Emergency: My friend is pregnant

Look, I just laid out what I think she should do—just like half of you guys did. And then I get dragged for it. Since when is it against the rules to say what I honestly believe is right?...

1. You don't get to tell anyone else what they "should" do... except maybe yourself.

2. Sure, you can say whatever you want, but it’s just bad form to go lecturing total strangers on what's right or wrong based on your own personal moral compass.

Carl Hernandez2 said:Here’s some weird logic for you:
Everyone needs to be properly disciplined and left on the curb. You all seem to be holding up pretty well.
So why act surprised when some lowlife takes advantage of you? Honestly, I find it hard to swallow the idea that ONLY the mother gets a say in things regarding the Child. There’s just as much DNA from the father in that kid as there is from the mother, which is why—despite what certain people think—men have just as much right to that child as you do.

👎...exactly what rock did you crawl out from under? It’s a lot easier to just dump the seed than it is to carry a baby for nine months and actually give BIRTH, but... whatever, it doesn't matter.

Anyway, how many kids do you actually have? Or are you just a basement theorist? Who is your mother still cooking meals and washing clothes for while you sit here lecturing us on how other women should behave? 😛

redgardener5 said:Why do you even care, Father David? 🙄
Her child, her body, her choice.
I'm sure she'll take advice from a guy whose first statement was basically asking if she was ready to spread her legs.
Statements like that are just exhausting. 👎

A woman's bodily autonomy ends where a child's life begins. A child isn't just an object; they are a person living their own life, which exists despite being contained within the mother's body. Life starts at conception, not birth—though many, particularly abortion advocates, seem to believe otherwise. In this scenario, the child's only fault is existing, having been created by accident or someone's oversight.

One more thing... Those who claim to truly love while destroying what needs love most—their unborn child—are lying. That version of "love" is nothing more than selfishness centered on personal interests like money or career. True love involves sacrifice, and there is no greater love in this world than that of a mother.

By the way, people often bring up the Holocaust, noting how 6 million Jews were murdered thanks to Hitler during WWII. But how many abortions have occurred since the dawn of time? How many lives have been lost because of their own mothers before they were even born? Far, far more.

Peter Myers29, Carl Hernandez2

Are you guys actually practicing Christians, or is it just for show?
A woman asks for advice, she thinks it over, she makes her choice, and then she uses her Vision www.nytimes.com
And if you fall into that first category, honestly, you could have made your point a little more subtle.
It always baffles me when people love to complain about decisions without ever offering a single solution.
Let’s play a little hypothetical game: if this woman actually listened to you, what on earth would you do next?
Come on, you young guys—who's going to marry her, put her through school, and help her raise that Child to be a decent human being? 😬 (I haven't exactly seen any of you volunteering)

Peter Myers29 said:A woman's body doesn't just end where a child's begins—it's an intersection. And a Child isn't some mere object; they are a human being living their own life, which exists fully even while within the mother's womb. Life commences at conception, not at birth—though many, particularly those advocating for abortion, seem to believe otherwise. In these instances, the only "fault" of the Child is simply existing—having been created by chance, or perhaps through someone else's lack of caution.

There is another point to consider... Those who claim to be capable of true love, yet destroy the very thing that requires the most devotion—their unborn Child—are being dishonest. Their version of "love" is nothing more than a selfish pursuit of self-interest—money, career advancement, and so on. Someone truly capable of loving is capable of sacrifice; there is no greater love in this world than that of a mother.

Furthermore, people often bring up the Holocaust—referring to how 6 million Jews were murdered by Hitler during World War II. But I ask you: how many abortions have been performed since the dawn of time? How many lives have been lost because of the choices of their own mothers before they ever had a chance to be born? Far, far more!...

Look, either move this to another thread or start your own—just don't dump these clichés here... THIS IS NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD...

Once you actually open your own thread, I will be happy to comment on what you wrote above.😎

They’re going to transfer at least $167 from their accounts to hers every single month—just doing the decent thing... they aren't exactly stingy when it counts

nimblewalker58 said:Peter Myers29, David

Are you practicing Christians, or is this just an evocative stance?
A woman asks for advice, a woman thinks, and a woman decides—just look at www.nytimes.com
And if you fall into that first category, well, you could have expressed that sentiment much more subtly.
It always strikes me as odd when people take issue with decisions without offering a viable solution.
Let us consider a hypothetical scenario: if a woman actually listens to you, what exactly is your next move?
Come on, young men—who is going to marry her, put her through college, and help her raise that Child to be a decent human being? 😬 (I haven't exactly seen any of you volunteering.)

That is true... though it isn't always what "smart" men have to say.
Perhaps abortion is murder, and while it might be nature's way for everything conceived to be born, nature didn't account for university tuition, expensive apartments, and tiny living spaces... did it?!

AND COMPARING THE HOLOCAUST TO THIS?!?! :flop

By that definition, are you suggesting that every human being is entirely predetermined solely by genetics?! As if years of growth, experience, emotions, and the actual LIFE lived until death don't matter at all:

nimblewalker58 said:Peter Myers29, David

Are you practicing Christians or just performing for the sake of it?
A woman asks for advice, a woman thinks, a woman decides.

Even if we are Christians, so what? Is it only those who oppose aborting unborn children in the name of some "higher" goals who qualify? The desire to preserve a life should only be an issue for those who find someone else's life insignificant.

nimblewalker58 said:In the case of the former, you could have phrased that more subtly.

How? Given how many people support abortion, probably by staying quiet.

nimblewalker58 said:It always puzzles me when people complain about decisions without offering a solution.

You want a solution? Here it is: If a child is such a burden that you don't want them, give them to someone who does. There are plenty of people out there who would love to have children but can't.

nimblewalker58 said:Come on, young men—who is going to marry her, put her through school, and help her raise that Child into a decent human being? 😬 (I haven't seen anyone volunteering.)

The man who fathered the child should marry her. He should prove he’s a man, acknowledge the Child, and help raise them. The problem is that the world is full of jerks (both men and women) who run from any kind of responsibility. To them, anything unplanned—like a pregnancy or a Child—is just a problem to be solved by any means necessary (even if it means killing the Child). People like that only care about living for the moment; tomorrow doesn't matter.

I told you all already: either start a new thread or move over to the religion section—this subforum is dedicated to *health*.

Peter Myers29 said:1. So what if we are Christians? Does that change things? Are the only people who care about not killing unborn children those who claim to follow some "higher purpose"? Honestly, wanting to preserve a life should only be an issue for people who view someone else's existence as disposable.
2. And how would they show it? Given how many women support abortion, they probably just stay silent.
3. You want a solution? Here’s one: If having a child feels like such a burden that you don't want them, then give that child to someone who actually does. There are plenty of people out there who desperately want children but can't have them.
4. Let the man who fathered the child marry her. Let him prove he's actually a man by stepping up, acknowledging the child, and helping them grow up. The real issue is that the world is crawling with lowlifes—men and women alike—who run from any kind of responsibility, treating anything unplanned, like a pregnancy or a baby, as a mere inconvenience to be dealt with by any means necessary (even if that means killing the child). For people like that, living only for the moment is everything, and what happens tomorrow just doesn't matter...

Regarding point 1), maybe try reading the Bible, because you won't find that argument in there.
As for point 2), Matthew Sullivan32 has a suggestion, but wouldn't it be better to actually get involved with foster homes or something? What did you really achieve with that statement, other than making the woman feel like absolute garbage? That doesn't seem particularly Christian, does it?
Regarding point 3), why don't you pick up a newspaper or, even better, go visit a shelter and actually talk to those kids? It would be much more constructive to offer to adopt if you aren't interested in having a girl, right?
And regarding point 4), you're calling me a hypocrite?😁 But you're the one who said all that yourself.

Good grief.

dustypilot2 said:Good grief.

Why on earth 😕
The kid is nine years old now and honestly, he’s just a wonderful little guy—though, looking back, we certainly had our hands full dealing with the aftermath of the war when I was a bit older and everything was still so chaotic...
but making these kinds of decisions? They are never easy.😉
The law really needs to provide options for both sides of the coin, because ultimately, these choices depend just as much on the individual as they do on their current financial, physical, and mental circumstances.

Peter Myers29 said:The issue is just that the world is crawling with jerks (both guys and girls) who run away from any kind of responsibility. Anything unplanned—like a pregnancy or a Child—is seen as this huge burden, and people think any means necessary are okay to fix that "problem" (even if it means killing the Child). These types only care about living for the moment, and what happens tomorrow doesn't mean squat to them...

Yeah, sure, let's just keep talking out of our asses.
And those claims about murder and comparing this to the Holocaust are just insane.
Maybe get a grip before you start rambling. You might’ve just accused some woman you actually know of being a murderer.😉

Peter Myers29 said:You want a solution? Here it is: If your child feels like nothing more than a burden to you, then hand them over to someone who actually wants them. There are plenty of people out there praying for a chance to be parents that you're simply throwing away.

Peter Myers29 said:She should just marry the guy who actually fathered her child.

I see how it is—you’re standing there acting like you've got all the perfect answers to everything.

Let them carry that nine-month-old child around, give birth to it, and then just leave it out to dry—dump it right on the street or toss it to a bunch of total strangers. 👍 So what? Honestly, it’s clearly better to just go ahead and have a child and then deal with the fallout later. That’s exactly how the religious crowd handles things, isn't it? 👍 Maybe we should just ship him off to some state-run facility where he can be abused instead? It’s funny how that kind of thing has become such a trendy movement among the religious crowds in America lately. 👍

Let her get married at eighteen, skip college entirely, and spend her days cooking, cleaning, and looking after her husband and child. 👍 Even better! Why not blast some music to entertain the neighbors while they're at it? Maybe he can even pick up a few more girls in the process. 👍

Man, honestly, it was absolutely perfect. I mean it—simply flawless! Now, someone get me a burger! 👏

P.S. Maybe try learning how to spell before you bother reaching out next time.

🙄 🙄 🙄

I heard it’s best to just leave an unwanted Child with some specific Brash type🙄

Yeah, and all this is happening in a facility where "specialists" supposedly trained specifically to handle children are in charge—you know, the local textile workers, shoe repair guys, florists, and bakers. People who, apparently, just adore kids. 😈 🙂

🤔 It’s honestly quite surprising—I was just thinking—that Mac Hummer didn't actually suggest sticking to a strict diet...

What bothers me most 🙂 is how pro-choice advocates justify women choosing abortion just for money or career advancement.
Marie Curie at 18 isn't even an adult in an emotional or mature sense... she’s just a Child who had the misfortune of getting pregnant (and I won't get into whether a condom broke or if she wasn't using one at all).
She has her whole life ahead of her, and now everything has to grind to a halt because of one impulsive moment.
According to the pro-choice worldview, her studies are over and her youth is gone... when she might have been the next Marie Curie, Milka Trnin, or some other scientist, artist, or perhaps even a future Nobel Prize Winner.
We've had enough of immature, clueless guys treating us women as nothing more than breeding machines 😈

Seriously, go back under your rock, you pathetic Brash loser, and take your miserable little ego with you... maybe you can find some lonely woman to settle down with by age 30 so you can stop subsidizing this forum and its HEALTH subforum!
And, oh yeah... reach out to Mac Hummer, let him sell you—sorry, let him swap—some potency pills that also help with your attitude... he's got all sorts of miracles 🙂

haha 😂 😂

edit: I mean, obviously, I'm talking about standard nutrition. 😁

Actually, the post right below this one isn't half bad either. 😁

😁
ugh, I think I finally processed what Mr. Bennett was saying about cellular nutrition... maybe? 😵