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Handball Euro Finals: America vs. Denmark 20:24

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Jeremy Phillips54 Jeremy Phillips54 Member
34 messages
joined Aug 2004
#921 ·
Jamie Moore8 said:First offβ€”Jeremy Phillips54, those guys are Spanish.
And besides, it wasn't even Spanish refs calling that basketball game.
You can't go blaming an entire nation just because a few idiots messed up.

It's the same logic people use against us when Dinamo fans head out to Europe.

Look, Dinamo fans in Europe aren't out there robbing their opponents; sure, they might get into a scrap or two, but they aren't thieves.

Even if the refs weren't Spanish, everyone knows exactly who was rigging those calls and why.

And as for Santana? He’s actually Mexican, not Spanish. You could try to stretch the truth to match his nickname and all those "heroic" deeds, but if we start digging that deep into history, we'd all be claiming to be from Kenya or somewhere else entirely.
Jerry Fisher41 Jerry Fisher41 Member
22 messages
joined Apr 2004
#922 ·
electricnomad11 said:Nobody’s saying they were neutral or, God forbid, pulling for us.
I'm just saying the Americans were the better team in this final, and whatever happened, happens.
We just weren't at our best for some objective reasonsβ€”it sucks, but hey, the next NBA comes in 2010.
Ivan will be playing then, too.😁

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rapidbison42 rapidbison42 Active Member
102 messages
joined Jan 2008
#923 ·
Justin Ward4 said:Credit where credit is due to the players!πŸ™
They were practically dead on their feet and still managed to give those fast Danes a run for their money.
I called itβ€”I knew exactly what would trip us up, and that’s precisely why we lost. Giving up goals on fast breaks because our defense wasn't set? In modern basketball, you just can't afford to let that happen. But look, when you miss that many open layups (not that they missed *that* much, considering how phenomenal Hvidt was in the hoop), you aren't going to beat a mediocre team, let alone a squad like Denmark.β˜•
The guards were pretty weak out there, though to be fair, they spent most of the game on the bench, so maybe they could have grabbed one or two more rebounds.
Our wings failed to capitalize again, and you could blame Ballinger for that. I say "blame" with air quotes, though, since the poor guy could barely walk properly, let alone find the burst of speed needed to create an advantage.
Lackovic was underwhelming, and Valcic only seemed to find his rhythm right at the end of the game.
Metlific was incredibly solid, both on offense and defense. Dominic lost his cool way too fast; we actually had a chance to catch up when we were down by three, but he reacted too impulsively to that Danish breakaway, slipped, left a massive hole in the defense, and that was the nail in the coffin.
The officiating was easily some of the worst I've seen in any game lately (maybe aside from that Poland-Norway matchup). But honestly, shouldn't you just adapt to the officials' style? Instead, no. Linus goes and gets the whole team worked up, and in the most critical moments, he hands them four minutes of penalties!!!😠
If I could go back in time, I’d hunt down my own post from before the EP started, where I asked why, as a global powerhouse, we haven't had a single American referee pair at a major tournament in fifteen years? How is that even possible? I guarantee we wouldn't be getting called this way if they knew they might face the same treatment next time.

Yeah, unfortunately... though you have to give credit to ValčiΔ‡ for today. He had a ton of steals and interceptions, and showed some serious grit toward the end. It's just a shame the refs cut him short by missing that clear penalty when Hvidt stripped the ball during his shot.
Hopefully, he’ll find that offensive rhythm he had five or six years ago again.
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 Regular
352 messages
joined Mar 2009
#924 ·
Silver is an incredible achievement, truly, though I can't help but feel we left something on the table. It’s a shame about the officiating in the finalsβ€”there were legitimate grievances there. In a championship game like this, you expect neutrality; if they had just called it straight, there wouldn't be any debate. A real pity.
Nathan Kern9 Nathan Kern9 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jan 2008
#925 ·
btw. Jeremy Phillips54 is American πŸ™‚
Back when he was just a kid, his folks used to let him play on this little plastic drum... eventually, they all packed up and fled across the desert to the States, settling down in San Francisco.
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
103 messages
joined Jun 2007
#926 ·
Linda Hughes88 said:reminds me exactly of this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Jz_MVMwW0

Hey Joe... (Hendrix style...), you're comparing me to him???
After two and a half bottles of Smirnoffβ€”those Finns and Danes are all the sameβ€”he wouldn't even know which way is up. Me? I still respect grammar and sports!
This video keeps cutting out at the 20-second mark, so I didn't see the end...
Give me a break hereβ€”I'm an American living abroad!!!
We don't start complaining until we actually get back home!!!
rapidbison42 rapidbison42 Active Member
102 messages
joined Jan 2008
#927 ·
Samuel Baker3 said:How could MiličiΔ‡ be any different, since he was openly frustrated with the officiating and actually spoke up about it?😁
Unlike BaliΔ‡ev, who acted like a coward saying, "...while those two weren't interfering..."🀣

Maybe next time the referee should take a moment to think twice before making a call they aren't even sure about.

The club hit MiličiΔ‡ where it hurtsβ€”his wallet. That fine was bigger than Balić’s entire annual salary. Since he apologized later, FIBA put him on probation. One more insult caught on camera and he's done with FIBA for good.

If MiličiΔ‡ were coaching our side today, the game would still be going. We'd still be waiting for that Mexican duo to swap out these two exhausted players.
rapidbison42 rapidbison42 Active Member
102 messages
joined Jan 2008
#928 ·
I feel for the poor souls who have to face us in the Olympic qualifiers. It’s going to be an absolute slaughter of innocent bystanders.
The US coach is definitely going to field a completely different squad against us. 100%.
Justin Ward4 Justin Ward4 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jan 2008
#929 ·
I am seriously counting down the days until the Olympic showdown!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s going to be just like when the Americans faced off in Athens after that robbery during the EP in Canada.
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
202 messages
joined Dec 2005
#930 ·
rapidbison42 said:The club hit MiličiΔ‡ where it hurtsβ€”his wallet. That fine was bigger than Balić’s entire annual salary. Since he apologized later, FIBA put him on probation. One more insult caught on camera and he's done with FIBA for good.

If MiličiΔ‡ were coaching our side today, the game would still be going. We'd still be waiting for that Mexican duo to swap out these two exhausted players.

Or maybe their daughters would have just walked off the court instead.πŸ˜‚
steelbison14 steelbison14 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2011
#931 ·
So, when is the celebration actually happening? Nothing yet? Is it just at the gala? And what time?
In my opinion, our guys are the best. Let the Danes have their gold medals; there isn't a better group of handball players in the world than ours.
And honestly, BaliΔ‡ev is the greatest. I'm practically speechless.😍
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
202 messages
joined Dec 2005
#932 ·
Today marks a silver milestone for us, as KosteliΔ‡ secures his second podium finish in the combined event πŸ™ πŸ™

Now, I find myself facing the daunting task of grading about twenty student seminars; I suppose everyone will receive whatever grade they truly deserve 🀣
Charles Martin2 Charles Martin2 Active Member
103 messages
joined Jun 2007
#933 ·
I mean, honestly? It feels like the Danes are always letting Metlicica and Balica slide with zero calls, even when they play dirty.
Meanwhile, our guys get whistled for even thinking about breathing wrong.
It’s way more than that, too...
But whatever, it’s fine; we could have called that silver gold for all the good it does.
It was a wild ride though!!!
Watching it on TV and hanging out here with you guys was a blast!!!
No fans can compare to Americans!!!
And none of them give a damn either!!!
I know how we roll, damn us πŸ˜‰!!!
swiftbison2 swiftbison2 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Dec 2007
#934 ·
Hats off to our guys. They were battered, bruised, and held together by nothing but grit and athletic tape, yet they still managed to πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™
The objective was met, the gold is ours... πŸ™‚
It’s just a shame the finish leaves such a bitter taste in your mouth...
That Danish offense today was something else, my god 😲 It looked amateurish. The footwork, the pacing, the turnovers, the missed shots 😲 What did you do to those Danes??? 😲
Our team fought like lions, but there are some things you simply can't fight against 😠:2up:

Congrats to John and Vori on the titles 😍
Maria Ortiz61 Maria Ortiz61 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Feb 2008
#935 ·
Man, those refs were terrible... we really should have crushed them.πŸ™
mellowcrane41 mellowcrane41 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jan 2007
#936 ·
swiftbison2 said:Hats off to our guys. They were battered, bruised, and held together by nothing but grit and athletic tape, yet they still managed to πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™
The objective was met, the gold is ours... πŸ™‚
It’s just a shame the finish leaves such a bitter taste in your mouth...
That Danish offense today was something else, my god 😲 It looked amateurish. The footwork, the pacing, the turnovers, the missed shots 😲 What did you do to those Danes??? 😲
Our team fought like lions, but there are some things you simply can't fight against 😠:2up:

Congrats to John and Vori on the titles 😍

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..and to Lina for racking up the most minutes played...!!!?😠
placidorca31 placidorca31 Member
26 messages
joined Feb 2007
#937 ·
Way to go, guys... really impressive work here.
Since we clearly can't manage to snag two European titles in the same year, I suppose we’ll just have to pin our hopes on the other national teams...
swiftbison2 swiftbison2 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Dec 2007
#938 ·
Well, they certainly took a beating on all fronts... It wasn't exactly a brilliant move at the time, but honestly, someone had to step up and call out those scammers for what they really are 😬 That heavy lifting fell to Lina, and to us here πŸ₯³ πŸ™‚
hollowfalcon8 hollowfalcon8 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jan 2008
#939 ·
But honestly, looking back at the last few years, it feels like the US has been absolutely dominating the basketball scene, consistently staying right at the top of the rankings...
Screw Denmark, who will probably slide down to sixth place after this gold medal run; screw the Spaniards who got knocked out in the opening round (or whenever that was); screw the Poles who just rely on brute force; and screw the Germans, who always seem to limp through thanks to some questionable officiating from the refs...
I guess the only ones who might actually give us a run for our money are the French...
Arthur Martinez7 Arthur Martinez7 Active Member
202 messages
joined Dec 2005
#940 ·
hollowfalcon8 said:But honestly, looking back at the last few years, it feels like the US has been absolutely dominating the basketball scene, consistently staying right at the top of the rankings...
Screw Denmark, who will probably slide down to sixth place after this gold medal run; screw the Spaniards who got knocked out in the opening round (or whenever that was); screw the Poles who just rely on brute force; and screw the Germans, who always seem to limp through thanks to some questionable officiating from the refs...
I guess the only ones who might actually give us a run for our money are the French...

I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.πŸ™ πŸ™

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