The start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (Part 1)

Kazakhstan refused to recognize the so-called LPR and DPR, and they also declined to send any troops into Ukraine.

Kudos to the Kazakhs—but I suppose you should start preparing yourselves, given that you’re now right there on the list alongside Moldova and Georgia.

gentleharbor3 said:If the US Army had even a single-digit number of nukes back in the 90s,
we’d all be speaking some weird hybrid language today.
Russia has 6,255.
It’s fascinating how many people take everything they read
on Twitter and stuff as gospel, ignoring the fact that information warfare
is a core component of every conflict, especially in the age of
the internet and social media...
The Ukrainians aren't going to win this war
because if Putin loses his mind, he'll just level everything to the ground.
And based on the messages coming out of the White House, it's obvious
that lowering the guard and returning to negotiations is smarter
than continuing this stubborn defiance.
That's the reality.
The problem is that Americans completely misinterpret
their own experiences from the American Civil War when looking at this war.

Of course they can't. But pride is stronger than Hitler's nukes.

So, Kazakhstan basically told Russia to kick rocks when it came to recognizing the independence of Luhansk and Donetsk. It’s a pretty wild move considering how tight they usually are with Moscow, and it's definitely something that's got Putin scratching his head.

Whoa, okay, didn't see that one coming.

Christian Torres3 said:Anyone with half a brain is on the right side here.

That's just how it is for Ukraine.

Quincy:

IamBlackShip As stated by: The Associated Press reports that his response to an American offer to evacuate him and his family was quite blunt: "I don't need a ride; I need ammunition." 🙏

Just another naive, gullible, useful idiot... someone more than willing to die for interests that aren't even their own.

The fundamental issue lies in what is about to occur. The unnecessary loss of life includes the innocent Ukrainian children.Because of him specifically, Ukraine's economy is currently in shambles, and the nation has been compromised in just about every other conceivable way.

If that comedian Zelenskyy had actually honored the terms signed by the Ukrainians in the Minsk II agreement, we might find ourselves in a very different reality.

One really ought to avoid fleeing now like a common coward. For eight years, he played the fool and dragged his feet while civilians were being shelled—civilians whom he was supposedly sworn to protect as their president.It appears you have provided only a single letter. Please provide the full text you wish for me to rewrite, and I will proceed with the transformation according to your specific requirements.

The former administration had the audacity to grant amnesty to those paramilitary thugs who spent years slaughtering women and children across occupied territories, and now we are expected to accept them as legitimate police officers and even a Deputy Prime Minister.

It is quite frankly impossible to imagine that Zelenskyy—given his somewhat naive disposition—could ever grant amnesty to those who have endured eight years of relentless shelling and daily attacks, only to then sign off on some sort of peaceful reintegration.

Because Zelenskyy was far too preoccupied with his own ego and the comfort of his position to take any real risks, he spent his time trembling at the thought that neo-Nazi factions might actually unseat him just to protect his precious little seat. He put millions of Ukrainians in harm's way, yet he maintains the absurd delusion that he is blameless and everyone else is to blame. For eight years, the Ukrainians have simply played dumb. It appears certain individuals were under the naive impression that the British and Americans would actually step up to defend them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It appears they are facing the exact same situation we are, being hit with those weapon sanctions. It forces them to charge at tanks completely unarmed, much like our own history. It is truly repulsive... absolutely disgusting... I can barely contain my contempt for Biden.

Oh, please. These self-serving opportunists, these petty tyrants and collaborators—they aren't statesmen. Not by a long shot.

Absolutely revolting. Truly nauseating. Between this and that senile Biden, I am genuinely losing my composure. It would be quite refreshing if those absolute disgraces finally decided to stand by their word and honor their promises for once. But then again, why bother? They are far too busy lounging in some six-star air-conditioned resort, basking in luxury like the treacherous frauds they truly are.

The Airbnb model is absolute garbage.

Jeremy Peterson4 said:So, Kazakhstan basically told Russia to kick rocks when it came to recognizing the independence of Luhansk and Donetsk. It’s a pretty wild move considering how tight they usually are with Moscow, and it's definitely something that's got Putin scratching his head.

Whoa, okay, didn't see that one coming.

I wonder if they'll end up on the list for "denazification" too?

gentlecrane8 said:Kazakhstan is really shooting itself in the foot here. This is basically an open invitation for militants to come in and finish what they started.

Kazakhstan did exactly what any sane nation would do: they refused to send their troops to occupy another country.
There are no allies for Putin, aside from Lukashenko, who doesn't really have a choice since his country is essentially a Russian colony.

Kyle Nelson2 said:I wonder if they'll end up on the list for "denazification" too?

No. The Finns and the Swedes will be first...

Drew Booth60 said:Word is the Russians had something like 180,000 troops ready before the invasion, but according to Western intelligence, they're actually running with about a third of that—roughly 60,000 soldiers.

They managed to storm into Kyiv in less than 48 hours. Now, look, Ukraine is a massive country—it's huge—so I honestly find it strange how many people seem convinced that Russia is losing this thing. To be fair, I doubt NATO would have been any faster or more successful at it.

It’s pretty tough to pin down actual Russian losses, especially since the Ukrainians tend to release data without much proof—they've even been caught being dishonest a few times—so I'm leaning towards the idea that those Ukrainian numbers regarding Russian personnel and equipment are way overblown.

I was expecting much stiffer resistance and a lot more headaches for Russia, but maybe that's just starting to happen now with the fight for Kyiv. It still doesn't quite click for me why Putin decided to hit Ukraine with this level of force, considering most Russians actually feel some sympathy for them and see them as kin. Even though I think Russia is doing better than okay on the military front right now, all of this is probably going to end up causing more harm than good for Russia in the long run—and for Putin too.

Oh sure, you've got all that Russian data and Putin telling nothing but the absolute truth.

Kyle Nelson2 said:I wonder if they'll end up on the list for "denazification" too?

Anything can happen if you start acting like Hitler.

swiftjackal11 said:Of course they can't. But pride is stronger than Hitler's nukes.

Easy for you to say from your comfy armchair.
The people actually dying out there only have one life.
Life is the ultimate value.
And things in Ukraine aren't exactly settled enough
to claim that 90% of Ukrainians agree
on which direction they should take.

Rebecca Lewis7 said:Quincy:

IamBlackShip As stated by: The Associated Press reports that his response to an American offer to evacuate him and his family was quite blunt: "I don't need a ride; I need ammunition." 🙏

Just another naive, gullible, useful idiot... someone more than willing to die for interests that aren't even their own.

The fundamental issue lies in what is about to occur. The unnecessary loss of life includes the innocent Ukrainian children.Because of him specifically, Ukraine's economy is currently in shambles, and the nation has been compromised in just about every other conceivable way.

If that comedian Zelenskyy had actually honored the terms signed by the Ukrainians in the Minsk II agreement, we might find ourselves in a very different reality.

One really ought to avoid fleeing now like a common coward. For eight years, he played the fool and dragged his feet while civilians were being shelled—civilians whom he was supposedly sworn to protect as their president.It appears you have provided only a single letter. Please provide the full text you wish for me to rewrite, and I will proceed with the transformation according to your specific requirements.

The former administration had the audacity to grant amnesty to those paramilitary thugs who spent years slaughtering women and children across occupied territories, and now we are expected to accept them as legitimate police officers and even a Deputy Prime Minister.

It is quite frankly impossible to imagine that Zelenskyy—given his somewhat naive disposition—could ever grant amnesty to those who have endured eight years of relentless shelling and daily attacks, only to then sign off on some sort of peaceful reintegration.

Because Zelenskyy was far too preoccupied with his own ego and the comfort of his position to take any real risks, he spent his time trembling at the thought that neo-Nazi factions might actually unseat him just to protect his precious little seat. He put millions of Ukrainians in harm's way, yet he maintains the absurd delusion that he is blameless and everyone else is to blame. For eight years, the Ukrainians have simply played dumb. It appears certain individuals were under the naive impression that the British and Americans would actually step up to defend them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It appears they are facing the exact same situation we are, being hit with those weapon sanctions. It forces them to charge at tanks completely unarmed, much like our own history. It is truly repulsive... absolutely disgusting... I can barely contain my contempt for Biden.

Oh, please. These self-serving opportunists, these petty tyrants and collaborators—they aren't statesmen. Not by a long shot.

Absolutely revolting. Truly nauseating. Between this and that senile Biden, I am genuinely losing my composure. It would be quite refreshing if those absolute disgraces finally decided to stand by their word and honor their promises for once. But then again, why bother? They are far too busy lounging in some six-star air-conditioned resort, basking in luxury like the treacherous frauds they truly are.

The Airbnb model is absolute garbage.

Just another one talking nonsense.

America stands with Ukraine.

gentleharbor3 said:If the US Army had even a single-digit number of nukes back in the 90s,
we’d all be speaking some weird hybrid language today.
Russia has 6,255.
It’s fascinating how many people take everything they read
on Twitter and stuff as gospel, ignoring the fact that information warfare
is a core component of every conflict, especially in the age of
the internet and social media...
The Ukrainians aren't going to win this war
because if Putin loses his mind, he'll just level everything to the ground.
And based on the messages coming out of the White House, it's obvious
that lowering the guard and returning to negotiations is smarter
than continuing this stubborn defiance.
That's the reality.
The problem is that Americans completely misinterpret
their own experiences from the American Civil War when looking at this war.

A nuke will wipe him and his people out too. Dear citizens. That’s the "beauty" of the bomb... And what negotiations? Do you see anywhere suggesting the Ukrainians actually want to negotiate? They are fighting in front of their own homes against heavy weapons and tanks. This isn't happening in Moscow.

velvetmason14 said:Unfortunately, I tend to agree that this is the closest version of the truth.

The West and the Ukrainians seem more focused on Twitter and information warfare while the Russians continue their advance. They really should have prepared for all of this much more seriously. It looks like they were convinced right up until the last second that Putin was just bluffing.

Interesting read:
ECONOMIST WARNS / Everyone is avoiding the one sanction that might actually work, the EU is weakening, inflation is climbing, and politicians are just hiding behind slogans.

The West warned an invasion was coming, but I didn't buy it. (Why would you trust the same crowd that went looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and found absolutely nothing?) But this time, they were right. Defying all rational logic, he attacked, and he clearly has a specific agenda. It appears his goal is a rapid regime change in Kyiv, thinking that will be enough. He still hasn't grasped that the will of the people actually matters. Does he honestly think he can hold a country under occupation for years? That would economically bankrupt Russia.

I honestly don't buy the idea that they’re only using a third of their strength either. Their whole strategy was clearly designed for a lightning strike—I mean, that paratrooper drop near New York City just proves they were already plotting to take over Washington, D.C., and probably swallow Zelenskyy whole before anyone could even react. Now they've thrown everything they've got into the mix, especially targeting the capital, but even then, it doesn't look like it'll be enough.
Plus, they're bringing in those Chechen fighters now. And you've got Belarus massing troops along the southern border. I heard Kazakhstan basically turned them down because nobody even bothered to ask them for help in the first place, right?
It really doesn't look like things are going according to the Russ playbook. Can they actually pull this off by winging it as they go? Honestly, every single day that passes, it feels less and less likely.

Nancy Gomez26 said:While Turkey calls for decisive moves, Poland is out there actually shipping munitions and weapons.

...and after the European Union summit, there’s this "strong message" (according to the headline) about how they will take appropriate steps. (It sounds just like listening to some lying minister at a local diner, John Doe)

Two days ago, Srna said this: Darijo Srna: Ukraine is like a second home to me, there's no way I'm leaving.

Fast forward to today, and here is the update: Srna and Vukojević have left Kyiv.

I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions.

Chris Chase5 said:A nuke will wipe him and his people out too. Dear citizens. That’s the "beauty" of the bomb... And what negotiations? Do you see anywhere suggesting the Ukrainians actually want to negotiate? They are fighting in front of their own homes against heavy weapons and tanks. This isn't happening in Moscow.

A nuclear strike would hit you too, so maybe take it down a notch, turn off the PlayStation, and get some fresh air...

The massive street protests for Ukraine we expected to see across major European cities just haven't happened.
It looks like folks in Europe have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

gentleharbor3 said:I think Zelenskyy will survive,
and all this pathetic sentimentality will age poorly in some Sean Penn documentary.
I highly doubt he's some local hero charging tanks with nothing.
He spends more time on Twitter than your average armchair general,
but information warfare is still a critical part of combat,
so credit where it's due regarding keeping Ukrainian morale up!
He handles that perfectly.

Just a blowhard with his head stuck in the clouds. How did he even land that job? Clearly, it was through protest movements, much like how a radical group like the Occupy movement would have taken over if Americans were just a little more unruly. He is completely unfit for the role; he’s nothing but a planted globalist figurehead, a useful idiot.
He could have actually sat down with Putin and hammered out the terms of the Minsk II agreement to prevent any of this from happening. But no, everyone acts like they're clueless and shocked, acting like Putin just lost his mind and decided to handle things his own way.