EU, June 25–27, "Miami street Circuit

Jonathan Booth5 said:It seems there's a bit of a hitch, as the Ferrari exhausts didn't quite deliver the performance boost they were aiming for. 🤣

Take it easy, my friend... the race isn't even until tomorrow... and we still have plenty of laps left in the season ahead of us...

stormybadger8 said:First, you've got Fernando Alonso. Second, it’s Sebastian Vettel. Third, Jenson Button. Fourth, Mark Webber. Fifth, Lewis Hamilton. And sixth? Grandfather is lost in the Forest. 😬🤣

What's with you bringing up Alonso every single race? What's your deal?🤷

Last race, of course, everyone was obsessing over how weird it was that Alonso even made the podium... For Monaco, the debate started with how lucky he got with the SC, and then shifted into calling him an idiot because he managed to overtake Grandfather. You guys always have a bone to pick with him. Honestly, just enjoy the show. I don't know what to tell you.🤷

stormybadger8 said:Wait a second, just noticed this—both Williams drivers have the exact same time.😲
Is this just a typo or a copy-paste fail?🤷
What logic did they use to put Hülkenberg at 8 and Barrichello at 9?🤷

You noticed it too—the official timing pages are showing the exact same numbers. It looks like they’ve gone ahead and applied the Bjesomar standard. 😁

Christian Williams61, let’s be realistic here. There isn't actually that much heat on Fernando Alonso—aside from the usual whining from people who can't handle his attitude, though I have very little doubt regarding his raw driving talent. The real targets of scrutiny are Jenson Button, because people constantly question if he actually has the skill, and Sebastian Vettel, because they argue whether he even has the ability to turn that talent into results.

Honestly, this just feels stupid. Either Ferrari steps up their game or Alonso stays stuck in neutral. Or is the plan just for Massa to suddenly become a superstar? It makes zero sense. This is supposed to be Alonso's home turf, yet lately, Massa has been absolutely tearing him apart, which is pretty ugly to watch. And now, out of nowhere, he’s pulling ahead 🤷
If we were talking about the US, I might get it—it's Massa's backyard, nothing surprising there. But this? This is just baffling 🤷

It's just weird. There's this huge gap between Hamilton and Button, but then this tiny, strange little gap between Alonso and Massa 🤷
Everything else seems mostly normal, except for the Mercedes slump. Actually, given how much Mercedes has dropped, Williams stepping up makes total sense. They look like they've made a massive leap forward since they jumped past Force India quite convincingly. I really hope this isn't just a fluke and they keep consistently beating Mercedes and Force India

It would be pretty sweet to see old Rubens thriving while he laps his Grandfather by a full circuit 🤣

stormybadger8 said:Honestly, this just feels stupid. Either Ferrari steps up their game or Alonso stays stuck in neutral. Or is the plan just for Massa to suddenly become a superstar? It makes zero sense. This is supposed to be Alonso's home turf, yet lately, Massa has been absolutely tearing him apart, which is pretty ugly to watch. And now, out of nowhere, he’s pulling ahead 🤷
If we were talking about the US, I might get it—it's Massa's backyard, nothing surprising there. But this? This is just baffling 🤷

It's just weird. There's this huge gap between Hamilton and Button, but then this tiny, strange little gap between Alonso and Massa 🤷
Everything else seems mostly normal, except for the Mercedes slump. Actually, given how much Mercedes has dropped, Williams stepping up makes total sense. They look like they've made a massive leap forward since they jumped past Force India quite convincingly. I really hope this isn't just a fluke and they keep consistently beating Mercedes and Force India

It would be pretty sweet to see old Rubens thriving while he laps his Grandfather by a full circuit 🤣

Button mentioned he overshot the final corner during the flying lap. 🤷

stormybadger8 said:Wait a second, just noticed this—both Williams drivers have the exact same time.😲
Is this just a typo or a copy-paste fail?🤷
What logic did they use to put Hülkenberg at 8 and Barrichello at 9?🤷

Honestly, I can't help but wonder why Rubens Barrichello isn't just stuck playing the eternal number two forever. 😬

Christian Williams61 said:Yeah, Maria Nelson2, you sure know how to write. 👍 It's actually possible to have a real conversation with you 🙏--really, it is.
Keep your opinions to yourself.. Alonso is total trash as a driver 🙏 Exactly! Everyone's obsessed with Lewis Hamilton. Pure integrity and character at its peak right there 🙏 🎉

Was Ferrari even good last year? Nope, right? So suddenly they're terrible just because they have Alonso? Come on, give me a break ☕

I don't recall ever saying Alonso was a bad driver—you're putting words in my mouth again, even though I've been pretty clear about his actual skills 🤷 by the way... I said he was being shady, not that he couldn't drive ☕

stormybadger8 said:First, you've got Fernando Alonso. Second, it’s Sebastian Vettel. Third, Jenson Button. Fourth, Mark Webber. Fifth, Lewis Hamilton. And sixth? Grandfather is lost in the Forest. 😬🤣

What's with you bringing up Alonso every single race? What's your deal?🤷

Zaaakon! 🤣

Maria Nelson2 said:Honestly, I can't help but wonder why Rubens Barrichello isn't just stuck playing the eternal number two forever. 😬

Does it really have to be 🤣

he probably signs everything as Rubens No2 Barrichello 🤣
so the FIA just took it as the official rule 😂

Maria Nelson2 said:I don't recall ever saying Alonso was a bad driver—you're putting words in my mouth again, even though I've been pretty clear about his actual skills 🤷 by the way... I said he was being shady, not that he couldn't drive ☕

And honestly, what are you even judging him by if all you can see are his driving stats and whatever little bit of character he shows right before or after a race? ☕
I really don't have the energy to argue with you—you're such a stubborn McLaren fanatic. It’s like trying to convince a horse it’s actually a donkey (not saying you're a horse right now, wouldn't want to be ☕ ),

Joshua Newman2 said:You noticed it too—the official timing pages are showing the exact same numbers. It looks like they’ve gone ahead and applied the Bjesomar standard. 😁

Christian Williams61, let’s be realistic here. There isn't actually that much heat on Fernando Alonso—aside from the usual whining from people who can't handle his attitude, though I have very little doubt regarding his raw driving talent. The real targets of scrutiny are Jenson Button, because people constantly question if he actually has the skill, and Sebastian Vettel, because they argue whether he even has the ability to turn that talent into results.

Don't lecture me. I know how to read what's being said.

stormybadger8 said:Wait a second, just noticed this—both Williams drivers have the exact same time.😲
Is this just a typo or a copy-paste fail?🤷
What logic did they use to put Hülkenberg at 8 and Barrichello at 9?🤷

To the person who posts the time first. 😉

Maria Nelson2 said:Honestly, I can't help but wonder why Rubens Barrichello isn't just stuck playing the eternal number two forever. 😬

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Christian Williams61 said:Don't lecture me. I know how to read what's being said.

Clearly you have no clue. 😉
Most of what was posted were straight facts, which Alonso fans stubbornly deny, claiming it’s all got nothing to do with anything and is just the result of his "super driving."

Look, Alonso is an incredible driver, no doubt about it. But for some reason, he just seems to be falling apart at the seams or is struggling big time at Ferrari. Honestly, I can't wrap my head around these mediocre results and inexplicable mistakes when the car clearly has the potential. 🤷

Personally, I think the Ferrari looks way better than the Renault (maybe I'm biased), yet Robert Kubica is barely trailing behind Alonso. It gives me this nagging feeling that if Lojzek had stayed at Renault, he’d probably have more points right now and be in a better spot than he is at Ferrari. So, the million-dollar question remains: who's actually to blame? Is it Alonso or is it Ferrari? 🤷

Christian Williams61 said:And honestly, what are you even judging him by if all you can see are his driving stats and whatever little bit of character he shows right before or after a race? ☕
I really don't have the energy to argue with you—you're such a stubborn McLaren fanatic. It’s like trying to convince a horse it’s actually a donkey (not saying you're a horse right now, wouldn't want to be ☕ ),

🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the laugh, I actually got a good chuckle out of that one. 😂

Maria Nelson2 said:🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the laugh, I actually got a good chuckle out of that one. 😂

And hey, the last one laughing is always the one laughing the hardest—especially when you're talking about McLaren ☕

My eyes are playing tricks on me again...🤦

stormybadger8 said:Clearly you have no clue. 😉
Most of what was posted were straight facts, which Alonso fans stubbornly deny, claiming it’s all got nothing to do with anything and is just the result of his "super driving."

Look, Alonso is an incredible driver, no doubt about it. But for some reason, he just seems to be falling apart at the seams or is struggling big time at Ferrari. Honestly, I can't wrap my head around these mediocre results and inexplicable mistakes when the car clearly has the potential. 🤷

Personally, I think the Ferrari looks way better than the Renault (maybe I'm biased), yet Robert Kubica is barely trailing behind Alonso. It gives me this nagging feeling that if Lojzek had stayed at Renault, he’d probably have more points right now and be in a better spot than he is at Ferrari. So, the million-dollar question remains: who's actually to blame? Is it Alonso or is it Ferrari? 🤷

Well, see, that's where I disagree. To me, the Ferrari is just a bad car this season. There's basically zero development or actual progress happening. Everyone expected the rest of the field to be chasing Ferrari down, but it’s not happening at all. That’s on them. And by extension, it's on Alonso too, since he hasn't really helped them find that extra gear or maybe he just isn't clicking with the setup like he did back at Renault. 😬 And like I said before, I think if Alonso hadn't struggled to settle in at Ferrari, all this wouldn't be happening. It’s not entirely on him. 😉

Maria Nelson2 said:My eyes are playing tricks on me again...🤦

🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh man, Maria Nelson2, you actually made me laugh 😍 🤦

stormybadger8 said:Clearly you have no clue. 😉
Most of what was posted were straight facts, which Alonso fans stubbornly deny, claiming it’s all got nothing to do with anything and is just the result of his "super driving."

Look, Alonso is an incredible driver, no doubt about it. But for some reason, he just seems to be falling apart at the seams or is struggling big time at Ferrari. Honestly, I can't wrap my head around these mediocre results and inexplicable mistakes when the car clearly has the potential. 🤷

Personally, I think the Ferrari looks way better than the Renault (maybe I'm biased), yet Robert Kubica is barely trailing behind Alonso. It gives me this nagging feeling that if Lojzek had stayed at Renault, he’d probably have more points right now and be in a better spot than he is at Ferrari. So, the million-dollar question remains: who's actually to blame? Is it Alonso or is it Ferrari? 🤷

Kubica is trailing Alonso by 21 points in the championship. That's not exactly nothing.
I'm pretty happy with Alonso in the Ferrari so far; sure, he could've grabbed a few more points here or there, but it doesn't really matter. Massa, though—he's just not quite there for me.