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Dealing with hemorrhoids – any advice?

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melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#301 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:To the mods: I am not out here running an ad campaign. Every time you call me out, it’s just ego and a misunderstanding. Penalizing me would be completely unjustified. I haven't broken any rules—I make sure of that... You claim Dolokain isn't allowed. That's wrong. Dolokain gel is sold regularly in America; it's an American product and it's on the approved drug list. It is a proven, effective medication and likely the best option for this type of discomfort. Anyone saying otherwise is simply uninformed. And again, there are hemorrhoid creams containing corticosteroids that doctors prescribe to patients—I didn't make that up. I'm stating a fact: many doctors maintain that lidocaine-based meds are the most effective for pain relief because they are excellent anesthetics. For specifics, read the instructions and always consult with a doctor. I won't sit here and take false accusations and threats for no reason...

My bad, you were right. I looked it up online: I didn't have much time to dig through the web, and when I checked their database, it didn't pop up, so I assumed it wasn't on the list.

By the way, over here, you can't get corticosteroid creams, drops, or anything else without a prescription. The same goes for antibiotics. Basically, no matter how you look at it, you need to see a doctor and get professional advice. If a doctor clears it and something goes wrong or gets worse, the responsibility lies with whoever wrote the prescription.

Steroids in any form aren't harmless. Using them comes with serious consequences, which is exactly why they require a prescription. Unless, of course, someone finds a loophole to bypass regulations, like they do with certain painkillers and other stuff.


Bryan Fisher
switch doctors instead of experimenting with random stuff. You don't know if it's a fungal infection. Corticosteroids suppress the immune system (which applies to topical use too; the skin in those areas becomes more sensitive and prone to infection). If you actually have a fungus, you could be doing yourself a massive disservice by making sure they settle in even deeper. If you catch a stubborn strain, you're in trouble. Fungal infections are incredibly annoying and persistent; once you hit a tough one, you'll be cursing your own stupidity. Switch doctors or go back to yours and tell her it isn't working. Don't let her brush you off—insist she runs the necessary tests, and if she can't figure it out, she needs to refer you to a specialist.

edit: Just so everyone knows for the future, you shouldn't comment on moderator warnings within the threads. Doing so usually results in penalties for breaking the rules. If something isn't clear, just send a private message.
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
154 messages
joined Nov 2009
#302 ·
Emily Fisher said:She didn't really say much, just handed me a referral for a proctologist. And the waiting lists are incredibly long... so I guess my only option is to wait and just deal with it. 🙄

Then you don't have much choice but to wait your turn... Did they run any tests on you? If I understood correctly, everything was fine regarding parasites... But did they check for fungal infections? I don't think that's it because those are rare; in my opinion, it’s most likely hemorrhoids. Here is what happened with me regarding hemorrhoids. Faktu didn't work for me, but some Canadian cream—God knows which one, I just remember it had a cooling effect... I was in terrible pain, honestly, I was screaming through the night... Eventually, the pain subsided, and I was taking antibiotics too. And the itching was incredible... Those first two days were brutal, but I was just happy the pain finally stopped. It sounds exactly like what you're going through, truly... And it cleared up quickly once I used that cream (doesn't matter for this thread, but I recall it being green... 😁). A few months before that, when I had my first major flare-up, I treated the painful area with Faktu... It itched like crazy toward the end as it was healing... But I didn't scratch it and it settled down... Naturally, after many years, surgery became inevitable. Try not to irritate the area; keep it clean, and hopefully, it will be easier. Did anything actually protrude?
Patrick Taylor16 Patrick Taylor16 Member
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#303 ·
Someone was asking who my surgeon was... his name is Adnan Begović
Tyler James5 Tyler James5 Active Member
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joined Jul 2012
#304 ·
Donna Johnson16 said:Nah, look... corticosteroid creams? They aren't exactly the holy grail for hemorrhoids. Honestly, they aren't even that good...

Michael Diaz4 said:So, the real question is... why does almost every single hemorrhoid cream out there have to be loaded with corticosteroids? Like, what's the deal with that...?

Donna Johnson16 said:That’s just not how it works... definitely not true.

Michael Diaz4 said:So, turns out lidocaine actually works... honestly...

Donna Johnson16 said:Look, let's get one thing straight about how lidocaine actually works... there is absolutely zero connection between a local anesthetic and corticosteroids. Seriously. So, my whole point about the body's reaction—and that comment I made earlier—has nothing to do with them. It’s just not how it works...

Donna Johnson16 said:Look, I’m telling you again... I am absolutely not talking about lidocaine.

Donna Johnson16 said:Look, we need to lay down some ground rules for the Health subforum if we don't want this place turning into a total disaster zone... just stay sharp and follow these guidelines: First off, let’s be real—none of us are doctors here. Seriously. Don't go treating these threads like an online clinic or expecting anyone to give you a medical diagnosis. If you're feeling like garbage, go see a professional at a local hospital or call your doctor. We're just people sharing experiences, not practicing medicine... so please, keep that distinction clear. Second, keep the discussions civil. I know health stuff can get intense and emotional, but nobody wants to deal with the usual internet toxicity. No personal attacks, no bullying, and definitely no harassment. Just keep it respectful, even when you disagree with someone's take on a treatment or a supplement... it's not that hard. Third, regarding specific medications or treatments—like if someone mentions Dolokain or Lidoprokt—don't start pushing them as "miracle cures." Every body reacts differently, and what works for one person might do nothing for another. Always mention that individual results vary... and again, check with the FDA or your actual physician before you go buying anything based on a random comment. Also, please keep things relevant. This isn't the place for political rants or venting about the latest news cycle. Stick to the topic of wellness, health, and recovery. If you start veering off into unrelated drama, the mods are gonna have to step in... and nobody wants that. Lastly, avoid spamming. Don't come in here just to drop links to some sketchy website trying to sell you "magic" pills. We've got enough junk to deal with as it is. Basically, just be cool, be helpful, and remember we're all just trying to navigate this stuff together... keep it chill and let's keep the quality high.

The Health subforum is pretty much tied directly to conventional medicine... you know, the science-based stuff that actually carries weight...

Look, just a heads-up... you can't be out here promoting any meds that haven't been cleared by the FDA. Period.


Look, let's get one thing straight... Dolokain isn't some miracle cure for hemorrhoids. It’s just a local anesthetic. It doesn't actually do anything to fix the underlying issue, it just numbs the pain for a little while so you can function... nothing more, nothing less.

So, what's actually inside Dolokain gel? Let me break it down for you...
So, just a heads-up for anyone looking at the label... there's 20 mg of lidocaine per gram in this gel. Just so you know...
The filler ingredients listed here... propylene glycol, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, disodium phosphate dihydrate, sodium chloride, hydroxyethylcellulose, and purified water. Just the usual stuff you'd see in most standard formulas... nothing too crazy in there.

No corticosteroids available... nothing.

Ugh, okay, maybe I wasn't being clear enough before. Let's try this one more time...

That moderator warning in bright red letters? It was specifically about that medication from Canada, Lidoprokt... you guys have mentioned a dozen times yourselves that you can't even find it here in the States and that it’s packed with steroids. I only dropped that red alert right then because the other mods made it clear I had to warn you all about the rules in the Health PDF...

The rest of that post has absolutely nothing to do with the dosage warning...

Just to circle back to what we were talking about earlier... I really want to single out the meds that are strictly lidocaine. There's a massive difference, you know? And just so we're all on the same page—I'm stressing this part—there are absolutely zero corticosteroids in Dolokain... none at all...

just like here:

Donna Johnson16 said:My buddy and I both jumped on that comment earlier... those were your exact words, right? We both shut that down immediately—no corticosteroids. Period. And just to be clear, I’ve mentioned this a few times already, but lidocaine has absolutely nothing to do with that stuff. It’s just an anesthetic... so honestly, feel free to use it and recommend it all you want...

🙂 How many times do I have to repeat myself? Seriously... I’m NOT talking about lidocaine. I am talking about corticosteroids!
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#305 ·
Donna Johnson16 said:Maybe I wasn't clear enough the first time. Let's try this again.

The moderator warning in red was specifically about that medication from Canada, Lidoprokt / Lidoproct, which you all mentioned several times isn't available here in the States and contains steroids. I put that red warning up because the other mods pointed out I needed to remind everyone about the rules for the Health subforum.

The rest of my post actually has nothing to do with the moderation warning.

In the rest of the post, I'm pulling out the medications that contain only lidocaine—because those are different—and I want to emphasize that Dolokain does not have corticosteroids in it.

Just like right here:

🙂How many times do I have to say it? I am NOT talking about lidocaine. I am talking about corticosteroids.

No, no, and once again, no. Lidoprokt is a lidocaine-based medication and it doesn't have any corticosteroids in it. The equivalent drug in other countries has a similar name and the formula is practically identical... Just check it... And of course, those drugs don't contain steroids,🙂 so that's what I've been saying this whole time. You just aren't hearing me...
Tyler James5 Tyler James5 Active Member
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#306 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:No, no, and NO again. Lidoprokt is just a lidocaine-based cream—there aren't any corticosteroids in it. You can find similar stuff under different names in other countries, but the formula is basically identical... Just look it up... And obviously, those meds don't have steroids in them,🙂 which is what I've been trying to tell you this whole time, you clearly missed my point...


unfortunately, you are ACTUALLY wrong. Lidoprokt doesn't just have lidocaine, it also contains hydrocortisone—and that right there is the exact problem I've been banging on about this entire time.

Looking at the other posts in this thread, it’s pretty obvious that you guys DO know it contains corticosteroids. 🤷 So, who's the crazy one here?
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#307 ·
Donna Johnson16 said:Unfortunately, you are WRONG. Aside from the lidocaine, Lidoprokt also contains hydrocortisone—and that is exactly the issue I have been trying to point out this whole time.

Looking at the other posts in this thread, it’s pretty obvious you DO know there are corticosteroids in there. 🤷Who are we kidding here?

What...? Lidoprokt has hydrocortisone in it...? 😕I had no idea...🤷 But honestly, it doesn't even matter. It is hands down the best medication for prevention, dealing with hemorrhoid issues, or managing the recovery period after surgery in the anal and perianal area... I don't have any info on Lidoprokt on me right now since I haven't used it in over two years... but I know what the man said. Lidoprokt is the only thing that works for post-op relief and reducing pain from inflamed hemorrhoids... So I am certain it's good. A person wouldn't just lie and gamble with people's health by spreading falsehoods... There is actually one little trick some people don't realize, which I used successfully when my condition first started—back then, the version of Lidoprokt had a slightly different name, I can't recall exactly, but it had something similar in the title (Lido...) and I used it alongside some medicated powder... That really helped in the early stages, and then eventually everything else failed too... Don't stick your nose where it doesn't belong if you don't understand the situation (in other words, you're making excuses now, and as the old saying goes, it wasn't the gambling that got him in trouble, it was the way he tried to cover it up😁), this is definitely the best hemorrhoid cream out there, take my word for it... and you'll be eating your words soon enough.
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
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joined May 2004
#308 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Wait... Lidoprokt has hydrocortisone in it...? 😕 Didn't realize that... 🤷 Not that it matters, though. It’s easily the best thing out there for prevention, hemorrhoid issues, or recovery after surgery in the anal and perianal area... I don't have any info on Lidoprokt handy since I haven't used it in over two years... But I know what was said. Lidoprokt is the only way to go for post-op or managing pain from inflamed hemorrhoids... So I'm sure it works... A person wouldn't lie about something like this and mess with people's health... There's also a little trick some people miss, which I used successfully when things first started—back when the old version of Lidoprokt had a slightly different name, something starting with "Lido..." I used it along with some powder... That helped in the beginning, then everything else failed... Don't try to lecture me on stuff you don't understand, it's definitely the best cream for hemorrhoids, tried and true...

You're hopeless. 😁

How can you claim to know the exact formula of the old Lido... when you didn't even know current Lidoprokt contains corticosteroids?
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#309 ·
crimsongull20 said:There’s just no winning with you. 😁

How can you claim to know the exact formula of the old Lido... when you don't even realize that today's Lidoprokt contains corticosteroids?

Because two different doctors told me so, and later my wife—who is also a doctor—confirmed it. Is that clear enough for you? I wasn't exactly worried about what else was in there besides the lidocaine back when it was prescribed and actually working for me...
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
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#310 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Because two different doctors told me so, and then my wife—who’s a doctor—confirmed it... Is that clear enough? I didn't care what else was in there besides the lidocaine once it was recommended and actually worked...

Look, I've heard that kind of nonsense from hundreds of doctors, mostly specialists and department heads. Just because some random MD said it doesn't mean anything at all.

The discussion was about the actual ingredients. You grab the box or the pamphlet and you read it.
That's really it.
Tyler James5 Tyler James5 Active Member
142 messages
joined Jul 2012
#311 ·
Is it just me, or is this getting seriously awkward? Because honestly... I’m feeling pretty uncomfortable here...

Michael Diaz4 said:Wait... what? You're telling me Lidoprokt actually has hydrocortisone in it...? 😕 Huh, I actually had no clue about that...

ovo je vaš tekst s ove teme od 25.02.2011.:

Michael Diaz4 said:...

So, looks like I finally stumbled onto something that actually works: Lidoproct. I was digging through the ingredients to see what the deal was... per gram of this rectal ointment, you're looking at 180 mg of zinc oxide, 50 mg of lidocaine, 35 mg of aluminum subacetate, and 2.5 mg of hydrocortisone acetate. Honestly, might be exactly what I needed...

It actually works... just totally kills off any irritation on the surface. ...

Since September 2nd, 2011...

Michael Diaz4 said:Good luck hunting down Lidoproct. It’s made by Pfizer, and honestly, they’re probably the only ones who actually know what they're doing when it comes to making this stuff... You might be able to find a generic version under some similar name here in the States, but man... that cream is seriously good...

So, about yesterday...

Michael Diaz4 said:Look, I feel like I’ve already covered this ground before, so I’m basically just repeating myself here... but fine, since you're asking again... maybe give those creams a shot? You know, the ones that actually have corticosteroids or lidocaine in them...

today...

Michael Diaz4 said:Funny thing is, back in the day—like, twenty years ago—my old-school doctor told me straight up that Faktu was basically useless since it didn't have any corticosteroids in it... Then, after my surgery, this specialist professor tells me that only Lidoprokt actually does the trick. Since Lidoprokt has lidocaine, I ended up sticking with that because it actually numbs the tissue, which was huge. For the digital massage, I just used a lidocaine-based gel... So, there wasn't any corticosteroid involved there either, which means...🤷So then the question is, why does almost every hemorrhoid cream out there rely on corticosteroids in the first place?

Michael Diaz4 said:Look, I'm telling you, it's true. Believe me, I've been dealing with this crap for 20 years and most of those creams were loaded with corticosteroids. I already mentioned what my old doctor told me back in the day about twenty years ago... back then, the advice was basically to skip Faktu because it didn't have any steroids in it. And honestly? Back then, Faktu didn't even do anything for me. ... My go-to recommendation is Lidoprokt or something similar that actually has lidocaine in it...

Michael Diaz4 said:...

I'm not out here running ads or trying to push corticosteroids on anyone.

Michael Diaz4 said:Wait, what...? Lidoprokt has hydrocortisone in it...? 😕 Man, I had no idea...🤷 But whatever, it doesn't even matter, it’s still hands down the best stuff you can use for prevention, for managing hemorrhoid issues, or even during that post-op recovery phase after surgery in the anal and perianal area...

And hey, don't worry, I'm not expecting any of you guys to start throwing ashes at me.
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#312 ·
Donna Johnson16 said:Aren't you embarrassed yet? Because I certainly am.

Here is your text from this thread dated February 25, 2011:

From September 2, 2011:

Yesterday:

Today:

And don't worry, I'm not expecting you to go out and scatter ashes over yourself.

Look, I don't have the package or the instruction manual for Lidoproct right here, so I can't recite the exact ingredients list. But I will say it again: this is the best cream for these kinds of anorectal issues. You're arguing about things you clearly don't understand... And if you want to throw ashes around, fine. At least you've finally started reading my posts... I only recommend these two specific creams because they come from a professor who is a total authority on the subject. So, it's time you actually listen... 😉
Instructions for you: read everything to the end and actually process it, rather than just skimming through with your own assumptions. ☕ Once again, I turn out to be right: the cream contains corticosteroids, which you keep insisting shouldn't be applied to the anal and anorectal area... Essentially, you're wrong. You don't understand the science, but you're trying to force your opinion anyway... It's good that you dug up my old and recent posts where everything is laid out clearly... So, when are you going to start throwing those ashes? Back in 2011, I could tell you exactly what was in Lidoproct because I had it on hand, but I don't need it now that my surgery is behind me... To reiterate, I used it constantly for 45 days straight after my procedure (and occasionally in previous years when I dealt with hemorrhoids, though nothing helped once things really went south). I went through God knows how many tubes under the recommendation of a university professor, and now you're lecturing me and everyone else saying it shouldn't be used... 😂 You aren't right. Just start scattering the ashes...☕
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#313 ·
crimsongull20 said:Look, I’ve overheard enough nonsense from hundreds of doctors—mostly specialists and department heads—to know that just because some random MD says something, it doesn't make it gospel.

We were talking about the actual ingredients in the medication. You take the box or the pamphlet and you read what's inside.
That's really all there is to it.

Listen, I've scrolled through endless threads on various forums and read plenty of garbage, but why don't you go back and read the previous post and try to debunk those doctors... Oh wait, I forgot, everyone on these forums is an absolute expert. Clearly, nobody knows more than a keyboard warrior... 🙄 I laid everything out exactly as it happened, down to the smallest detail. People actually reached out to me for advice because I have real-world experience in this field, I don't make things up, and I don't go around attacking professionals—especially not doctors. Most importantly, this is NOT fabricated. Everything took place under the supervision of a university professor... But hey, I'm sure you know better than anyone...☕
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
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#314 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Look, I’ve scrolled through enough PDFs on this forum to see every ridiculous theory out there. You should probably just read the last post and debunk those doctors yourself... But hey, why bother? Everyone on these forums is an expert anyway. Nothing beats a keyboard warrior's medical degree... 🙄 I laid everything out exactly as it happened, down to the last detail. People on the forums were actually reaching out for advice from someone who isn't making things up or trashing professionals—especially doctors. This isn't fiction, either; everything was overseen by a university professor... But hey, I’m sure you know better than anyone...☕

Michael Diaz4, this isn't about doctors, professors, or anyone on this forum... It's about you claiming Lidoprokt contained a corticosteroid and then later insisting it was just lidocaine...
Got the box and the instructions right here... yeah, it's got lidocaine plus a corticosteroid in there too.

You can't drop contradictions like that when the facts are this clear... then just shift the blame onto the doctors, professors, and your wife once you're proven wrong... 🤣.
That’s a quick way to lose all credibility...
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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#315 ·
Let’s finally put this nonsense to bed.

Lidoproct is a medication—specifically a cream—that you can't just pick up here in the States. Period. We aren't discussing it here anymore because it isn't available in the US. Any creams with similar or identical ingredients—meaning they contain lidocaine and hydrocortisone (or corticosteroids, if we're being technical)—are prescription-only in America. You can't just walk into a CVS or Walgreens and grab them off the shelf. Generally speaking, steroids, creams, drops, or anything containing them require a doctor's approval in the US, so please stop telling people to go buy things at the pharmacy that they legally cannot get without a script.
I already linked the Dolokain gel, or whatever it's called, from the HALMED website above ( it clearly states it requires a prescription, and that's the end of the discussion regarding that too.

We are done recommending prescription-only creams.

One more thing: I don't want to see this kind of tone on the Health board. Take my warning seriously. If I come back to this thread and find people acting like this again, I won't be typing in red text next time—I'll just start handing out bans.
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#316 ·
crimsongull20 said:Michael Diaz4, this isn't about doctors, university professors, or even the people on this forum. This is about you. You first said Lidoprokt contained a corticosteroid, then you pivoted and claimed it was just lidocaine.
I have the box and the packaging right here in front of me, and yes, it definitely contains a corticosteroid alongside the lidocaine.

You can't throw out contradictions like that when dealing with facts. And once you're proven wrong, you can't just shift the blame onto doctors, professors, or your wife🤣.
That's how you lose all credibility.

Look, I'm the one with credibility here. You clearly don't have a clue. You can pick this medication up anywhere in the US, so you're holding it too. One version doesn't have a corticosteroid, while another does—and that's actually a good thing. It's like having the same brand name product available in Europe with slight variations... You just don't get it.
brighttiger87 brighttiger87 Newcomer
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#317 ·
Could someone please let me know if it’s actually safe to use Faktu during pregnancy, and has anyone here had any personal experience with it? To be honest, I got a bit of a mixed response at the local CVS pharmacy, where they told me it might be okay but also expressed some hesitation 🙄 I've been using Hemoprocin, but unfortunately, it hasn't provided much relief at all... 😢 Do you happen to have any advice or suggestions? Thanks so much
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
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#318 ·
Just call an OB-GYN and ask them. They should have the answer. 🙂
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
154 messages
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#319 ·
brighttiger87 said:Can anyone tell me if it's okay to use Fact ointment during pregnancy? Has anyone here actually used it? The pharmacist gave me a totally mixed answer, saying both yes and no. 🙄I'm currently using Hemolex, but nothing seems to be working...😢 Any advice at all? Thanks.

This will be my final post on this thread. I just wanted to make sure I got an answer to you personally. The moderators won't let us tell the truth here, and crimsongull20 has even been insulting me over it. But honestly, that doesn't matter. This is for you...

Pregnancy and Breastfeeding:
If you are pregnant, planning to become pregnant, or breastfeeding, please inform your doctor:
niku:
-Since there aren't any specific studies available regarding
using Fact during pregnancy, your doctor will have to decide if it's appropriate.
-Fact ointment should only be used during pregnancy if strictly necessary, following a careful assessment of the benefits versus the risks to both mother and child.
-Talk to your doctor about whether you want to use Fact while breastfeeding.
-It isn't known if the active ingredients pass into breast milk.
-During breastfeeding, Fact is only prescribed if the expected benefit to the mother outweighs any potential risk to the baby.
Always consult a physician or pharmacist before taking any medication.


Here is the link:http://www.fda.gov/drugs/information-patients/patient-information-leaflets
brighttiger87 brighttiger87 Newcomer
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#320 ·
melloworca6 and Michael Diaz4, thank you both. My gynecologist suggested I try Hemolex, but honestly, nothing seems to be making a difference.
Regarding the Fact ointment, my doctor gave me the exact same advice found in the official medication guide, so I’m feeling quite conflicted about whether I should actually use it or not, even though I know plenty of other pregnant women swear by it. 🙄😢 I am truly at my wit's end with all of this. 😢

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