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feralpanther50 feralpanther50 Member
39 messages
joined Feb 2012
#141 ·
Raymond King47 said:First point—how did we actually show unity? Just yelling at each other from 200 yards away without any real contact... basically nothing.

Second point—was this even necessary? It should have happened a long time ago... so again, nothing achieved.

The bottom line is simple. We haven't accomplished anything, and it doesn't look like we will. There is no real action plan from the fans against the mob... unfortunately. And yet, you all still insist that we proved ourselves yesterday.

Exactly! Honestly, did you really think things would change before the big game?
The police are just pathetic.
Raymond King47 Raymond King47 Member
26 messages
joined Feb 2012
#142 ·
feralpanther50 said:exactly! honestly, did you really think things were gonna shift before the big game? i mean, seriously!?
The cops are just straight up gross.

I mean, who was actually being realistic enough to believe anything would change... there isn't even any unified chanting anymore... everything has just become totally repulsive...
shadowgardener10 shadowgardener10 Member
19 messages
joined Jan 2011
#143 ·
Jonathan Lewis3 said:A lot of people are just checked out. Maybe you aren't, but plenty of others are.
The atmosphere in the river was trash because the main squad, the drummers, the megaphones, and all the gear were missing.
And this new section isn't any worse than the last one. It just takes patience. Managing a crowd like this works perfectly when you have three megaphones and three poles; it’ll get better with time.

Ever since that massive summer run back in February 2007, I've been at every single derby in the South stands, and I can tell you: yesterday was the absolute worst cheering I've seen in all those games. Props to the guys for trying, but they clearly can't spark an atmosphere.

I walked away from the South stands feeling pretty depressed yesterday. The Kansas City Chiefs played like cowards, the chanting was pathetic, and the fan awareness is just bottom-tier.

The Bloods looked like a way more serious group than us yesterday. 🙂
neonstag neonstag Newcomer
4 messages
joined May 2013
#144 ·
velvetfalcon80 said:Preventative measures are absolutely essential! Truly! I was just thinking about this the other day while grabbing coffee in Chicago. You have to stay ahead of the curve if you want to keep things running smoothly. It’s all about that proactive mindset! So, looking at the latest updates regarding the league—specifically moving into the tenth round of the season—there is a massive push for direct prevention strategies. It’s vital stuff. Really! If we don't get these protocols right, everything falls apart. We need to be vigilant. Always! I mean, think about it. You wouldn't wait for a leak in your basement to start checking your pipes, right? Of course not! You check them beforehand! It’s the same logic here with the league's disciplinary and preventative actions. It’s about maintaining order and ensuring the integrity of the game stays rock solid. We need that stability! It keeps everyone on their toes and ensures the spectacle remains top-tier. It’s a bit like how a major corporation like ExxonMobil manages its safety protocols. They don't just react when an oil spill happens; they spend millions ensuring it never happens in the first place. That is the level of foresight we should be seeing! It’s all about that meticulous, forward-thinking approach. Absolutely essential! Everything rests on these little preventative details. Just small, necessary steps to keep the whole machine humming perfectly!

It was basically a holiday of pure chaos and anti-fan madness... just absolute mayhem that kept escalating until things finally boiled over right before the end of the game. The fans! Oh, the fans! You just can't escape that energy, can you? It’s absolutely electric! Everywhere you look, there's just this raw, unbridled passion pulsing through the crowd. It's constant! It's loud! It's everything! Honestly, you haven't truly lived until you've been swept up in that sea of people, all shouting and cheering in unison. It’s quite something, really. Truly magnificent! The Crips on the south stand were absolutely losing their minds! Just pure chaos! Honestly, you could feel the energy vibrating through the concrete. It was wild! Total devastation! Just complete and utter chaos out there! Everything is absolutely shattered! Over. 200 The capital... and while they were... Those anti-football types! Honestly, they just don't get it! They really don't! It’s always the same thing with them—just constant negativity and zero passion! Such a drag! The New York Yankees. Smash a dime! Just go ahead and break one! The capital! It’s all about the capital, isn't it? Everything flows from there! You look at the center of power, the heart of the whole operation, and suddenly everything makes sense. It’s the hub! The core! Every major decision, every massive movement—it all starts at the seat of government. Just think about it! It’s where the energy is concentrated!

So, let me get this straight... you're telling me that the fewer chairs I smash, the more of an anti-fan I am? That’s just wild! Honestly, such a bizarre way to look at things! Truly!

Singing along to those Bloods lyrics: "You won't take my torch from me!" To ban? To prohibit? Honestly, now that I think about it... it’s such a heavy word, isn't it? A bit blunt! A bit sudden! But when you really sit down and weigh the implications of a total ban, well, things get complicated fast. It’s like trying to put a lid on a boiling pot—you might stop the steam for a second, sure, but the pressure? Oh, the pressure just builds up underneath. You can't just say "no" to everything and expect the world to keep spinning smoothly. It's all about balance! Everything is about finding that sweet spot between order and absolute chaos. If we start banning every little thing that makes us uncomfortable, what's left? Just a very quiet, very boring room. And nobody wants that! Not me, anyway. I like a bit of life in the room! Always have. Truly.Oh, just let her show you! You’ll be left burning all by yourself in hell, you absolute devil!

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Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#145 ·
Raymond King47 said:First big move—how did we actually show we can stick together? Just screaming at each other from 200 yards away while we can't even get close to one another... basically nothing.

Second big move—was it even necessary? It should've happened ages ago... so again, zero progress.

Bottom line... we haven't done anything and clearly won't. There’s no actual game plan for fans to take on the mob... sadly. And yet you guys still act like we proved ourselves yesterday.

What, you thought we were gonna walk through town hugging? I don't get what you expected.

The first step is just the start of the road, and a kick in the ass counts too...

Obviously there isn't a plan, but there will be if things get real. Though, I bet it won't happen because politicians will just handle it themselves...
Jonathan Gonzalez3 Jonathan Gonzalez3 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#146 ·
Every long journey starts with that very first step, and honestly, last night was that first step for us.

"The Black Knights are shouting back: 'Whether they're city slickers or outcasts, whether it's fists or feet, bottles or boards, it's all for our Dodgers!' The flares just keep going, one after another."
These softies wouldn't know the difference between a light touch and a heavy blow if it hit them in the face.

And you guys are definitely going to hell for insulting those outsiders like that.🤣🤣🤣
Raymond King47 Raymond King47 Member
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joined Feb 2012
#147 ·
Jesse Campbell said:What did you think was going to happen, like we’d all be hugging it out in the streets? I honestly don't get what you were expecting here.

Look, the first step is just getting started, even if that means getting kicked in the ass to get moving...

Of course there isn't a formal plan in place, but one will definitely exist if things ever get that desperate. Though, honestly, I have a feeling we won't need one since politicians usually end up handling the heavy lifting anyway...

You really think we haven't needed to act already?? Look at how much we've been fighting against the local gangs and organized crime... what have we actually achieved together as fans?? I'll give you an answer without wasting any ink... it's been a massive, resounding nothing... and that's just the reality of it.

And just so we're clear, I wasn't expecting some big group hug or anything—nobody's looking for that—but I was hoping for something more... and if you want to be real about it, yesterday's performance didn't come close to anything meaningful.
Samuel Garcia6 Samuel Garcia6 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2014
#148 ·
Looking at this objectively, you can't say nothing happened. For the first time, most of the Black Knights and the Trojans actually spoke their minds about the people running the league. The ice has been broken. Could they have done it better? Of course.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#149 ·
Raymond King47 said:You think we haven't needed this already?? How much have we fought against the gangs and the mob?? What have we fans actually done TOGETHER?? I’ll give you an answer without wasting any breath... absolutely nothing... that's just the reality.

Look, I wasn't expecting a group hug or anything, nobody expects that, but I did expect something... and what happened yesterday? If you're being real, it was nothing.

I mean, what were you even looking for? It's not my job to run the show, but if the goal was just hoping for a few random moments where we stand together instead of actual planning, then yeah, mission accomplished.

Hopefully this is just the start. If things get heavy later, maybe next time we'll actually do something more than just shouting chants.
Harold Kim5 Harold Kim5 Newcomer
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joined May 2010
#150 ·
shadowgardener10 said:Ever since that peak summer back in February 2007, I’ve made it a point to attend every single home derby in the South, and I have to say... yesterday was easily the most pathetic display of support I’ve witnessed in all those years. I mean, credit where it's due—the players really gave it their all—but it’s painfully obvious they just can't spark any kind of atmosphere here.

I left the South feeling pretty demoralized after yesterday. The Los Angeles Dodgers played like cowards, and the crowd support? Just abysmal. It feels like there’s zero awareness or passion from the fans lately.

The Wildcats actually looked like a much more serious organization than us yesterday. 🙂

Until we find a proper replacement for John Smith—someone who actually wants to step up to the plate—we’re just going to keep dropping games one by one until we end up at the bottom of the barrel with teams like Canada and whatever else is left...
Raymond King47 Raymond King47 Member
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joined Feb 2012
#151 ·
Jesse Campbell said:I mean, what exactly were you expecting? I’m not exactly in a leadership role where I get to call the shots on organizing stuff, but if the whole point was just hoping we'd show up together once in a while instead of having a formal plan, then I guess we got what we wanted.

I really hope this is just the start of things, because if we actually need more support down the road, I'm hoping next time involves more than just shouting chants from the stands.

Nah, I’m not just talking about yesterday's game or the big rivalry match, I mean just generally speaking... though honestly, you know how it goes, neither our crowd nor the guys over at the cargo docks are ever going to step up for anything bigger than some basic chanting... that's just the sad reality of it all... but hey, maybe a change in the wind will blow through and finally motivate people to do something for the good of the whole community.
And where did you disappear to on Friday? Or did I just totally miss you? 🤣
Kate Ward50 Kate Ward50 Member
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joined Sep 2011
#152 ·
Harold Kim5 said:Until we find a real successor for John Smith—someone actually willing to step up—we’re just going to keep dropping games until we hit that stage against Canada and the rest of them...

It feels like the team is just looking for itself...
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#153 ·
Raymond King47 said:I'm not just talking about yesterday's game or the big rivalry, I mean generally... look, you know as well as I do that neither our guys nor those cargo shippers are gonna do anything more than shout some slogans. That's just how it is. Maybe if a strong wind blows through Aurora, people might actually start caring about what's good for everyone.
And hey, where'd you vanish to on Friday? Or did I miss something? 🤣

Sounds like the wind is blowing hard in Aurora, you seem pretty salty. 🤣

I headed home, a couple of beers wiped me out. 😁
Dana Morales10 Dana Morales10 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2012
#154 ·
Jesse Campbell said:Seems like the wind is blowing the wrong way in Aurora today, you seem a bit grumpy. 🤣

I was heading home when one too many beers finally caught up with me. 😁

Which team is he even supposed to root for now? With a team like that dropping into the lower leagues, everything is just a mess. 😍
Mark Reyes2 Mark Reyes2 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#155 ·
Henry Parker46 said:The main thing is that we proved we can actually pull together, and it's just as vital that things didn't descend into the total disaster those vultures were praying for.

🤷

Maybe it would have made more noise if things had gone south...
I feel like I know exactly how your mind works—and look, I'm not saying you're wrong to think that way—but unfortunately, when it comes to these joint actions, the message (check our messages from yesterday at the top) is basically non-existent.
Not a single mainstream news outlet has even breathed a word about it today, unless you count the "brilliant" performance by Sammir and the fact that soccer finally took center stage.
If we’re being objective, there are really only two ways to handle this.
First—and in my opinion, still the superior route—is boycotting games and organizing actual protests or various grassroots movements (you know, like the yellow Peristyle stuff, the sheep incidents, or the posters on the overpasses...).
The second option is... well, letting the money flow straight into the pockets of the establishment, and we all know exactly what that implies.
Ethan Palmer57 Ethan Palmer57 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2012
#156 ·
There’s one way to handle this—and if you ask me, it’s still the best move—which is to boycott the games entirely and start organizing actual protests and stunts (you know, things like painting the stadium yellow, bringing sheep onto the field, or even slapping posters all over the highway overpasses...).
The second option is-- hitting them right where it hurts by cutting off their funding, and we all know exactly what that implies. 👍

Give 'em hell!
Larry Campbell33 Larry Campbell33 Active Member
102 messages
joined Feb 2012
#157 ·
Man, the crowd in the stands yesterday seriously got under my skin, it wasn't even about how bad the chanting was
it’s more about the people who just flat-out refuse to get behind the group
I honestly don't get why everyone's being so stubborn for no reason, especially since the leaders were practically shouting through three megaphones
everyone else is always making noise and calling out, but the crew is trying their best and people just don't want to
sing along... honestly, the fan spirit among 80 percent of the people in the South Stand was basically non-existent yesterday
Dana Morales10 Dana Morales10 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Sep 2012
#158 ·
Look, you have to realize that not everyone who travels for an away game is there just to be some hardcore ultra obsessed with everything
. I’m pretty sure there’s a huge crowd—especially when you’re rolling into town with over 2,000 fans—who would honestly rather just sit in the regular stands at a place like Dodger Stadium and watch the game. But because of how things are set up (and we all know how those situations go), they end up stuck in the supporter section instead.

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John Brown30 John Brown30 Regular
266 messages
joined Sep 2011
#159 ·
Harold Kim5 said:Until we find a real replacement for Lekić—someone actually willing to step up—we’re just going to keep dropping games until we end up like Canada and the rest of them...

🙂 Unbelievable. It used to be that Canada and their crew would sell themselves out just to chase old legends who hadn't done anything in years. Now it's the exact opposite: a bunch of older fans who stay active are being pushed to the sidelines instead of being front and center.😉
Henry Parker46 Henry Parker46 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2012
#160 ·
Mark Reyes2 said:🤷

Maybe it would have made more noise if it actually happened.
I know exactly how you think, and look, I’m not saying I disagree or that your logic is flawed, but let’s be honest: these "collective actions" we’ve been doing? The message (check yesterday's posts at the top) hasn't landed at all.
Not a single mainstream media outlet has mentioned a thing today, aside from praising Sammir's brilliant tactical move and how football has finally taken center stage.
If we're being objective, there are really only two ways to go about this.
The first—and in my opinion, still the better option—is boycotting matches and organizing actual protests and various stunts (you know, things like the yellow peristyle, the sheep thing, or patching up those highway overpasses...).
The second is cutting off the money supply to the ultras, and well, we all know what that implies.

It would be better if these actions and messages resulted in "nothing" rather than having them turn into total garbage fueled by some bought-and-paid-for media machine...

Boycott.

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