on instead of just chasing his own surgical stats...
swiftheron55 swiftheron55 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#86 ·
rustygardener172 said:Glusac didn't even send me for a CT scan, nor did he say a single word regarding my sinuses... yet, I remain objectively satisfied with the result.
When I read through these horrific experiences you all are sharing, I honestly get chills running down my spine. I truly cannot express how deeply sorry I am that any of you had to endure that 😢
It seems like going into nose surgery in America and actually coming out happy is nothing more than a game of Powerball.

rowdyfalcon35 at least you have actual proof... give the Better Business Bureau a call and see what you can do about getting your money back. Don't let this slide. Do it not just for your own sake, but for the sake of everyone else who might walk through his doors next. It’s painfully obvious that his ego has become so inflated he's practically floating above the clouds, and he needs something to bring him back down to earth. He really ought to start focusing on the actual people he operates on instead of just obsessing over his surgical volume...

You put that so beautifully... and you are absolutely, 100% right.🙂
Thomas Castillo6 Thomas Castillo6 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2010
#87 ·
Has anyone here had experience with Dr. Liscec in ST?
Does he handle deviated septums and/or nasal polyps?

Thanks in advance.
Rebecca Gomez37 Rebecca Gomez37 Active Member
116 messages
joined Jul 2009
#88 ·
Linda Wright19 said:Has anyone dealt with Dr. Liscec in ST?
Does he handle deviated septums and/or nasal polyps?

Thanks in advance

Yeah, but his prices are absolutely insane—he quoted me 23 $0.00. Apparently, he’s some big shot who spent years working at a high-end clinic in Switzerland before deciding to move back to the States.
A while back, I told a girl—I think it was stormyharbor2—that Glusac spent about ten years back in the 90s just flipping coffee beans for a living. For me, that was more than enough reason to cross him off my list. It feels pretty unprofessional for a doctor, honestly.
restlesssurfer11 restlesssurfer11 Member
31 messages
joined Mar 2012
#89 ·
rustygardener172 said:Glusac didn't even send me for a CT scan, and he barely said a word about my sinuses... honestly, I’m still pretty happy with how things turned out.
Reading through all these horror stories gives me literal chills. I can't even put into words how sorry I am that you guys had to go through that 😢
It feels like going in for nose surgery in America is just a total gamble sometimes if you want to come out satisfied.

rowdyfalcon35 at least you have proof... you should call the Better Business Bureau or consumer protection and see what you can do to get your money back. Don't let this slide. Not just for your sake, but for everyone else who ends up on his table next. It clearly looks like his ego has reached the stratosphere and he needs a reality check. He really needs to start focusing on the actual patients instead of just chasing his surgical numbers...

Yeah, as long as she has a receipt or any kind of medical report... something with his full name on it. Because otherwise, how do you even prove she was actually seeing him? I say this because I honestly don't know how private practices usually handle things, but I've heard stories about people not getting receipts or anything at all.
Seriously though, she shouldn't just let this go. She’s going to need to get another surgery anyway, so she might as well get that money back—and we aren't talking about pocket change here.
restlesssurfer11 restlesssurfer11 Member
31 messages
joined Mar 2012
#90 ·
rowdyfalcon35 said:What makes me the angriest about this whole mess is—get this—he actually left me with a perforated septum!! And not just a tiny little thing, it’s pretty significant! Plus all these other nasty issues... but this is definitely the worst part. All from what was supposed to be a simple, discreet deviation fix. He can talk all he wants, but I have my pre-op CT scan right here... at least I have that much to show for being unnecessarily irradiated, you know? I have every single lab result and scan. He can take his stories and shove them, though I guess he could try selling them to someone naive... kind of like how I was. Just a fool. That’s what I used to think, that everyone was happy with him, but honestly, looking at this entire forum, maybe two or three girls are actually satisfied. Everyone else keeps sliding into my DMs telling me things aren't right... whether it's the aesthetic look or the breathing issues, they're all ending up back on the operating table. Thank God he didn't ruin their septums the way he did mine.
Getting a refund is the absolute bare minimum at this point. Honestly, thank goodness I made it to the hospital in time and avoided meningitis. Huge thanks to the staff at Rib... people were practically crossing themselves when they saw what this guy had done, from the sunken bridge of my nose to these horrible complications that are going to be so hard to fix...

I honestly don't get how he thought he could just ignore a hole in someone's nose?!? Seriously, tell me, have you already told him you want your money back?
restlesssurfer11 restlesssurfer11 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#91 ·
Rebecca Gomez37 said:Seriously, the prices are absolutely insane... they wanted 23 bucks from me $0.00. Apparently, he’s some big shot who spent years working at this high-end clinic in Switzerland before deciding to move back home to America.
I actually mentioned this to a girl a while back—I think it was stormyharbor2—about how Glusac spent about ten years back in the 90s just buying and selling coffee beans. To me, that was more than enough reason to cross him off my list immediately. It feels so unprofessional for someone who’s supposed to be a doctor...

Yeah, back in the 90s, cosmetic surgery wasn't nearly as huge as it is now, so I guess he had to find something to do 🙂. Can you even imagine his face if you showed up to an appointment with a bag of coffee and a little bottle of liqueur? 😂😂😂
Amy Phillips3 Amy Phillips3 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#92 ·
restlesssurfer11 said:Yeah, cosmetic surgery wasn't nearly as huge back in the 90s, so he had to find something else to do🙂 Can you even imagine his face when you bring him a large coffee and a little liqueur?😂😂😂


What on earth does his history with coffee have to do with anything? This entire comment is complete nonsense... it has absolutely zero connection to his profession. Why on earth couldn't a person have a side hustle alongside their main job to make some extra cash?😂
Amy Phillips3 Amy Phillips3 Member
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#93 ·
restlesssurfer11;38706338 said:Exactly, if they issued her an invoice or any kind of medical report, she needs confirmation with his full name and surname... Because how else can she prove she was actually seen by him? I say this because I honestly have no clue what the standard practice is with private practitioners, but I've heard there are cases where no receipt or anything at all is ever handed over.
She absolutely should not let this slide! Since she’ll be undergoing another surgery anyway, the least they can do is refund her money—and we aren't talking about pocket change here.

Every single one of them is legally required to issue a receipt; it's only an issue if you choose not to demand it...
Because if he refuses to provide one, he is essentially committing tax evasion, which is just another way for him to break the law.😠
restlesssurfer11 restlesssurfer11 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#94 ·
Amy Phillips3 said:I mean, what does it matter if he worked with coffee? Honestly, this whole comment is just nonsense... it has nothing to do with his actual profession... why shouldn't a guy have a side hustle or some other interest besides his main job to make a little extra cash?😂

Because it just looks tacky for such a high-profile doctor...
restlesssurfer11 restlesssurfer11 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#95 ·
Amy Phillips3;38706574 said:
restlesssurfer11 said:Yeah, if he gave her an invoice or any kind of medical report, she needs something with his full name on it... I mean, how else can you prove she actually saw him? I’m saying this because I honestly have no clue how private practices work, but I’ve heard stories about people not getting receipts or anything at all.
She definitely shouldn't let this slide. She's going under for another surgery anyway, so she might as well try to get her money back—and we aren't talking small change here.

Every single one of them is required by law to give you a receipt. It's only if you don't demand it that they skip it...
Because if he doesn't issue one, that's straight-up tax evasion, which means he's breaking the law all over again.😠

Look, they are also legally obligated to provide accurate details regarding the condition of the nose after the procedure, so it's not just about the paperwork. And they should be owning up to their mistakes, too, but apparently that's asking too much. So why on earth would he bother issuing a receipt? Just because he'll feel the sting in his wallet??? That's exactly where the issue lies—it's all about profit, profit, profit!!!
Rebecca Gomez37 Rebecca Gomez37 Active Member
116 messages
joined Jul 2009
#96 ·
Amy Phillips3 said:So what if he worked with coffee? This whole comment is just plain stupid... it has zero to do with his actual job. Why shouldn't a guy have a side hustle to make some extra cash alongside his main gig?😂

I don't know how old you are, but this idea that "I'll be a doctor for a little bit, then I won't be—I'll actually be an entrepreneur, but not really a doctor, and certainly not the best in the world"—is, in my opinion, completely ridiculous and totally unprofessional.
Jessica Gomez5 Jessica Gomez5 Member
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joined Dec 2013
#97 ·
wanderingmason86 said:The nasal mucosa reacts dynamically based on what you need. In a healthy state without obstruction symptoms, the lining isn't actually 100% clear in both nostrils—it might be, say, 80% in one and 50% in the other. Since that’s enough for normal breathing, most people don't even notice any struggle. When the body senses a higher demand (like during exercise, anxiety, etc.), the response includes extra decongestion of the nasal lining. All of this is perfectly normal; you probably just wouldn't notice the congestion if you didn't have a healed fracture narrowing the nasal passage in one or both nostrils. You can't "cure" the nasal cycle.
And the issue with the sprays is that after all this time, it's become its own separate problem. Your lining swells up even more once the medication wears off—do a quick Google search for "rhinitis medicamentosa."
Try cutting out the sprays and switching to a saline solution (you can buy it at a pharmacy in infusion bags)—you won't be able to breathe at all for a few days, but sooner or later, you just have to do it. After a week or so, you'll feel better, and then you absolutely must see an ENT specialist.

P.S. Check out these other discussions on the forum: first, second.


Thank you again... I'm honestly scared about how much I've been using those sprays too. I have no idea what the long-term effects are... people say it's bad for your heart and things like that, I don't even know... plus, I had some allergies acting up for a couple of days, so I was basically leaking constantly... even the sprays weren't helping much. For instance, right now while I'm typing this, my right nostril is breathing normally... it's like nothing ever happened... and I haven't used any spray since yesterday afternoon. The human body is such a strange thing. And then tonight, it'll probably clog up again. I'll go ahead and get those patches you mentioned... the pharmacist recommended that sea water spray too, but nothing works. The problem is that both my nostrils are practically blocked... so if I don't use the spray in my right side, I have to hold my left side shut just to breathe... and it feels silly wearing patches during the day.
rowdyfalcon35 rowdyfalcon35 Active MemberOP
69 messages
joined Feb 2012
#98 ·
rustygardener172 said:rowdyfalcon35 at least you have proof... call the Better Business Bureau or consumer protection and see what you can do to get your money back. Don't let this slide. Not just for yourself, but for everyone else who's going to end up going to him next. Clearly, his ego has reached the clouds and he needs something to bring him back down to earth. He needs to focus on the people he's operating on instead of just the number of surgeries he completes...

That’s exactly my goal. If he’s going to operate, he needs to be more careful with patients. He needs to calm down that nervous energy—all those constant swear words and outbursts while he's badmouthing other doctors during surgery. He even admitted himself that a surgeon needs a steady hand because if a perforation happens, the nose is basically toast. After all the complications following my surgery—everything from heavy bleeding for three days to a literal cyst—I was asking him every single day why this was happening. My gut told me something was wrong, but I eventually trusted him when he called me "sensitive" and said I was just part of that 5% of people who react strongly after surgery and that everything was fine. Even when that cyst appeared, he insisted it was supposed to happen and told me I was just panicking for no reason. I tried to stay positive and thought it would work out. Unfortunately, things just kept getting worse every day, both aesthetically and functionally. He told me I was draining a lot of physiological fluid and if I had to blow my nose, to do it very gently so I wouldn't disturb anything further. When I asked what exactly I could "disturb" and if maybe a perforation had occurred, he said no. So, a month later, I went back to my regular life, but every day got worse. That hole in my nose started dropping significantly, and it began stinging. I sent him a photo to get his opinion because you could literally see from an airplane angle that something was wrong. He didn't respond for a few days, then I called him and he just said everything was fine, that he'd add some fat from my knee to fix it, and that the indentation was just because a cyst formed and dropped once he removed it. I talked to some other people who had surgery, and they all thought what was happening to me was bizarre and told me I should go see someone else. Everyone else breathed better after their surgery, but I was breathing worse, even after he cleaned me out. One person breathed fine, the other struggled, and that second person had been stinging since day one, both during cleaning and generally. I went to the hospital, and after finding out about the septum defect, the fistulas, and all that, he tells me it's nothing and that the doctors I saw don't have a clue. I'll just say the doctors literally crossed themselves when they saw what was done. To go from a minor deviation to these kinds of problems... regardless of whether he was selling coffee in the past, present, or future—that's his business. I just want justice. I want him to be held accountable for his actions and finally admit he messed up, even if it's just saying "it happens to the best of us." Just admit it and stop lying to me, because I am exhausted. I've had enough of breathing through my throat and having to listen to wheezing every time I breathe. The doctors told me it will get worse because the hole will grow and the nose will sink even more, and they gave me emergency treatment. I have to emphasize that after the surgery, I didn't receive any antibiotics for either the first or second time, even though I had a high fever, nausea, and constant sneezing fits. He told me it was normal and I didn't need them. Since the inflammation wasn't treated, it got worse, and pus started forming in the healthy operated sinuses. I have the proof. I have the receipts. And since I have to live with this until my next surgery—which is questionable given how difficult my case is and the months of misery ahead—I want an admission of guilt and accountability. I want to teach all doctors to be more careful during surgery, because one seemingly harmless case can turn into a catastrophe that is nearly impossible to fix.
hiddenseal14 hiddenseal14 Member
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joined Mar 2023
#99 ·
rowdyfalcon35, you really need to stand up for yourself. Tell him straight to his face that you’ll go public with all those 👍
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These comments claiming he’s a bad doctor because he used to sell coffee—honestly, I can't even bring myself to respond to how incredibly stupid and tasteless that is.
restlesssurfer11 restlesssurfer11 Member
31 messages
joined Mar 2012
#100 ·
hiddenseal14 said:rowdyfalcon35, you gotta stand up for yourself. Tell him straight up that you’ll go public with all these 👍

comments... honestly, saying someone is a bad doctor just because they used to sell coffee? I can't even deal. I won't even bother commenting on how stupid and tasteless that logic is.

I really don't get why you jumped to the conclusion that someone is a bad doctor just because they sold coffee? It’s not that I think he’s bad or good based on that... it's just that I don't see why anyone would mix their side business with their medical practice in the first place? To me, he seems like a very successful entrepreneur, but I never actually said he was a bad doctor. In fact, I even pointed out that nobody is so incompetent that they’d mess everything up for everyone. I didn't even know about that detail until today, and I'd already crossed Gusac off my list. Look, he's a doctor who has performed a huge number of successful surgeries, but let me say this one more time... it doesn't bother me that he messed things up, rowdyfalcon35... what bothers me is how he stubbornly insists everything is fine. Even now, despite all her issues and the findings from other doctors, he keeps claiming he's right and that nobody else has a clue. In my opinion, that doesn't make him a great man or a high-quality doctor. Everyone makes mistakes, but you have to own them. And honestly, all this trash-talking about his colleagues? It's just ridiculous and makes no sense at all.

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