Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Christian Jones said:If the whole crowd thinks like you, then we’re honestly screwed. Why are you mixing internal drama with something where it's all or nothing for us? If we play that game, everyone can just start digging up old grudges from their own little drawers. Just look at the other fans—if you've even bothered to listen—how they used to roar against the owner, US Soccer, UEFA, and the rest of them...

Look, you guys showed solidarity toward the Los Angeles Dodgers and their supporters plenty of times before—not that I need to list our own struggles against various sellouts in the past. We stood up and sent messages of support after the police opened fire, only to find out some kid was commenting about how much they hate me. But whatever—we still show up when it matters, whether it's someone from your side or someone else's. You have my 300% support in this fight, but don't expect me to shut up about the owner—you won't, mostly because you're being hypocritical. I’m not digging through history here, but after those attacks on people from the Hero City, I’ll say it again and again: it wasn't a coincidence that happened just a week before that mess. Maybe I'm tripping and someone won't agree with me, but if one of my people were insulted, I'd throw it back in their face. As for the collapse, I won't even comment—it isn't worth the breath. I hope you guys handle it, but you know deep down—even if you won't admit it—that you lost the battle in your own damn city, not because of that person; he's a different story entirely. Good luck.

Melissa Reyes45 said:Look, you guys were all about showing solidarity with the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Black Knights plenty of times before... I won't even start listing our battles against all those corrupt suits in the past. We raise our voices to support the fans after the cops open fire, only to find out some little punk is posting online about how much they hate us. Whatever. We’ll still step up when it counts, whether it's one of yours or someone else's. You have my full support in this fight, but don't expect me or my people to stay quiet just because you want to ignore the shady business involving that snake person... you won't get away with being hypocrites. I'm not digging up the past here, but after what happened to those folks in that heroic city, I'll say it a hundred times if I have to: it wasn't an accident. It happened just a week before those extremists targeted the people in that city. Maybe I'm tripping and someone will disagree, but if one of my own had done that, it would be thrown in their face. And don't get me started on the total collapse... not worth the breath. God, I hope you guys take him down. Seriously. But you know deep down you lost the battle in your own backyard, not because of person... he's a whole different story. Good luck!!

My late grandma would’ve told you, "there's nothing but rocks in your head." When are you going to realize what this is doing to us? That it’s eventually going to hit you too, or do I need to draw you a map? The guy is untouchable. He's got tentacles reaching into US Soccer, politics, the police department, everything. Anyone with half a brain knows we can only win if we all fight him together.

...yesterday I just stayed home, turned off my phone, shut off the TV, and went for a flight. I can't fight myself on this one. I can't just sit back and take it, even though I thought I could. Let's be real, the Black Knights stuck to the agreement, but who's actually responsible for the result?
p.s. Mario Galić is a finished story in the fan community; he took money from Mamić, so we can't trust a single word coming out of his mouth.
The whole group is just playing the club!
One quote: And now this Brubaker guy is starting to get on my nerves. He mentioned a hundred times how we shouldn't be lighting flares (Yeah, we got the message... -.-), acting like the most perfectly polite UEFA delegate ever... but he didn't say a SINGLE WORD condemning the illegal detention of hundreds of Kansas City Chiefs fans at the border or the fact they were blocked from entering Mexico.

🙏🙏🙏

rustyangler122 said:...yesterday I should have just stayed home, turned off my phone and the TV, and gone for a flight. You can't fight yourself. You can't stop being disappointed, even when you think you can. Let’s be real, the Black Knights stuck to the agreement, but who actually carries the blame for the result?
p.s. that fan leader guy is finished; he took money from the old regime, so we can't trust a single word they tell us.
The whole group is screwing the club!
One quote: And this unknown guy is starting to get on my nerves. He mentioned a hundred times how we aren't allowed to light flares (fine, we get it—seriously?), acting like the most polite UEFA delegate ever... But NOT ONCE did he mention or condemn the illegal detention of hundreds of Kansas City Chiefs fans at the border and being blocked from entering Mexico.

Amen!!! Those peasants from 1950!!

Jacob Palmer77 said:Look, kid, don't talk to me like that—I’ve never once insulted you, even though I’m at least twenty years your senior. At the very least.
If you can actually explain yourself with some real arguments, go ahead—give it your best shot—but if you’re lacking the vocabulary to make a point, don't try to compensate by resorting to personal insults.
So, what exactly did I "get wrong"? Is it because I quoted you saying the Black Knights are more important than the Kansas City Chiefs? Or because I (once again) quoted you saying you have no clue what’s actually happening on the field? Those are your own words, man, not my conclusions.
My actual conclusion is just this: when I connect the dots of everything you've said, it’s clear you guys aren't capable of coordinating the cheering with what's actually going down on the pitch. And what's the problem with that, kid?

Who is "we"?? I don't have anything to do with the first team or the leaders of the fan groups.
Don't just take everything at face value here. If I said I’ve watched enough games to be clueless about the technical side of football, that was because of the atmosphere in the stands—it's about how you feel while you're out there cheering and standing your ground.

When I say the Black Knights come before the Kansas City Chiefs, it’s like someone asking if you love your mom or your dad more. Everyone’s gonna give the same answer, but deep down, everyone usually has a little extra love for their mother—assuming we're talking about a normal family, 🤣 obviously.

We’re all here because of the Kansas City Chiefs—everything is built on them—but anyone who claims their specific group comes before the club is either lying or they just don't care about any of this stuff.

I can see exactly who's being sincere on this forum and who isn't. If that wasn't true, you'd all be calling me an idiot instead of just ignoring my posts. But hey, I don't know why it's such a shame to just say it plainly. 🤷

Anyway, shout out to all those idiots pretending to be someone they're not and acting like they've got all the wisdom in the world.

Melissa Reyes45 said:Look, you guys have shown solidarity toward the Kansas City Chiefs and the Black Knights plenty of times before. I won't even list all our past battles against various suits in management. We stood up to send a message of support after the police opened fire, only to find out some little kid was posting comments about how much they want to screw me over. But whatever. We’re still going to show up when it counts, whether it’s one of yours or someone else's. You have my 300% support in this fight, but don't expect me or my crew to stay quiet just because you're being hypocritical—I'm not going to dig through the past to bury the truth about certain people in leadership. After what happened to those folks in the Hero City, I’ll say it again and again: you know damn well that wasn't an accident, happening just a week before those extremists targeted them. Maybe I'm tripping and someone won't agree with me, but if one of my own people were insulted to their face, we'd react. And as for the total meltdown? I'm not even commenting; it's not worth the breath. God, I hope you guys finish them off. Seriously. You know it, even if you won't admit it: you lost the battle in your own backyard, and that's separate from the issues with Z.M. Good luck!!

I honestly can't believe what I'm reading here. All these ego trips just destroying everything. Just realize that you're screaming for your own sake, not for the Boys. If we keep acting like this, the cops are just going to come after the fans tomorrow. If you can't see that, you're just clueless.

A perfect example of fan solidarity... 🙄

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Melissa Reyes45 said:Look, you all showed solidarity toward the Kansas City Chiefs and the Black Knights plenty of times before—not that I need to list our endless battles against various bureaucrats in the past.We stood up to show support after the police opened fire, only to find out some little brat was commenting on what kind of trouble they should be looking for. But it doesn't matter; we will step up again when it comes to supporting fans, whether they are from your ranks or someone else's. You have my 300% support in your struggle,but don't expect me or my people to stay silent about that crook. You won't get that just because you're being hypocritical. I’m not digging through the past here, but after the attacks on those folks in the Hero City, I’ll say it again and again: you know perfectly well that wasn't a coincidence. It happened just a week before those extremists targeted the people of that city. Maybe I'm delusional and someone won't agree with me, but if one of my own were to insult someone to their face, I'd call it out. As for the total meltdown? I won't even bother commenting; it isn't worth the breath. I hope you all wipe them out, because let's be honest—you know you lost the battle in your own damn city, and blaming the local officials is just another excuse. Good luck!!

To be honest, the message the Ultras raised in Pula after January 15th carries a hundred times more weight than yours. A hundred times! Plus, fuck you.
Do you even remember when you wrote that you’d personally strip and burn that rag just because the boys carried it at a few national team matches? That is your version of "support" for the boys and their cause.

It all kicked off ages ago back in Washington, D.C., just the wrong people being in the wrong place at the wrong time... 🙂

I told myself I was done posting on this PDF once and for all, but seeing how people are treating "my" guys forces me to step in.
What the hell are you all whining about? They weren't out there screaming insults at anyone. Why do you even care what they shout or who they say it to?
Stick to your own little groups and stop trying to lecture everyone else!

@crna kesa, someone spent days working manual labor in Poland just because of your subscription. You really going to forget that?

Dennis Davis97 said:I honestly can't believe what I'm reading—seriously, if all you ego-trippers keep this up, you're gonna wreck everything. It feels like people are just screaming for their own sake instead of actually helping the boys, and if we keep acting like this, you'll be the one getting tackled by cops while trying to reach the stands tomorrow. If you don't see that, you're just being narrow-minded.

Look, I’m not even posting in the supporters' section, but I really don't get this constant obsession with pushing the same old narrative. Like, we have to tear down some corrupt figurehead right now just so we can feel better about ourselves?
Honestly, things could have been way worse if we hadn't already taken out the previous leadership back in the day. We could’ve been in a much darker spot if we had just rolled over for those outsiders. We might have even ended up in real danger in the stands back in 2009 if we’d made the wrong move when they stormed the North side against Washington, D.C. Maybe we would've dealt with heckling from the East if we’d acted like idiots before, sticking to that "better 100 real ones" nonsense. We could've shut the whole match down yesterday with just ten flares, but we didn't. We could've said the Black Knights don't exist without flares and stayed home, but we didn't. We could've turned our own existence into the only goal that matters, but we didn't.

We are this club that others have tried to drag to the bottom, only for us to pull ourselves right back up to the top. No, we aren't going to win the Champions League; but when we go up against those damn nobodies, 25,000 of us show up to cheer on the kids on the pitch. We've got a stand that looks incredible. And the relationship between the front office, the players, and the fans? I’d go as far as to say it's never been better. Yeah, we both screw up sometimes, but we also know deep down that none of us can do this without the others.

So, I have no clue why anyone keeps trying to force this idea that some new villain is going to take over. It won't happen. Various shady characters have popped up around the Kansas City Chiefs before, but they never truly took root because we actually stay aware of what's happening.

They could pass ten new laws tomorrow. They could ban us from waving flags or wearing our scarves. They could even kick the club out of the league if we don't all sit quietly in our seats. But none of that is going to be stopped by "showing solidarity" and chanting insults at some corrupt suit.

We went through that total meltdown once before, where we pledged everything to the Kansas City Chiefs but didn't put our money where our mouths were. It wasn't that nobody stood with us against the vermin—it was more that people actually mocked our struggle.

Back then, they thought it was funny because they were living the high life. Well, looking at them now? Their situation isn't so funny anymore.
But at the same time, it’s not something the Kansas City Chiefs should be panicking about. This corruption didn't just walk into the club; it grew alongside it. We've already proven that we won't let it run wild, and we'll do it again whenever it's needed. Don't sweat it.

Jesse Doyle3 said:@crna kesa, someone spent days working manual labor in Poland just because of your damn subreddit. You forgetting that?

Since you’re bringing up Poland... is that really all you've got?

The second incident over in Poland doesn't sit right with me at all, but we aren't going to get into that right now.

Kevin Nelson3 said:I’m not usually posting in the fan section, but I really don't get this constant obsession with pushing the same narrative. It feels like we have to tear down the current leadership just to feel like we're doing something.
We could have been in a much worse spot if we hadn't taken out the old management back then. Things might have turned even uglier if we had bowed down to those guys from the big cities. We could have faced total chaos in the stands back in 2009 if we’d made one wrong move when they stormed the North side during the game against Washington, D.C. Maybe we would've dealt with boos coming from the East if we'd been idiots before, clinging to that "better 100 pure souls" mentality. We could have shut the whole match down yesterday with just ten flares, but we didn't. We could have said the Black Knights don't exist without flares and stayed home, but we didn't. We could have become our own end goal, but we didn't.

We’re a club that everyone else has tried to drag to the bottom, yet somehow we always rise. No, we aren't winning the Champions League; but when we play against those damn outsiders, 25,000 people show up to cheer on the kids on the field. Our supporters' section looks great. Honestly, the relationship between the front office, the players, and the fans is probably the best it's ever been. Sure, we all make mistakes, but we also know we can't survive without each other.

So, I have no idea why anyone keeps trying to force the idea that some new corrupt mogul is going to take over. It won't happen. Various vultures have tried to nest around the Kansas City Chiefs before, but they never truly took hold because we were awake to their games.

They could pass ten new laws tomorrow. They could ban us from waving flags or wearing scarves. They could even kick the club out of the league if we don't sit quietly in our seats. But none of that is going to be stopped by "standing in solidarity" and screaming insults at the owner.

We went through a total meltdown once, swearing we'd support the Chiefs but refusing to spend a dime. It wasn't that nobody stood with us against the vermin; it was that people actually mocked our struggle.

Back then, they thought it was funny because they were living the high life. Well, looking at them now, I don't find their situation funny at all.
But that shouldn't make the Chiefs panic. That guy didn't infiltrate the club; he grew alongside it. We've already proven we won't let anyone take control, and we'll do it again if we ever have to. Don't worry about it.

Look, I'm just talking about the fan life here. It's obvious the government is backing him, and by extension, the police. If anyone thinks they can go up against the state, they're delusional—though I wish they weren't.

Keep it coming on the off-topic board, man. I live for your posts.🙂

Casey Palmer10 said:Since you brought up Poland... is that really all you're going to mention?

Georgia, Switzerland, Malta, Denmark, England... we have issues coming from every single direction.

We’ve been going toe-to-toe with that guy ever since he took over everything—the USSF, the refs, the whole league. It feels like we’re constantly at war with him. But honestly, that doesn't mean we have to spend every single match screaming at him from the stands. Everyone knows exactly where we stand on his nonsense.

We just decided to fight this battle a little differently, I guess... if someone can't handle that, they can go ahead and flip the channel to 🙂

I am truly exhausted by this endless bickering on this forum; it lacks any semblance of true fan culture or genuine passion.
The real sense of loyalty and authenticity can be found with the Ultras from some small Midwestern town, because they don't waste their breath on these retarded message boards where, historically speaking, no one ever actually wins an argument. ☕
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Jacob Palmer77 said:Listen, kid, don't talk to me like that. Even though I’m at least 20 years your senior, I have never once insulted you.
If you can provide an actual, reasoned argument, then go ahead—put some effort into it. But if you lack the vocabulary to make a point, don't try to compensate by resorting to personal insults.
So, what exactly did I do wrong? Is it because I quoted you saying the Black Knights matter more than the Kansas City Chiefs? Or is it because I (once again) quoted you admitting you have no clue what’s actually happening on the field? Those were your own words, not my conclusions.
My conclusion is simply this: when I connect your statements, it becomes clear that you people are incapable of coordinating the cheering with the reality of the game. So, where is the problem, kid?

Listen here, you old fossil! Meetings are held on a regular basis, so why don't you show up and actually voice your opinion? Why don't you start a discussion? Why don't you motivate anyone? It’s clearly easier for you to just write "I'm older" or "where were you when I was..."—honestly, I don't even know who you are. If you're so much older and supposedly wiser, stop acting like you know everything and lecturing someone who puts significantly more effort into this group than you ever have.

Brian Newman38 said:...they write the least on these brain-dead forums where nobody has ever actually won an argument in the history of time. ☕

Forum debates are just like idiot races. Even if you win, you're still an idiot.☕

cosmicridge6 said:Meetings happen all the time, so why don't you just show up and share what's actually on your mind? Start a debate? Shake things up a bit? It’s always easiest to just type out some "I'm older than you, where were you when I was your age..." nonsense. I don't even know who you are, man. If you're older and want to talk about how things used to be, fine, but maybe don't try to lecture someone who’s putting way more effort into this group than you ever will...

Where on earth did you see me telling anyone those "where were you when I was young" lines? Or acting like a know-it-all about anything? I'm just giving my two cents on a topic. If I'm allowed to, cool; if not, also cool. But honestly, we live in an era where you can't say or shout whatever you want without people trying to kick you out of the stands. Stay classy, kid!