Curfew restrictions: Is it legal to leave your house?

Bryan Taylor6 said:They shouldn't have introduced any measures at all. It would have resulted in the same thing—everyone getting sick and building immunity. But then they wouldn't get to act like big shots, because they'd be suffering too...

So the grand plan was basically just making sure we didn't all get sick at the exact same time, huh?

Even stricter measures coming?

rustywalker42 said:Even stricter measures coming?

If you don't have any legal precedents to lean on—and I'm talking about a Supreme Court justice here, not me—then your only option is to tighten the rules until Easter, and after that, everyone can just do whatever they want...😁

rustywalker42 said:Even stricter measures coming?

I don't know, man—to me, these aren't even really "new" rules, just more effective ways of actually enforcing the ones we already have in place.

Larry Walker24 said:Capak: "When everyone suddenly headed south, the travel ban was an epidemiologically sound move. We’ll adjust the restrictions based on how things play out and how people actually behave—either loosening them up or tightening the screws. I think we need to hold steady at this level for now, then re-evaluate in a week. Easter is coming up, and obviously, everyone wants those restrictions to ease up a bit. We’ll all reach an agreement."

Perhaps he should start by reaching an agreement with himself first?
If my memory serves me right—just the other day, he was suggesting that "easing restrictions" might not even be on the table until early June. I might not be quoting him verbatim—but that was the general sentiment...

And now, suddenly, he needs to negotiate? With whom, exactly? The virus? Božinović... or someone else entirely? The American public?
We will all agree... but who, precisely, constitutes this "ALL"?

To be honest—I am starting to feel a bit nauseated by the whole spectacle. It seems they have truly lost their way...

Alexander Thompson said:I don't know, man—to me, these aren't even really "new" rules, just more effective ways of actually enforcing the ones we already have in place.

Nice one, Sherlock.
There were people who couldn't get a permit even before this—now, I suppose they don't even have to bother asking.

But here's what actually interests me:
under the guise of "essential family matters," such as caring for children or the elderly, or buying groceries and basic supplies

What does that actually entail? Does it mean you can drive to the next town over for groceries—even if there are two stores right in your own township—or does it not? Who exactly is going to step in and define what constitutes a "vital reason"?
Maybe I need a specific brand of food that isn't stocked at my local shop—but it happens to be available at that one 5.0 miles store miles away... and so on...
this is just a hypothetical—so the usual "pro-restriction" crowd doesn't try to use this specific example against me!

Can I move back to my home state once this is over, or did I miss the window? If I can, do I need to grab a permit? What happens if some cop gets cocky and refuses to let me through?

Joshua Gray75 said:Nice one, Sherlock.
There were people who couldn't get a permit even before this—now, I suppose they don't even have to bother asking.

But here's what actually interests me:
under the guise of "essential family matters," such as caring for children or the elderly, or buying groceries and basic supplies

What does that actually entail? Does it mean you can drive to the next town over for groceries—even if there are two stores right in your own township—or does it not? Who exactly is going to step in and define what constitutes a "vital reason"?
Maybe I need a specific brand of food that isn't stocked at my local shop—but it happens to be available at that one 5.0 miles store miles away... and so on...
this is just a hypothetical—so the usual "pro-restriction" crowd doesn't try to use this specific example against me!

Since you haven't exactly been successful at convincing anyone of anything up to this point, this doesn't really change a thing for you anyway.🤷

electricorca112 said:There isn’t even a hint of forgery in what Frank Knight wrote. It’s really just about how supposedly easy it is to get your hands on it. completely legal Pass.

To be honest, not everyone sharing their stories here seems to have had the same experience as he did. It’s pretty obvious that things vary wildly from one place to the next—or rather, from one bureaucrat to the next.

And now, those who previously found it easy to obtain this permit will find themselves facing an uphill battle...
Meanwhile, those who could never get one in the first place—well, they aren't losing anything.

Is this what they mean by #budimosolidarni?
🤔

Alexander Thompson said:Since you haven't exactly been successful at convincing anyone of anything up to this point, this doesn't really change a thing for you anyway.🤷

I'm speaking in generalities here... I never claimed that was my own personal anecdote. It could be someone close to me... or perhaps just some random person from Reddit... it hardly matters.
I used the word EXAMPLE!
(I even went ahead and applied a 🙄 #svakaRitDojdeNaŠekret edit...
)
(That's precisely why I suggested nobody get hung up on that specific sentence...)

Larry Walker24 said:Capak: "When everyone suddenly headed south, the travel ban was an epidemiologically sound move. We’ll adjust the restrictions based on how things play out and how people actually behave—either loosening them up or tightening the screws. I think we need to hold steady at this level for now, then re-evaluate in a week. Easter is coming up, and obviously, everyone wants those restrictions to ease up a bit. We’ll all reach an agreement."

They could probably just let people head home. But honestly? I doubt they'll ditch the rest of the restrictions.

Nicholas King said:Playing this kind of tough guy usually lasts until a serious illness hits someone you actually care about.

The whole foundation of your bravado is just this basic idea that "it won't happen to me." You’re probably young enough to think you’re totally heartless, a fan of "natural selection," and just overall untouchable—but honestly, that’s just a silly way to look at things.

And who said none of my people aren't infected? You're acting all high and mighty like you're so smart, but my belief doesn't change anything; I don't give a damn if it hits me, my family, or someone else...

You can tell from the post who thinks they're some big shot who's invincible. Stop trying to act so tough. 🤦

You didn't even read my post properly. You just cherry-picked the parts you wanted to fight with, which really shows how much you missed the point. It's a pretty misguided way to think. 😉

If what I'm saying bothers you, there's an ignore button right there. Just skip me and leave me be, instead of feeling this obsessive need to lecture everyone else on how to be smart... 🙄

Dana Smith2 said:I haven't run into any issues with this myself. My coworkers and I have had our badges for a week now, and it's been fine. A few people were pulled over by the FBI, sure—they checked the ID and let them go—but nothing more.

Unless you’ve somehow mastered time travel and are reporting back from the future, maybe try actually reading the article before you start weighing in: http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a496013...om-obliku.html

I read the article and I honestly don't see the issue here.
Why exactly do you think this isn't going to work?
It seems like the same setup we've had before—just with more data points and better coordination between the agencies issuing the permits (at least, in theory).

It remains utterly unclear how—or why—it suddenly occurred to someone to decide that people are going to start mass-producing fraudulent passes out of thin air.

Now, if some officer decides to start giving me grief over my perfectly legitimate pass just because it doesn't have a QR code, the whole thing is going to turn into an absolute circus.

So I try to update my residency info, and the response is basically "sure, just show us proof of where you're staying and you can leave your current address."

Decided to see if anyone else was having luck reporting a secondary residence.

Bammmm—the site is down right now.

Honestly, I’m dying to know what would happen if someone actually showed up at the Department of Homeland Security office to file this in person. 🤣

Total joke.

Kenneth Jones70 said:So I try to update my residency info, and the response is basically "sure, just show us proof of where you're staying and you can leave your current address."

Decided to see if anyone else was having luck reporting a secondary residence.

Bammmm—the site is down right now.

Honestly, I’m dying to know what would happen if someone actually showed up at the Department of Homeland Security office to file this in person. 🤣

Total joke.

The DHS office over at the Mayo Clinic location isn't even handling residency stuff—they said over the phone they only deal with emergency driver's licenses for professionals. So there you go.
But seriously, what are you supposed to do when you aren't registered at your current address, and your employer can't help you out with the necessary paperwork?

It’s absurd. You can’t even move within a small town of 2,000 people, yet in a massive metropolis like NYC with at least 8 million residents, everything is business as usual.
I’m forbidden from traveling to Washington, D.C., even though the city limits are barely 100 meters from my street. I can't even pull into a gas station because it’s located 1.2 miles, but somehow it counts as part of the city?
Absolutely terrifying. A total disgrace.

Melissa Phillips4 said:It’s absurd. You can’t even move within a small town of 2,000 people, yet in a massive metropolis like NYC with at least 8 million residents, everything is business as usual.
I’m forbidden from traveling to Washington, D.C., even though the city limits are barely 100 meters from my street. I can't even pull into a gas station because it’s located 1.2 miles, but somehow it counts as part of the city?
Absolutely terrifying. A total disgrace.

I really wouldn't want to be accused of being ironic right now... but—good morning, 😉

Melissa Phillips4 said:It’s absurd. You can’t even move within a small town of 2,000 people, yet in a massive metropolis like NYC with at least 8 million residents, everything is business as usual.
I’m forbidden from traveling to Washington, D.C., even though the city limits are barely 100 meters from my street. I can't even pull into a gas station because it’s located 1.2 miles, but somehow it counts as part of the city?
Absolutely terrifying. A total disgrace.

That's exactly why they should just scrap these senseless restrictions altogether.