Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

Joshua Myers432 said:Let’s be realistic—what can the West actually do? They slapped sanctions on Russia, armed Ukraine, and isolated Russia. That’s the extent of it. If the Russians are strong enough to annex parts of Ukraine, you can howl at the Moon all you want.

Enough said.

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Russia has pulled about 80% of its troops away from the borders near the Baltic Sea. It looks like they're desperately trying to plug holes in their front lines before everything just completely falls apart.

So much for all those big, scary threats toward Finland and Sweden and that "unprecedented retaliation" they promised if those guys joined NATO. Turns out, talk is cheap.

crimsoncyclist71 said:And what does an annexation actually achieve for them? Absolutely nothing, as long as Ukraine keeps fighting. And they will, backed by massive amounts of military aid from the world's largest economies. What exactly can Ruzsiaj do? Bark at the Moon and throw around nuclear threats because they're clearly losing the war.

It means they’ll finally be able to claim they brought Russian territory back to the motherland: Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson. We're just waiting on Odesa, Kharkiv, and Kyiv—the heart of it all 😁 😁.

They’ll just annex Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia—it’s basically Hitler’s playbook with Poland all over again.
The Ukrainians aren't just going to sit around howling at the moon; they're moving forward with the counteroffensive.
Sending 300,000 people into Ukraine who don't actually want to fight isn't going to be some massive long-term roadblock. Sure, it might slow down the liberation process, but there's no way they're stopping or calling it quits.
The Ukrainians already survived the absolute worst when things were at their bleakest and they were practically fighting empty-handed.
Now, things have shifted—they finally have the gear and the morale to back it up.
Meanwhile, the Russian military is looking weaker by the day.

Revenger20 said:We'll see.

There’s no stopping until Donetsk is liberated.

A quick update on Mariupol—heard some more explosions echoing through different parts of the city today. A few more defenders from Azovstal have been liberated, specifically some Marines this time, along with civilians who were being held by the Russians 🎉 🎉 🎉.

Nathan Evans78 said:In your opinion, how much of what you just listed is actually driven by the sanctions from the EU and the USA? Could you try to break that down in percentages for me?

No clue.

dustyowl29 said:They’ll just annex Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia—it’s basically Hitler’s playbook with Poland all over again.
The Ukrainians aren't just going to sit around howling at the moon; they're moving forward with the counteroffensive.
Sending 300,000 people into Ukraine who don't actually want to fight isn't going to be some massive long-term roadblock. Sure, it might slow down the liberation process, but there's no way they're stopping or calling it quits.
The Ukrainians already survived the absolute worst when things were at their bleakest and they were practically fighting empty-handed.
Now, things have shifted—they finally have the gear and the morale to back it up.
Meanwhile, the Russian military is looking weaker by the day.

Exactly. Everything the Russians could possibly throw into this seven-month stretch of war—from heavy hardware to boots on the ground—has already been deployed. They can't do any better than this, because if they could, they would have pulled the trigger on it all by now. Of course, an extra wave of mobilization will drag out the process of reclaiming occupied lands, but the end result remains unchanged.☕

Kate Cook27 said:It means they’ll finally be able to claim they brought Russian territory back to the motherland: Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson. We're just waiting on Odesa, Kharkiv, and Kyiv—the heart of it all 😁 😁.

That also implies those regions are officially part of Russia according to The Kremlin—just like Crimea. So, does an American strike on Red Crimea still count as a red line, or is that off the table now?

Revenger20 said:What about Crimea?

Crimea, obviously—but only once every last occupier leaves Ukrainian territory and retreats back to the 1991 borders.

Revenger20 said:Wait, they don't have them? Just look at Israel.

So we're just supposed to believe those columns of vehicles that even the Finns themselves have already debunked?

Basic logic tells you that if resources start drying up, there's going to be more wars fought over them, not fewer. It doesn't work the other way around.

It’s honestly wild how people are so blinded that they can't see the current international order is basically finished, and we're heading toward a world where "cowboy diplomacy" becomes the new norm.

Russians are only hovering near the Finnish border, right? Those kilometer-long convoys heading toward Georgia and Kazakhstan are pure fiction... not to mention all those flights and ticket prices that have gone absolutely through the roof.

Revenger20 said:How can they not have them? Just look at Israel.

Are we really talking about columns that even the Americans themselves have already denied?

Basic logic dictates that if resources are dwindling, wars over them will increase. It doesn't work the other way around.

It is truly fascinating how people, blinded by their own perspectives, fail to see that an international order of this type is finished, and that pure cowboy diplomacy will become increasingly prevalent across the globe.

Where on earth are you getting the idea that resources are running low? I've been hearing since the 1970s that we only have about 50 years of oil left...

nimbleviper3 said:With all those massive profits from selling energy and raw materials, he actually had the chance to push his country toward real progress in science, medicine, and innovation. Instead of being remembered for that, the world is going to remember them for nothing but vodka, seizing territory, and those violent hordes that, thank God, are currently fighting on every single front.

👍

I couldn't agree more.

dustyowl29 said:That was a massive amount of gas. I mean, how much volume can you actually fit into 746 miles just a single pipe?

1200*10³*r²π

But why on earth are we feeding them? 🤦

The dilemma remains for tomorrow. Should we declare war on Ukraine immediately since he's holding parts of Majcica under occupation, or issue some stinking ultimatum?

I assume he doesn't care anymore; the man is dead in more ways than one. He might as well go full retard...

It’s honestly a stroke of luck that Ukraine joined NATO... if they hadn't, we wouldn't be staring down this mess right now. For Putin, NATO is nothing more than a convenient pretext to invade Ukraine, just like those baseless claims about chemical or nuclear weapons labs. To him, Ukrainians aren't even a distinct people.

If NATO hadn't expanded, we’d probably be dealing with an invasion of Poland, the Baltic states, the Czech Republic, Slovakia... maybe even the US. Europe would feel much closer to the 19th century than the 21st.

That’s why this criminal, KGB-style gang needs to be wiped out once and for all, no matter what the cost might be. ☕

cosmicgull52 said:But why on earth are we feeding them? 🤦

The dilemma remains for tomorrow. Should we declare war on Ukraine immediately since he's holding parts of Majcica under occupation, or issue some stinking ultimatum?

I assume he doesn't care anymore; the man is dead in more ways than one. He might as well go full retard...

Honestly, nobody gives a damn what that guy announces. Those proclamations aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

What actually matters is the situation on the ground. Which means, even more aggressive military support for Ukraine. ☕

Melissa Rivera5 said:I mean, I'm pretty sure this is just the blueprint for when they actually pull the trigger on an annexation. Once that happens, Russia will probably just officially declare war on Ukraine, teaming up with Belarus for a full-blown invasion and takeover. They’ll likely try to run it using those professional Belarusian units while just throwing Russian infantry at the problem like cannon fodder. At least, that's my guess.

So yeah, maybe they'll just declare war and launch some massive, coordinated attack on all of Ukraine at once. I guess that's always an option.

But then how on earth are they going to defend Belarus while trying to keep a lid on all those potential internal riots?

Quote : The Belarusian military currently Has 50,000 soldiers and officers

If he actually goes through with that, he'll be an even bigger idiot than Putin.

gFlores said:Seriously, some weird games are being played here—there’s just zero logic to any of this. Why did Putin dive headfirst into this mess? And why is the West trying to tear down Russia when they're basically irrelevant anyway, aside from having all those nukes? What's the point in wrecking a country that holds the world's biggest nuclear arsenal—what's the actual endgame there? And how do you even think you can win by sending fewer troops into a massive place like Ukraine than we sent into the Appalachia back in the day?! It honestly feels like a giant, intentional attempt to destabilize the whole world—but who would actually want that? The whole thing feels like one big glitchy simulation... maybe there's some truth to that theory about us living in a simulation 😉

Any country that tries to grab someone else's land needs to be crushed, plain and simple. That's the only way to make sure nobody else gets the bright idea.

Gregory Ramos3 said:But then how on earth are they going to defend Belarus while trying to keep a lid on all those potential internal riots?

Quote : The Belarusian military currently Has 50,000 soldiers and officers

If he actually goes through with that, he'll be an even bigger idiot than Putin.

Look, I've been saying this since day one, and people just laughed at me—like, how can a country with only 40k soldiers even dream of starting a war with Ukraine? Meanwhile, those Iskanders are staring right at Poland.

Honestly, Lukashenko is toast the second his little buddy falls.