Did you hear Natalie at the Oliver Hudson concert?

It’s a solid thread, honestly; there’s plenty to pick up here if you actually bother to look. For instance, one could argue that having a flawless vocal range isn't necessarily the deciding factor in what makes a singer great. Take Marijan Ban, for example—he possesses a certain grit that puts someone like Natalie ahead, mostly because she seems more preoccupied with looking at her dinner than staying on key 😁

I honestly find myself questioning my own sanity 🙄 . I've spent the better part of the day trying to explain to a few idiots that having a "good voice" isn't actually the most important thing about being a great singer. It’s such a blatant, obvious, and frankly trivial fact—it's practically baked into the definition of the craft itself. So, really: 👋 [(c) lebowski].

Look, it’s no wonder you can’t wrap your head around this, mostly because what you’re insisting on simply isn't true. A solid voice is absolutely fundamental to good singing, and those students you cited to back up your point are frankly terrible singers—with the sole exception of Mick Jagger, who actually HAS a real voice (or at least used to).

Beyond that, calling people stupid or fools is just plain rude. 👋

Jason Morgan2 said:You’re telling me that me, Lebowski, and Drita can't even write a nursery rhyme? Give me a break.
All three of us could write better than John Williams. And that guy thinks he's such a composer.
That whole vibe is just too Southern—I wouldn't want you getting all mixed up in that mess.

Who even brought up Drita? The guy was just praising her vocals and saying she absolutely crushed it. 😁

What's with this "Southern" comment... are you trying to say John Williams wrote the music while someone else handled the lyrics? 😁 Or did you just roll out of bed on the wrong side today and decide to start talking nonsense? 😁

Betty Bennett10 said:Yeah, this thread is actually gold. You can learn a ton of stuff here if you pay attention. Like, for starters, having a "perfect" voice isn't even the most important part of being a great singer. Take Marijan Ban, for example—he’s a way better vocalist than Natalie. I mean, come on, she spends half her performance rolling her eyes at her dinner plate! 😁

Look, Betty Bennett10, you’re totally missing the point here... this isn't just about the food. 😁

Look, we’re talking about spoiled behavior here. You know the type—nothing is ever quite good enough for her. She expects everyone to be running errands around her like she's some kind of VIP, always demanding that everything be tailor-made just for her. Honestly, she acts like she's... Primadonna. 😁

The petty, small-minded responses from the average American listener really show you where we're at musically right now. You can just feel the lack of depth and the obsession with superficiality in every single comment—it's honestly loud and clear. They did a great job, though. Maybe Anthony should write a column about it.
Here you go, Anthony, a title for you:

The goose that carried the seagull.

As far as I'm concerned, this uninspired debate is over. I'd much rather see someone with actual weight behind them, like Dorothy or BHD, taking the opposing side—then maybe we’d actually hear some real counterarguments instead of all this mindless shock and ego.

It was obvious from the start that this isn't just about the music itself; 😁it’s just that I find it impossible to see how Natalie Portman's personality has any actual bearing on her vocal performance.

It brings to mind that time I mentioned to a friend how much I enjoyed a track by Din Dvornik, only for her to immediately pivot to—you know—mentioning his struggles with addiction. 😁As if my appreciation for the melody somehow required me to marry the man.

For instance, I constantly have Diana Krall playing in my car, yet I have absolutely no clue who she is as a person; I don't know a single thing about her life—she might even be more high-maintenance than our Natalie. But frankly, it doesn't matter to me; I’ve never felt the need to personally identify with the people behind the microphone.

Claiming someone lacks vocal talent simply because they’re a spoiled, airheaded brat with nothing but empty space between their ears is certainly one way to make an argument, I suppose.👍 Bob!

Her remaining flaws are simply that she’s far too young and possesses an absolutely magnificent voice—because, naturally, a voice is meant for something other than singing, isn't it?

Betty Bennett10 said:Saying someone can't sing because they're just some spoiled, brainless brat is... well, quite the brilliant argument, isn't it?👍 Bavo!

And who's actually saying that, sweetheart? I don't know—maybe we should stick to four-letter words and simple sentences for the folks struggling to keep up? 🙂

Oh, you sweet summer child. You’re actually out here claiming that Natalie's hollow character is what dictates how she delivered that song we're discussing. You're essentially arguing that her singing isn't driven by her actual vocal talent, but rather by the empty space where a personality should be.

dustyscout53 said:And who exactly is making those claims, dear child? I suppose I should have stuck to four-letter words and basic subject-verb-object sentence structures just to accommodate those with more... limited reading comprehension abilities. 🙂

..or perhaps you could just end this entire debate right now, just like you suggested earlier?!? 😉

Just kidding, Betty Bennett10 😁

I bet none of these high-brow elitists would have a single problem with Natalie if she hadn't just absolutely floored the entire crowd with that performance 😁

These "intellectuals" without any actual substance are just people who are terrified of populism... or anything else the "common man" actually enjoys. It's not that they're against global success—far from it. They just need to be able to claim they "discovered" the singer or the band while they were still playing dive bars for three people, before the rest of the world even knew they existed. That way, the fame just serves as proof of how right they were all along 😁

Unfortunately for them, Natalie wasn't some hidden gem they stumbled upon in some trendy underground club where the pretentious critics hang out... if she had been, they’d be writing columns saying, "this kid has everything it takes to be a superstar one day." But damn, she started her run on the New York Times, and everyone watches that... an elitist has to distance themselves from talent like that because massive, mainstream spectacles are beneath them. To them, it’s just "off-the-rack" culture. And they don't hate mass-market stuff because it's bad—hell, it can be top-tier quality—but listen, if EVERYONE can buy it and wear it, it's not "exclusive" enough for their ego 🙂 😁

dustyscout53 said:As far as I'm concerned, this mindless back-and-forth is over. Honestly, I’d much rather see someone actually important—like Drita or the UN—defending the other side. Maybe then people would actually listen to some real counterarguments instead of just sitting here acting shocked and blowing smoke up everyone's rear.

Aha, so what you're saying is you need a "big shot" to give you permission to respect an argument? Wow. 😁

Alright, fine, here's a "big shot" argument for you: Runjić heard Natalie singing and practically begged her to belt out Seagull. 😁

Keith James812 said:Oh, I see. So you need an opinion from someone of "massive stature" before you’ll even consider an argument valid?😁

Fine, let me offer you one such high-caliber argument then: Runjić heard Natalie singing and invited her to perform Galeb.😁

Good grief, you actually sang—as if mentioning Runjić changes anything at all.
But, I suppose I agree regarding this idea of "stature." You mean those musical "icons" (read: absolute nobodies) who have the audacity to call themselves "one of the most talented young artists" while performing at Madison Square Garden?!? If we are discussing journalistic "freedom," then my apologies to the gentleman. Otherwise, true legends don't talk like that—especially not ones who are clearly past their prime and nowhere near being part of that supposed group.
P.S. Though, I will admit, the man is quite witty, I guess. :-)

fadedfalcon60 said:Dammit, you’re stuck on it too—it’s always Runjić, isn't it?

I mean, who else am I supposed to talk about when we're discussing the galeb? 😁

I have seriously never heard you belt out a galeb song, and honestly, I’d love to... wouldn't that be the perfect excuse for us to finally grab a drink and hang out soon? 😉

What kind of topic 🙄 😁
I would just like to point out a few rather amusing observations:

1) Leb used to watch Story Super News religiously—he even watched it at home. 😁

2) Leb i drito claim to "know" Natalie and her supposed "character" quite well.

3) That much-vaunted "personality" which Natalie is so sorely lacking was actually manufactured by a certain winner who, even if he lived three lifetimes, could never deliver a performance remotely close to what Natalien produces.

There is more to it, of course... I might also add that when it comes to shows of this nature, one shouldn't expect true quality to triumph; instead, it’s always a contest of who can milk the most "personality" out of the situation.

And as for Natalie's personality? People have likely seen through it using the same tactics used during Miss USA pageants. You simply ask a woman if she would save hungry children in Africa. If she says yes, suddenly she has a wonderful personality. 😁

Keith James812 said:Who else would I talk about when we're discussing the galeb?😁

I've honestly never heard you sing the galeb, and I’d actually love to... isn't that just the perfect excuse for us to get together sooner rather than later?😉

Well, look, that’s one aspect of this that nobody here has even touched upon. Have you noticed that the galeb doesn't actually get played at parties or clubs all that often? I suppose that's because the galeb isn't just some simple three-chord song. If you try to play it exactly like the original, it’s actually quite complex. 🙂 But don't you worry, I know it well enough, so I'll play it for you. ;-) As if there's anything I wouldn't do for you! Even Natali dizdar stood up for her.😁 😁 😁 🙄 👋

fadedfalcon60 said:See, that’s the part everyone here seems to be overlooking. Have you noticed how you don't hear galeb played at parties or stuff all that often? It’s because galeb isn't just some basic three-chord song—if you try to play it exactly like the record, it’s actually pretty tricky. 🙂 But hey, don't sweat it, I know the tune so I'll play it for you. -) Like there's anything I wouldn't do for you, right? Even Natali dizdar stood up for her 😁 😁 😁 🙄 👋

Man, my screen is practically melting from all this cheesiness... 🤮 😁

I guess people figure out if someone has a "Natalien" personality using the same tactics they use during Miss USA pageants. You just ask a woman if she'd save starving kids in Africa. If she says yes, boom—she's got a great personality.

Dabogda he married her, then you could meet her yourself. 😁

walter said:I wish he'd just marry her already, then you'd actually get to know who she is. 😁

Thanks, but I’ll pass. Marriage requires actual personality, after all. 😁

I'm honestly at a loss for how to respond to you; your entire argument seems to hinge on the idea that the woman lacks intelligence. If you've met her, fine—that's your impression. But if you haven't, then you're just making assumptions based on some superficial analysis you performed while scrolling through Supernova.

In reality, none of that even matters. If this were an actual talent competition, either she or Nora would win easily; these guys aren't even in the same league.
But of course, SSN is just a calculated scheme designed to boost revenue through Supernova sales, advertising, Cole, and all that nonsense... They're just looking for someone with enough personality 😁 to hawk those products, grab a little bit of fame along the way, and maybe build a career if they're lucky.

Singing? Vocal ability? That's a secondary concern.