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Handball Euro Finals: America vs. Denmark 20:24

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Participants Kevin Morris12rapidbison42vividangler44Terry Rodriguez41electricnomad11Bradley Nelson2Lisa Sanchez8boldhound8Jonathan Reed4Kevin Roberts7Terry Fisher2Lisa Miller7Sophia Rivera402Jesse BakerNoah ThompsonCharles Fox10vividbadger182John BoothAgoldenbison4David Taylor13Anthony Roberts2Raymond Palmer8nimbledriver81 โ€ฆ
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jan 2004
#901 ·
Jeffrey Long said:Exactly. The refs basically robbed us. It feels like they always find a way to screw us over just because we play better than everyone else.. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Looking to the officiating as the reason for a loss is a pretty cheap move... ๐Ÿ‘

The guys left it all out there on the court. It just wasn't our nightโ€”honestly, I'm surprised they were even able to take the floor after that absolute war they fought yesterday.. ๐Ÿ™

If we had been at full strength with no injuries, or if our coach hadn't picked up two fouls in the final fifteen minutes, ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™, this whole story would be written very differently..

True. Huge respect to our guys; they left it all out there. There wasn't anything more they could have done. Denmark was just sharper, fresher, and better prepared!
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
202 messages
joined Dec 2005
#902 ·
Jonathan Reed4 said:You can't say stuff like that here without being labeled a troll who hates America.
Itโ€™s crazyโ€”every single player stood in front of the cameras and admitted Denmark deserved the win and was the better team.

But if I say it before they do, I'm the one who gets banned! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ™

Even Baliฤ‡ pointed out how those two "gentlemen" stepped in right at the end; you could see it all over his faceโ€”he was absolutely livid with them. ๐Ÿ˜

Perhaps we wouldn't have even won if they had played fair, but at least we would have had a fighting chance at 22-20. Instead, they got robbed, and now there's nothing left to show for it. โ˜•
northernmarlin79 northernmarlin79 Member
44 messages
joined May 2007
#903 ·
Jose Sanchez12 said:Seriously, how is Denmark even better? Itโ€™s not happeningโ€”if they didn't have a world-class goalie keeping them alive, they wouldn't have even made it to the finals in the first place.

Exactly, if it weren't for Casper, they wouldn't even be in the conversation.๐Ÿ‘
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jan 2004
#904 ·
electricnomad11 said:Screw the NBA, let's just go grab a drink.
๐Ÿคฃ
I'd forgive just about anything, but hating on Peru is where I draw the line, especially since that guy hosted you in Spain.
๐Ÿคฎ ๐Ÿคฃ

๐Ÿ˜ฒ Do we know each other? ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Wait, what happened to Pero? ๐Ÿ˜
Only my best buddy could say something like this:
Playing for my country and our flag is an honor. This isn't just a job for me. I actually head back to my club in two days to get back to work, but Iโ€™m here because I want to be. I want to give everything I have left in the tank. We play for everyone watching us, for the fans, and ultimately, for our kids. Even when it hurts, you just have to grit your teeth and push through. We did what we had to do today, and we should hold our heads high. There's no shame in losing to a team like Denmark.
๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™
Linda Hughes88 Linda Hughes88 Active Member
89 messages
joined Jun 2006
#905 ·
Charles Martin2 said:Why so salty???
Vodka is clear...
We'll be wilding out until sunrise, 100%!

Our guys were solid.
Watched ESPN, and their commentators totally missed the mark and were baffled by the officiating...
I'm gonna shake this off on this thread and everything will be fine!
But seriously, that wasn't just a game, it was a war!
Mad respect to our boys!
Stay happy and healthy, everyone!
Celebrate the wins, not the losses!

reminds me exactly of this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Jz_MVMwW0
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
96 messages
joined Aug 2007
#906 ·
Arthur Martinez7 said:Even Baliฤ‡ pointed out how those two "gentlemen" stepped in right at the end; you could see it all over his faceโ€”he was absolutely livid with them. ๐Ÿ˜

Perhaps we wouldn't have even won if they had played fair, but at least we would have had a fighting chance at 22-20. Instead, they got robbed, and now there's nothing left to show for it. โ˜•

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electricnomad11 electricnomad11 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2008
#907 ·
Arthur Martinez7 said:Even Baliฤ‡ pointed out how those two "gentlemen" stepped in right at the end; you could see it all over his faceโ€”he was absolutely livid with them. ๐Ÿ˜

Perhaps we wouldn't have even won if they had played fair, but at least we would have had a fighting chance at 22-20. Instead, they got robbed, and now there's nothing left to show for it. โ˜•

Well, Sola did say that referee duo and Baliฤ‡ have been "close" for a while now; I guess Ivan was just showing that the feeling is mutual.๐Ÿ˜
Terry Rodriguez41 Terry Rodriguez41 Active Member
65 messages
joined Jan 2007
#908 ·
Jeffrey Long said:Exactly. The refs basically robbed us. It feels like they always find a way to screw us over just because we play better than everyone else.. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Looking to the officiating as the reason for a loss is a pretty cheap move... ๐Ÿ‘

The guys left it all out there on the court. It just wasn't our nightโ€”honestly, I'm surprised they were even able to take the floor after that absolute war they fought yesterday.. ๐Ÿ™

If we had been at full strength with no injuries, or if our coach hadn't picked up two fouls in the final fifteen minutes, ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™, this whole story would be written very differently..

Give it a rest, you troll! ๐Ÿ™‚
rapidbison42 rapidbison42 Active Member
102 messages
joined Jan 2008
#909 ·
Jonathan Reed4 said:You can't say stuff like that here without being labeled a troll who hates America.
Itโ€™s crazyโ€”every single player stood in front of the cameras and admitted Denmark deserved the win and was the better team.

But if I say it before they do, I'm the one who gets banned! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ™

What exactly is the goal here? You want players to trash talk the officials and UEFA on live TV just so they can get suspended and lose their contracts?
The look on his face said everything.
That isn't the sound of someone who lost a fair fight; itโ€™s the reaction of a man whoโ€™s been robbed and humiliated.
Walter Fowler53 Walter Fowler53 Active Member
56 messages
joined Jul 2006
#910 ·
Lino's the one to blame for all this๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ™
electricnomad11 electricnomad11 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2008
#911 ·
Jonathan Reed4 said:๐Ÿ˜ฒ Do we know each other? ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Wait, what happened to Pero? ๐Ÿ˜
Only my best buddy could say something like this:
Playing for my country and our flag is an honor. This isn't just a job for me. I actually head back to my club in two days to get back to work, but Iโ€™m here because I want to be. I want to give everything I have left in the tank. We play for everyone watching us, for the fans, and ultimately, for our kids. Even when it hurts, you just have to grit your teeth and push through. We did what we had to do today, and we should hold our heads high. There's no shame in losing to a team like Denmark.
๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™

Hey, Jonathan Reed4, leave me alone.๐Ÿ˜
We're still here for now before the break until the Olympics, then we'll go grab that gold.๐Ÿ˜‰
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
202 messages
joined Dec 2005
#912 ·
electricnomad11 said:Well, Sola did say that referee duo and Baliฤ‡ have been "close" for a while now; I guess Ivan was just showing that the feeling is mutual.๐Ÿ˜

Doesn't that just validate my entire point, wouldn't you agree? If there is truly this much "love" involved, then one can only assume they aren't exactly playing hardball when it comes to favoring his squad on the court, right?๐Ÿ˜
Linda Hughes88 Linda Hughes88 Active Member
89 messages
joined Jun 2006
#913 ·
honestly, our defense was actually solid when we actually had it set up
but man, we just gave away way too many points on those fast breaks because our transition defense was non-existent... and our own offensive breaks? barely even happened. it felt like we were working way too hard just to scrape together a single basket every time...
if it had just been Hvidt out there, we probably would've pulled it off. but we just couldn't shut down their transition game nearly as well as we did against the French...
Jeffrey Long Jeffrey Long Active Member
91 messages
joined Apr 2016
#914 ·
Terry Rodriguez41 said:Give it a rest, you troll! ๐Ÿ™‚

The clones are multiplying... ๐Ÿ˜
Samuel Baker3 Samuel Baker3 Member
26 messages
joined Jan 2013
#915 ·
The gap between this Danish squad and our guys feels like itโ€™s about six or seven goals. It seems like the Americans really capitalized on the fact that the Danes haven't quite figured out how to close out games like this, which allowed us to claw our way back in during those final twenty minutes. Honestly, it was almost painful to watch how terrified they became of losing their lead, leading them to commit such ridiculous mistakes. We're talking stepping violations, offensive foulsโ€”all while having a man advantage, which is just embarrassing for a team of their caliber. ๐Ÿ™„
Justin Ward4 Justin Ward4 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jan 2008
#916 ·
Credit where credit is due to the players!๐Ÿ™
They were practically dead on their feet and still managed to give those fast Danes a run for their money.
I called itโ€”I knew exactly what would trip us up, and thatโ€™s precisely why we lost. Giving up goals on fast breaks because our defense wasn't set? In modern basketball, you just can't afford to let that happen. But look, when you miss that many open layups (not that they missed *that* much, considering how phenomenal Hvidt was in the hoop), you aren't going to beat a mediocre team, let alone a squad like Denmark.โ˜•
The guards were pretty weak out there, though to be fair, they spent most of the game on the bench, so maybe they could have grabbed one or two more rebounds.
Our wings failed to capitalize again, and you could blame Ballinger for that. I say "blame" with air quotes, though, since the poor guy could barely walk properly, let alone find the burst of speed needed to create an advantage.
Lackovic was underwhelming, and Valcic only seemed to find his rhythm right at the end of the game.
Metlific was incredibly solid, both on offense and defense. Dominic lost his cool way too fast; we actually had a chance to catch up when we were down by three, but he reacted too impulsively to that Danish breakaway, slipped, left a massive hole in the defense, and that was the nail in the coffin.
The officiating was easily some of the worst I've seen in any game lately (maybe aside from that Poland-Norway matchup). But honestly, shouldn't you just adapt to the officials' style? Instead, no. Linus goes and gets the whole team worked up, and in the most critical moments, he hands them four minutes of penalties!!!๐Ÿ˜ 
If I could go back in time, Iโ€™d hunt down my own post from before the EP started, where I asked why, as a global powerhouse, we haven't had a single American referee pair at a major tournament in fifteen years? How is that even possible? I guarantee we wouldn't be getting called this way if they knew they might face the same treatment next time.
electricnomad11 electricnomad11 Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2008
#917 ·
Arthur Martinez7 said:Doesn't that just validate my entire point, wouldn't you agree? If there is truly this much "love" involved, then one can only assume they aren't exactly playing hardball when it comes to favoring his squad on the court, right?๐Ÿ˜

Nobodyโ€™s saying they were neutral or, God forbid, pulling for us.
I'm just saying the Americans were the better team in this final, and whatever happened, happens.
We just weren't at our best for some objective reasonsโ€”it sucks, but hey, the next NBA comes in 2010.
Ivan will be playing then, too.๐Ÿ˜
Nathan Kern9 Nathan Kern9 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jan 2008
#918 ·
Justin Ward4 said:Credit where credit is due to the players!๐Ÿ™
They were practically dead on their feet and still managed to give those fast Danes a run for their money.
I called itโ€”I knew exactly what would trip us up, and thatโ€™s precisely why we lost. Giving up goals on fast breaks because our defense wasn't set? In modern basketball, you just can't afford to let that happen. But look, when you miss that many open layups (not that they missed *that* much, considering how phenomenal Hvidt was in the hoop), you aren't going to beat a mediocre team, let alone a squad like Denmark.โ˜•
The guards were pretty weak out there, though to be fair, they spent most of the game on the bench, so maybe they could have grabbed one or two more rebounds.
Our wings failed to capitalize again, and you could blame Ballinger for that. I say "blame" with air quotes, though, since the poor guy could barely walk properly, let alone find the burst of speed needed to create an advantage.
Lackovic was underwhelming, and Valcic only seemed to find his rhythm right at the end of the game.
Metlific was incredibly solid, both on offense and defense. Dominic lost his cool way too fast; we actually had a chance to catch up when we were down by three, but he reacted too impulsively to that Danish breakaway, slipped, left a massive hole in the defense, and that was the nail in the coffin.
The officiating was easily some of the worst I've seen in any game lately (maybe aside from that Poland-Norway matchup). But honestly, shouldn't you just adapt to the officials' style? Instead, no. Linus goes and gets the whole team worked up, and in the most critical moments, he hands them four minutes of penalties!!!๐Ÿ˜ 
If I could go back in time, Iโ€™d hunt down my own post from before the EP started, where I asked why, as a global powerhouse, we haven't had a single American referee pair at a major tournament in fifteen years? How is that even possible? I guarantee we wouldn't be getting called this way if they knew they might face the same treatment next time.

It's because our officials are essentially crooks who either call everything to favor the big-market teams like the Lakers (which is totally unnecessary) or they play along to please some bloated former commissioner (which seems to be the actual requirement). People just know that American referees can be incredibly shady.

Take guys like Giljevic and Komazin, for example. Thankfully, they aren't on the floor much anymore, but we just ended up with a whole new crop of refs who always seem to get delegated based on "orders." Whether it's when a high-profile game at Madison Square Garden gets messy... or when a team loses a crucial point just to satisfy some betting syndicate.
Samuel Baker3 Samuel Baker3 Member
26 messages
joined Jan 2013
#919 ·
rapidbison42 said:What exactly is the goal here? You want players to trash talk the officials and UEFA on live TV just so they can get suspended and lose their contracts?
The look on his face said everything.
That isn't the sound of someone who lost a fair fight; itโ€™s the reaction of a man whoโ€™s been robbed and humiliated.

How could Miliฤiฤ‡ be any different, since he was openly frustrated with the officiating and actually spoke up about it?๐Ÿ˜
Unlike Baliฤ‡ev, who acted like a coward saying, "...while those two weren't interfering..."๐Ÿคฃ

Maybe next time the referee should take a moment to think twice before making a call they aren't even sure about.
darkfox5 darkfox5 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#920 ·
Lisa White3 said:Iโ€™m honestly just relieved there wonโ€™t be any big welcoming ceremony this time. No more dealing with Barun and his "tough luck" attitude, or listening to Fodora crack those mindless jokes. I'm also glad we won't have to endure those distorted anthems performed by some random amateur from the local community theater, or all that nonsense like "Hell on Earth" and other ridiculous songs being blasted across Times Square.

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