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Justin Watson58 said:...and Jet Li also uses the Bagua form...😕

I mean, I don't think Jet Li has anything to do with Bagua. As far as I know, he mostly practiced Long Fist kung fu.

...there it is, I guess...

http://www.jetli.com/jet/index.php?s...s=wushuography

George Martin70 said:Jet has zero connection to Ba Gwa—as far as I know, he just trained in long-fist kung fu.

🤣 absolute legend. You’d think someone would at least know a thing or two about the actors if they didn't know squat about martial arts... but nope. you don't even have that. 😉

Justin Watson5 said:...there it is, I guess...

Check this out if you want to dive into some Wushu history. It’s basically a deep dive into Jet Li's martial arts journey and his whole career path. Pretty cool stuff for anyone interested in the technical side of things. I guess it's worth a look.

Yeah, you can tell from that look he probably hasn't mastered anything yet. Maybe like Jamie Fowler's sensei, or maybe even like Brandon Hayes73, I guess. 🤣 Too many different styles, too little actual knowledge... Honestly, BJJ is just incredibly complex on its own. I guess Jamie Fowler wouldn't even be able to wrap his head around it—not the art itself, and certainly not what she actually brings to the table. So, yeah, you can't just "train her a little bit" and claim you know her style.
Yeah, forget about that nonsense from Jamie Fowler2 about him teaching you everything in five minutes. Total joke. If you're really that obsessed with Ba gwa, though, I guess I could give you a recommendation... but honestly, that doesn't mean you'll actually get in. Plus, it’s pretty far away, and I don't even know where you're coming from.

Jamie Fowler2 said:🤣 Legend. You’d think a guy would actually know something about actors if he doesn't know a thing about martial arts. But I guess you don't even know that. 😉

What was it you said about Ba gwa? I guess you were wondering if Hao knew what it was actually used for?

George Martin70 said:Yeah, you can tell right away he hasn't mastered anything. He's just like Cain’s sifu, or even 🤣 analogskipper74, constantly switching styles because he doesn't actually know his stuff. Ba gwa itself is incredibly complex. Take Cain—he can't wrap his head around her, let alone what she truly is. You don't just "train a little bit" and suddenly claim you understand her.
Forget all that nonsense about Cain teaching you everything in five minutes. If you're actually serious about Ba gwa, I could give you a recommendation... but don't expect an invitation. It's a long shot, and honestly, I have no idea where you're even coming from...

...I am everywhere and nowhere...
...I wish you would tell me...

George Martin70 said:There’s this Chinese guy living in America—not some small-time hustler like that guy from the movies, but a legitimate Xingyi and Bagua master. He's based out in Seattle. I can get you his number, but honestly, who knows if he'll even bother taking on a student.

...I'll just draw him a circle...

Justin Watson58 said:...I'll just draw him a circle...

👍

Panzer, I don't think it's right to provoke Jamie Fowler2. He’s one of the most level-headed people on this forum. He doesn't brag, he doesn't lecture others with his expertise, and he never gets dragged into petty arguments. Besides, his medical knowledge is actually quite significant. 😉

Gerald Smith76 makes some incredibly solid points here... I find myself in complete agreement.

And while we're on the subject, let's just nominate Gerald Smith76 for President already.😬

Alright everyone... sending my best to you all. I'm clocking out starting tomorrow and won't be back until the 29th.
Merry Christmas to everyone on this forum and to your families.
As for me, I'm off to go wrestle some bears—assuming they're actually interested in a bout.😁

Just don't start playing the drums at me. 😬 😬

Thanks for the well wishes. Enjoy!

Happy holidays, Alexander Long37, and good luck with that job you're heading off to.
I’m with Gerald Smith76 on this one, though from what I can tell, everyone just ignores his (Panzer's) posts anyway... so I don't see much point in drawing attention to him right now. He should probably try saying something actually intelligent first, instead of just trashing everything and everyone...

George Martin70 said:Change or application. He wouldn't even take you. Ba gua is top-tier martial arts—the peak of Chinese combat development. Grandmaster Shoto Tanemura actually trains Ba gua.

Still waiting on an answer.

Hold up... Shoto Tanemura? You mean the guy who left Bunjikan back in '84?

If you’re just coming at me because I trained under Hao, then just say that. Tell me exactly what I’m doing wrong or what I’m saying that's so messed up.

I don't care about Ba gua. You claimed your Chinese instructor in New Orleans does Xing Yi. That's what I want to see. If he actually has any Wu De, he wouldn't be acting like you.

Go ahead—find one single post where I claim I'm training mystical stuff. 😛 Those hand movements (the five elements) Hao teaches are the absolute basics of Xing Yi. You can't understand the art without them. Don't take my word for it—go ask your guy.

If you want to debate those topics, go ahead and start your own thread.
This space is meant for people who have specific questions that can actually be answered with specifics.
Keep things civil, please.

Sent some straight-up questions to Alexander Long37—waiting on some actual answers now. And yeah, I kept it civil. 😬

Jamie Fowler2 said:I asked Panzerfaust some direct questions and now I'm waiting for direct answers. I kept things civil. 😬

😈

placidbison20 said:Look, if you want to debate that stuff, just start your own thread.
This space is for people with actual questions that can get real answers.
And maybe try being polite.

Hey everyone! Hope you're all shedding those Christmas pounds. I bet you missed me, 😍 though maybe, I don't know, you shouldn't have deleted that one post where I was doing my best impression of that little dwarf Hao talking about himself. In my humble opinion, that post was basically a masterpiece of forum history...

placidbison20 said:Look, just start your own thread if you want to debate that stuff.
This topic is for people who actually have specific questions that can get actual answers.
And try to be polite.

Spot on. Sun tzu asked about the trigrams, so I gave him an answer.

Jamie Fowler2 said:you still haven't answered.

Hold up... Shoto Tanemura, the guy who left Bunjikan back in '84?

If you're just coming at me because I trained under Hao, then just say that. Tell me exactly what I'm doing wrong or saying wrong.

I don't care about any of that nonsense. You mentioned your Chinese contact in New Orleans does Xing Yi. That's what I want to see. If he actually has even a little bit of wu de, he won't be acting like you.

Go ahead, find a single post where I claim I'm training mystical stuff. 😛 Those hand movements (the five elements) that Hao teaches are just the entry level for Xing Yi. You can't understand the art without practicing them. Don't take my word for it—just ask your guy.

Yeah, that exact Shoto.
So you trained with Hao? Does that mean you're done learning? Or did he teach you everything there is to know?
I'm not really gonna try explaining anything to you until you see it for yourself.
What exactly do you want me to say? About how I'm behaving?
Look, Hao only teaches the basics. Like, the absolute bare minimum. He doesn't really know anything beyond that.

George Martin70 said:That damn Shoto.
Did you train under Hao? So you’re done learning now? Or did he just teach you everything there is to know?
I'm not gonna sit here and explain it to you—you gotta see it for yourself.
What exactly do you want me to say, about how I carry myself?
Exactly. Hao only teaches the basics—the absolute bare minimum, really. He doesn't know anything beyond that.

Isn't someone who masters a ton of different skills considered a scrub by your definition?😉

I used to go, but my schedule flipped and I couldn't make it regularly anymore... plus we kind of lost touch.

If you can't explain it, show me. If you can't show me, then... 😕

I want you to use fewer typos when you post🙂 but looks like you cleaned up your act over Christmas.

Look, you gotta start with the fundamentals, right?