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A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#1 ·
Hey ladies!
There are so many different types of acupuncture and alternative weight loss methods out there. I remember seeing a thread here a while back about the emperor and his specific approach to acupuncture. I’m curious—what are the actual, objective benefits of using this method to lose weight? Does it actually work, or is it mostly just a placebo effect?
Does acupuncture truly help curb your appetite, or is it just in your head? And what are the downsides?

Thanks in advance,
asa
Keith Robinson2 Keith Robinson2 Member
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#2 ·
Hey! So, a friend of mine actually went through it, and her take was basically this—and I’m quoting here: "It was honestly one of the best investments I’ve ever made in my life. Just don't expect anyone to hold your hand; he’s pretty blunt, can be kind of rude, and will definitely call you out if you gain even a single pound. But you have to follow his advice to the letter, and man, does it work." Anyway, that’s just how it went for her. I’m curious if any other guys or girls here have actually dealt with this firsthand.
Jeffrey Edwards5 Jeffrey Edwards5 Active Member
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#3 ·
Keith Robinson2's take hits the nail on the head; I’ve experienced the exact same thing.
Just a heads-up for anyone thinking about booking an appointment: if you aren't 100% sure you can actually stick to his plan, don't bother. Acupuncture won't do much if you're still cheating on your diet and slacking off behind the scenes.
Discipline is a tough pill to swallow.
I'm heading back to see him for the third time now.
Wish me luck.👍
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#4 ·
Awesome, so that bit about the emperor was interesting. What I'm really curious about is how acupuncture actually works on its own? Does it help curb hunger, kickstart your metabolism, or what exactly is going on?
Mark Nguyen6 Mark Nguyen6 Active Member
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#5 ·
As said:I've been wondering myself—how does acupuncture actually work on its own? I mean, does it genuinely help curb hunger, or maybe give the metabolism a bit of a nudge—or is it something else entirely?

Here is something that sounds serious enough to go along with a woman's title—I guess.

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Acupuncture—it’s an interesting topic, isn't it? I suppose there is a certain level of intrigue surrounding it, though perhaps it’s more about how people perceive its effectiveness versus traditional Western medicine. I’ve always felt that while some might be skeptical, there is a certain logic to the way it’s practiced—even if we don't fully grasp the underlying mechanics just yet. It seems like a very deliberate approach to wellness, much like how one might carefully manage their health through specialized care at a private general practice. Maybe it’s just my way of looking at things, but I find the idea of balancing the body's energy quite compelling, even if it feels a bit unconventional to some.

General medicine—it’s such a broad field, isn't it? I suppose one could argue that it serves as the very backbone of our healthcare system here in the States. It covers so much ground, from routine check-ups to managing those nagging, long-term issues that just won't quit. Maybe it's a bit too generalized for some, but I've always felt there is something quite vital about having that one steady point of contact—a private general practice, for instance—where someone actually knows your history. It’s more than just treating symptoms; it's about that continuous, steady oversight. I guess you could say it's the foundation upon which everything else is built.
December 1999

Written by: Dr. Vesna gorički Pernek, specialist in private general practice and acupuncture—
Gerontologist, Private General Practice, 17 Radić Street, Los Angeles, Tel. 555-0199

If you’ve found yourself exhausted by those endless, failed diet cycles—just one repetitive, futile loop after another—perhaps it might be wise to wait. I suppose there is some value in watching for a more psychologically favorable moment—kind of like waiting for a sign—to signal that it is truly time for a fresh start.

Obesity—which, I suppose, touches almost every corner of American society today—is really just one symptom of a much larger issue regarding poor nutrition. The whole point of eating isn't merely to fill our stomachs or satisfy some fleeting sense of hunger, nor is it strictly about the numbers on a scale. In many ways, what we eat is simultaneously the cause, the consequence, and a direct reflection of our overall health and lifestyle. It seems quite clear that an unbalanced diet—combined with vitamin deficiencies, high stress levels, and a lack of physical activity—creates the perfect storm for weight gain. We’ve known for a long time that excess weight brings a host of complications—things like joint degeneration, gallstones, blood clots, cardiovascular issues, and even skin problems. It’s all interconnected, I guess. Anyone who has ever tried to stick to a diet knows those frustrating moments where you feel like you're just spinning your wheels, starting over for the umpteenth time. If you find yourself exhausted by these endless, unsuccessful cycles of dieting, perhaps it’s best to wait for a moment when you feel psychologically ready—a sign that it might actually be time for a true fresh start. The motivation can come from anywhere: a desire for better health, wanting to look better, or simply a need for change. Ultimately, losing weight is a metamorphosis—and one that requires some real preparation.

Spring is arguably the best time of year to kickstart a new diet—it just feels right. After a long winter of limited options and that constant, nagging craving for heavy, comforting meals, the sudden influx of fresh fruits and vegetables at the local farmers' markets offers such a refreshing change of pace. I suppose there’s something about the way nature begins to wake up and renew itself that naturally makes us want to hit the reset button on our own bodies, too. So, you've made the call—the decision is final, and you're starting tomorrow. It’s a big step, though—and honestly, a pretty bold one. You’ll likely need some serious support from your family to stay on track, and I’d suggest keeping a close eye on things with a doctor, too—just to be safe. Remember, you aren't just embarking on a bit of an uncertain adventure; your goal isn't merely to drop a few pounds. More importantly, it's about reshaping your entire relationship with food so you don't end up feeling like a slave to your cravings ever again.

There is an ancient approach to healing known as acupuncture—essentially treating internal ailments through external means. Its origins are often traced back to a legend about a warrior who was struck by an arrow; once the arrow was removed and the wound healed, it was discovered that a completely different illness elsewhere in his body had vanished as well. The term itself actually has Latin roots—*acus* meaning needle and *pungere* meaning to pierce—and it refers to this ancient Chinese method of using needles inserted into specific points on the skin to facilitate healing.

It’s fascinating to look back at ancient history—as far back as 2800 B.C.E., actually—when you consider that the Huang di neo Jing was already being discussed. This foundational text is attributed to the Yellow emperor (who reigned from roughly 2698 to 2596 B.C.E.), and he is essentially credited with authoring the very first written medical treatise. The work itself is structured as a series of dialogues between the emperor and his physician—it's quite an interesting format, I suppose—and it is divided into two distinct parts:

"Simple Questions" — this covers the core principles of general practice and...

"Magic Doors"—it’s a piece where he dives into all sorts of different therapeutic approaches—things like herbal acupuncture, energy healing, and even surgery.

It was actually missionaries who first introduced acupuncture to the West back in the late 16th century—at least, that’s my understanding. By 1682, we were already seeing the first doctoral dissertations on the subject being defended in London. However, if we are looking for the most influential figure in making this known to the Western world, it would likely be George Soulie de Morant. He was a diplomat who became so deeply immersed in studying acupuncture that the Chinese actually honored him with the title of "physician teacher." His efforts eventually paved the way for the establishment of an international acupuncture society in Paris back in 1946. Fast forward to 1979, and the World Health Organization officially recognized acupuncture as a legitimate medical method—even putting together a specific list of conditions it can effectively treat. This includes things like sinusitis, constipation, headaches, migraines, and various types of neuralgia, as well as musculoskeletal pain and even certain dependencies, such as obesity or smoking habits.

How does acupuncture actually work?

Scientific research into the mechanics behind acupuncture really kicked off about 30 years ago. I suppose, to truly grasp how traditional and modern theories intersect, one needs to understand what’s actually happening during a session. There are essentially two types of sensations—subjective and objective:

- subjective — this includes pain (which, I should add, depends heavily on the skill of the practitioner) and the De Qi phenomenon (that deep sensation of fullness, tingling, or pressure),

- objective — things like analgesia (pain relief), sedation (calming effects), homeostasis (maintaining metabolic balance), and various psychological effects.

Regarding more recent scientific theories, we might look at the endorphin release theory. Endorphins are essentially natural neuropeptides that bind to pain receptors in the brain, providing a very potent analgesic effect. It seems that stimulating specific acupuncture points triggers the release of this hormone, which is likely why acupuncture is quite successful in treating various pain syndromes.

Various acupuncture techniques

The very first needles used in China were made of stone, followed later by bone and bamboo. As metallurgy advanced, metal needles began to be manufactured and utilized. Nowadays, thin stainless steel needles and different alloys are the standard. With the evolution of technique, there is an increasing shift toward single-use needles, which, thankfully, helps eliminate the risk of spreading infectious diseases.

We can categorize the techniques as follows:

- thermopuncture, or moxibustion — this involves using dried moxa leaves to emit heat onto specific parts or points of the body,

- electroacupuncture — which is essentially deep electrical stimulation delivered through the inserted needles,

- Voll’s electropuncture — a method performed using a device known as an EAV organometer, used for both diagnosis and therapy,

- laser acupuncture — this relies on the action of laser light; it is a sterile, non-invasive, and painless method, and it tends to shorten treatment time to about 15 minutes.

So, how does acupuncture help us?

In Chinese tradition, it is believed that energy flows constantly through the human body, referred to as CHI, or vital energy. This energy is perpetually being generated, though it can be depleted by daily physical activity or built up through nutrition. The goal of acupuncture, I believe, is to balance this energy by stimulating certain acupoints.

Acupuncture can help reduce appetite, regulate metabolism and—perhaps most importantly—prevents feelings of weakness, dizziness, or low mood.
Sarah Gray11 Sarah Gray11 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Honestly, my take on acupuncture? Total waste of money if you're trying to lose weight. The diet part is fine, sure, but as far as suppressing hunger goes—it did absolutely zero for me.
Look, Jeffrey Edwards5 says discipline is everything, but you don't need needles to stay disciplined. To me, acupuncture feels more like paying someone to babysit you every week so you have someone to "report" to.
Don't expect any sympathy either—they're brutal. If you gain even a single pound, they'll make you feel like garbage.

It sounds pretty ridiculous to me, though—being treated like that after you've dumped a small fortune on this whole parody.
I mean, at the end of the day, you have to hold yourself accountable first. Once you actually do that, you don't need acupuncture anymore.
But hey, if having some outside authority figure helps someone stay on track, whatever... why not...
Jacob Wilson50 Jacob Wilson50 Active Member
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#7 ·
Jeffrey Edwards5 said:I’m heading back to see him for the third time now.
Wish me luck, I actually want this to work.

Wait, the THIRD time??? Did none of that even help you?
slylynx8 slylynx8 Member
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#8 ·
Look, I’ve personally used acupuncture to help clear up a few different health issues, so I’m definitely not a skeptic when it comes to how well it works... but honestly, there isn't any logical reason why anyone should have to deal with being insulted, no matter how prestigious or successful a doctor might be. I haven't had any direct run-ins with Dr. Car myself, but a close friend of mine was totally belittled by him just because she only lost about 0.6 pounds in a single week... and man, that is just zero percent professional. It’s really not okay (and honestly, those people who are working hard to drop weight in a private general practice shouldn't have to put up with that kind of attitude either).
Amy Miller Amy Miller Newcomer
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joined Feb 2003
#9 ·
An acquaintance of mine is currently undergoing the Emperor's treatment. The guy weighs about 240 pounds, yet this practitioner is prescribing him a breakfast consisting of a quarter of a pastry, a lunch of three servings of green beans, and a single banana for dinner. Honestly, I was floored when he told me that.
That is simply not how you lose weight healthily. Personally, I’ve always been a skeptic when it comes to "crash diets," regardless of whether they involve acupuncture or any other specialized therapy. In my view, everyone should just determine their own daily caloric limit and build a meal plan around it—focusing on foods that aren't cooked in heavy fats and prioritizing protein over carbohydrates. It really is that simple. Unfortunately, our calorie counts are ALWAYS set too low to actually leave us feeling satisfied.
Jeffrey Edwards5 Jeffrey Edwards5 Active Member
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#10 ·
Jacob Wilson50:
Why a third time? Because my self-discipline is non-existent and I clearly can't help myself. I know I'm just spinning my wheels and getting nowhere, but honestly, maybe one of these days common sense will finally kick in.
Sarah Gray11 hit the nail on the head.
I think you have to settle your own debts first. Once you've done that, you probably won't need acupuncture anymore.

I'm with you on that. Some people can handle it alone, but others need a drill sergeant breathing down their neck just to make sure they don't settle for losing two ounces when they should have lost a pound.
To each his own.
electrictinker18 electrictinker18 Member
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#11 ·
A friend of mine actually managed to drop quite a few pounds using acupuncture, and I have to say, I was genuinely floored by how great she looked—she was practically glowing with happiness and pride over her progress... right up until a few months later when the weight came rushing back, leaving her looking exactly the same as she did before she ever started the treatments.
So, sure, it looks like acupuncture "works" for weight loss, and honestly, just thinking about the massive bill you'd have to pay for those sessions is enough motivation for anyone, provided you actually stick to the strict lifestyle rules they set for you.
But once she stopped going for the needles and drifted away from those specific dietary and behavioral guidelines—which, let's be real, is incredibly hard to do when you've spent your entire life fueling your body in a completely different way—the weight just crawled right back on, and that’s really the kicker. The whole point is that you have to change the way your brain processes food and habits, whether you're using acupuncture as a crutch or not, though it definitely comes at a much higher price tag if you rely on it.
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#12 ·
Look, acupuncture isn't some magic word. It can definitely help, but if you keep sticking to your old habits, you aren't going to see any progress. It’s honestly funny how people are always hunting for some quick, magical fix for everything. That’s just not how it works—shortcuts in life are incredibly rare!

Anyway, I recently heard there are people in Washington, D.C. who specialize in acupuncture for weight loss based on spiritual principles. Does anyone here know more about that??

Apparently, they suggest following a diet based on blood types...
brightmarlin44 brightmarlin44 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#13 ·
Does anyone have a ballpark idea of what this might run me? I’ve decided that starting January 1st, I’m going to try to drop about 10 to 15 pounds, but I want to try doing it through acupuncture. I remember a few years back, some girls from my college days managed to slim down without any drama at all. 😲 The problem is, I absolutely live to eat, so maybe this could actually be a win for me.👍
restlesspanther1 restlesspanther1 Active Member
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#14 ·
I know two people who actually went through with it... and both of them ended up gaining every single pound they lost 🙄
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#15 ·
brightmarlin44 said:Does anyone have an idea what the damage might be? I've decided to try and drop about 10 to 15 pounds starting January 1st, but I want to use acupuncture to help me get there. I remember some girls from my college days doing it a few years back and they had no trouble at all. 😲The thing is, I really love food, so this could actually be a win for me.👍

But what about things like sports, yoga, or just eating right? Like, yoga can really kickstart your metabolism...
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#16 ·
restlesspanther1 said:I know a couple of people who actually tried it... and they both managed to drop all those extra pounds! 🙄

If they just went right back to bingeing like they did before losing the weight, it’s no surprise they ended up right back where they started! I learned that the hard way myself after my first attempt at a diet.
Neither acupuncture nor some weird cabbage soup diet is going to do the trick for them! I tried that soup once during a bad flu and, let me tell you, it was just a disaster.
Sean Nguyen4 Sean Nguyen4 Active Member
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#17 ·
Honestly, people, just get some discipline with your diet and you'll fix the weight issue. I see some of my friends eating like there's no tomorrow, then hitting the stationary bike every single day or grinding at the gym, and they’re still baffled why they can't lose a single pound or flatten their gut. It's pretty obvious why, I guess. 🤔 🙄
Mark Hill3 Mark Hill3 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2005
#18 ·
Losing weight through acupuncture 😬
Honestly, folks, just get out there and start moving—hit the gym or find some kind of exercise
http://www.us-fitness.com
dustytrucker9 dustytrucker9 Newcomer
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#19 ·
brightmarlin44 said:Anyone know how much this stuff costs? I've decided to drop maybe 10-15 lbs starting January 1st, but I want to try acupuncture. I remember some college friends using it a few years back and having zero issues.😲 Since I'm a big eater, this might actually work for me.👍

Best acupuncture is someone poking you in the arm every time you reach for a snack... just kidding... but honestly, might actually work.
My advice? Read the book life in zone and stop worrying about losing weight—just learn how to eat properly. I read it 18 months ago, dropped 30 lbs, and haven't gained it back because I stick to the rules.
And don't get me started on "healthy food"—that's basically a myth. You can eat anything, you just have to eat it the right way. Avoid those herbal supplement scams too; they just sell you overpriced powders for profit, and you don't actually learn any habits. They take your money for a few months, but nobody checks if your bloodwork is actually okay afterward. The goal isn't just shedding pounds; it's getting your blood stats right before you start any diet, then checking them after.
Long story short... just go with the zone.
restlesspanther1 restlesspanther1 Active Member
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#20 ·
jadesailor14 said:If they just went right back to binge eating like they always did after losing the weight, then obviously they’re going to pack those pounds right back on.
in that case, neither acupuncture nor some weird cabbage soup diet is going to save them.

Isn't the real issue just having a decent diet, rather than relying on acupuncture? 😉

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