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Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
28 messages
joined Nov 2016
#801 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:Forget all that juice-only stuff. It’s useless...
I already know people who tried treating themselves with mushrooms, shiitake, biota juices, etc.—it's all total crap.
That old guy Brojs in that book doesn't even give you a real recipe with actual measurements; it's just some outdated nonsense that makes zero sense...
It just sends you down the wrong path.
Look, Noni, beta Glucan, Shiitake juices and fungi, biota juices (per Brojs), IP6 with Inositol—all of that is basically whistling in the wind against cancer that's already taken hold. Period.
And they peddle this stuff through these so-called "expert" doctors who just want to cash in on someone else's tragedy.

Personally, I know two people who recovered using nothing but Breuss. (I actually talked to one of them a few days ago—she’s alive and kicking 20 years after following the Breuss method.) To me, it isn't complicated at all; everything is laid out crystal clear. An outdated recipe?? You think there's some "newer" version?
If anyone actually cares, they can find the details over at alternativa.
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#802 ·
There is absolutely no way a body can survive on nothing but juice for a month—especially if you're stuck in bed most of the time. You’ll end up with muscle atrophy until you're basically just skin and bones, and then all those secondary health issues start piling on. Before you know it, you're too weak to even get out of bed, you end up hospitalized, and then you have to deal with our crooked healthcare system and nurses who couldn't care less because they're too busy watching daytime TV to actually pay attention.
For basic daily bodily functions, your system desperately needs protein, which totally flies in the face of Brojs's vague theory that cancer feeds off protein intake so we should just cut it out entirely. Personally, I’d go even further and say you need massive amounts of protein. If I were fighting cancer, that’s exactly what I’d be doing.
His book is pretty thin on details; it just says patients need to stay active, but let's be real—you aren't exactly hitting the gym regularly if you're dealing with lung cancer or other severe stages, though maybe some people with milder cases could manage it.
Then he goes off on recommending some kind of onion broth... honestly, the whole thing is just onions and water... 🙂
Arthur Castillo Arthur Castillo Newcomer
9 messages
joined Apr 2009
#803 ·
What kind of juice diet are we even talking about, people? You need actual food! When I was struggling, they gave me two weeks of solid nutrition, and it’s been ten years since then. I ate everything from oatmeal and yogurt to steak and hearty stews. Honestly, who actually lives off nothing but juices? No matter what they're made of. Good food, a positive mindset, and just keep moving forward!
Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
28 messages
joined Nov 2016
#804 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:No way in hell the body can survive on just juice for a month, especially if you're stuck in bed most of the time. You end up with muscle atrophy until you're basically skin and bones, then all those secondary illnesses pile on. Before you know it, you're bedridden from pure weakness, end up in the hospital, and then our corrupt healthcare system and nurses who couldn't care less because they're too busy watching daytime TV take over.
For basic daily functions, your body absolutely needs proteins. This totally clashes with Brojs's fuzzy theory that cancer feeds off protein intake, so we should just cut it out. Honestly, I’d go even further and say you need massive amounts of protein. If I had cancer, that's exactly what I'd do.
His book is pretty thin on details, though it does mention patients need to stay mobile—but let's be real, you aren't exactly hitting the gym if you've got lung cancer or some other heavy-duty diagnosis, maybe only with the milder stuff.
Then he suggests some kind of onion broth... please, it's all just onions and water... 🙂

It wasn't a month; it was 42 days. Sure, you lose some muscle mass, but that's a small price to pay for getting better. The body taps into its existing protein stores, and if you follow the rules, you'll recover.
The method works way better if the patient hasn't already gone through chemo and radiation. Your organs need to be functioning, and the patient needs to have at least some strength left. With terminal cases, don't expect any miracles.
I personally tried this regimen for 15 days. I felt surprisingly good the whole time, and it actually cleared up some minor health issues I was dealing with.
That said, if I were fighting cancer, I wouldn't be loading up on extra protein either.
cosmicviper76 cosmicviper76 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2008
#805 ·
I could really use some insight here.
A colleague of mine just had surgery to remove a mole, and the pathology report came back reading
Dg: MELANOMA T2a (superficial spreading type)

Does anyone know what stage we're actually looking at here?
Thanks in advance.
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#806 ·
cosmicviper76 said:I need some advice here.
A colleague of mine just had surgery to remove a mole, and the diagnosis came back as
Dg: MELANOMA T2a (superficial spreading type)

What stage does that actually fall under?
Thanks

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/co..._staged_50.asp
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#807 ·
Jamie Rivera78 said:It’s not just a month—we’re talking 42 days here. And yeah, sure, you’re going to lose some muscle mass, but honestly, that’s a tiny price to pay if it means actually getting healthy. Your body just taps into its existing protein stores, and as long as you follow the rules, you'll recover.
This whole method works way better if the patient hasn't already gone through chemo or radiation. You need the organs to be functioning and the patient to have at least a little bit of strength left in them. If we're talking about terminal patients, let's be real—you can't expect miracles.
I personally tried this regimen for 15 days myself. I felt surprisingly good the whole time, and I actually cleared up some minor health issues.
Anyway, I would never dream of loading up a cancer patient with extra protein.

Look, fasting first slows down your metabolism. Once that happens, the body starts cannibalizing protein from your muscles... and yeah, even your heart muscle. Hair starts falling out... teeth get loose and fall out. You get sores all over your skin and mouth. Eventually, you just die.
I don't buy for a second that cutting out protein does anything good for the body; if anything, it's the exact opposite.
Besides, back then, the patient was being treated under Breuss's direct supervision—so if any complications popped up, he'd use his "magic" intuition, grab maybe a pinch of some herb, and suddenly perform a miracle to save the day. Nowadays, I think there's some clinic out there, but who's actually going to monitor a patient using this method here?
And once they've starved themselves and burned out, only to realize the cancer isn't budging, all they have left is to hand their soul over to God.
That's why I say everyone should make their own choice, but from what I can see, this stuff doesn't do squat for serious tumors. All those supplements like shiitake extracts, Immunomax, Biotta juices following the Breuss way, beta Glucan, or IP6... they barely help.
To me, it's just outdated, pseudo-medical nonsense that people cling to when they're desperate and grasping at straws.
cosmicviper76 cosmicviper76 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2008
#808 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/co..._staged_50.asp


Thanks
Jose Mendoza5 Jose Mendoza5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2008
#809 ·
A close friend of mine just received a diagnosis: intraductal papillary adenocarcinoma with invasion.
Could someone please explain to me exactly what kind of breast cancer this entails? I am trying to wrap my head around it.
Thank you!
Jamie Rivera78 Jamie Rivera78 Member
28 messages
joined Nov 2016
#810 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:Starving yourself just tanks your metabolism first. Then, your body starts cannibalizing protein from your muscles... yeah, even your heart muscle. Your hair falls out... your teeth get loose and start dropping. You end up with sores all over your skin and mouth. Eventually, you just kick the bucket.
I don't buy for a second that cutting out protein does anything good for the body; it’s the exact opposite.
Plus, back then, the patient was being treated under Breuss's direct supervision. If something went sideways, he'd use some magic intuition—maybe grab a pinch of some herb—and suddenly, boom, a miracle happens. Nowadays, there might be some clinic out there, but who's actually watching over a patient using this method here?
And once they're starved out and totally drained, only to realize the cancer isn't budging, they're basically left just handing their soul over to God.
That's why everyone should make their own choice, but from where I'm sitting, this stuff doesn't do squat for serious tumors. Even things like shiitake mushroom extracts, Immunomax, Biotta juices following the Breuss way, beta Glucan, or IP6... they barely help.
To me, it's just outdated quackery that people cling to when they're desperate.

You're just talking out of turn. The woman who did this didn't lose her hair, her teeth didn't go shaky, and she didn't break out in sores. She went through the whole cycle and healed herself. Believe it or not, I know that's exactly how it went down. On top of that, she says she's never felt better. Her skin was perfect, too. Sure, the metabolism slows down, but she got cured, and that's the bottom line. They'd only given her a year or two to live.
Ronald Parker7 Ronald Parker7 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2009
#811 ·
What does it actually mean when cancer is at stage 3?
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#812 ·
Melissa Morgan67 said:What does it actually mean when cancer is at stage 3?

If you head over to WebMD, you'll find everything laid out clearly, with specific breakdowns for every different type of cancer.
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#813 ·
Sandra Morales27 said:A friend of mine just got diagnosed with intraductal papillary adenocarcinoma with Invasion.
Can someone please explain what kind of breast cancer this actually is?
Thanks!

It's malignant.

http://216.47.173.10/index.php/Categ...Invasion(B7612)
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#814 ·
Melissa Morgan67 said:What does it actually mean when cancer is at stage 3?

Phase III
Basically, for most types of cancer, being at stage III means the tumor—or maybe a few of them—has grown quite a bit and is starting to mess with the surrounding tissue. It also means the nearby lymph nodes, which carry all that immune system fluid and white blood cells, have been hit too.
The symptoms you're feeling really depend on where the tumor is located.
Generally speaking, people feel pretty wiped out during this stage because those nearby lymph nodes are involved. Plus, since the tumor is bigger, there can be some pretty intense pressure and pain.
Treatment
Usually involves chemo and/or radiation.
Since the cancer cells have often started to wander outside the immediate area, both of these treatments are used to try and kill off the cells or at least shrink the mass down.
Prognosis
The survival rate for stage III depends heavily on exactly what kind of cancer we're talking about. For instance, the five-year survival rate for stage III colon cancer is around 64 percent. For cervical cancer, the average survival rate sits at about 70 percent. Pancreatic cancer, though—that’s a tougher one—tends to have a much lower survival rate because it's so frequently caught late in stages III or IV, with a five-year survival rate of just four percent.
Jose Mendoza5 Jose Mendoza5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2008
#815 ·
What kind of therapy is actually required? And more importantly, what sort of results can we realistically expect?
Is there any genuine chance for a full recovery?
velvetfalcon44 velvetfalcon44 Member
31 messages
joined Feb 2019
#816 ·
Sandra Morales27 said:What kind of treatment are we looking at? And what do the results usually look like?
Is there actually a chance for a full recovery?

So, I did a little digging online—and just a heads-up, I’m definitely not a doctor or an oncologist here:

For this specific type of cancer, they usually go with a lumpectomy or a segmental resection. Radiation therapy is also pretty standard. They’ll also perform a lymph node biopsy. Generally speaking, the prognosis for intracystic or intraductal papillary breast carcinoma is actually really good—we're talking survival rate approaching 100%.
That being said, you should absolutely get a professional opinion from an oncologist.

Link: http://www.ajronline.org/cgi/content...83/5/1516#REF3
Jesse Morgan3 Jesse Morgan3 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Apr 2020
#817 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:Starvation first slows down your metabolism. After that, the body starts breaking down muscle protein for fuel... and that includes your heart muscle. You start losing hair... teeth can get loose and fall out. You even develop sores on your skin and in your mouth.
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I don't hang out here much, but I actually had someone very close to me pass away from cancer despite following the Brezov method. From what I personally witnessed, there was absolutely no hair loss, no dental issues, and no skin sores. I honestly don't know why you're posting things that simply aren't true, especially since I see others here have already refuted your claims.

Sure, a person might lose weight or look weaker, but beyond those specific points, there just aren't any other visible symptoms.

...which people who are just grasping at straws tend to believe

And that is exactly the point—this usually involves patients who are already dealing with metastases...
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#818 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:Malignant

http://216.47.173.10/index.php/Categ...Invasion(B7612)

Good God, velvetfalcon44, if we're talking cancer, it's obviously not benign.
velvetfalcon44 said:Phase III
For most types of cancer, Phase III indicates that the tumor—or multiple tumors—has grown large enough to significantly invade the surrounding tissue. It also means the nearby lymph nodes, which house immune system fluids and white blood cells, have been impacted as well.
Symptoms vary depending on where the tumor is located.
Generally speaking, fatigue is common at this stage because the adjacent lymph nodes are involved. You might also deal with significant pressure or pain due to the increased size of the mass.
Treatment
Chemotherapy and/or radiation therapy.
Since cancer cells have often migrated beyond the local area, both treatments aim to either eliminate the cells or shrink the tumor's size.
Prognosis
The survival rate for Phase III depends heavily on the specific type of cancer diagnosed. For instance, the five-year survival rate for Phase III colon cancer is about 64 percent. For cervical cancer, the average survival rate is around 70 percent. Pancreatic cancer, however, has a much lower survival rate since it is frequently diagnosed in Phase III or IV, with a five-year survival rate of only four percent.

When you lay everything out this neatly, the standard courtesy is to actually cite the source you copied the text from.
Donna Chase Donna Chase Newcomer
1 message
joined Jul 2009
#819 ·
Angela Wright said:Goodness, velvetfalcon44, if we're talking about cancer, it certainly isn't benign.

When you lay everything out so clearly like this, the polite thing to do is usually to cite where you pulled the information from.

I have to agree; now I’m also wondering where velvetfalcon44 is getting all this data, and whether they consider how it feels for the person actually living through it to read such things. We are dealing with people who are in an incredibly vulnerable emotional state right now. Every situation is unique. My husband went through an adenocarcinoma of the lung that was surgically removed, and by the grace of God, he has been healthy and cancer-free for nearly three years now. It was honestly a blessing that he didn't know the specific technical details of his diagnosis at the time, because knowing that might have completely broken his spirit.
I truly believe the gentleman had nothing but good intentions here.
Best regards,
Ronald Parker7 Ronald Parker7 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2009
#820 ·
velvetfalcon44 said:Forecast
Survival rates for Phase III depend heavily on the specific type of cancer diagnosed. For Stage III colon cancer, the five-year survival rate is about 64%. Cervical cancer has an average survival rate of around 70%. Pancreatic cancer, however, has a much lower survival rate since it’s often caught in Phase III or IV, leaving the five-year survival rate at just four percent.

breast cancer
p.s. so you're saying there's no chance of surviving longer than 5 years?

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