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Nirvana - With the Lights Out box set

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Participants Olivia Lopez41Daniel Bailey7Carol Wilson14Alex Ramirez12driftingeagle27wiredfalcon2Timothy Jones85Rebecca Chase87hollowseal33Amanda Palmer3Nicholas Perez33Harold King54Richard Lee33Frank Howard79Anthony Reyes5Brian Foster2boldscout72Robin BoothKevin Chavez3redcrane28Chris Barrett37Nancy Brooks54Jason Rogerscrimsonbear5 …
Nancy Brooks54 Nancy Brooks54 Member
25 messages
joined Feb 2003
#81 ·
To me, seeing all those flannel shirts in *My So-Called Life* was such a vibe—it really captured that whole era. I mean, back in '95, grunge was absolutely killing it!
Brian Foster2 Brian Foster2 Active Member
78 messages
joined Mar 2007
#82 ·
Chris Barrett37 said:It’s honestly fascinating how people end up idolizing someone just because they knelt down and took a life... and then they go ahead and turn that into some epic myth
while the ones who actually stood their ground and survived get treated like villains...

The whole concept of grunge 😁 is fine in theory, but it’s totally unachievable...
Besides, why on earth would I want to listen to the ramblings of people who have completely lost their grip on reality? No way...


And yet, here you are, loving songs about how fat someone's wallet is (you know, rap and gangsta stuff), or songs about people's messy personal lives (like Britney and her crew), or maybe even those tracks about Jack's weight and digestive issues—or perhaps you prefer tunes about smashing faces and breaking bones (Limp Bizkit! And of course, the fun-loving crew)... or maybe it's all about big assets and sexy moms (Beyoncé)... lalala

Grunge was achieved a long time ago, my friend, and it's still very much alive—you're just clearly out of the loop.

p.s. Try brushing up on your English and look up a grunge lyric or two; maybe then you'll realize that you're the one who's actually losing it by spouting such nonsense! 🙂
Chris Barrett37 Chris Barrett37 Member
14 messages
joined Sep 2007
#83 ·
Brian Foster2 said:You prefer listening to tracks about someone’s fat wallet (gangster rap, etc.), or someone’s drug problems (Britney and her crew), or maybe some guy’s digestive issues, or perhaps just songs about smashing faces and breaking bones (Limp Bizkit! and the usual crowd)... or maybe just songs about big breasts and sexy moms (Beyoncé)... lalala

The point was made ages ago, my friend, and it still stands—you're just the one who isn't paying attention.

p.s. Try reading some actual English and look up a grunge song; maybe then you'll realize you're the one losing it by talking such nonsense! 🙂

I listen to this, for example, dear 🙂

You say you don't like my kind
A better picture in your mind
No it don't matter what I say
I hear ya bitchin' when I walk away
I'll never be what ya want me ta be
You tell me I'm wrong but I disagree
I ain't got no apology


Just because I don't look like you, talk like you, think like you
Judge and jury, a hangman's nuice;
I see them in your eyes...

Good guys don't always wear white...
Good guys don't always wear white...

You judge a man who don't stand in line
Just because he ain't on your side
You know the man who wears those shoes
If you cut me don't I bleed like you?
Ya know I do...

I don't know watcha been told
Can't buy guts with a pot 'o gold
A rich man's poor if he got no soul

Rich man, poor man begger man can
All that shit don't mean a thing
Do you know which one's behing those eyes?
It's always a disguise...

Good guys don't always wear white...
Good guys don't always wear white...

Hey baby... what side you on?
You think you got it all fired out,
Where we belong
forget all about your dark dressed knight...
Day from night,
Wrong from right...

Good guys don't always wear white...
Good guys don't always wear white...

don't always wear...
don't always wear...
don't always wear...
don't always wear...
don't always wear...
White
Chris Barrett37 Chris Barrett37 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#84 ·
Nirvana - Territorial pissings

"Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another right now..."

vision 👍 feasibility 😕

That doesn't mean I don't love grunge for its vision.
(Hey, I listen to stuff that’s also more of a dream—like Imagine—but at least nobody is constantly talking about their sick minds)
driftingeagle27 driftingeagle27 Active Member
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joined Oct 2009
#85 ·
In case anyone was wondering whose tune was playing above—it’s nothing more or less than Bon Jovi.

np The Auteurs - Asta Spumante
Chris Barrett37 Chris Barrett37 Member
14 messages
joined Sep 2007
#86 ·
By the way, what’s the deal with that signature of yours?

Maybe if you popped a few too many popcorn kernels yourself, someone might start bowing down to you like that... Honestly, it’d be better to just name a musician who actually stood their ground through everything instead of looking for an escape in a bag of snacks...
Chris Barrett37 Chris Barrett37 Member
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#87 ·
driftingeagle27 said:In case anyone was wondering who wrote that lyric above—it’s (no more, no less than) Bon Jovi.

np The Auteurs - Asta Spumante

Exactly... they're a band that survived every single critic's attempt to tear them down while elevating everyone else...

A band that knew how to handle all the sabotage...
A band that didn't rely on cheap gimmicks...
A band that stood by Kurt when everyone else was falling apart...

A band that never chased the spotlight through scandals...
A band that protects their family and privacy from the media vultures that rip everyone else apart... honestly, that's probably why people hate them...
driftingeagle27 driftingeagle27 Active Member
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#88 ·
Chris Barrett37 said:Nirvana - Territorial Pissings

"Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another right now..."

The vision 👍 meets reality 😕

Doesn't mean I don't dig grunge because of the idealism
(look, I listen to stuff that’s also basically just a dream, like Imagine, but at least nobody's out here obsessing over their own twisted psyches)

Love is but a song we sing,
Hear a way we die.
You can make the mountains ring,
Hear the angels cry.
Tho' the dove is on the wing
You need not know why.

Hey, people now,
smile on your brother.
Let me see you get together,
Love one another right now.

Some will come and some will go,
We shall surely pass.
When the wind that left us here,
Returns for us at last.
We are but a moment's sunlight,
Fading on the grass.

Hey, people now,
smile on your brother.
Let me see you get together,
Love one another right now.

Hey, people now,
smile on your brother.
Let me see you get together,
Love one another right now.

If you hear the song I'm singing,
you will understand.
You hold the key to love and fear,
All in your trembling hand.
One key unlocks them both, you know,
It's at your command.


Chet Powers (Dina Valenti)

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Jason Rogers Jason Rogers Active Member
72 messages
joined Jan 2004
#89 ·
Cheers to Bon Jovi, being just as pure, hollow, and completely useless as ever, for another hundred years!
Brian Foster2 Brian Foster2 Active Member
78 messages
joined Mar 2007
#90 ·
Chris Barrett37 said:By the way, what’s the deal with that signature of yours?

Maybe go grab yourself a handful—or a bucketful—of popcorn and see if anyone starts bowing down to you like that! Why not mention an actual musician who actually dealt with their struggles head-on instead of just chasing a high?


Let me introduce you to a truly honorable artist!

Eddie Vedder — People even turned on him and Cobain because they released the album "Vs." (we're talking about Pearl Jam here) without filming a single music video! Meanwhile, Nirvana cranked out five or six videos for the Nevermind album. Of course, "Vs." still climbed straight to number one on the Billboard charts. Instead of turning to drugs—even though he lost a ton of friends and his mentor was found murdered (it was a dark time, really)—he used his earnings to buy instruments and donate to charity.
He writes songs with such soulful, melancholic themes, too, but man, maybe you just haven't caught the message in those lyrics yet.

P.S. Don't you dare try telling me you should be just like them and start using drugs...

Oh, and one more thing: damn you, Bon Jovi, damn you!
Chris Barrett37 Chris Barrett37 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#91 ·
Brian Foster2 said:Alright, let me suggest a truly decent musician for you!

Eddie Vedder — The guy actually called out Cobain because they released the "Vs." album (talking about Pearl Jam) without recording a single music video, whereas Nirvana filmed five or six videos for the Nevermind album. Of course, "Vs." still hit number one on the Billboard charts. Instead of chasing drugs—even after losing a ton of friends and having his old man murdered (so yeah, he was going through it)—he spent his earnings on instruments and donating to charity.
He writes songs with melancholic themes too, but man, maybe you just haven't grasped the message behind them.

p.s. don't go thinking I'm telling you to go out and get high too...

Bravo! I listen to Pearl Jam myself, though not all that much because I can't stand songs that leave you with absolutely zero hope... The talent is incredible and everything else is great, but that’s the only reason they aren't my thing...

Brian Foster2 said:oh yeah, and one more thing, damn you, Bon Jovi, damn you!

wow...
see, when I was saying I wasn't into Nirvana, I didn't come at you aggressive like this... Why don't you explain to me what exactly you dislike about Bon Jovi...
I'm pretty sure you're mostly just following the groupthink regarding Bon Jovi—just a few washed-up musicians who managed to become critics...
crimsonbear5 crimsonbear5 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2004
#92 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:I think a band like The Prodigy was much more influential back in the 90s.

I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry.🙂 🙂 🙂
The Prodigy being more influential than Nirvana? You aren't making any sense, Man. I am not even a die-hard Nirvana fanatic, but they were a massive band—way bigger than The Prodigy ever was. They aren't even in the same league. By the way, I think The Prodigy is alright too.
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
491 messages
joined Mar 2005
#93 ·
crimsonbear5 said:honestly, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this point.🙂 🙂 🙂
The Prodigy being more influential than Nirvana? Dude, you’re out of your mind. Look, I’m not some hardcore Nirvana fanatic or anything, but let's be real—Nirvana was massive. Way bigger than The Prodigy ever touched. You can't even put them in the same sentence. Don't get me wrong, The Prodigy is alright, but still.

Seems like you weren't really paying attention to the thread, so I'll let it slide. Just do me a favor and actually read what's going on before posting next time.
thanks.

Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black

p.s. where's Pritt to explain what that word means?
Brian Foster2 Brian Foster2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2007
#94 ·
Chris Barrett37 said:Bravo! I listen to Pearl Jam, but honestly, not all that much because I can't stand songs that leave you feeling totally hopeless... The talent is incredible and everything, but for that one reason alone, they just don't click with me...
Oh boy...
You know, when I was explaining why I wasn't a fan of Nirvana, I didn't attack anyone like this... Why don't you be a dear and explain exactly what it is you dislike about Bon Jovi...
I'm pretty sure you're mostly just following the collective opinion on Bon Jovi—just a handful of washed-up musicians who somehow managed to become critics...

Nobody is attacking you; that was just my statement regarding Bon Jovi.

But it really bothers me when people butt into things they clearly don't understand...
I'm not a Bon Jovi fan myself, but my ex-best friend absolutely adored them, so I've heard plenty of their stuff and was just making a comparison.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you!
Chris Barrett37 Chris Barrett37 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#95 ·
Brian Foster2 said:Nobody is attacking you; I was just making a statement about Bon Jovi.

But it bugs me when people butt into things they clearly don't know anything about...
I'm not a huge Bon Jovi fan, but my ex-best friend absolutely loved them, so I've heard enough to make the connection.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you!

Merry Christmas!

You didn't offend me, so don't worry about it. It’s not that deep...

I honestly don't see how that "statement" relates to Bon Jovi, nor do I really get what the statement even is, but whatever...

And the idea that I have no clue about what I'm chiming in on is interesting... I guess you assume that because I listen to Bon Jovi (among others), I don't listen to any grunge, so I can't weigh in...

Honestly, whatever. Everyone listens to whatever they want (just like me), and that's that.
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Gary Hall60 Gary Hall60 Member
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joined Jun 2005
#96 ·
Because of 'The lights out', all their stuff sounds boring now... this compilation is truly excellent!!
A Anonymous Veteran
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#97 ·
It was an honor to have lived through the era of Nirvana.

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