Past INmusic Festival lineups & sets (Archive)

Yeah... I read that line too, but I figured... maybe they just totally messed up. 😁

Jose White23 said:Which festivals have you actually been to where camping was free?

Back at Coachella about three years ago...

Yeah, Morgan Palmer2... I forgot, I'm with you on that. Same thing happened two years ago when they had Franz Ferdinand, Moby, and Kraftwerk headlining...

Morgan Palmer2 said:Back at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival three years ago...

Three years ago, the campsite was nothing more than a patch of dirt for tents. Now, they’ve got hot showers, restrooms, power, Wi-Fi, secure storage, and a whole host of other amenities. Any festival that provides a decent camping experience with actual facilities is going to charge for it—look at Lollapalooza or Bonnaroo, some of the biggest names in the US. They have overhead to cover for all those services. Why shouldn't this festival charge for them?...

Honestly, I don't really care, I'm just saying... I have no intention of taking advantage of any of the camp amenities anyway.

I’m not planning on using them either. My point is simply that if something was free three years ago and now costs money, it’s because they’ve added features to the price that weren't there before—things that actually make camping a lot more comfortable.

Old habits die hard, I guess...

I'm coming after all. 🤷

David Sullivan4 said:Three years ago, this camp was basically just an open field for tents. Now, they’ve got hot showers, restrooms, electricity, Wi-Fi, secure storage, and a bunch of other amenities. I suppose any decent festival that provides actual infrastructure within its camping area—think Coachella or Lollapalooza—is going to charge for those perks. It makes sense; the organizers have to pay someone to maintain all that equipment and service.

Lollapalooza offers all of that, plus charging stations and they even broadcasted the World Cup on a massive video wall last year, and the whole thing is free!

coastalfox26 said:Lollapalooza has all that plus phone charging stations + they had the World Cup on the big screen last year, and it’s all included!

Lollapalooza tickets are only like three times the price though...

Lollapalooza doesn't book acts like this even if they were willing to play at 1:00 PM, though I guess there are exceptions, like maybe Mastodon. If you actually look at their lineup over the last seven years... P.S. I really don't want to go off-topic anymore so I won't dwell on it, I just wanted to point out that these are all pretty "small" bands. Where are the "A-list" headliners?

It’s all just a matter of taste, honestly. Like, at this year's Lollapalooza, there are only about four bands out of 78 that actually grab my attention—Motörhead, Flogging Molly, Social Distortion, and SOAD. You’re looking at this year's Coachella and only one name out of 20 hits the spot for you: Mastodon. The ratio is basically the same. It should be pretty obvious that Coachella wasn't designed specifically to pull people like you in, just like Lollapalooza isn't built for me or anyone else with my vibe...

What you call "A-list" or "B-list" probably means absolutely nothing to me, and vice versa. I mean, sure, some legends like Motörhead are universal, and I guess Nick Cave is alright too, plus Arcade Fire is a pretty big deal...🤷

I suppose we can all agree that you just can't put Nick Cave or Arcade Fire in the same league as heavyweights like Metallica, Iron Maiden, Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down, U2, AC/DC, or Rage Against the Machine... though personally, I've never been much for the Red Hot Chili Peppers or U2 myself. I guess I just don't understand why American festivals seem to lean so heavily into the underground scene. You have things like the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival focusing on indie, or Hartera leaning into electro... but at the end of the day, it feels like there's only a few thousand Americans and Canadians actually tuning in. I wonder why they don't aim higher, maybe with something like a massive World Fest. What was missing for acts like The Prodigy, Serj Tankian, or Franz Ferdinand? They might not be the absolute pinnacle of the music scene, but they're certainly on the right track somewhere.

coastalfox26 said:I don't think Nick Cave and Arcade Fire belong in the same conversation as Metallica, Iron Maiden, Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down, U2, AC/DC, or Rage Against the Machine... I assume we agree on that (even if I'm not really into RHCP or U2 myself). I just can't wrap my head around why American festivals lean so heavily into the underground. Like, Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival goes indie, and then you have others focusing on electronic music... It feels like there's only a niche crowd of a few thousand Americans and Canadians listening to all of that combined. Why not host a massive World Fest? What was missing from the lineups for The Prodigy, Serj Tankian, or Franz Ferdinand? They aren't the absolute pinnacle of the scene, but they're solid enough.

It’s simply because the acts you mentioned wouldn't be able to afford the booking fees, and honestly, why would they bother playing a festival when they can sell out stadiums on their own?

Indie, electronic, reunion acts, or those "tier two" bands—that's just the reality for our domestic festival circuit right now. But I'll say this: it's still a step up. Five years ago, nobody wanted to book shows here. Unfortunately, electronic music isn't huge in the States at the moment, though it was really booming about ten years back. As for indie, plenty of people listen to it, but personally, I find "indie" to be such a broad term that it's almost meaningless, and lately, it feels like it's just becoming the new mainstream.

Where on earth is Jello Biafra?!!!?!

http://www.alternativetentacles.com/tours.php

Hehe, looks like they lost him. Brilliant! Another massive win for them!

Roger Newman50 said:Where on earth is Jello Biafra ?!!!?!

http://www.alternativetentacles.com/tours.php

I think this was the first place the news actually leaked, and looking at it now, it’s basically the same info as your link. It seems pretty clear that Jello just totally blew them off.

Morgan Palmer2, why not just let the organizers make an official statement?

If this actually happened, it’s nothing new. Back in 2003, Jello Biafra was scheduled for a spoken word set at The Fillmore, but his agency booked a Jellov show in New York City on the exact same date without ever telling the venue...

David Sullivan4 said:Morgan Palmer2, why don't we just let the organizers make an official statement?

If this actually happened, it certainly isn't a first. Back in 2003, Jello Biafra had a spoken word set scheduled at The Fillmore, only for his agency to book a Jellov performance in New York City on that exact same date without ever notifying the venue...

From what I can tell, New York City is once again the source of all the trouble! It's a total case of déjà vu! 🤣

David Sullivan4 said:Morgan Palmer2, maybe we should just wait for the organizers to make an official statement?

If this actually happened, it’s definitely not the first time. Back in 2003, Jello Biafra had a spoken word set scheduled at The Fillmore, but his agency—without telling the venue a thing—booked a Jellov show in New York City on that exact same day.

It’s pretty common knowledge that the Coachella organizers don't really step up to speak publicly, especially when the news is bad. 🙂