Christian vs. Eastern Meditation: Similarities and Differences!

Steven Stewart3 said:So, what did you actually order from that 10kg stash of yours? What kind of good drugs and heavy hitters are we talking about? Please tell me it isn't just some fiber supplements to help you poop better!😁
Give me a hint about what's actually worth it. Have you tried anything for staying wired? Like psychostimulants (Modafinil or something along those lines)?

Trading my psilocybin cubensis for some edibles. You can grow the spores yourself without any hassle; you could pick up a syringe in Vienna or just grab something on eBay.

Steven Stewart3 said:So, what did you actually order from that 10kg stash of yours? What kind of good drugs and heavy hitters are we talking about? Please tell me it isn't just some fiber supplements to help you poop better!😁
Give me a hint about what's actually worth it. Have you tried anything for staying wired? Like psychostimulants (Modafinil or something along those lines)?

I don't see why my list would matter to you, or how what works for me would apply to you (some items are based on specific blood work or health markers, some are tried-and-true favorites, and others are just new experiments).

Nothing illegal here.

Nature Made
Vitamin C
Zinc
Ginkgo Biloba
Grape Seed Extract
D Aspartic Acid
Acetyl L-Carnitine
Green Tea Extract Powder
L-Theanine
N Acetyl L Tyrosine
beta Alanine
Creatine Monohydrate
maca Powder
Inositol
Bee Pollen Powder
Chlorella
Taurine
Flaxseed Powder
Trimethylglycine Powder
probiotics
vitamin D
k3
bacopa
caffeine

Paul Rogers94 said:Trading my psilocybin cubensis for some edibles. You can grow the spores yourself without any hassle; you could pick up a syringe in Vienna or just grab something on eBay.

Man, I don't know... the thought of the cops breathing down my neck totally freaks me out. I heard you can actually order spores (if that's what you call mushroom seeds?) online where you basically pay like two bucks for shipping and they send the rest for free from the Netherlands. Has anyone here actually tried doing that, or maybe someone else on the forums?
Trump would definitely go for it, but I'm stuck out here in Slough while you're probably hanging out in NYC, so it's just not worth the trip.

Steven Stewart3 said:Man, I don't know... the thought of the cops breathing down my neck totally freaks me out. I heard you can actually order spores (if that's what you call mushroom seeds?) online where you basically pay like two bucks for shipping and they send the rest for free from the Netherlands. Has anyone here actually tried doing that, or maybe someone else on the forums?
Trump would definitely go for it, but I'm stuck out here in Slough while you're probably hanging out in NYC, so it's just not worth the trip.

Basically, you just order a couple of syringes and clone the spores from the "product"—which means, theoretically, you've got an infinite loop going.

Steven Stewart3 said:Man, I don't know... the thought of the cops breathing down my neck totally freaks me out. I heard you can actually order spores (if that's what you call mushroom seeds?) online where you basically pay like two bucks for shipping and they send the rest for free from the Netherlands. Has anyone here actually tried doing that, or maybe someone else on the forums?
Trump would definitely go for it, but I'm stuck out here in Slough while you're probably hanging out in NYC, so it's just not worth the trip.

The police aren't going to waste their time chasing stuff like this; they might go after a dealer, but that's about it. There's zero logic in burning through IT resources and administrative paperwork to track an online order just to bust someone for three cacti, especially when it's just a misdemeanor at most.

Especially if you're using the dark web with all the standard privacy tools (Tor, VPNs, encryption...). Sure, nothing is unhackable, but you have to ask yourself: who is actually going to spend massive intelligence resources on Joe Biden and his three little spores (which I'm pretty sure are legal on their own anyway, so there's hardly any reason to dive into the dark web for them).

bluemason3 said:I don't see why my list would matter to you, or how what works for me would apply to you (some items are based on specific blood work or health markers, some are tried-and-true favorites, and others are just new experiments).

Nothing illegal here.

Nature Made
Vitamin C
Zinc
Ginkgo Biloba
Grape Seed Extract
D Aspartic Acid
Acetyl L-Carnitine
Green Tea Extract Powder
L-Theanine
N Acetyl L Tyrosine
beta Alanine
Creatine Monohydrate
maca Powder
Inositol
Bee Pollen Powder
Chlorella
Taurine
Flaxseed Powder
Trimethylglycine Powder
probiotics
vitamin D
k3
bacopa
caffeine

Hey, it’s all good! I’m just asking, no need to get defensive. Most of this stuff can be ordered right at a local CVS. I actually heard some guys on YouTube mention that Maca Powder acts like a bit of a stimulant—kind of like a natural Viagra vibe, you know? And Taurine... mmm...😛
A probiotic wouldn't hurt either!😁

bluemason3 said:People talk nonsense all the time, especially when there's money involved. The internet is basically just an ocean of stupidity.

There’s a decent chance he communicated with Vivekananda, but if I recall correctly, the stories don't actually use real names. It’s mostly speculation (for instance, Vivekananda might have mentioned "a certain scientist" he was in contact with, assuming that part is even true).

I think it’s a stretch to claim him for those traditions. Even if there was some intellectual curiosity or correspondence, it's unlikely he ever identified as a Hindu or anything similar.

As for the comments, they're spot on. Aside from the dates clearly being off, that interview is actually part of a stage play. It has nothing to do with the real Tesla or a real interview.

Tesla Mind isn't some total load of nonsense—it’s actually a top-tier exhibit, technically and otherwise. All this stuff you see online is just pure fiction. It’s classic New Age behavior, honestly—just making up "scientific theories" and forcing them into their weird worldview. Besides, there are actual biographies out there, and people who put this whole exhibit together have probably studied his life way more deeply than any of us ever could...

bluemason3 said:People talk nonsense all the time, especially when there's money involved. The internet is basically just an ocean of stupidity.

There’s a decent chance he communicated with Vivekananda, but if I recall correctly, the stories don't actually use real names. It’s mostly speculation (for instance, Vivekananda might have mentioned "a certain scientist" he was in contact with, assuming that part is even true).

I think it’s a stretch to claim him for those traditions. Even if there was some intellectual curiosity or correspondence, it's unlikely he ever identified as a Hindu or anything similar.

As for the comments, they're spot on. Aside from the dates clearly being off, that interview is actually part of a stage play. It has nothing to do with the real Tesla or a real interview.

That’s just straight-up false—I’d start by using that exhibit as proof, then move on to the biographies, and finally pull up some actual, solid eyewitness accounts from the web...

bluemason3 said:People talk nonsense all the time, especially when there's money involved. The internet is basically just an ocean of stupidity.

There’s a decent chance he communicated with Vivekananda, but if I recall correctly, the stories don't actually use real names. It’s mostly speculation (for instance, Vivekananda might have mentioned "a certain scientist" he was in contact with, assuming that part is even true).

I think it’s a stretch to claim him for those traditions. Even if there was some intellectual curiosity or correspondence, it's unlikely he ever identified as a Hindu or anything similar.

As for the comments, they're spot on. Aside from the dates clearly being off, that interview is actually part of a stage play. It has nothing to do with the real Tesla or a real interview.

Just look at that ascetic lifestyle he led... I mean, if you don't buy his relationship with Vivekananda, maybe that alone should be enough proof for you. He wasn't strictly Hindu, nor did he belong to any other specific religion—but then again, he read the Bible cover to cover too, so he wasn't exactly part of the Christian crowd either... basically, you don't have to be labeled by one group to understand and practice elements from different faiths...

bluemason3 said:People talk nonsense all the time, especially when there's money involved. The internet is basically just an ocean of stupidity.

There’s a decent chance he communicated with Vivekananda, but if I recall correctly, the stories don't actually use real names. It’s mostly speculation (for instance, Vivekananda might have mentioned "a certain scientist" he was in contact with, assuming that part is even true).

I think it’s a stretch to claim him for those traditions. Even if there was some intellectual curiosity or correspondence, it's unlikely he ever identified as a Hindu or anything similar.

As for the comments, they're spot on. Aside from the dates clearly being off, that interview is actually part of a stage play. It has nothing to do with the real Tesla or a real interview.

I’ve read two of them and I already know exactly which interview we're talking about—you can find it on YouTube under "Nikola Tesla, Adjusting to Angels"...

I don't get it—am I really supposed to go out of my way to tear someone down just because they haven't bothered to read a biography or even look up what he actually did... just so I can feel like I've won some imaginary argument? I mean, books exist... legit websites exist... you know, things people use when they actually want to be informed

Steven Stewart3 said:Hey, it’s all good! I’m just asking, no need to get defensive. Most of this stuff can be ordered right at a local CVS. I actually heard some guys on YouTube mention that Maca Powder acts like a bit of a stimulant—kind of like a natural Viagra vibe, you know? And Taurine... mmm...😛
A probiotic wouldn't hurt either!😁

Sure, I'm interested, but not at these volumes or this price point. To cover an entire year's supply of everything listed, we're looking at... $333Bio Black Friday sale is happening now. We're doing bulk orders.Mostly just crushing them up—just a few capsules or tablets at a time.You can't just walk in and take whatever you want.

I'm not really angry, it’s just that I can't stand seeing people buy stuff blindly just because it's trendy or because some influencer mentioned it. You should use supplements with a specific purpose in mind—if you need them at all. Honestly, half of what gets listed here isn't even essential; it's mostly just people experimenting.

I don't know about you guys, but I’ve been staring at my screen for twenty minutes trying to wrap my head around this whole mess—it’s just one thing after another lately, isn't it? Honestly, it feels like we're living through some kind of fever dream where nothing makes sense anymore. I was sitting there at a diner in Chicago yesterday, just nursing a lukewarm coffee and watching the news, thinking about how much everything has shifted. It's exhausting. You try to stay informed, you try to keep up with the madness, but sometimes it feels like you're just shouting into a void while the rest of the country moves in a completely different direction. It’s enough to make anyone want to just unplug and disappear for a while, but we all know that's not really an option in this day and age. Anyway, I'm just venting—standard procedure at this point, right? Just my two cents on the absolute chaos we're dealing with. kaže:
What babies? What are you even talking about?
In Egypt? Seriously?
I mean, let’s be real here—weren't they just out there killing Jewish babies for absolutely no reason at all?
Hold on a second!
Honestly, I hope that boomerang comes flying right back at them. Let them feel exactly how much this kind of injustice stings—it’s about damn time they got a taste of their own medicine.
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So, we’re talking about the Amalekites again—and man, it’s dark. We're looking at that whole stretch where God basically tells Saul to go scorched earth, wiping out absolutely everyone in his path, and yeah, that includes the infants. It’s heavy stuff, honestly. Just one of those parts of the Bible that makes you sit back and wonder what the hell was going through anyone's head back then.
So, according to your logic, we should just go out and hunt down innocent babies because of some nonsense their ancestors pulled? That’s a hell of a worldview you've got there. Seriously. Should the French just start liquidating Germans to settle the score for everything that went down in the past? What kind of twisted thinking is that?

So, what, you're asking if I'm gay too? Honestly, man, does it even matter? In this crazy-ass world where everything feels like a circus, I feel like people spend way too much time obsessing over who's sleeping with whom instead of, I don't know, actually living their lives. It’s all just noise at this point—just more static in an already loud-as-hell existence.
My bad—didn't realize that.
Look, they aren't out there executing people anymore—they’re just marching around in formation. Honestly? I don't give a damn about that part. It doesn't move the needle for me. At the end of the day, when God finally decides to sit in judgment and settle the score for everyone, those self-righteous "Christians" won't get any special treatment either. They'll be judged right alongside the deviants, the predators, and the rest of the crowd. Everyone's going to answer for what they did.

Look, I’m not gay, but you really ought to be sweating this—if you actually give a damn about what the Bible says. Seriously, if you're following those scriptures, they're pretty clear about the whole "death penalty" thing for homosexuals. So, if you’re sitting there acting all offended or trying to play the moral high ground against that, then fine—you’re basically just spitting in the face of Biblical law and everything God laid out. You can't pick and choose which parts of the Word to follow when it suits your modern sensibilities, right? If you're against that kind of justice, then yeah, you're officially standing against the Bible itself. Period.

bluemason3 said:The police aren't going to waste their time chasing stuff like this; they might go after a dealer, but that's about it. There's zero logic in burning through IT resources and administrative paperwork to track an online order just to bust someone for three cacti, especially when it's just a misdemeanor at most.

Especially if you're using the dark web with all the standard privacy tools (Tor, VPNs, encryption...). Sure, nothing is unhackable, but you have to ask yourself: who is actually going to spend massive intelligence resources on Joe Biden and his three little spores (which I'm pretty sure are legal on their own anyway, so there's hardly any reason to dive into the dark web for them).

Exactly. And honestly, I'm not even sure if those substances are on the controlled list yet—you don't even need the dark web for this kind of thing.

Paul Rogers94 said:Basically, you just order a couple of syringes and clone the spores from the "product"—which means, theoretically, you've got an infinite loop going.

So how does that actually work though? Is it like an opioid, or more like LSD, or something else entirely?

goldenjackal6 said:Nikola Tesla, man, every single idiot on the internet tries to twist his words just to force an argument that was dead on arrival anyway. Relying on authority to win a debate is such a massive logical fallacy to begin with. You throw in some fake quotes, and suddenly you’ve got a delusion wrapped inside another delusion. 🤣

Look, why don't you come back once you actually finish an electrical engineering degree and grasp what he was doing... then we can talk.

You're being incredibly rude—it's enough to drive anyone crazy. It’s impossible to have a decent debate with you because the second I state something I know for a fact, you just snap back that "every idiot" is twisting words... so, what, is that supposed to be directed at me or something?

Paul Rogers94 said:Exactly. And honestly, I'm not even sure if those substances are on the controlled list yet—you don't even need the dark web for this kind of thing.

Oh, they definitely are. Think about it: if the mushrooms themselves are illegal, then the spores are technically off-limits too. It's just like how cannabis seeds are treated under the law—it's all part of the same legal umbrella. That means ordering or having spores in your possession isn't just some minor slip-up; it can actually land you in real legal trouble.

Steven Stewart3 said:So how does that actually work though? Is it like an opioid, or more like LSD, or something else entirely?

It’s incomparable to any other psychedelic. LSD is more of a straight line—a steady state—whereas fungi are a full-blown rollercoaster of intense experiences (they have this incredibly distinct internal rhythm). They can punch right through you into genuine spiritual territory. My take? It’s easily the greatest thing ever; it's like a massive reservoir of pure knowledge. After a 'proper' trip, you walk away feeling like something actually *happened* to you for once in your life... and what happened is basically indescribable 😍. We're talking shamanic initiation vibes—everything from being swallowed by a serpent to experiencing total oneness... death and burial rituals leading straight into incredible bliss... It definitely isn't for everyone—as Terence McKenna says, Psychedelics don't work on Stupid People

neonmarlin39 said:

I was just thinking about electroconvulsive therapy the other day. It’s one of those things that always gets people talking, usually because they’ve only ever seen those intense, dramatic movie scenes where everything looks like a nightmare. But honestly, if you look at the actual medical side of things here in the States, it’s a totally different conversation. It’s more nuanced than the Hollywood version makes it out to be. Just some food for thought. kaže:
Look, I’ve heard stories about people actually losing their minds from trying to force that Kundalini stuff. It's real. You see people end up in psych wards because they completely trashed their brain chemistry—we're talking total dopamine imbalances and all that.

People keep throwing out these random personal stories like they actually mean something. It’s honestly kind of wild how people try to use "I saw this" or "this happened to me" as if it counts for anything in a real philosophical or scientific debate. But that's exactly what you're doing right now—trying to build a whole case based on nothing but hearsay.

I think there might be a typo or something missing in your message—"elektrokon" doesn't really mean anything to me. You trying to talk about something specific? Hit me up with the details and I'll see what I can do. says:
A buddy of mine is actually a Kundalini yoga instructor up in New York City, so I definitely know what I'm talking about.

Honestly, anyone—I’m talking about Mary, Kit, Stephen, or even Mike—could basically become a certified instructor for Kundalini or whatever flavor of yoga you're into. All you really have to do is pay for the training course, and boom, you're good to go. It feels a bit sketchy to me when someone claims to be a "Kundalini yoga instructor." To be real, it just makes me think they're peddling some kind of nonsense (and honestly, what you're saying pretty much backs that up). No serious or traditional school actually uses the term "Kundalini yoga" like that to get started. I mean, sure, maybe Sivananda used it once in passing, but never in this specific way, and definitely never using a title like "Kundalini yoga instructor." 😁So, just tell me what kind of tradition or school this friend of yours is even running—you know, that yoga instructor you've got over in New York City. If I knew the specifics, we could actually dig into what’s going on here, like the actual philosophy behind it and what kind of practices they're pushing...

What kind of "philosophical debate" do you even need here? You've got the evidence, and that’s it. I mean, if you think people online are just going to volunteer their experiences regarding something as unpleasant as a psychotic break... then who else is going to provide that proof if not them?

Or look at it this way—you learn about these experiences indirectly, like how I found out through a buddy of mine...

neonmarlin39 said:

I was just thinking about electroconvulsive therapy the other day. It’s one of those things that always gets people talking, usually because they’ve only ever seen those intense, dramatic movie scenes where everything looks like a nightmare. But honestly, if you look at the actual medical side of things here in the States, it’s a totally different conversation. It’s more nuanced than the Hollywood version makes it out to be. Just some food for thought. kaže:
Look, I’ve heard stories about people actually losing their minds from trying to force that Kundalini stuff. It's real. You see people end up in psych wards because they completely trashed their brain chemistry—we're talking total dopamine imbalances and all that.

People keep throwing out these random personal stories like they actually mean something. It’s honestly kind of wild how people try to use "I saw this" or "this happened to me" as if it counts for anything in a real philosophical or scientific debate. But that's exactly what you're doing right now—trying to build a whole case based on nothing but hearsay.

I think there might be a typo or something missing in your message—"elektrokon" doesn't really mean anything to me. You trying to talk about something specific? Hit me up with the details and I'll see what I can do. says:
A buddy of mine is actually a Kundalini yoga instructor up in New York City, so I definitely know what I'm talking about.

Honestly, anyone—I’m talking about Mary, Kit, Stephen, or even Mike—could basically become a certified instructor for Kundalini or whatever flavor of yoga you're into. All you really have to do is pay for the training course, and boom, you're good to go. It feels a bit sketchy to me when someone claims to be a "Kundalini yoga instructor." To be real, it just makes me think they're peddling some kind of nonsense (and honestly, what you're saying pretty much backs that up). No serious or traditional school actually uses the term "Kundalini yoga" like that to get started. I mean, sure, maybe Sivananda used it once in passing, but never in this specific way, and definitely never using a title like "Kundalini yoga instructor." 😁So, just tell me what kind of tradition or school this friend of yours is even running—you know, that yoga instructor you've got over in New York City. If I knew the specifics, we could actually dig into what’s going on here, like the actual philosophy behind it and what kind of practices they're pushing...

Fine, no problem. I'll ask him next time we talk... and then I'll get back to you with the specifics.

I know—mostly because it's interesting to hear—that half of them end up in a short-term psychotic state (which was bluemason3 saying, not me) labeled as "Kundalini syndrome"... they move past it... but some people genuinely end up in psychosis and on medication. It rarely goes smoothly for anyone...

I've messed around with Kundalini rising myself, too. The first things I noticed were a decreased need for sleep, a spike in creativity, and this intense subconscious processing of info (like code just sticking to existing knowledge more easily), plus heightened senses—music hits different, for example. I didn't keep going, I just wanted to see if it would actually do anything...

Paul Rogers94 said:It’s incomparable to any other psychedelic. LSD is more of a straight line—a steady state—whereas fungi are a full-blown rollercoaster of intense experiences (they have this incredibly distinct internal rhythm). They can punch right through you into genuine spiritual territory. My take? It’s easily the greatest thing ever; it's like a massive reservoir of pure knowledge. After a 'proper' trip, you walk away feeling like something actually *happened* to you for once in your life... and what happened is basically indescribable 😍. We're talking shamanic initiation vibes—everything from being swallowed by a serpent to experiencing total oneness... death and burial rituals leading straight into incredible bliss... It definitely isn't for everyone—as Terence McKenna says, Psychedelics don't work on Stupid People

Hmm, interesting stuff. Definitely sounds like it's time for me to go find some mushrooms.🤣

lonestag15 said:What kind of "philosophical debate" do you even need here? You've got the evidence, and that’s it. I mean, if you think people online are just going to volunteer their experiences regarding something as unpleasant as a psychotic break... then who else is going to provide that proof if not them?

Or look at it this way—you learn about these experiences indirectly, like how I found out through a buddy of mine...

Fine, no problem. I'll ask him next time we talk... and then I'll get back to you with the specifics.

I know—mostly because it's interesting to hear—that half of them end up in a short-term psychotic state (which was bluemason3 saying, not me) labeled as "Kundalini syndrome"... they move past it... but some people genuinely end up in psychosis and on medication. It rarely goes smoothly for anyone...

I've messed around with Kundalini rising myself, too. The first things I noticed were a decreased need for sleep, a spike in creativity, and this intense subconscious processing of info (like code just sticking to existing knowledge more easily), plus heightened senses—music hits different, for example. I didn't keep going, I just wanted to see if it would actually do anything...

What kind of proof? What are you even talking about here? Where is it actually proven that those specific practices cause psychosis, let alone that the psychosis in those people was caused solely by them? You're just talking nonsense, honestly, kind of like those sources that patriot keeps citing...

lonestag15 said:What kind of "philosophical debate" do you even need here? You've got the evidence, and that’s it. I mean, if you think people online are just going to volunteer their experiences regarding something as unpleasant as a psychotic break... then who else is going to provide that proof if not them?

Or look at it this way—you learn about these experiences indirectly, like how I found out through a buddy of mine...

Fine, no problem. I'll ask him next time we talk... and then I'll get back to you with the specifics.

I know—mostly because it's interesting to hear—that half of them end up in a short-term psychotic state (which was bluemason3 saying, not me) labeled as "Kundalini syndrome"... they move past it... but some people genuinely end up in psychosis and on medication. It rarely goes smoothly for anyone...

I've messed around with Kundalini rising myself, too. The first things I noticed were a decreased need for sleep, a spike in creativity, and this intense subconscious processing of info (like code just sticking to existing knowledge more easily), plus heightened senses—music hits different, for example. I didn't keep going, I just wanted to see if it would actually do anything...

Alright 🤣

Paul Rogers94 said:Exactly. And honestly, I'm not even sure if those substances are on the controlled list yet—you don't even need the dark web for this kind of thing.

I don't think they are; it’s just that growing mushrooms is illegal.

Theoretically, someone could monitor these conversations just to hunt for anyone growing mushrooms, but honestly, that seems like a massive waste of resources. Unless you're buying enough to suspect actual industrial-scale production or large-scale distribution, it’s pretty pointless.

Steven Stewart3 said:So how does that actually work though? Is it like an opioid, or more like LSD, or something else entirely?

It isn't an opiate. It's more like LSD in the sense that we're talking about serotonergic hallucinogens.

I wouldn't jump straight into using anything without knowing the subject matter better. Give yourself at least a few months to really dig in and understand what you’re deciding on. Make sure you look at it from all angles, not just the ones that sound good to you. Sites like Erowid are a solid place to start your research.

Also, if there’s any sign of personal or family history involving mental health issues linked to neurotransmitter hyperactivity—specifically manic episodes, psychosis, or indicators of schizophrenia—it's probably a no-go. The same applies if you deal with depersonalization, derealization, or more serious physical concerns like heart issues, blood pressure, or metabolic problems. Better to steer clear.

Paul Rogers94 said:It’s all just one single yoga. You can't have pure devotion without understanding, nor can you have selfless action without devotion—it’s a continuous loop. It really just comes down to a person's temperament; which aspect gets emphasized depends on who they are, but ultimately, it's all just a byproduct of those two paths I mentioned.

That's exactly what I was getting at when I brought up the "triangle." Sure, some systems focus heavily on just one corner or maybe two, while completely ignoring the others.

bluemason3 said:Yoga is pretty much useless, compared to the good drugs. 😁 It’s not just some stuff from America, and it’s certainly not just a bunch of plants. Most of it consists of much more tangible substances—though there are a few botanicals mixed in—and the benefits are pretty hard to ignore. 😛

I wasn't taking phenibut. Honestly, I’m not crazy enough to stockpile (pseudo)benzos like that.
I don't really get why Phenibut is such a huge trend right now. I guess for the alternative crowd, anything that doesn't require a prescription is automatically cooler. Personally, I don't see anything that makes it better than Xanax—I bought some once to try it out—but it seems to hit the stomach harder and builds a dependency way faster. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. 🤔
But that's beside the point. 😁

That division isn't exactly traditional, is it? I'm not sure if we saw anything like it before Swami Vivekananda.The terminology pops up, sure, but I haven't seen it framed as some kind of formal categorization in any of the traditional sources.) 🤔
At the end of the day, Hinduism is just pure chaos. There isn't a single tradition that stays consistent for more than one small group.

It’s a pretty standard way to look at it, though. You see it mentioned clearly right in the Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Yogas