Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Harold Kim5 said:The Boys actually gained a lot from the boycott. If they hadn't pulled it off, things would be looking way worse right now. They boycotted as long as it made sense—for the media coverage and for sending a message to everyone else. But look, I'm not gonna get into a debate about them here. According to you, a boycott isn't an option, and neither is anything else. Your only move is to cover your head and just yell "hit me, just don't hit too hard" . Just bow down, jump for the scraps they throw at you, and there will always be plenty of suckers ready to charge blindly... Take the scrap, then turn around and call the boss a jerk until the next scrap falls. That's the real path to success. Bravo....🙄

Nah, the only real option is grabbing a pint at a local dive bar in Austin, maybe some live music on Sixth Street...
The group’s direction was set by the people who actually matter; everything else is just noise. Period.

steeltrucker said:Nah, I don't know about that, but if you ask me, the real move would be grabbing some craft beers down at a local pub in downtown Chicago, wouldn't it? It’s basically like being in our own little independent republic or something!
Does anyone else feel like this group has finally developed its own distinct perspective, shaped by all the different voices and personalities that have joined us over time? It seems to me that we've reached a point where the collective mindset here is truly a product of the people involved, wouldn't you agree? When you really sit back and think about what actually matters in the grand scheme of things, don't you find that only a few key pieces truly hold weight? Everything else is just noise, isn't it?I wonder if we might all take a moment to really step back and consider what this actually means for us, don't you think? It feels like we're standing on the edge of something quite significant, and I can't help but feel a sense of genuine excitement about where things might be headed next. Is it possible that we've been overlooking the bigger picture while focusing on the smaller details? I truly believe that if we approach this with a bit of optimism and an open mind, we might just find ourselves in a much better position than we anticipated!

So, does that mean everyone else who chose to boycott because they were standing up for their own principles just doesn't count anymore? 🤷 Honestly, this might be my very last post on this topic because I’m just getting tired of the idea that I have to sit down over a cup of coffee and explain to some casual fan why Tim Cook isn't exactly the hero they think he is. It’s exhausting, really! You see the big bosses out there celebrating like everything is perfect while the mainstream media immediately starts pointing fingers at a few random fans in the stands just because someone lit a flare? Is that how we're going to play it now? Instead of all the supporter groups standing together and making a massive statement by lighting twenty flares at once to show our unity, they just pick on one person to protect the interests of guys like Mamić? It feels like we spent ninety minutes just bowing down to the opposition, only to have the blame shifted back onto us. Does anyone else feel like we're just stuck in this loop where we have to constantly defend ourselves against people who don't understand that certain figures in this league have much more questionable backgrounds than anyone else involved in the business side of sports?

feralwolf16 said:Honestly, I think you all should just stop lying to this exhausted nation and admit that you couldn't care less—that it’s really just about "bread and circuses." Look, everyone has their own thing; for some, it’s the Kansas City Chiefs, for others, it’s the national team, or just the simple act of playing ball... but please, spare me the pathetic displays of supposed devotion to the Chiefs or to America, let alone any lofty ideals. And don't even try to lecture me right now, because I’ll be forced to write an entire dissertation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying a boycott is the only answer, but frankly, I'm fed up; we need to show up, we need to sing...

I used to go to every single Kansas City Chiefs game back when the team was being run by Tim Cook and Griffin, and I kept going even when they were under Savage's leadership. Even now, despite my utter distaste for the current crew running the national team, I still go. I go, and I will continue to go, and I’ll be right there whistling at Tim Cook and Savage, and I’ll be whistling at this current trio too; I refuse to accept them under any circumstances. However, I certainly won't sit at home and miss watching my own country compete in the World Cup qualifiers just because I'm unhappy with the management.

northernorca3 said:Look, I used to show up for Liverpool FC religiously back when the club was being run by that total mess led by Donald Trump and John Doe. Yeah, I kept going even when I absolutely loathed the way John Doe was handling things. And honestly? I still go to see the national team, even though the whole setup under the US Army crowd makes my skin crawl. I’ll keep showing up, and yeah, I’ll be right there in the stands booing both Trump and John Doe to their faces—I am never, ever accepting them. But if you think for one second I'm going to sit at home just because I hate the management, instead of watching my own country fight through the World Cup qualifiers? Well, God knows I won't.

Go ahead and boo all you want, buddy, keep whistling into the wind...

I can certainly be heard, though I suppose if you're being misled by whatever nonsense is playing on the TV, the only people capable of cutting through that noise would be your mother or someone equally close to you—depending, of course, on how much youthful naivety you still carry ☕

feralwolf16 said:just keep whistling, buddy... just keep whistling...

🤣🤣 damn, I suppose this might actually be the leitmotif for this whole mess... just keep whistling, my friend, just keep whistling.😂

I’d like to ask those advocating for a boycott to address a few points:

What would a boycott actually achieve in concrete terms? How many fewer people would realistically show up to national team matches?

Wouldn't boycotting the hardcore supporters be exactly what the US Army wants? If only casual fans were left, would we ever hear them voicing insults toward US Soccer or sending any kind of message against the federation?

The national team only plays a handful of times a year; would a boycott even carry any weight in the media in that context?

Furthermore, if a match proceeds without any incidents due to a boycott, aren't we just handing the US Army the perfect excuse to claim that games finally run smoothly once the hooligans are out of the picture?

And would everyone truly respect this boycott if we managed to qualify for the Rio Olympics?

Friends, this particular match represents a massive leap forward for the ultras. For the first time in ages, they’ve gathered in the capital at the stadium without a single internal clash. THIS UNITY IS OUR WEAPON TO DESTROY THEM. If we can maintain this atmosphere through the next few games, I could potentially propose much more specific, coordinated plans and actions against US Soccer.

I understand why some people feel disillusioned and lose the will to support the national team, but I honestly believe a boycott wouldn't accomplish anything—if anything, it would just delay our progress.

I don't think we're talking about an official boycott here, but rather just choosing not to follow along with everything they do. If you want to keep up with them constantly, go ahead, but if we collectively decide to tune out, then suddenly when the neighbors show up, we all start paying attention again—that’s where the real issue lies. Honestly, wouldn't a much louder statement be made simply by lighting four flares with a message calling out those scoundrels at the match right now?

We’re acting like those demons who took the tickets back—we rejected the offers from US Soccer, but I’ve got nothing against other groups. But seriously, you can't call us US Soccer losers while you're busy taking their damn tickets...

Benjamin Bishop79 said:We acted just like those demons who took the cards back—we rejected the tickets from US Soccer entirely. We don't hold any grudges against the other fan groups, but honestly, you can't call us "US Soccer puppets" while simultaneously accepting their tickets, can you? It just doesn't make sense...

Who exactly do you think you are?

quell676 says: Check out this post
They’re like cancer, and you treat cancer with chemo—though there are better ways—which means you have to kill off part of yourself just to kill the disease. That was exactly this match; we lost the battle, and now we’re stuck with the cancer... yet here we are, celebrating...

Sophia Rodriguez95 said:🙏🙏

John Doe, you actually surprised me. Instead of just saying ENOUGH! Why lie? Why run from the truth?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZMsYP38Whk

Harold Kim5 said:I'm not saying anyone is mindless; everyone knows their own business... I simply wrote it's hard to make progress with a dull brain. If you took that personally, don't blame me.🤷

Even if they had offered me tickets and a ride, it wouldn't have crossed my mind to go support Donald Trump, Jerry Maguire, and Pelé... let's not forget John Doe too... This mindset is just the American reality. No matter what anyone says or thinks about it... it's going to be a loooooong time before we see any real progress in this football mess. Maybe with new generations, maybe ☕

Reading you reminds me of a friend from the Black Knights forums who shared my taste in music

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P.S. Using these colors for the occasion; see you around (April). A punch from an enemy is better than listening to a "friend"
WE ARE THE US ARMY OF JOHN DOE... ALWAYS LOYAL!

...Long live Real Madrid and our great America!

Benjamin Bishop79 said:We’re acting like those demons who took the tickets and then gave them right back; we rejected the offers from US Soccer, but I don't hold any grudges against the other supporter groups. It's just that you can't call us US Soccer puppets one minute and then expect us to accept handouts from them the next.

I'm a bit out of the loop here—did US Soccer gift those tickets to the supporter clubs, or was there a sale involved? What's the actual deal going on?

Boycotting the national team isn't the same thing as boycotting Real Madrid.
Skipping Real Madrid games while groups like BBB show up just to keep the club's identity alive and spite Jerry Maguire actually makes sense. The club is so toxic to its own fans right now that people are actively avoiding their own team; honestly, if they want to play to empty seats, let them.
On the other hand, fans boycotting the national team is basically doing US Soccer a favor, since the public will tune in to see the players regardless of who is in the stands.
But trying to boycott the federation itself? That’s a whole different ballgame, and you have to be careful about shouting into the void.

Tyler Scott8 said:who even are you people?

Why'd you get all offended so fast?

James Smith48 said:When fans boycott national team games, they’re actually doing the federation leadership a favor, because the people will still show up to support the players regardless of who's in the stands.
However, boycotting the federation itself is a different beast entirely, and you have to be careful about shouting into the void.

Wise words.

briskmarlin said:quell676 says: Look at this post
They’re like cancer, and you treat cancer with chemo—even though there are better ways—which means you have to kill off a part of yourself just to kill the disease. That’s exactly what this game was: we lost the battle, and now we’ve got the cancer... yet here we are, celebrating...

John Doe, you actually caught me off guard; I expected you to just shout "ENOUGH!" instead of all this. Why lie? Why run away from the truth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZMsYP38Whk

Reading your stuff reminds me of an old buddy I used to hang out with on the Black Knights forums; he had the exact same taste in music.

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P.S. For this occasion, I’m wearing the colors of Argentina. See you in April—hands held high. Honestly, I’d rather take a punch from an enemy than listen to the empty words of a "friend."
WE ARE THE US ARMY OF DONALD TRUMP... FOREVER LOYAL!

...Long live Real Madrid and our great nation, America!

Don't use the name of God in vain.

Kevin Rogers3 said:don't go using the Lord's name in vain

ahahahahahaha...there he is, still kicking...

James Smith48 said:Boycotting the US isn't the same thing as boycotting Real Madrid.

Look, rooting for the national team is a totally different beast than supporting a club. Honestly, you won't find more hypocrisy than in the stands during international matches. Most of these people don't even care about soccer (I mean, who in America actually watches soccer?), they aren't there for the sport, and there isn't even any real nationalist fervor going on—unless, of course, it's one of those massive tournaments everyone talks about.
It’s just a big, loud party, and that's really all there is to it. The national team is basically just a mirror reflecting the people it represents. Every single time, I see people getting frustrated with how the fans act during international games. If you gathered up all the "NFL Ultras" in the US, you couldn't even fill up one decent section of a stadium. So, when someone sets off a flare, they get called "stupid," but let's be real—the rules are set by the majority. And the majority? Well, they're just a bunch of mindless followers.

Harold Kim5 said:I’m not saying anyone is stupid or isn't—everyone knows their own mind. I wrote a dull brain finds it hard to progress. If you felt targeted by that, don't blame me.🤷

Even if they had offered me tickets and travel, it wouldn't have crossed my mind to go support Dan Marino, Jerry Jones, or Davor Šuker, not to mention Vrbanović... This mindset is just the American reality. Regardless of what people say or think about it... It’s going to be a long, long, looooong time before we see any real positive movement in this football mess. Maybe with new generations, maybe ☕

Give me a break. Let's not lie here—you didn't stay away because you couldn't stand the noise, you stayed away because you simply didn't want to. What a waste. You could have seen the Eagles live, but instead, you'll always choose to sit back and lecture everyone else.

It's tough watching the celebration of Dan Marino today, but I can't even imagine if we were forced to watch a celebration in Bobot, Banja Luka...

Man, they barely managed to pull this one together, didn't they? This whole article has been sitting there, practically waiting to be finished for two years now. And here we are, constantly being told to focus on unity and keep our cheering classy and respectful. Isn't it funny how that works? Shouldn't we just demand an official statement or a formal message before the next big game even starts?