EU, June 25–27, "Miami street Circuit

1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing 1:37.587
2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing +00.075
3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren Racing +00.382
4 Fernando Alonso Ferrari +00.488
5 Felipe Massa Ferrari +00.540
6 Robert Kubica Renault +00.550
7 Jenson Button McLaren Racing +00.623
8 Nico Hülkenberg Williams Racing +00.841
9 Rubens Barrichello Williams Racing +00.841
10 Vitaly Petrov Renault +00.936
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11 Sebastien Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso +00.999
12 Nico Rosberg Mercedes-AMG Petronas +01.040
13 Adrian Sutil Force India +01.264
14 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India +01.297
15 Michael Schumacher Mercedes-AMG Petronas +01.647
16 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber +01.677
17 Jaime Alguersuari Scuderia Toro Rosso +01.871
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18 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber +01.756
19 Jarno Trulli Lotus F1 Team +03.071
20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus F1 Team +03.295
21 Lucas di Grassi Virgin Racing +04.499
22 Timo Glock Virgin Racing +04.553
23 Karun Chandhok Hispania +05.013
24 Bruno Senna Hispania +05.264

stormybadger8 said:Yeah, right. Ferrari fans will be waving furiously at Red Bull while they're getting lapped by them.😁
Nico Rosberg too—even if you try twice as hard, he'll lap you by two full circles.🤣

😁 Amanda Kelly, is it still funny? 🤣

Christian Williams61 said:I’m honestly gonna lose my mind watching Red Bull Racing—they just keep pulling that same old 1-2 finish in qualifying over and over again 🤣 🤣

Yeah, Red Bull Racing is absolutely rewriting the history books with these kinds of results in qualifying. But honestly, because they're performing at this level, I think we really need to take that masterclass from Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel with a grain of salt when comparing them directly to someone like Lewis Hamilton or Fernando Alonso. It’s all about context. 👍

Thomas Morales13 said:Yeah, Red Bull Racing is absolutely rewriting the history books with these kinds of results in qualifying. But honestly, because they're performing at this level, I think we really need to take that masterclass from Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel with a grain of salt when comparing them directly to someone like Lewis Hamilton or Fernando Alonso. It’s all about context. 👍

Lewis Hamilton is still hanging in there, but man, Fernando Alonso is looking absolutely terrible. 🤷
It’s not even about the car. Honestly, Ferrari is miles ahead of McLaren right now. We all saw how they handled themselves in Monaco, and if you want proof, just look at Massa. Has he even managed a qualifying result this good all season? 🤷 Honestly, I can’t even remember the last time he was actually faster than Jenson Button, let alone breathing down Lewis Hamilton's neck like that. At the end of the day, it's pretty obvious: Alonso just can't handle the pressure when he's racing in front of his own home crowd. 🤔

stormybadger8 said:Lewis Hamilton is still hanging in there, but man, Fernando Alonso is looking absolutely terrible. 🤷
It’s not even about the car. Honestly, Ferrari is miles ahead of McLaren right now. We all saw how they handled themselves in Monaco, and if you want proof, just look at Massa. Has he even managed a qualifying result this good all season? 🤷 Honestly, I can’t even remember the last time he was actually faster than Jenson Button, let alone breathing down Lewis Hamilton's neck like that. At the end of the day, it's pretty obvious: Alonso just can't handle the pressure when he's racing in front of his own home crowd. 🤔

And you tell them, right? And then you actually make it out alive. 🙏

It seems there's a bit of a hitch, as the Ferrari exhausts didn't quite deliver the performance boost they were aiming for. 🤣

Well, you can clearly see they’ve managed to outpace Jenson Button 🤣🤣, and since McLaren Racing showed up to this race with basically zero updates 😁, the heavy artillery is already being prepped for the Silverstone Circuit🙏

Christian Williams61 said:And you tell them, right? And then you actually make it out alive. 🙏

🤷 What’s even being argued here? Honestly, what has Fernando Alonso actually accomplished at the Miami Grand Prix Circuit so far? 🤷

To me, this whole thing feels off. I don't buy that Felipe Massa suddenly became this much better compared to the rest of the season out of nowhere. It just feels like Massa is being ranked way too high compared to everyone else. Logically, based on the results we've seen, Alonso should be sitting in at least second place.

With age, Alonso seems to be developing a rather unfortunate tendency to crumble when the pressure mounts. 🤷 Back during those golden years at Renault, he drove that car without making a single mistake.
Judging by the practice sessions, I was honestly expecting more from him, and frankly, something decent from Rosberg too. Instead, we got this absolute embarrassment. 😂

stormybadger8 said:🤷 What’s even being argued here? Honestly, what has Fernando Alonso actually accomplished at the Miami Grand Prix Circuit so far? 🤷

To me, this whole thing feels off. I don't buy that Felipe Massa suddenly became this much better compared to the rest of the season out of nowhere. It just feels like Massa is being ranked way too high compared to everyone else. Logically, based on the results we've seen, Alonso should be sitting in at least second place.

Joshua Newman2 said:With age, Alonso seems to be developing a rather unfortunate tendency to crumble when the pressure mounts. 🤷 Back during those golden years at Renault, he drove that car without making a single mistake.
Judging by the practice sessions, I was honestly expecting more from him, and frankly, something decent from Rosberg too. Instead, we got this absolute embarrassment. 😂

What kind of pressure are you guys even talking about? Look, everyone knows Ferrari isn't the top team right now, so you couldn't realistically expect pole or even a second-place finish, let alone more. 🤷 I mean, if Alonso had won every single race until now, then sure, there would be pressure to prove himself on home soil. But since that's not the case, I don't think you two know what you're talking about. It's just the same old story every race weekend: everyone just jumping on the bandwagon to throw stones at Alonso. 👍

It’s all coming apart at the seams, honestly....🤣

Man, it’s honestly hilarious seeing how Lewis Hamilton reacts whenever he spots Gumbek closing in on him during a race 🙂 🤦 ☕

Lewis Hamilton 🤣🤣 😍

Christian Williams61 said:What kind of pressure are you guys even talking about? Look, everyone knows Ferrari isn't the top team right now, so you couldn't realistically expect pole or even a second-place finish, let alone more. 🤷 I mean, if Alonso had won every single race until now, then sure, there would be pressure to prove himself on home soil. But since that's not the case, I don't think you two know what you're talking about. It's just the same old story every race weekend: everyone just jumping on the bandwagon to throw stones at Alonso. 👍

Alonso is sitting near the top of the championship standings, so calling his season a failure is a bit of a reach. However, when you consider the miracles he pulled off in that half-broken Renault (let's not even mention that win in 😁), it's obvious he isn't seeing those same opportunities in the Ferrari. Personally, I think he's one of the elite drivers on the grid alongside Lewis Hamilton and Robert Kubica (and yes, I’ll admit I have a soft spot for the latter), but I also can't help thinking that if he were still riding with the form he showed back in, say, 2005 or 2006, his current points tally would look much more impressive.

Joshua Newman2 said:Alonso is sitting near the top of the championship standings, so calling his season a failure is a bit of a reach. However, when you consider the miracles he pulled off in that half-broken Renault (let's not even mention that win in 😁), it's obvious he isn't seeing those same opportunities in the Ferrari. Personally, I think he's one of the elite drivers on the grid alongside Lewis Hamilton and Robert Kubica (and yes, I’ll admit I have a soft spot for the latter), but I also can't help thinking that if he were still riding with the form he showed back in, say, 2005 or 2006, his current points tally would look much more impressive.

Renault was on massive form during those two years, and Alonso absolutely crushed it in a car and a setup where the whole team was basically catering to him and his wins—he just looked brilliant in that machine. After that, though, following the whole McLaren era, he dipped a little bit 🤷. It’s not like he totally fell off a cliff, but he settled into this slightly lower level of performance, which is where he’s been ever since. He had flashes of greatness at Renault, sure, but people just chalked it all up to magic. Which, honestly, is probably true.

It seems to me that things at Ferrari just haven't clicked together the way they did during those winning years at Renault, and that's why we see these moments where he messes up (totally pointless mistakes, 😠 really) because he's clearly trying to squeeze every last drop out of himself and the car, even when it won't go 😁. Saying he cracks under pressure is just nonsense—it's stupid. The only time that comes up is when people try to mock him, and there are plenty of armchair critics out there who will jump on that just because they don't like him as a person 🤦(and I'm not talking about you, Joshua)

Maria Nelson2 said:Lewis Hamilton 🤣🤣 😍

our little buddy Lewis Hamilton 👋 🙄

Christian Williams61 said:What kind of pressure are you guys even talking about? Look, everyone knows Ferrari isn't the top team right now, so you couldn't realistically expect pole or even a second-place finish, let alone more. 🤷 I mean, if Alonso had won every single race until now, then sure, there would be pressure to prove himself on home soil. But since that's not the case, I don't think you two know what you're talking about. It's just the same old story every race weekend: everyone just jumping on the bandwagon to throw stones at Alonso. 👍

First, you've got Fernando Alonso. Second, it’s Sebastian Vettel. Third, Jenson Button. Fourth, Mark Webber. Fifth, Lewis Hamilton. And sixth? Grandfather is lost in the Forest. 😬🤣

What's with you bringing up Alonso every single race? What's your deal?🤷

The only thing that actually improved after his stint with McLaren was the team's budget..👎

Between him and de la Rosa, you've basically got two clueless guys caught up in that old Mosley era chaos, and that’s where the mess starts...

But there's a more significant point this time around; without any extra budget compared to the competition, without those old national biases, and with the track officials finally doing their jobs somewhat decently, Ferrari is playing on a level playing field just like everyone else, and from what I can see, they aren't exactly thriving under those circumstances.☕ It makes you wonder, because last time they had some proprietary Ferrari invention that everyone else ended up copying—you know, first it was the F-duct, then the double diffuser, then that Red Bull Racing exhaust system, and the last thing from Ferrari was that banned wheel thing...🤷

Michael Lee4 said:1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing 1:37.587
2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing +00.075
3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren Racing +00.382
4 Fernando Alonso Ferrari +00.488
5 Felipe Massa Ferrari +00.540
6 Robert Kubica Renault +00.550
7 Jenson Button McLaren Racing +00.623
8 Nico Hülkenberg Williams Racing +00.841
9 Rubens Barrichello Williams Racing +00.841
10 Vitaly Petrov Renault +00.936
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11 Sebastien Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso +00.999
12 Nico Rosberg Mercedes-AMG Petronas +01.040
13 Adrian Sutil Force India +01.264
14 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India +01.297
15 Michael Schumacher Mercedes-AMG Petronas +01.647
16 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber +01.677
17 Jaime Alguersuari Scuderia Toro Rosso +01.871
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18 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber +01.756
19 Jarno Trulli Lotus F1 Team +03.071
20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus F1 Team +03.295
21 Lucas di Grassi Virgin Racing +04.499
22 Timo Glock Virgin Racing +04.553
23 Karun Chandhok Hispania +05.013
24 Bruno Senna Hispania +05.264

Wait a second, just noticed this—both Williams drivers have the exact same time.😲
Is this just a typo or a copy-paste fail?🤷
What logic did they use to put Hülkenberg at 8 and Barrichello at 9?🤷

Maria Nelson2 said:The only thing that actually improved after his stint with McLaren was the team's budget..👎

Between him and de la Rosa, you've basically got two clueless guys caught up in that old Mosley era chaos, and that’s where the mess starts...

But there's a more significant point this time around; without any extra budget compared to the competition, without those old national biases, and with the track officials finally doing their jobs somewhat decently, Ferrari is playing on a level playing field just like everyone else, and from what I can see, they aren't exactly thriving under those circumstances.☕ It makes you wonder, because last time they had some proprietary Ferrari invention that everyone else ended up copying—you know, first it was the F-duct, then the double diffuser, then that Red Bull Racing exhaust system, and the last thing from Ferrari was that banned wheel thing...🤷

Yeah, Maria Nelson2, you sure know how to write. 👍 It's actually possible to have a real conversation with you 🙏--really, it is.
Keep your opinions to yourself.. Alonso is total trash as a driver 🙏 Exactly! Everyone's obsessed with Lewis Hamilton. Pure integrity and character at its peak right there 🙏 🎉

Was Ferrari even good last year? Nope, right? So suddenly they're terrible just because they have Alonso? Come on, give me a break ☕