Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

I think they mentioned a 14-day quarantine period.

They’ve gone and mobilized a bunch of academy kids just to validate people leaving their homes...

electricorca112 said:Either he doesn't quite get why these rules were put in place, or the way they're actually being enforced is the complete opposite of what was intended.

Yesterday I headed out of Washington, D.C. (properly, with my pass) via the Jankomir Bridge, drove into Suburban City, passed through, and came back out... Nobody asked me for a single thing, and I didn't see any police presence heading that way at all. I did spot a police checkpoint on that same bridge when I was coming the other direction, but even then, they weren't checking anyone moving away from the city.

On the drive back a few hours later, it was the exact same story. I saw the cops just sitting there on the bridge, but they didn't pull me over; they just had a few other cars lined up waiting for inspection.

Based on what I've been reading in the news, and since a few other folks on this forum have said the same thing, there aren't really any checkpoints on most routes (maybe even all of them) when you're leaving Washington, D.C.—it’s only happening on the way in. And as for people heading back into the city? No pass required whatsoever.

So, as far as Washington, D.C. is concerned, the only thing they're actually doing is trying to stop non-residents from driving into town. 🤷

It’s the same deal today regarding the Golden Gate Bridge (nothing happening in the outbound lane, just a little "test run" vibe on the inbound side), but they have a patrol stationed right where you enter New Canaan, near the Walmart. And even there, they're only checking cars coming in, not heading out.

So, if you listen to what some guy over on that other thread is saying, it sounds like getting a permit isn't actually that big of a deal everywhere.

It’s probably just totally random—you know how it is—like, it all depends on who you run into or how lucky you get...

stormybadger8 said:Looks like everyone's reading the forums now. Great.
All of a sudden, there isn't a single case left in Washington County—everyone's miraculously recovered. 👍

https://www.cdc.gov/counties/139
Guess the fight against the virus isn't happening on all fronts, including the internet. 🙏
Everyone's cured. 👍

But you better hurry up...
Because the old data is still sitting right there.
https://gdi-online.maps.arcgis.com/a...bfad8db4f64aec
That needs to be wiped too...

https://www.entertainment.com/2020/03/27/46...county/

There's an answer down there...

Nicole James said:You can't go to your own people—yeah, and that's exactly the point. You can't go to your own because you might infect them, then your family ends up in the hospital, then they infect the doctor, then the doctor goes to cardiology and infects twenty critically ill patients...

Infect them with what?
So basically, I’m totally safe hanging out in my room with my grandma and the cat, but the second I hop in my car and pull out of the driveway, I'm a walking biohazard? Great logic there... 🤦

Are we even allowed to step outside anymore if you live near a park or a field? Or does the rain start dropping spores from the trees too? 🤔

-I mean, I really care deeply about those twenty critically ill patients. The whole idea behind this virus is just natural selection—fewer mouths to feed and less manipulation. As far as I'm concerned, everyone can catch it; I'll be first in line.
-Regarding the vaccine, I was actually just debating yesterday how they might kill off more people with this new shot than the actual virus will. They say it'll be mandatory, but I'm not injecting any nonsense into my body unless they're offering morphine.🙄
Here you go, classic COVID news.

Brian Torres2 said:So, if you listen to what some guy over on that other thread is saying, it sounds like getting a permit isn't actually that big of a deal everywhere.

It’s probably just totally random—you know how it is—like, it all depends on who you run into or how lucky you get...

http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a496013...om-obliku.html

– Law enforcement reported they have received tips regarding suspected manipulations. I want to send a clear message to anyone engaging in this: it is a very serious criminal offense involving the forgery of documents, and there will be no leniency. Depending on the severity, this is an act that can carry prison time. We won't be handing out minimum sentences in a situation like this—stated Božinović, noting that the Department of the Interior, as the project lead, is working alongside the Department of Justice on an application designed to minimize the potential for permit manipulation. This specific application was presented yesterday during a meeting at the FBI, and once the details are further refined, they should be released to the public this Wednesday.

In other words—the police have people assigned specifically to monitor Reddit...

So, one should probably be careful about what gets posted.

Joshua Gray75 said:http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a496013...om-obliku.html

– Law enforcement reported they have received tips regarding suspected manipulations. I want to send a clear message to anyone engaging in this: it is a very serious criminal offense involving the forgery of documents, and there will be no leniency. Depending on the severity, this is an act that can carry prison time. We won't be handing out minimum sentences in a situation like this—stated Božinović, noting that the Department of the Interior, as the project lead, is working alongside the Department of Justice on an application designed to minimize the potential for permit manipulation. This specific application was presented yesterday during a meeting at the FBI, and once the details are further refined, they should be released to the public this Wednesday.

In other words—the police have people assigned specifically to monitor Reddit...

So, one should probably be careful about what gets posted.

I don't think this is some issue with Reddit itself; it’s more that the mainstream media has gone into a complete state of hysteria over it. Personally, when I look at the entrance to Miami, it's obvious to me that traffic has slowed down so much that even if there are a few people out there, they’re practically negligible.

On top of that, this whole plan just isn't going to work in practice. Think about it—how many delivery drivers are actually working on contracts rather than being full-time employees of the very companies issuing those permits? Or consider how many businesses have to send staff away from their home base to handle field work instead of sitting in an office. How on earth does the government intend to regulate all that chaos?

Take an IT firm, for example. They might need to head out into the field to set up hardware so that a completely different company can maintain its remote work setup. If you slap a ban on them, the ripple effect is that the second company loses its ability to work from home, leaving them with the impossible choice of either shutting down entirely or forcing their employees back into risky environments.

Joshua Gray75 said:http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a496013...om-obliku.html

– Law enforcement reported they have received tips regarding suspected manipulations. I want to send a clear message to anyone engaging in this: it is a very serious criminal offense involving the forgery of documents, and there will be no leniency. Depending on the severity, this is an act that can carry prison time. We won't be handing out minimum sentences in a situation like this—stated Božinović, noting that the Department of the Interior, as the project lead, is working alongside the Department of Justice on an application designed to minimize the potential for permit manipulation. This specific application was presented yesterday during a meeting at the FBI, and once the details are further refined, they should be released to the public this Wednesday.

In other words—the police have people assigned specifically to monitor Reddit...

So, one should probably be careful about what gets posted.

Honestly, the Secretary of the Department of Justice shouldn't even be uttering a sentence like that—not even at a private family dinner.

Matthew Jackson2 said:I don't think this is some issue with Reddit itself; it’s more that the mainstream media has gone into a complete state of hysteria over it. Personally, when I look at the entrance to Miami, it's obvious to me that traffic has slowed down so much that even if there are a few people out there, they’re practically negligible.

On top of that, this whole plan just isn't going to work in practice. Think about it—how many delivery drivers are actually working on contracts rather than being full-time employees of the very companies issuing those permits? Or consider how many businesses have to send staff away from their home base to handle field work instead of sitting in an office. How on earth does the government intend to regulate all that chaos?

Take an IT firm, for example. They might need to head out into the field to set up hardware so that a completely different company can maintain its remote work setup. If you slap a ban on them, the ripple effect is that the second company loses its ability to work from home, leaving them with the impossible choice of either shutting down entirely or forcing their employees back into risky environments.

Actually, journalists have been scouring Reddit for ages... it’s become their primary lifeline, both for hunting down story leads and general information gathering.

@Nicholas King — it seems he’s allowed to say whatever he wants now...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5291...05550/members/

It looks like the membership growth for this group is going to be "exponential"...
Every time I refresh the page—I see two more members...

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2068
2071
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2089

Matthew Jackson2 said:I don't think this is some issue with Reddit itself; it’s more that the mainstream media has gone into a complete state of hysteria over it. Personally, when I look at the entrance to Miami, it's obvious to me that traffic has slowed down so much that even if there are a few people out there, they’re practically negligible.

On top of that, this whole plan just isn't going to work in practice. Think about it—how many delivery drivers are actually working on contracts rather than being full-time employees of the very companies issuing those permits? Or consider how many businesses have to send staff away from their home base to handle field work instead of sitting in an office. How on earth does the government intend to regulate all that chaos?

Take an IT firm, for example. They might need to head out into the field to set up hardware so that a completely different company can maintain its remote work setup. If you slap a ban on them, the ripple effect is that the second company loses its ability to work from home, leaving them with the impossible choice of either shutting down entirely or forcing their employees back into risky environments.

I haven't run into any issues with this myself. My coworkers and I have had our badges for a week now, and it's been fine. A few people were pulled over by the FBI, sure—they checked the ID and let them go—but nothing more.

Joshua Gray75 said:http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a496013...om-obliku.html

– Law enforcement reported they have received tips regarding suspected manipulations. I want to send a clear message to anyone engaging in this: it is a very serious criminal offense involving the forgery of documents, and there will be no leniency. Depending on the severity, this is an act that can carry prison time. We won't be handing out minimum sentences in a situation like this—stated Božinović, noting that the Department of the Interior, as the project lead, is working alongside the Department of Justice on an application designed to minimize the potential for permit manipulation. This specific application was presented yesterday during a meeting at the FBI, and once the details are further refined, they should be released to the public this Wednesday.

In other words—the police have people assigned specifically to monitor Reddit...

So, one should probably be careful about what gets posted.

There isn’t even a hint of forgery in what Frank Knight wrote. It’s really just about how supposedly easy it is to get your hands on it. completely legal Pass.

To be honest, not everyone sharing their stories here seems to have had the same experience as he did. It’s pretty obvious that things vary wildly from one place to the next—or rather, from one bureaucrat to the next.

Nicholas King said:Honestly, the Secretary of the Department of Justice shouldn't even be uttering a sentence like that—not even at a private family dinner.

It’s exactly what these bureaucrats love to do—presume they know how the penalty will land before the dust has even settled. I remember one occasion, back when I was dealing with an inspector from the Department of Commerce, she tried to pin some absolute nonsense on me regarding my Pilates setup, and since she wanted to demand a mandatory fine right then and there, I stood my ground and insisted on a full formal hearing...
And she looks down her nose at me and says, "You'd be much better off just paying the $6,000 now rather than dragging this to court, because the statutory fine ranges from $15,000 to $80,000, and trust me, the judge is going to skin you for $50,000, one hundred percent."
So I told her, "Fine, go ahead and file the paperwork..."

When I finally stood before the judge and repeated her exact words verbatim, the judge immediately bristled at the coercion and ruled that the charges were dismissed entirely...

Nicholas King said:Honestly, the Secretary of the Department of Justice shouldn't even be uttering a sentence like that—not even at a private family dinner.

I don't see what the big deal is...
I mean, I'm almost looking forward to when the loyalists for the ruling party head out to visit relatives for Easter. They'll realize they need a road trip, and instead of seeing their families or eating Easter eggs, they'll just be glued to the TV watching some calm Prime Minister explain why staying home is the only dignified way to act, supposedly for our own long-term good.
And hey, elections are coming up at the end of the year.

#svakaRitDojdeNaŠekret

Edit: Jokes aside, I think this is pure idiocy. We have a population roughly the size of California.

I’m really hoping they lift the ban at least by Easter

So, what, there won't be any new cases by Easter?

Jacob Alvarez said:So, what, there won't be any new cases by Easter?

Capak: "When everyone suddenly headed south, the travel ban was an epidemiologically sound move. We’ll adjust the restrictions based on how things play out and how people actually behave—either loosening them up or tightening the screws. I think we need to hold steady at this level for now, then re-evaluate in a week. Easter is coming up, and obviously, everyone wants those restrictions to ease up a bit. We’ll all reach an agreement."

Larry Walker24 said:Capak: "When everyone suddenly headed south, the travel ban was an epidemiologically sound move. We’ll adjust the restrictions based on how things play out and how people actually behave—either loosening them up or tightening the screws. I think we need to hold steady at this level for now, then re-evaluate in a week. Easter is coming up, and obviously, everyone wants those restrictions to ease up a bit. We’ll all reach an agreement."

So, basically, no changes for Easter👍

I guess that’s basically the part of the theory where they talk about easing up on the restrictions—just loosening things enough so that, more or less, the whole population gets exposed and maybe builds up some kind of immunity.

Alexander Thompson said:I guess that’s basically the part of the theory where they talk about easing up on the restrictions—just loosening things enough so that, more or less, the whole population gets exposed and maybe builds up some kind of immunity.

They shouldn't have introduced any measures at all. It would have resulted in the same thing—everyone getting sick and building immunity. But then they wouldn't get to act like big shots, because they'd be suffering too...