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Setting the rules for the Reddit F1 championship 2013

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Participants stormybadger8Matthew Young35ruggedfox28Christian Williams61William Bennett53Jason JamesTerry Carter2darkmarlin16Jason Campbell70Raymond Kelly2Edward Howard2redheron12mistybear87Douglas Patel32Tyler Bennett5Ethan Jones5Sean Smith5cosmicridge5Alex Gomez4ruggedhawk20shadowstag10Nathan Jones98swifttiger75shadowhawk24
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
306 messages
joined Aug 2008
#361 ·
Terry Carter2 said:Just a reminder!

Are you being serious right now? Honestly—look around. Everyone is losing their minds over the championship, no matter how much you try to stay composed... just let it go.🤷
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
132 messages
joined May 2022
#362 ·
Terry Carter2 said:Just a reminder!

I think it’s time to start working on a Plan B...

It looks like the regulars around here have zero interest in voting. Honestly, you've only got three real choices left: open this up to everyone who actually cares, scrap the Survey and just run the championship yourself, or just call the whole thing off. Those are pretty much your only options at this point, unfortunately.🤷

The Survey has been live for two weeks now and basically only Sep is participating. This whole thing is becoming pointless..
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#363 ·
Ethan Jones5 said:I think it’s time to start working on a Plan B...

It looks like the regulars around here have zero interest in voting. Honestly, you've only got three real choices left: open this up to everyone who actually cares, scrap the Survey and just run the championship yourself, or just call the whole thing off. Those are pretty much your only options at this point, unfortunately.🤷

The Survey has been live for two weeks now and basically only Sep is participating. This whole thing is becoming pointless..

As long as I’m leading the count, everything is working exactly as intended!
😁
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
1K messages
joined Nov 2015
#364 ·
Look, I’m telling you for the last time, I absolutely hate this bolded text, so just go ahead and fix it already. ☕
Sean Smith5 Sean Smith5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Sep 2012
#365 ·
Here’s my reasoning for voting this way... Terry Carter2 has been doing a solid job leading the championship so far, providing results both quickly and accurately. As for the rules, I feel they've successfully navigated plenty of crises 😁 and we've spent far too much effort refining them to just toss them aside now. Plus, I really don't feel like memorizing a whole new set of 😬..
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#366 ·
Sean Smith5 said:Here’s my reasoning for voting this way... Terry Carter2 has been doing a solid job leading the championship so far, providing results both quickly and accurately. As for the rules, I feel they've successfully navigated plenty of crises 😁 and we've spent far too much effort refining them to just toss them aside now. Plus, I really don't feel like memorizing a whole new set of 😬..

That is precisely why I included this option—to ensure we don't end up acting as if everything prior was a failure and that changes are absolutely mandatory.
😁
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#367 ·
Come on, move it! Let's see some real effort here! Get those votes in! It’s not too late yet!
We’re closing the polls tomorrow!
😁

😁
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
1K messages
joined Nov 2015
#368 ·
So, looks like we're sticking with the old rules then 👋
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#369 ·
Yeah, let's stick with the current set. 👍

Alright, regarding the points system and the core mechanics of how things run, it’s probably acceptable enough. That said, I really hope there will be room to fine-tune the other regulations—to simplify them, clean them up, and provide more clarity. We need to prevent those same messy complications we seem to run into every single year...
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Jan 2018
#370 ·
Well, I can finally breathe a sigh of relief.
The old rules are staying put. We’re just going to polish them up a bit so there isn't any more bickering over the specifics.
If I don't feel a sense of relief now, I never will.
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#371 ·
I’ve gone ahead and stripped out all the uncounted votes, so here is the reality of the situation.
To prevent everyone from wasting their breath debating a tie-breaker for a winner that shouldn't be in question, I am reverting back to the original ruleset. By doing this, those rules automatically become the official standard for next season.
If you guys are on board with that, we can start fine-tuning the old framework.
😁
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#372 ·
Well, I’m honestly torn between offering my congratulations or my deepest condolences regarding the host selection, but since you actually showed up, I’ll start with this: congrats, buddy! 😁

I would suggest that everyone interested takes a moment to propose potential improvements to our current rules. If we can refine things now, we might face fewer headaches and see much more competitive racing next year.

I am also hoping that Ethan Jones5, Douglas Patel32, and Shule will join us for the championship, given that they have already demonstrated their interest by participating in this discussion. 🙏
Of course, that goes for any other newcomers I might have inadvertently overlooked.
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#373 ·
Thanks for the vote of confidence... though my contract still hasn't been officially ratified.

Regarding the rules, the first thing that comes to mind is that I am absolutely against the championship director handling the Pole position trophy.
I don't have an issue managing the championship's pole positions, but trying to mash that together with two separate tournaments where not everyone is participating doesn't make much sense to me—not to mention it’s a logistical headache.
Basically, I will manage the championship's pole positions, and if anyone else wants to take charge of the Trophy, they are more than welcome to step up.
😁
Douglas Patel32 Douglas Patel32 Member
14 messages
joined Aug 2012
#374 ·
Huge congratulations to my colleague Terry Carter2 on taking the win! I wish him nothing but the best as he continues to steer the Formula 1 Championship through its next stages.
I want to extend my sincere thanks to everyone who took the time to cast their vote, and a particularly heartfelt thank you to my friend Ross for placing his trust in me.
To all of you out there, I wish you the very best of luck, and I look forward to our paths crossing again during the next opportunity.
Warm regards to you all. 🙂
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#375 ·
Alright, now that we've officially voted in a moderator and kept the existing rules intact, it’s high time we start laying down the groundwork. We need to define our parameters so everyone is actually prepared to dive into the Formula 1 2013 season.
If you have any suggestions at all, lay them out on the table so we can see what kind of framework we can build here.
😁
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#376 ·
Well, the public has spoken, and we shall proceed under the existing rules. 👍
I would like to propose a few adjustments. To be clear, I am not suggesting any changes to the scoring system itself; rather, I see this as a streamlining of our current regulations to address excessive complexity, ambiguity, and the various issues that have led to frequent disputes. These modifications are derived partly from my previous rule proposal and partly from entirely new ideas. Below, I have copied the full set of current regulations alongside my proposed amendments, where items I believe should be removed are marked in red, and my new (or revised) proposals are **bolded**.
For those who may find it difficult to view the attached documents, I will list the most significant proposed changes here:
- All predictions must be submitted by the scheduled start of Free Practice 3.
- Anyone without a valid prediction (whether a new entry or an existing one) will not participate in that round, and no excuses regarding the failure to submit will be entertained.
- In the event of a dispute, the Commissioner holds the final word. This means moderators should not be pulled into the fray of rule interpretation or dispute resolution. Players retain the right to change the Commissioner at any time, but there can be no retroactive overturning of decisions once the "appeals window" has closed.

1. The Formula 1 Championship is a competition featuring an unlimited number of participants, both individuals and teams, which remain open throughout the entire season.
- To be considered a member of a team, a player must post a formal declaration stating which team they are representing.
- Joining an existing team is not permitted without the consent of at least one returning member from that team's previous season.
- Competition is conducted in pairs, with individual and team standings calculated separately.
- Players who do not join a team do not participate in the team portion of the championship.
- A participant is defined as a competitor who registers for the championship and submits their prediction within the designated timeframe.
Official results and standings are published by the Commissioner, and the moderator will post them on the first page of this thread, at which point they are considered final.
Competitors must submit their predictions, registrations, and other entries exclusively within this specific thread; any entries made in other threads will be deemed invalid.


1. The Championship is a sub-forum game involving predictions for Formula 1 race results. The number of participants is unlimited, and access is open to all interested forum members. Participation begins upon the submission of a prediction for a specific F1 season and concludes at the end of that F1 season or upon an explicit statement from the participant regarding their withdrawal.
2. The Championship is an individual pursuit, though it can function as a team game if two or more participants declare their intention to compete as a team within the main thread. Team participation commences upon the announcement of the partnership and ends when either player leaves the team or exits the competition. Team points are calculated by summing the individual championship points earned by team members during their period of joint participation. Should a member leave a team, their accumulated championship points remain with the team. Regarding team names, priority is given to the participant who first registers the name. If a name was used in previous championships, priority belongs to the player who has maintained uninterrupted membership with that team name for the longest duration.
3. Participants may only compete using one forum identity at any given time. Consequently, it is prohibited to have valid predictions active under more than one identity simultaneously.


4. The Championship is played by having the competitor post their predicted order of all drivers on the grid within the designated deadline, along with two additional picks: the pole position winner and the driver who achieves the fastest lap. Competitors may post their predictions immediately after the previous deadline closes, and no later than (Saturday at 3:00 AM, during the weekend leading up to the next race. The scheduled start time for the three free practice sessions has been set.That deadline applies to every single race throughout the season. Competitors are free to tweak their existing predictions or submit entirely new ones as many times as they like, provided they get everything finalized before that cutoff hits.

The scoring system is structured as follows:
The primary points for each race are distributed according to the current F1 scoring system: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1. These are awarded to the top ten finishers who have accumulated the highest number of secondary points during the race.
The points system used for awarding standings at every race follows this structure:
Groups 1 through 3 – 5 points plus 1 extra.
Group 4-10 – 3 points + 1 bonus
Group 11-16 – 2 points + 2
Group 17-24 – 1 point + 2
DNF Group – 3 points + 1 bonus
DNQ Group - 3 points
Pole position and fastest lap—that’s an extra four points plus two more.

Points are distributed according to the specific categories outlined in Section 3 of the Rulebook. Regarding additional points awarded for correct placements, these are divided into two distinct groups:
Group 1: 1st–3rd, 4th–10th, and DNF – 1 point awarded for each finishing position.
Group 2: 11-16, 17-24, PP+FL – 2 points awarded for pole position.
Regarding the extra points (2 total) for the PP+FL group: these are only awarded if a participant correctly identifies both drivers within that group. In the standings, this will be recorded as one point per driver, effectively granting one correct finishing position for each, totaling two points for the group. As for the DNF group, an extra point is awarded based on the specific order of retirements as officially released by the FIA. To claim this, a participant would need to list the drivers in reverse order—for example, the first driver to drop out should be listed last in their prediction, and so on.

The criteria for determining the race rankings are as follows:
Is it not more logical to conclude that the superior driver is the one who manages to accumulate a higher number of secondary points?
In the event that we end up with a tie following step A, the deciding factor should be the player who secured more pole position trophies.
In the event that we see a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be the player who secured a higher number of additional points.
In the event that we see a tie following step C, the tiebreaker will be determined by the player who holds the higher cumulative point total from all successfully predicted pole positions within their respective groups.
In the event of a tie following step D, the deciding factor should be the player who secured more victories within the higher-stakes groups.
f) In the event of a tie following step e), the tiebreaker will favor the driver with the lower sum when calculating the differences between their actual finishing position and their predicted position in the overall standings. Should this occur, all drivers will be evaluated based on the official order established by the FIA and the competitors.
In the event of a tie following step f), the advantage goes to the player who submitted their updated Joker prediction first. If neither party has submitted a new prediction, the edge goes to whoever turned in their original one earliest. Furthermore, should one player fail to submit an updated prediction entirely, their opponent is automatically deemed the winner.

The criteria used to determine the final individual standings are as follows:
Is it even worth debating? A driver who racks up more main championship points is clearly the superior competitor.
In the event that we end up with a tie following the first criteria, wouldn't it be more logical to favor the driver with the higher number of wins?
In the event that we end up with a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be the driver who holds the higher number of tie-breaking points.
d) In the event of a tie following step c), the deciding factor should be the competitor who holds the advantage in their head-to-head matchup.
In the event that we end up with a tie following step D, the deciding factor would be the driver with the higher number of other finishes—specifically, more second-place results, third-place results, and so on.

The criteria used to determine the final standings for the team championship are as follows:
Is it not more logical to conclude that the superior team is simply the one that secures a higher number of primary points?
In the event that we end up with a tie following the first scenario, wouldn't it make more sense to favor the team with the higher number of wins?
In the event that we end up with a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be whichever team holds the higher number of tie-breaker points.
d) In the event that we see a tie following step c), the tiebreaker should favor the team with the higher number of other placements—specifically looking at second-place finishes, then third-place finishes, and so on.

August 2nd. Criteria for determining the overall Pole position trophy standings:
Is it even worth debating? A driver who consistently secures more pole positions is clearly the superior competitor.
In the event that we end up with a tie following the first scenario, wouldn't it be more logical to favor the driver who participated in fewer races?
In the event that we reach a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be determined by which player achieved a higher number of maximumly hit positions within a single round across any of the competitions.
d) In the event of a tie following step c), the edge goes to the player who achieved a higher cumulative sum of exact finishing positions throughout the Formula 1 Championship.


(I believe this section should simply be removed. If the Pole position trophy is to continue being awarded, it warrants its own specific set of regulations and a dedicated thread outside of the main championship, given that it now encompasses positions from the tournament as well.)

9. Should an additional team join the Formula 1 Championship either before or during the season, increasing the total driver count to 26, the final two groups will be adjusted to 11-17 and 18-26. Conversely, if a team exits Formula 1 before or during the season, reducing the driver count to 22, the final two groups will become 11-16 and 17-22. Any changes to scoring groups under this article take effect automatically without prior notice at the moment the FIA or a team officially announces their entry or withdrawal from one or all Formula 1 races. This also applies if the decision is announced before free practice and the team fails to appear for Friday's sessions. This article and its subsequent changes will not be triggered if a team or driver fails to appear for practice, qualifying, or the race due to other unforeseen circumstances (such as a shortage of spare parts, driver injuries, etc.).

9. If there is a change in the number of participating teams during the season, only the number of teams in the final group will be modified within the championship. For example, instead of the group covering positions 18-24, it would cover 18-22 or 18-26.

10. If a competitor fails to submit a new prediction, or submits it on Saturday at 03:01 or any other time after the specified deadline, the "Joker" prediction will be activated. To clarify, players are required to submit a new prediction for every race; however, they are granted 3 "Jokers" per season. These Jokers activate automatically for any race where a new prediction is not submitted, and the player's last official prediction will be credited for those races. Once all three "Jokers" have been utilized (it is understood that they have withdrawn from the competition, resulting in disqualification from every subsequent race) and no points will be calculated for them; in such a case, they must submit a new prediction if they wish to resume competing.
If a competitor fails to submit a new prediction for two consecutive races, their teammate may choose to expel them from their team. (consequently, such a competitor joins the newly formed "Expelled" team, unless they state otherwise.)
William Bennett53 William Bennett53 Regular
491 messages
joined Sep 2016
#377 ·
9. Participants must submit their predictions using the specific username they used to register for the competition, unless an administrator has modified it. Consequently, any participant facing a ban is ineligible to participate in the round during which the ban is active. This rule applies to participants whose ban lasts at least until the deadline for submitting predictions for that specific round, provided they haven't already submitted a new prediction before being banned; if a new prediction was submitted prior to the ban, it will be honored regardless. Furthermore, if a banned participant holds unused "Joker predictions" and fails to submit a prediction for the round in which they are banned, the "Joker prediction" will still be applied to them just as it would for any other participant. (In my view, this point is entirely redundant, as all of this is more clearly defined under point three of these proposed amendments)

9.1. Participants who are restricted from accessing the F1 subforum may still participate by posting their prediction in a general discussion thread within that subforum, then sending a link to that post via private message to their teammate. The teammate can then post the link to that prediction in this main thread. Every such prediction will be recognized, and both individual and team points will be calculated just as they would for any other player. (I believe this should be deleted. If you send a prediction, you play; if you don't, you don't. Whether someone is banned, has their internet cut off due to an unpaid bill, or is dealing with a website error 503 during the submission window is their own business, and I don't think we need to list specific excuses and invent workarounds for them)

10. Participants are permitted to switch teams an unlimited number of times. In the event of a transfer, a participant does not carry over any team points earned with their previous team, though their individual points remain intact. The same logic applies to players who are removed from a team. Team points begin accumulating from the moment a new team is formed; changing a team's name has no impact on the scoring. Each team is entitled to two name changes during the season, whereas names can be changed an unlimited number of times before the season begins.
(The explanation regarding team points is handled more simply in point 2. Additionally, I see no reason to limit team name changes; it only takes up space in the rulebook, and it's a rare occurrence anyway. Therefore, I suggest deleting this section.)

11. If a participant includes a driver in their prediction who does not appear in the race—meaning they are not listed in the official FIA results—no points will be awarded for that driver. Furthermore, a participant will not receive points for drivers they fail to include in their ranking, regardless of how logical or illogical it seems that a specific driver was omitted. Results are calculated based on the specific positions assigned to the drivers by the participant; if there is a clerical error in the numbering, the ranking will be treated strictly according to the positions listed. If certain positions are left blank, no points will be awarded for them. Should a participant list the same position number or driver multiple times, no points will be awarded for any of those instances. If a participant lists more drivers than are scheduled to start the race under normal circumstances, no points will be granted for the excess drivers or positions. Drivers for whom no position is specified will be treated as a DNF; however, if the entire ranking is submitted without position numbers, it will be treated as a ranking without DNFs.

11. If a participant omits a driver from their prediction, no points will be awarded for them. If a driver is listed twice, points can only be awarded once.
If a participant names a driver who does not compete, or a driver who cannot be reasonably identified (for example, writing "Nico" when it is unclear whether they mean Hulkenberg or Rosberg), no points will be awarded.
Drivers are scored according to the numerical order provided in the prediction. Accordingly, errors in the numerical sequence are handled as follows:
- A missing rank number will be treated as a DNF.
- In cases of duplicate rank numbers (for example, listing two drivers at position No. 11), only the first one listed counts; the second is ignored.


12. Any blatant and intentional copying of someone else's prediction—regardless of whether a "corrected" version is submitted later—will be viewed as an attempt to incite general chaos within the competition. Such actions will be penalized with an automatic disqualification lasting two races or more. This rule specifically targets the deliberate copy-pasting of another user's picks or submitting predictions that are nearly identical, sharing at least a 75% match in driver positioning.

12. Copying predictions is investigated and penalized only upon a formal complaint from the aggrieved player (which must be submitted publicly to the commissioner within the relevant thread). Copying is defined as placing more than 75% of the drivers (rounded up to the nearest whole number) in the exact same positions as a prediction already posted for that race (note that older predictions used as Jokers do not count toward this total). The penalty for copying a prediction is 5 secondary points.

13. Competition results are calculated based on the data released by the FIA immediately following the conclusion of a race via the television broadcast, or the initial uncorrected results posted on the official website. Any subsequent corrections made by the FIA will not be taken into account. When determining driver retirements, we also rely on those initial FIA results, where it is explicitly stated which drivers retired; if they are listed as DNF, NC, or Ret in the official standings, they will be accounted for accordingly. Any other designation will not be considered a DNF. Otherwise, per standard FIA regulations, a driver is considered to have retired if they complete less than 90% of the race distance, with the race duration determined by whatever number of laps the FIA dictates through its standard or extraordinary rulings.
Drivers who fail to qualify during qualifying sessions and do not participate in the race will be counted as DNQ only if they do not start the race. However, if they fail to qualify but the FIA grants them permission to compete, they will not receive points if they were marked as DNQ in the prediction; instead, they will be treated like any other driver who qualified regularly, meaning they retain the possibility of finishing in scoring positions or failing to finish (DNF).

14. Should a dispute arise during the competition that is not covered by the specific points in these Rules, the decision regarding its resolution will fall to the competition commissioner. These Rules take effect upon their publication in the Championship thread designated for rules and results, and they may be modified through special amendments only if it is subsequently proven necessary for the better functioning of the competition.

15. If the moderators of this sub-forum believe that the commissioner has made an improper decision regarding a dispute, a case of copying, or an amendment to the rules, they reserve the right to overturn it. In such instances, all moderators of the F1 sub-forum will vote, and the decision will be reached by a majority vote.


14. Race results are tallied and published by the commissioner. Should the commissioner fail to do so within 7 days of a race's conclusion, a replacement commissioner will be chosen by a majority vote of the active participants within the thread, provided at least 24 hours have passed. Naturally, the selected individual only assumes the role if they consent to it.
15. Participants may vote to remove the commissioner at any time, provided they can secure the support of half of all participants for that specific championship season.
16. Once the results for a round are published, participants have a 24-hour window to identify any calculation errors and report them within the thread. Once this period expires, the results are final and cannot be revised under any circumstances.
17. In the event of a dispute over results, the commissioner will issue a ruling. Twenty-four hours after that decision is rendered, it becomes final and cannot be further reviewed or contested by anyone.
18. In the event of any disputes regarding the rules of play, the presiding official will issue a ruling. This decision will be recorded in a general format within the rulebook, serving as a precedent for all future instances involving similar circumstances.
19. When faced with ambiguous situations, the official is encouraged to exercise common sense. They are not strictly obligated to follow the letter of the law if it becomes evident that a specific regulation is ill-suited for the unique situation at hand.
20. Participants may request an amendment to any individual rule at any time, provided they can secure the support of at least half of all participants for the current championship season. It should be noted that this process does not allow for retroactive rule changes.
21. Sub-forum moderators, acting as local authorities, may intervene in gameplay, though strictly within their standard moderator duties—specifically to prevent trolling, spamming, or other forms of disruptive behavior. However, they lack the authority to alter the competition rules beyond what is explicitly permitted by this rulebook.
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
306 messages
joined Aug 2008
#378 ·
This championship isn't some official production—after all, there's no major organization backing it. It’s really just a game played by us users. Please, could you look into updating the rules?
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
206 messages
joined Mar 2003
#379 ·
William Bennett53 said:Well, the public has spoken, and we shall proceed under the existing rules. 👍
I would like to propose a few adjustments. To be clear, I am not suggesting any changes to the scoring system itself; rather, I see this as a streamlining of our current regulations to address excessive complexity, ambiguity, and the various issues that have led to frequent disputes. These modifications are derived partly from my previous rule proposal and partly from entirely new ideas. Below, I have copied the full set of current regulations alongside my proposed amendments, where items I believe should be removed are marked in red, and my new (or revised) proposals are **bolded**.
For those who may find it difficult to view the attached documents, I will list the most significant proposed changes here:
- All predictions must be submitted by the scheduled start of Free Practice 3.
- Anyone without a valid prediction (whether a new entry or an existing one) will not participate in that round, and no excuses regarding the failure to submit will be entertained.
- In the event of a dispute, the Commissioner holds the final word. This means moderators should not be pulled into the fray of rule interpretation or dispute resolution. Players retain the right to change the Commissioner at any time, but there can be no retroactive overturning of decisions once the "appeals window" has closed.

1. The Formula 1 Championship is a competition featuring an unlimited number of participants, both individuals and teams, which remain open throughout the entire season.
- To be considered a member of a team, a player must post a formal declaration stating which team they are representing.
- Joining an existing team is not permitted without the consent of at least one returning member from that team's previous season.
- Competition is conducted in pairs, with individual and team standings calculated separately.
- Players who do not join a team do not participate in the team portion of the championship.
- A participant is defined as a competitor who registers for the championship and submits their prediction within the designated timeframe.
Official results and standings are published by the Commissioner, and the moderator will post them on the first page of this thread, at which point they are considered final.
Competitors must submit their predictions, registrations, and other entries exclusively within this specific thread; any entries made in other threads will be deemed invalid.


1. The Championship is a sub-forum game involving predictions for Formula 1 race results. The number of participants is unlimited, and access is open to all interested forum members. Participation begins upon the submission of a prediction for a specific F1 season and concludes at the end of that F1 season or upon an explicit statement from the participant regarding their withdrawal.
2. The Championship is an individual pursuit, though it can function as a team game if two or more participants declare their intention to compete as a team within the main thread. Team participation commences upon the announcement of the partnership and ends when either player leaves the team or exits the competition. Team points are calculated by summing the individual championship points earned by team members during their period of joint participation. Should a member leave a team, their accumulated championship points remain with the team. Regarding team names, priority is given to the participant who first registers the name. If a name was used in previous championships, priority belongs to the player who has maintained uninterrupted membership with that team name for the longest duration.
3. Participants may only compete using one forum identity at any given time. Consequently, it is prohibited to have valid predictions active under more than one identity simultaneously.


4. The Championship is played by having the competitor post their predicted order of all drivers on the grid within the designated deadline, along with two additional picks: the pole position winner and the driver who achieves the fastest lap. Competitors may post their predictions immediately after the previous deadline closes, and no later than (Saturday at 3:00 AM, during the weekend leading up to the next race. The scheduled start time for the three free practice sessions has been set.That deadline applies to every single race throughout the season. Competitors are free to tweak their existing predictions or submit entirely new ones as many times as they like, provided they get everything finalized before that cutoff hits.

The scoring system is structured as follows:
The primary points for each race are distributed according to the current F1 scoring system: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1. These are awarded to the top ten finishers who have accumulated the highest number of secondary points during the race.
The points system used for awarding standings at every race follows this structure:
Groups 1 through 3 – 5 points plus 1 extra.
Group 4-10 – 3 points + 1 bonus
Group 11-16 – 2 points + 2
Group 17-24 – 1 point + 2
DNF Group – 3 points + 1 bonus
DNQ Group - 3 points
Pole position and fastest lap—that’s an extra four points plus two more.

Points are distributed according to the specific categories outlined in Section 3 of the Rulebook. Regarding additional points awarded for correct placements, these are divided into two distinct groups:
Group 1: 1st–3rd, 4th–10th, and DNF – 1 point awarded for each finishing position.
Group 2: 11-16, 17-24, PP+FL – 2 points awarded for pole position.
Regarding the extra points (2 total) for the PP+FL group: these are only awarded if a participant correctly identifies both drivers within that group. In the standings, this will be recorded as one point per driver, effectively granting one correct finishing position for each, totaling two points for the group. As for the DNF group, an extra point is awarded based on the specific order of retirements as officially released by the FIA. To claim this, a participant would need to list the drivers in reverse order—for example, the first driver to drop out should be listed last in their prediction, and so on.

The criteria for determining the race rankings are as follows:
Is it not more logical to conclude that the superior driver is the one who manages to accumulate a higher number of secondary points?
In the event that we end up with a tie following step A, the deciding factor should be the player who secured more pole position trophies.
In the event that we see a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be the player who secured a higher number of additional points.
In the event that we see a tie following step C, the tiebreaker will be determined by the player who holds the higher cumulative point total from all successfully predicted pole positions within their respective groups.
In the event of a tie following step D, the deciding factor should be the player who secured more victories within the higher-stakes groups.
f) In the event of a tie following step e), the tiebreaker will favor the driver with the lower sum when calculating the differences between their actual finishing position and their predicted position in the overall standings. Should this occur, all drivers will be evaluated based on the official order established by the FIA and the competitors.
In the event of a tie following step f), the advantage goes to the player who submitted their updated Joker prediction first. If neither party has submitted a new prediction, the edge goes to whoever turned in their original one earliest. Furthermore, should one player fail to submit an updated prediction entirely, their opponent is automatically deemed the winner.

The criteria used to determine the final individual standings are as follows:
Is it even worth debating? A driver who racks up more main championship points is clearly the superior competitor.
In the event that we end up with a tie following the first criteria, wouldn't it be more logical to favor the driver with the higher number of wins?
In the event that we end up with a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be the driver who holds the higher number of tie-breaking points.
d) In the event of a tie following step c), the deciding factor should be the competitor who holds the advantage in their head-to-head matchup.
In the event that we end up with a tie following step D, the deciding factor would be the driver with the higher number of other finishes—specifically, more second-place results, third-place results, and so on.

The criteria used to determine the final standings for the team championship are as follows:
Is it not more logical to conclude that the superior team is simply the one that secures a higher number of primary points?
In the event that we end up with a tie following the first scenario, wouldn't it make more sense to favor the team with the higher number of wins?
In the event that we end up with a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be whichever team holds the higher number of tie-breaker points.
d) In the event that we see a tie following step c), the tiebreaker should favor the team with the higher number of other placements—specifically looking at second-place finishes, then third-place finishes, and so on.

August 2nd. Criteria for determining the overall Pole position trophy standings:
Is it even worth debating? A driver who consistently secures more pole positions is clearly the superior competitor.
In the event that we end up with a tie following the first scenario, wouldn't it be more logical to favor the driver who participated in fewer races?
In the event that we reach a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be determined by which player achieved a higher number of maximumly hit positions within a single round across any of the competitions.
d) In the event of a tie following step c), the edge goes to the player who achieved a higher cumulative sum of exact finishing positions throughout the Formula 1 Championship.


(I believe this section should simply be removed. If the Pole position trophy is to continue being awarded, it warrants its own specific set of regulations and a dedicated thread outside of the main championship, given that it now encompasses positions from the tournament as well.)

9. Should an additional team join the Formula 1 Championship either before or during the season, increasing the total driver count to 26, the final two groups will be adjusted to 11-17 and 18-26. Conversely, if a team exits Formula 1 before or during the season, reducing the driver count to 22, the final two groups will become 11-16 and 17-22. Any changes to scoring groups under this article take effect automatically without prior notice at the moment the FIA or a team officially announces their entry or withdrawal from one or all Formula 1 races. This also applies if the decision is announced before free practice and the team fails to appear for Friday's sessions. This article and its subsequent changes will not be triggered if a team or driver fails to appear for practice, qualifying, or the race due to other unforeseen circumstances (such as a shortage of spare parts, driver injuries, etc.).

9. If there is a change in the number of participating teams during the season, only the number of teams in the final group will be modified within the championship. For example, instead of the group covering positions 18-24, it would cover 18-22 or 18-26.

10. If a competitor fails to submit a new prediction, or submits it on Saturday at 03:01 or any other time after the specified deadline, the "Joker" prediction will be activated. To clarify, players are required to submit a new prediction for every race; however, they are granted 3 "Jokers" per season. These Jokers activate automatically for any race where a new prediction is not submitted, and the player's last official prediction will be credited for those races. Once all three "Jokers" have been utilized (it is understood that they have withdrawn from the competition, resulting in disqualification from every subsequent race) and no points will be calculated for them; in such a case, they must submit a new prediction if they wish to resume competing.
If a competitor fails to submit a new prediction for two consecutive races, their teammate may choose to expel them from their team. (consequently, such a competitor joins the newly formed "Expelled" team, unless they state otherwise.)

I find myself agreeing with a good chunk of that!
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Honestly, I can't be bothered to sit through all that reading...
Well, looks like you guys voted and made your choice... congrats to the new Moderator 😁

If I’d actually had the chance to vote, I would've gone with Matthew Young35. His rules were way more "to the point" and actually easy to digest 😬

I just don't have the energy for this sausage right now. Plus, at first glance, this feels more like Anna Karenina than some set of forum competition rules...🤣
If I find the time and the willpower, maybe I'll give them a read and share my thoughts... but for now, it's just way too long for me😬

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