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Arming Ukraine

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Timothy Kim9 Timothy Kim9 Active Member
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#541 ·
From what I can gather, if an S-300 doesn't have its
radar running constantly—and these things are mobile, after all—it’s a real pain for the Russians to pin them down.
So, getting these over to Ukraine actually makes sense.
Thnx
swiftjackal11 swiftjackal11 Regular
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joined May 2018
#542 ·
Timothy Kim9 said:From what I can gather, if an S-300 doesn't have its
radar running constantly—and these things are mobile, after all—it’s a real pain for the Russians to pin them down.
So, getting these over to Ukraine actually makes sense.
Thnx

If they're that easy to take out, then what's even the point?🤷
velvetbadger11 velvetbadger11 Member
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joined Apr 2022
#543 ·
I would go so far as to wager that those Polish MiGs are already flying sorties over Ukraine; it just seems that nobody is actually talking about it.
Ryan Morales4 Ryan Morales4 Member
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joined Mar 2022
#544 ·
The brave and bold Slovak government has dispatched S-300 systems..

Ursula von der Leyen was in Kyiv..

Meanwhile, our own cowards, led by that weakling Plenković, aren't sending any weapons or equipment, nor are they even showing their faces in public..
Disgusting!
Absolute cowards!
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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joined Jan 2018
#545 ·
velvetbadger11 said:I would go so far as to wager that those Polish MiGs are already flying sorties over Ukraine; it just seems that nobody is actually talking about it.

That could easily be the reality. For the public, it’s all just theater: one side begs for immediate aircraft delivery, while the other responds with excuses about why they can't...
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#546 ·
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status...C-zcyt1v4pAAAA

The Brits just confirmed that there's a shipment of 120 armored vehicles and some anti-ship missiles headed to Ukraine.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#547 ·
The Briton is being specific here, but which armored vehicles is he actually talking about?
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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joined Feb 2022
#548 ·
It’s looking more and more like those Mastiffs they mentioned might actually be coming through.

https://www.army-technology.com/proj...asra%2C%20Iraq.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#549 ·
Not bad for what it’s meant to do.
But let’s be real—it isn't exactly an offensive powerhouse.
So, does this mean the Czechs are just sending tanks... for now?!
Douglas Sanchez5 Douglas Sanchez5 Member
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#550 ·
It honestly feels like the West is constantly playing catch-up—always reacting to what’s happening on the ground instead of actually looking ahead at what’s going to be needed next. For instance, that American land lease deal hasn't even cleared the necessary hurdles yet, especially with that two-week Congressional recess hanging over everything.

If we haven't seen massive, large-scale training for Western air defense systems, Western jets, advanced artillery, rockets, and all those other high-end toys the Ukrainians are using since the very start of this war, then the reality on the ground is probably much grimmer than anything we're seeing in the news reports. And don't even get me started on the need for a huge, rapid ramp-up in Switchblade production and all those other drone types.

The West is basically doing the bare minimum when it comes to weapons shipments and sanctions—it's just sad, really. They aren't going "all in."
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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#551 ·
Douglas Sanchez5 said:It honestly feels like the West is constantly playing catch-up—always reacting to what’s happening on the ground instead of actually looking ahead at what’s going to be needed next. For instance, that American land lease deal hasn't even cleared the necessary hurdles yet, especially with that two-week Congressional recess hanging over everything.

If we haven't seen massive, large-scale training for Western air defense systems, Western jets, advanced artillery, rockets, and all those other high-end toys the Ukrainians are using since the very start of this war, then the reality on the ground is probably much grimmer than anything we're seeing in the news reports. And don't even get me started on the need for a huge, rapid ramp-up in Switchblade production and all those other drone types.

The West is basically doing the bare minimum when it comes to weapons shipments and sanctions—it's just sad, really. They aren't going "all in."

Germany is the only bottleneck; everything else is moving along just fine.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#552 ·
Word is there’s some massive push coming—a full-scale assault on Ukrainian forces over in the East.
Obviously, that calls for a countermove, solid tactics, and a few different strategic plays depending on how things shake out.
Basically, we need the generals and planners on it.
And yeah, I mean the folks in the West, too.

I was digging through an analysis earlier that suggested the Russians can't afford to cross or even reach the Dnieper. (They already struck out trying to hit Northern or Central Ukraine, after all.)
But man, if they actually pull that off, it means the Ukrainian military would have to retreat and surrender ground they're currently holding. Not to mention the heavy casualties that would come with it.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#553 ·
The UK could potentially send over some lighter anti-ship stuff, maybe something like the Sea Spear... or even the Sea Skua, just stepping things up a notch...
Or honestly, they might actually roll out those Harpoons, especially since they’re looking to phase them out soon anyway. I just can't wrap my head around how the Ukrainians would actually launch them. If they could find a way to integrate them quickly with their aircraft, man, that would be an absolute game changer.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#554 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Not bad for what it’s meant to do.
But let’s be real—it isn't exactly an offensive powerhouse.
So, does this mean the Czechs are just sending tanks... for now?!

and the Poles
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#555 ·
hollowdriver13 said:https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status...C-zcyt1v4pAAAA

The Brits just confirmed that there's a shipment of 120 armored vehicles and some anti-ship missiles headed to Ukraine.

A bit more detail here:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/statu...42016920637444
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#556 ·
coastalbison6 said:A bit more detail here:
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/statu...42016920637444

With all these loitering munitions—you know, those suicide drones👍—life is looking pretty rough if you're sitting in Russian armor right now.
Joseph Clark37 Joseph Clark37 Active Member
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#557 ·
I’m hoping they get those anti-ship missiles ready soon... so we can watch those aggressor ships go up in flames.
wanderingmaker3 wanderingmaker3 Member
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joined Dec 2009
#558 ·
Damn, at this rate the Ukrainians are going to finish the war armed to the teeth.

With that many Javelins and NLAWs, the Russians won't be able to move an inch without getting hit.
placidrider48 placidrider48 Active Member
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#559 ·
Joseph Clark37 said:I’m hoping they get those anti-ship missiles ready soon... so we can watch those aggressor ships go up in flames.

They’ve already crushed them with a single APC. I guess if we actually manage to figure out how to use whatever the Britons are supposedly sending over, things might get pretty messy...😁
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#560 ·
Joseph Clark37 said:I’m hoping they get those anti-ship missiles ready soon... so we can watch those aggressor ships go up in flames.

They've been staying way out at sea ever since the Azov guys snatched that patrol boat equipped with an anti-tank missile—and honestly, even a Tochka hitting an alligator in Berdyansk didn't do much to stop them.🕺 😁

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