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Participants Morgan WilliamsRachel Cooper3Joseph Clark37Keith Patel81darkseal9neonfalcon16urbanhawk17Amanda Evans2bluebison47brightpilot6Patrick MartinJoseph Fisher3steelharbor9Robin Fox2Maria AndersonAnthony Jackson2Jason Newmanruggedjackal46Michelle Palmer6Jeffrey Edwards76Jason Campbell70Anthony Barrett37graniteangler31Dennis Evans6 …
William Gomez5 William Gomez5 Active Member
233 messages
joined May 2018
#17761 ·
steelharbor9 said:Way overrated. I guess it might have worked better in China, but as it stands, it's just ninety minutes of Sandra Bullock pretending to be Buzz Aldrin wrapped in pretty visuals.

And don't even get me started on the whole human space farce 😂

Christ is born, then rises from the dead.

That’s probably the only logical sequel.

In a theater? It’s not even a 10/10, it’s a straight up 15/10

I'm not even watching this at home, let alone ever—don't want to ruin the vibe by doing it on a tiny screen somewhere
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
769 messages
joined Mar 2012
#17762 ·
Susan Kim2 said:Bode Miller🙏

You made a good point there; he really was an ace. Though, I guess he had a pretty rough look to him. 🙏
Jesse Sullivan5 Jesse Sullivan5 Regular
309 messages
joined Aug 2018
#17763 ·
In my humble opinion, Prometheus is hands down the greatest space movie ever made! ☕
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined Oct 2012
#17764 ·
Anything would be an improvement over that tedious Space Odyssey,

but that’s why Interstellar wins out. 🙏
restlesssurfer97 restlesssurfer97 Veteran
1.2K messages
joined May 2004
#17765 ·
MJ wasn't even a fan of him. Isaiah.
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
769 messages
joined Mar 2012
#17766 ·
brightpilot6 said:Anything would be an improvement over that tedious Space Odyssey,

but that’s why Interstellar wins out. 🙏

I guess it's a total 180.🙏
steelharbor9 steelharbor9 Active Member
198 messages
joined Jul 2012
#17767 ·
brightpilot6 said:Anything would be an improvement over that tedious Space Odyssey,

but that’s why Interstellar wins out. 🙏

Man, you really triggered me there just now like I'm some guy getting kicked out of a club because you mentioned ZDS isn't some old-school American greeting.☕

I guess Interstellar is pretty great too, though.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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joined Oct 2012
#17768 ·
Is the suspension and poor enforcement of all other health-related content (aside from COVID-19) actually an official anti-COVID policy?

Or is it simply a byproduct of the sluggish rollout of general pandemic measures, combined with the insufficient capacity and quality of our healthcare system—shortcomings that manifest on a daily basis even during normal times?

And what is the purpose of those of you who aren't shortsighted and understand that this isn't some binary struggle between public health and the economy? What is the real fight here? And specifically, what should or shouldn't have been done during the beginning and middle of March?

Please be specific; anyone can post cryptic comments and dislikes until they're blue in the face.
restlesssurfer97 restlesssurfer97 Veteran
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joined May 2004
#17769 ·
Either way, we were all doomed anyway.

1) We're all gonna kick the bucket eventually because of old age, regardless of COVID-19
2) The system is basically broken beyond repair already, so COVID-19 doesn't even matter

So, pick your favorite flavor of "we're doomed" and let me know which side you're on. 😍
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
391 messages
joined Apr 2014
#17770 ·
William Gomez5 said:Signing off, Stu the IT guy 🙏 👍

Anyone seen End of Watch?

Jake 😍
Susan Kim2 Susan Kim2 Active Member
94 messages
joined Jan 2019
#17771 ·
William Gomez5 said:Signing off, Stu the IT guy 🙏 👍

Anyone seen End of Watch?

Great movie.
Anthony Wright30 Anthony Wright30 Active Member
189 messages
joined Oct 2017
#17772 ·
brightpilot6 said:Is the suspension and poor enforcement of all other health-related content (aside from COVID-19) actually an official anti-COVID policy?

Or is it simply a byproduct of the sluggish rollout of general pandemic measures, combined with the insufficient capacity and quality of our healthcare system—shortcomings that manifest on a daily basis even during normal times?

And what is the purpose of those of you who aren't shortsighted and understand that this isn't some binary struggle between public health and the economy? What is the real fight here? And specifically, what should or shouldn't have been done during the beginning and middle of March?

Please be specific; anyone can post cryptic comments and dislikes until they're blue in the face.

I suppose the point is that no one will ever be held accountable for this catastrophic string of decisions and the countless lives that may have been lost in vain.

It isn't just that no one will answer for it; I almost expect people to hand out medals for success instead.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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#17773 ·
After reading through this, my takeaway is simple: the mother passed away because of sheer negligence and incompetence, not because of some mass hysteria.
Right from the start, you see that exchange: "Can I have a glass of water?" followed by "No, I'm from a different department."
How does that have anything to do with COVID-19 panic?
The constant runaround you get from staff in government institutions is more the rule than the exception.
This isn't about the virus; this could have happened anytime—a year ago, two years ago, or five years ago.
urbanhawk17 urbanhawk17 Regular
575 messages
joined Mar 2020
#17774 ·
Anthony Wright30 said:I suppose the point is that no one will ever be held accountable for this catastrophic string of decisions and the countless lives that may have been lost in vain.

It isn't just that no one will answer for it; I almost expect people to hand out medals for success instead.

How so?

Maybe it's just the virus. I guess.
restlesssurfer97 restlesssurfer97 Veteran
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joined May 2004
#17775 ·
brightpilot6 said:Is the suspension and poor enforcement of all other health-related content (aside from COVID-19) actually an official anti-COVID policy?

Or is it simply a byproduct of the sluggish rollout of general pandemic measures, combined with the insufficient capacity and quality of our healthcare system—shortcomings that manifest on a daily basis even during normal times?

And what is the purpose of those of you who aren't shortsighted and understand that this isn't some binary struggle between public health and the economy? What is the real fight here? And specifically, what should or shouldn't have been done during the beginning and middle of March?

Please be specific; anyone can post cryptic comments and dislikes until they're blue in the face.

No shit, Sherlock. Did you honestly think that slapping some COVID-19 restrictions on top of a broken system was going to make everything suddenly run like a dream, or were you actually expecting a mess to just get even messier?

So, what’s the actual point for those of you who aren't being shortsighted and can see that this isn't just some binary battle between public health and the economy? Because that’s such a surface-level way to look at it, right? Like, if you actually step back, what is the real fight here? And more importantly, looking back at everything that went down during the beginning and middle of March, what specifically should have been done—or, you know, shouldn't have happened—to handle this properly?

Look, let's be real here, anyone can sit around throwing out cryptic comments or spamming dislikes on basically anything they want, and honestly, it’s enough to drive you absolutely insane if you let it get to you.

I’ve been talking about this for over a month now, specifically regarding all those crucial measures that just got completely bypassed, and I’m not just making this up as I go or pulling ideas out of thin air, because I’m actually looking at what other countries did when they were successfully managing to shut down that first wave of COVID-19.

Instead of trying to follow their lead, we basically just looked at what happened in Italy—they let things spiral into total chaos and then spent all that time struggling to fix the exact same mess we're facing now.
We haven't even come close to focusing enough on prevention, we've just been obsessively concentrated on treating the disease once it already hits you.

Look, if you skip over several crucial preventive measures and just dive headfirst into a government shutdown that’s going to trigger a massive chain reaction of heavy consequences, then you haven't actually done the job right. It’s really that simple.
brightpilot6 brightpilot6 Veteran
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#17776 ·
Anthony Wright30 said:I suppose the point is that no one will ever be held accountable for this catastrophic string of decisions and the countless lives that may have been lost in vain.

It isn't just that no one will answer for it; I almost expect people to hand out medals for success instead.

Perhaps. But if no one is being held responsible even during normal times when people are dying simply because there isn't enough emergency care available, why should anyone be surprised that things continue this way in such a chaotic era? The system didn't just collapse now; it hasn't been buckling under the weight of mismanagement and neglect—both financial and personal—for decades. And more often than not, it's the person who actually trusts the system that ends up paying the price.

Unfortunately, we see these kinds of tragic stories all the time; the only difference is that usually, the cause is just "standard" incompetence and poor organization. Now, however, it’s being rebranded as "COVID-related incompetence," which makes it the perfect narrative for those fighting against the mandates. That was essentially the point of my previous comment.

If you have ever had to personally escort someone through hospitals, or if you happen to rely on the healthcare system yourself, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
restlesssurfer97 restlesssurfer97 Veteran
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joined May 2004
#17777 ·
Matthew Young35 said:After reading through this, my takeaway is simple: the mother passed away because of sheer negligence and incompetence, not because of some mass hysteria.
Right from the start, you see that exchange: "Can I have a glass of water?" followed by "No, I'm from a different department."
How does that have anything to do with COVID-19 panic?
The constant runaround you get from staff in government institutions is more the rule than the exception.
This isn't about the virus; this could have happened anytime—a year ago, two years ago, or five years ago.

Even a ninety-year-old grandpa would have passed away, whether it was with COVID-19 or without it.🤷

So, here's a little gift for you, just one more quote:

Perhaps the best way to look at this is through the statement made by Eduard Vrdoljak, the president of the American Cancer Society and head of the oncology department at the Mayo Clinic. A few weeks back, he expressed serious concern, noting that until recently, oncology in the area was seeing roughly 12 new patients a day, but since the COVID-19 crisis kicked off, they've only been seeing two or three. Of course, we know the number of cancer patients didn't just magically drop; instead, they're being missed because the entire healthcare system—especially diagnostic radiology—basically ground to a halt. His warning that the pandemic will be followed by a "pandemic" of malignant diseases, and that the resulting death toll from delayed diagnoses could easily match or even exceed the lives saved from COVID-19, is enough to make your blood run cold.
urbanhawk17 urbanhawk17 Regular
575 messages
joined Mar 2020
#17778 ·
Matthew Young35 said:After reading through this, my takeaway is simple: the mother passed away because of sheer negligence and incompetence, not because of some mass hysteria.
Right from the start, you see that exchange: "Can I have a glass of water?" followed by "No, I'm from a different department."
How does that have anything to do with COVID-19 panic?
The constant runaround you get from staff in government institutions is more the rule than the exception.
This isn't about the virus; this could have happened anytime—a year ago, two years ago, or five years ago.

The system is falling apart, but here, COVID-19 is definitely being used as the scapegoat.

Don't bring her back; we won't admit her. The reason—as crazy as it sounds—was because her son had a slight fever. They demand a negative COVID-19 test result before they'll accept anyone, and if someone dies in the meantime, well, too bad. The test result, which would show up a few days later, was naturally negative.

So, they wouldn't admit her until the son tested negative.
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
821 messages
joined Oct 2020
#17779 ·
Now, every single healthcare failure is just going to be blamed on COVID-19.

COVID-19 is going to be the ultimate excuse for everything in the coming years. We're talking everything from healthcare issues to economic crashes. It’s basically going to replace that classic line, "It's not our fault, it's the fault of the previous administration."
urbanhawk17 urbanhawk17 Regular
575 messages
joined Mar 2020
#17780 ·
brightpilot6 said:Perhaps. But if no one is being held responsible even during normal times when people are dying simply because there isn't enough emergency care available, why should anyone be surprised that things continue this way in such a chaotic era? The system didn't just collapse now; it hasn't been buckling under the weight of mismanagement and neglect—both financial and personal—for decades. And more often than not, it's the person who actually trusts the system that ends up paying the price.

Unfortunately, we see these kinds of tragic stories all the time; the only difference is that usually, the cause is just "standard" incompetence and poor organization. Now, however, it’s being rebranded as "COVID-related incompetence," which makes it the perfect narrative for those fighting against the mandates. That was essentially the point of my previous comment.

If you have ever had to personally escort someone through hospitals, or if you happen to rely on the healthcare system yourself, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

In this case, it’s not even about the system failing; it’s more about pure hysteria.

So, basically, six months ago they would have admitted her and done what needed to be done, but now she's being turned away specifically because of the COVID-19 hysteria.

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