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Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

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Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#501 ·
dustymarlin10 said:And who says I'm not growing food?
I grow stuff right here in the city too.
Just for the record, though, it's March, so it's not like the garden is exactly overflowing right now...

Oh, please. We had snow everywhere until this morning. 😉

Goodness, some people really can say some pretty ridiculous things.

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dustymarlin10 dustymarlin10 Active Member
238 messages
joined Nov 2015
#502 ·
I’d say it was pure malice.
Nicholas Cook6 Nicholas Cook6 Member
12 messages
joined Jan 2019
#503 ·
Personally, I’d much rather spend a year stuck out in some rural isolation than deal with even a single month of this urban chaos.
I’m telling you, just my two cents.

And given how tragic things are right now, we’re going to see the fallout again—people being forced out of their small towns while cities get unnecessarily choked off.

I mean, look, it’s honestly pathetic that someone living out in the sticks isn't allowed to just drive into town to grab groceries, hit up a pharmacy, or check on their house or vacation home—it's just plain stupid.

But at the end of the day, the blame shouldn't fall on those people who didn't stick to the isolation rules—not even them, really, but the government for letting it slide in the first place.
Drew Johnson2 Drew Johnson2 Active Member
116 messages
joined Jan 2018
#504 ·
I happen to be staying in a major metropolitan area while all of this is unfolding... meanwhile, folks back in my small hometown can't even make it to a bank, and as far as grocery shopping goes, there isn't a single large supermarket to speak of, just a handful of tiny corner stores where if you're lucky, you might actually snag a chicken breast before they run out... They can't even head out into the countryside because those roads cross over into another county... At least I know I can still make it to a pharmacy... The neighboring township doesn't even have a gas station, so people actually need a permit just to refuel their cars.

People who have spent their entire lives living in the big cities... they truly haven't the slightest clue what this situation has done to those of us living in the smaller towns...
Nicholas Cook6 Nicholas Cook6 Member
12 messages
joined Jan 2019
#505 ·
Drew Johnson2 said:I happen to be staying in a major metropolitan area while all of this is unfolding... meanwhile, folks back in my small hometown can't even make it to a bank, and as far as grocery shopping goes, there isn't a single large supermarket to speak of, just a handful of tiny corner stores where if you're lucky, you might actually snag a chicken breast before they run out... They can't even head out into the countryside because those roads cross over into another county... At least I know I can still make it to a pharmacy... The neighboring township doesn't even have a gas station, so people actually need a permit just to refuel their cars.

People who have spent their entire lives living in the big cities... they truly haven't the slightest clue what this situation has done to those of us living in the smaller towns...

Where I’m from, things work a bit differently. The "big city" is 9.3 miles basically wherever I want it to be since the whole county is essentially one unit. A little luck and some timing goes a long way when you're dealing with these insane restrictions.

They’ve got two chest freezers packed tight and a full barn of livestock.
Food is practically infinite. They just go about their usual farm chores like nothing is happening.

Me, on the other hand, I'm in the city—lucky me, I'm stuck at home with a garden and a garage, so I'm mostly just losing my mind.
If I were living in an apartment, I’d probably be losing it within a few days.

It’s like a freaking utopia out there.
Drew Johnson2 Drew Johnson2 Active Member
116 messages
joined Jan 2018
#506 ·
It all really comes down to how the municipality is structured... On my island, for instance, there is one specific area that falls under a certain municipality, yet to actually drive there physically, you find yourself trekking through two other separate jurisdictions first. It is frankly absurd that islands are subdivided into multiple municipalities like this, and I suspect we are about to see exactly why that creates such a mess...
electricbadger89 electricbadger89 Regular
423 messages
joined May 2019
#507 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:I don't know if I've already made this clear—I'm pretty sure I have—but let me say it one more time: I don't care about being bored. It’s not a problem for me that I can't hang out with anyone... I don't mind missing out on coffee dates or trips to the hair salon. Honestly, I could sit at home for another month if that's what it takes.

But I do want the ability to at least pop into the nearby grocery store to grab some bread every other day, and I need to be able to hit up a larger supermarket once a week to stock up on essentials—you know, things like fresh fruit, veggies, and meat at the kind of places I've always shopped, all at normal, reasonable prices.

For crying out loud—is that really so hard to wrap your head around?!

And while we're talking about money:
Everything at the local corner store is marked up by 30-50%.
So, how long am I expected to keep shopping like this? Two weeks? Two months?

And nobody seems to see the issue here? 🤦

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I once had a Woman from Washington, D.C. tell me that if public transit gets cut, it's my own fault for not driving a car. Then, when movement was restricted, she basically said it was my fault for choosing to live in a small town that lacks the necessary infrastructure.

I finally snapped and told her that people from the big cities should just shut up and stay out of it because they clearly have no clue what they're talking about.

The worst part is they actually support this absolute nonsense of a policy because they have zero concept of what it's like to live under these conditions.
darkotter35 darkotter35 Active Member
57 messages
joined Jul 2018
#508 ·
Just cruised from Washington, D.C. all the way out to Appalachia without hitting a single checkpoint.
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
376 messages
joined Aug 2017
#509 ·
electricbadger89 said:Signature

I once had a Woman from Washington, D.C. tell me that if public transit gets cut, it's my own fault for not driving a car. Then, when movement was restricted, she basically said it was my fault for choosing to live in a small town that lacks the necessary infrastructure.

I finally snapped and told her that people from the big cities should just shut up and stay out of it because they clearly have no clue what they're talking about.

The worst part is they actually support this absolute nonsense of a policy because they have zero concept of what it's like to live under these conditions.

That Woman from D.C. sounds like a real sweetheart. You can tell you actually care about people, because if they're gonna be like that, you feel like you *have* to help them—even though they're totally hopeless.
Tyler Ruiz502 Tyler Ruiz502 Active Member
157 messages
joined May 2018
#510 ·
Since I’m not really going anywhere—and honestly, keeping up with the news has been exhausting enough as it is—I completely missed the memo regarding the residence info. Are we talking about the municipality, the city... or what exactly?

If we were to head out from D.C. toward Mount Rainier, would that even be doable? I’m assuming Zumberak is off the table since it's outside the city limits, right? Also, is Central Park open for biking or jogging?

It’ll just be family, not a whole group, obviously.

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Samuel Parker Samuel Parker Active Member
166 messages
joined Oct 2017
#511 ·
I haven't left the San Francisco area since May 30th, and with the buses being out of commission lately, I haven't even stepped foot outside the Dubrovnik River. Honestly, the boredom is starting to get to me. When will I finally manage to leave this little microcosm?
Casey Flores Casey Flores Member
15 messages
joined Nov 2016
#512 ·
Jose Scott3 said:Shame on you. Why don't you come try a shift at my job before you start calling everything "spin"...

The point was that there’s a whole bunch of roles in the public sector that just don't exist in the private sector—jobs where people actually work instead of just sitting around drinking coffee. So why wouldn't a young guy want to jump into those public sector roles ASAP if they're actually legitimate careers? But no, you'd rather just label them all lazy...

I have no idea who Horvat is.

Look, buddy, I genuinely believe you work in the public sector and aren't just some cushy bureaucrat—and I mean that sincerely, no sarcasm intended... The real issue is the people who actually do nothing, and honestly, they make up 80%, if not more, of the government workforce. But you’re part of the problem too, though I’ll get to why that is in a bit... You're wasting your breath, Zuce, venting to the wrong crowd. There's no point trying to justify yourselves on a forum like Reddit to the private sector folks who are currently looking to trim the fat... You should be taking this straight to all those deadwood employees in the public sector, starting with your own boss. But you won't do that, because deep down, you're just too much of a conformist...
George Murphy12 George Murphy12 Member
40 messages
joined Apr 2020
#513 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:I don't know if I've already made this clear—I'm pretty sure I have—but let me say it one more time: I don't care about being bored. It’s not a problem for me that I can't hang out with anyone... I don't mind missing out on coffee dates or trips to the hair salon. Honestly, I could sit at home for another month if that's what it takes.

But I do want the ability to at least pop into the nearby grocery store to grab some bread every other day, and I need to be able to hit up a larger supermarket once a week to stock up on essentials—you know, things like fresh fruit, veggies, and meat at the kind of places I've always shopped, all at normal, reasonable prices.

For crying out loud—is that really so hard to wrap your head around?!

And while we're talking about money:
Everything at the local corner store is marked up by 30-50%.
So, how long am I expected to keep shopping like this? Two weeks? Two months?

And nobody seems to see the issue here? 🤦

Of course not. I've already posted about this—we live in a tiny town with nothing but two little shops, so you see how bad the selection and prices are. You can only get out of town if you have a permit...
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
376 messages
joined Aug 2017
#514 ·
Tyler Ruiz502 said:Since I’m not really going anywhere—and honestly, keeping up with the news has been exhausting enough as it is—I completely missed the memo regarding the residence info. Are we talking about the municipality, the city... or what exactly?

If we were to head out from D.C. toward Mount Rainier, would that even be doable? I’m assuming Zumberak is off the table since it's outside the city limits, right? Also, is Central Park open for biking or jogging?

It’ll just be family, not a whole group, obviously.

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Lady, just dress up like a bear and head out for a jog in the Appalachian Mountains. If a cop stops you, just throw some Appalachian snacks at them. Trust me, those police officers will turn into little cubs in no time.

(just kidding)
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
376 messages
joined Aug 2017
#515 ·
Samuel Parker said:I haven't left the San Francisco area since May 30th, and with the buses being out of commission lately, I haven't even stepped foot outside the Dubrovnik River. Honestly, the boredom is starting to get to me. When will I finally manage to leave this little microcosm?

Ever thought about growing weed?

Supposedly, the first couple of weeks are pretty boring, then things start happening, you get one week where it's actually exciting, and then some idiot comes along, eats the whole thing, and leaves a massive mess for you to clean up.

Actually, now that I think about it, you probably shouldn't even bother.
placidnomad87 placidnomad87 Active Member
51 messages
joined Dec 2018
#516 ·
quietfox384 said:But then what’s even the point of all these rules if we just let everyone travel wherever they please and spread the virus around?

The real issue here is that local municipalities and city governments hand out passes to their own people without a second thought. If you don't have the right connections within the system, you're expected to be perfectly obedient, while everyone else seems to do whatever they want. Honestly, how can we ever implement a strict quarantine when our entire administrative system is such a complete mess? 😂

In a country where bribery and corruption have become the standard operating procedure, how could they possibly manage to organize even an extraordinary situation like this one?

As long as the politicians can just say, "I'm done asking," it doesn't matter—because those rules certainly don't apply to their relatives.
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
134 messages
joined Oct 2019
#517 ·
placidnomad87 said:The real issue here is that local municipalities and city governments hand out passes to their own people without a second thought. If you don't have the right connections within the system, you're expected to be perfectly obedient, while everyone else seems to do whatever they want. Honestly, how can we ever implement a strict quarantine when our entire administrative system is such a complete mess? 😂

In a country where bribery and corruption have become the standard operating procedure, how could they possibly manage to organize even an extraordinary situation like this one?

As long as the politicians can just say, "I'm done asking," it doesn't matter—because those rules certainly don't apply to their relatives.

There’s a massive difference between being isolated in a tiny little hamlet like Lower Nigdarjev—where you've got one single shop, a post office, and a church to your name—and actually living in a sprawling city that covers hundreds of square miles. It's just not the same thing.

Before we go throwing questions around, maybe we should actually do a little reading first? Just to see if we can find the answer ourselves without bothering anyone.🤔

It’s not even about whether people should have the freedom to go wherever they want and spread whatever they’re carrying. That's not the point.
Read with some actual comprehension.
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
376 messages
joined Aug 2017
#518 ·
Joseph Taylor11 said:There’s a massive difference between being isolated in a tiny little hamlet like Lower Nigdarjev—where you've got one single shop, a post office, and a church to your name—and actually living in a sprawling city that covers hundreds of square miles. It's just not the same thing.

Before we go throwing questions around, maybe we should actually do a little reading first? Just to see if we can find the answer ourselves without bothering anyone.🤔

It’s not even about whether people should have the freedom to go wherever they want and spread whatever they’re carrying. That's not the point.
Read with some actual comprehension.

Look, I don't mean to be a jerk or anything, but seriously—has like 99% of the people living in that tiny little town of Lower Nigdarjev actually left the county limits once in the last ten years? Or have they just been busy celebrating their baptisms?

Asking for a buddy.
Jack Cook7 Jack Cook7 Regular
376 messages
joined Aug 2017
#519 ·
alh84001 said:That Woman from D.C. probably escaped some tiny rural town and now she just can't handle herself.

Which way? I was driving through Appalachia today all the way out to Mokrica and there wasn't even a checkpoint until then, then I hopped on the expressway toward Andrasevac and Oroslavje and the whole stretch was totally empty. Usually, I take an earlier turn near Comcast, though I'm not sure if they've got people waiting there lately. 🙂

It looks like all the towns and counties under the Donji Stubica Party made a deal behind our backs, because I didn't see a single bit of enforcement on the road between Oroslavje and Upper Stubica. 👍

The folks up in Appalachia are tearing down the state order. They won't listen, so whatever, bye!

Can you even imagine how much of an order that is? You tell them "do this" — and they say "nope" — and then boom, you're left watching them do whatever they want. The whole state is basically in a standoff. You can't even drive your little car down the road. And what are you gonna do? Try to boss them around?
Benjamin Barnes2 Benjamin Barnes2 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Mar 2020
#520 ·
I really hope this restrictive measure doesn't drag on too long... I'd be losing my mind if I were in their shoes.

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