Past INmusic Festival lineups & sets (Archive)

amberranger said:The math just isn't adding up here. RATM would cost at least seven times more than AF... any kind of break-even point for a group like RATM is way beyond what Central Park can even hold. So, yeah, that’s never going to happen.

AF is actually a pretty solid pick. Maybe the issue lies elsewhere with the rest of the lineup...

I hear everything being said, but I'll put my money on the fact that I don't agree that Arcade Fire has surpassed RATM, SOAD, or bands like them... honestly, I only recently heard them myself and I wasn't exactly blown away by the hype. They aren't bad, but they aren't anything spectacular either...

amberranger said:The math just isn't adding up here. I mean, RATM would cost at least seven times more than AF. There's no way they'd ever hit a break-even point given how small Central Park is compared to their touring costs. Honestly, you can probably forget about seeing them here.

AF is actually a pretty decent pick. Maybe the issue lies elsewhere in the lineup.

I'm on the same page. If you look back at my previous posts, you'll see I never actually suggested we need to bring in RATM—that's just wishful thinking on my part. I wasn't saying we need these massive, overpriced acts either. There are plenty of cheaper bands that are worth seeing instead of these overhyped names. They could have easily booked Shunk, Korn, Apocaliptyac, Manu Chao, ADF, Flogging Molly, Pendulum Live, or many others I don't follow closely enough to name... all of whom happen to be touring the US this summer. Then you've got the likes of Foo Fighters, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit, Dream Theater, and Guano Apes... all of whom are playing around the States right now.

coastalfox26 said:Look, I’ve just heard Arcade Fire for the first time—mostly because you claimed they're better than RATM—and I have zero clue what you're talking about. You're comparing a one-hit-wonder type band that nobody will remember by next year (think Franz Ferdinand or Kaiser Chiefs, though I've seen both live) to legends like RATM and SOAD. Those guys sell out reunion tours and have hundreds of thousands of die-hard fans, especially RATM. And yeah, RATM was the top pick for Lollapalooza fans last year, but they couldn't even book them, so for Coachella, they're basically just a dream for now...
P.S. For me, the best lineup had to be The Prodigy, Serj, and ADF..

Of course I was talking about what's hot right now. If we were debating pure musical greatness, I would've said they've been surpassed by everyone mentioned except AC/DC and early U2. But hey, let's be real, even your favorites, RATM, aren't exactly useless.
And as for nobody remembering Arcade Fire? Don't talk nonsense. You'll regret saying that later.

I mean, what’s the deal with RATM? Their first album was solid, sure, but everything after that just feels kind of aimless, you know? Like, they have a good song here and there, but it's mostly filler. And Arcade Fire? Give me a break! :-) Maybe I should've gone last year because of those new Alice in Chains tracks, but honestly, I'm just looking forward to seeing Mastodon. Oh, and man, Cypress Hill used to know how to throw a party back in the day.

The real issue with the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival isn't actually the headliners—honestly, they don't even need to be massive superstars in my book. The real problem is the rest of the lineup. Like, you get AF and Grinderman, sure, but then there are maybe two or three other decent names, and the rest is just a bunch of totally irrelevant local demo bands (still waiting on news about The Roxy, by the way) that nobody is going to show up for and frankly, nobody cares about. I mean, a festival is supposed to be a festival because of a recognizable, well-balanced lineup. Take Matetov at Terraneo, for instance; I think it's their first year, which is almost hard to believe.

It honestly feels like the people running Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival either have no clue what they're doing or they just don't care about the job. For example, I only found out AF was playing this year (which I’m super stoked about, don't get me wrong) after I accidentally stumbled upon some review in the morning paper praising their last album—it's probably the first time the organizer had even heard of the band.

I don't think they need these massive giants—not that they could even fit them into the ticket price anyway. If they were actually capable of organizing someone like Rage Against the Machine, let it be a standalone concert at a venue like a major racetrack, where tickets go for $500-$200 and if you want to pay it, hey, be my guest.

But really, the bottom line is that for the $300 I dropped, I should just get AF, Grinderman, TV on the Radio, Mastodon, and maybe The Streets... just pack all that into one day and call it a day, without all this other random filler.

I'm actually listening to Cut Copy right now; I noticed they have a gap between Sonar, I think on the 17th, and some concert in Israel on the 23rd, but I know there's no way they'll be at Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

I wish Terraneo would just set up in a major hub like NYC (so I wouldn't have to deal with all the logistical nightmares of traveling across the coast), or maybe Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival should just happen in some small town in the Midwest during a local fair or a biker rally... judging by the organizers' mindset and a musical taste that seems based mostly on MTV Germany (Gentleman 🤦), that's pretty much where they belong.

So here I am—wondering if it's just me or everyone else—how does Cut Copy even fit into the picture alongside these better bands?

I don't know much about LCD Soundsystem, but I'm pretty much on board with most of what mew said.

Larry Morales12 said:So now I'm wondering—and maybe most people feel the same—where does LCD Soundsystem actually fit in compared to these top-tier bands?

Look, LCD Soundsystem is a killer electro-pop act with three solid albums under their belt.
Hard to pin them down; they aren't exactly mainstream, but they aren't strictly underground indie either. Still, they've been a totally respectable band over the last five years.
Personally, I'd love to see them show up because they're a staple in my rotation.

coastalfox26 said:I’m this Arcade Fire guy, hearing them for the first time (and only because you claimed they’re better than RATM), and I have no clue what you're talking about. You're comparing a one-year wonder that nobody will remember by next year (think Franz Ferdinand or Kaiser Chiefs... even though I saw both live) to RATM (and SOAD) who have sold-out reunion tours and hundreds of thousands of fans (especially RATM)... and yeah, RATM was the top pick for Lollapalooza attendees last year, and since they couldn't book them, they're basically the SF choice for Coachella (for now)...
P.S. my favorite lineup was The Prodigy, Serj, and ADF..

The fact that someone is hearing about a band for the first time means absolutely nothing.

With their first album, Arcade Fire topped every relevant year-end list out there—from Rolling Stone to Pitchfork. Sure, they hadn't aggressively hit MTV yet back then. That was 2004. They completely conquered the music world, from the indie crowd and rock critics to U2, who used to kick off every Vertigo Tour show by playing "Wake Up" from Funerala. Later on, Arcade Fire actually opened for U2 on that same tour.
How much they've grown since then just shows there's zero chance they'll be opening for them anymore (that role has fallen to Interpol and Snow Patrol... or Muse if they ever play in the US).
Also, it really doesn't matter if someone hasn't heard that they won a Grammy for Album of the Year this year. The big one. If someone hasn't heard of them, it just shows they aren't keeping up with global music trends, but it says nothing about how significant Arcade Fire is today.
Personally, I think they're great, though their second album is a bit mid for me—only halfway decent. Everyone talks about how incredible they are live, but seeing them at Joss Holland was enough to convince me.
As for their influence on the rest of the music scene today (if we aren't talking about the super commercial side like Lady Gaga, Beyoncé, and the like), I don't think anyone has as much pull as they do, along with probably Animal Collective. No band hits the level of influence Radiohead once had, but I think these guys are the most prominent right now. Maybe Animal Collective pushes their "style" even harder—you can see it even on the latest Sufjan Stevens album—but AF is definitely in that conversation...

Bottom line, I can't wait to finally catch them live. 🙂

I’ve been saying this for over a year now, ever since I first dropped the line: "Arcade Fire is the best band alive right now, and Animal Collective is pure genius."

I'm totally with mew on this one, and honestly, I'll add that LCD Soundsystem is incredible—their albums and DJ compilations are top-tier stuff.

On the flip side, I can confirm that the people running Coachella don't have a clue about music and clearly don't give a damn about it either.

I forgot to mention, it’s festival season. 😁

dustytrucker51 said:Just because someone's hearing about a band for the first time doesn't actually mean anything...

Back in 2004, Arcade Fire’s debut basically swept every major year-end list out there, from Rolling Stone to Pitchfork. They hadn't even broken into the MTV crowd yet, but they had already completely conquered the music scene... everyone from the indie kids to the rock critics was obsessed. Even U2 was feeling it—they used to kick off every show on the Vertigo Tour with "Wake Up" from Funeral. Eventually, Arcade Fire ended up opening for U2 on that same tour...
Just look at how much they've grown since then. There's zero chance they'd ever be an opening act again... now it's just left to Interpol and Snow Patrol to handle the warm-up duties... maybe even the Museum if they end up playing in the States...
It honestly doesn't matter if people aren't aware they picked up a Grammy for Album of the Year this year. It’s the big one. Maybe it just shows that anyone who hasn't heard of them is out of the loop when it comes to what's actually happening in the music scene, but it doesn't change how much Arcade Fire matters today...
I think they're actually great, though their second album falls a bit flat for me since it's only halfway decent. Everyone raves about how incredible they are live, but seeing them at Joss Holland was more than enough to convince me...
When you look at what’s actually shaping the music scene today—setting aside the massive pop juggernauts like Lady Gaga or Beyoncé—I don't think anyone carries as much weight as those guys. And honestly, probably Animal Collective too. No single band touches the level of influence Radiohead once had, but they're still the most prominent ones around. Maybe Animal Collective pushes their specific sound even harder; you can hear traces of it even on the latest Sufjan Stevens record, though Arcade Fire is definitely in that same orbit...

All things considered, I'm just counting down the days until I can finally hear them live... 🙂

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Arcade Fire is everything. Honestly, I'm kicking myself for only getting into them a year ago, but you can imagine how stoked I was when I heard they were hitting Coachella... 😲 😲 😲 😍 😍 😍

I’d drop all that cash just to see them... plus getting to catch Cave and Jamiroquai live would be a nice bonus, even if those bands aren't exactly my usual go-to... 😁

Man, if they actually pull off a zero day—though honestly, that ship has probably already sailed—it would perfectly coincide with my exam schedule exactly as it stands... 😁

Here is the survey regarding the download—feel free to fill it out and send it over to kresimir@stopic.net.

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/286...%20anketa.docx

Does anyone else remember... exactly when the final names were announced and the full schedule was released last year? We have less than a month to go before the festival kicks off.

Regarding the chatter about the lineup itself... it seems to me that even if the organizers don't have much of a clue when it comes to music, they somehow always manage to book at least one band that makes people pull the trigger on tickets. Plus, the location and the overall vibe of the festival are quite pleasant—so a lot of people end up buying passes just for the atmosphere and the company. Ultimately, I suspect Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival will eventually burn itself out by hiking up ticket prices while offering uninspiring lineups; hopefully, they'll learn their lesson by then.
Given how ridiculously cheap these tickets are (compared to the rest of the US), you can't really expect miracles—but if someone like Mate manages to pull together a festival for $100 and brings in two acts that would practically be headliners (think National or La Roux) along with a few other names that would definitely land on a major festival poster, then Coachella could actually look better than this.

I was looking into it the other day—Alice in Chains dropped on May 24th, if my memory serves—but that was essentially Day Zero. As for the ones before that, I haven't a clue. I could probably check Facebook, but honestly, I just can't be bothered. 😁

Justin Wells3 said:Does anyone else remember when they dropped that final lineup announcement last year? It feels like just yesterday. We’re officially less than a month away from the festival now. Time really flies.

I think it was maybe a week or two before the festival started—if my memory serves me right—and I remember looking over the lineup schedule just a few days prior.

Justin Wells3 said:Regarding the chatter about the lineup itself... it seems to me that no matter how little musical knowledge the organizers actually possess, they somehow always stumble upon at least one band that manages to drive ticket sales. Plus, the location and the overall vibe of the festival are so pleasant that plenty of people just grab a pass for the sake of the company. All things considered, Coachella is going to hit a wall one of these years when the tickets get too pricey and the lineup turns stale—hopefully, that’ll finally serve as a wake-up call for them.

Pretty solid rating.

Justin Wells3 said:Look, when tickets are priced this ridiculously cheap—especially compared to what you’d pay anywhere else in the States—you can't exactly expect miracles. But if someone like Mate manages to pull off... $100 If we could just pull together the funding to land two massive acts—I'm talking names like National or La Roux that would basically serve as the headliners for Coachella—and then layer in a solid lineup around them, the whole festival would be on a completely different level. Honestly, if we could make that happen, Coachella would easily outshine everything else we've seen lately.

It really depends on which price bracket you're comparing it to, but honestly, Coachella wasn't exactly cheap on average either. $100 If you manage to snag your tickets early enough, you can actually skip the extra fees. The real difference between the two shows is that Coachella has a massive lineup of sponsors backing them, whereas Mate doesn't have that kind of support. Honestly, it's pretty unlikely that any artist currently working with Terraneo would be headlining a major fest like Coachella anytime soon.

Justin Wells3 asked when the lineup dropped last year. Honestly, I have no clue—but this year might be a late bloomer; from what I can gather, they aren't even voting on the final festival act until June 17th. Top-tier organization, clearly. 🙂

About a week before things kick off, here's a little clue:

http://dalje.com/iz-minute-u-minutu/...php?id=3504898

Arthur Garcia59 said:I’ve been saying this for over a year now, ever since I came up with the idea that "Arcade Fire is the best band of our era, and Animal Collective is the most brilliant"".

I totally agree with what mew said, and I’ll add that LCD Soundsystem is just fantastic—their albums and DJ compilations are top-tier.

On the flip side, I can confirm that the organizers of Coachella have absolutely no clue about music, nor do they even seem to care.

Even though I think Arcade Fire is great, they aren't quite the best band alive to me—there are a few higher-quality bands out there in my opinion... though, when I look at them compared to that ridiculous, almost second-rate band with the irritating name Animal Collective, then their spot at the top of the global music scene makes perfect sense.

All I need is to hear this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxE4k...eature=related

and then all those snobby little chirpers like Animal Collective and their kind can just head to 3 p.m., which is exactly where they belong.

Morgan Palmer2 said:About a week before things kicked off, here is a lead:

http://dalje.com/iz-minute-u-minutu/...php?id=3504898

That article was posted on June 14, 2010, at 1:51 PM... what are you even talking about? 🤷