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Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#301 ·
Joseph Moore6 said:Since there isn't a dedicated thread on Kurdistan, I’ll just drop this here.

In about five minutes, there's a four-part documentary series airing on CNN:

The Kurds: Pawns of the Superpowers

Airing July 28th on CNN at 10:10 PM (ET)

That documentary aired on ABC recently. It was actually quite a compelling piece of filmmaking.
electrictrucker82 electrictrucker82 Member
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joined Sep 2019
#302 ·
Maybe Erdiboi should consider opening up a few more fronts; it might be just what we need to keep the economy from bottoming out. 😁

"With summer resorts sitting half-empty, the country is staring down a massive financial deficit while the administration remains completely out of touch with reality."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/summer-tourism-slump-threatens-us-economy-deficit-concerns-rise
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#303 ·
I honestly find it a total mystery why the guy hasn't started working on an atomic bomb yet
neonviper92 neonviper92 Newcomer
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#304 ·
Lawrence Booth2 said:I honestly find it a total mystery why the guy hasn't started working on an atomic bomb yet

Are you sure about that?

He hasn't even been in Pakistan for six months.

The conversations were mostly focused on raw materials for the Turkish textile industry.😁

☕
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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joined Sep 2022
#305 ·
Is that what we're calling it these days?
😁

That charming, mustachioed guy—a total legend to his supporters, I guess.
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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joined Sep 2022
#306 ·
The local city administration just released word that Mujezin Osman Aslan passed away after suffering a heart attack at the Hagia Sophia—which, as we all know, was recently converted into a mosque.

"We want to extend our deepest condolences to the family and loved ones of Mujezin Osman Aslan, who passed away today while performing his volunteer duties as a guide at the Hagia Sophia mosque," the official statement read.
velvetstag5 velvetstag5 Member
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#307 ·
electrictrucker82 said:Maybe Erdiboi should consider opening up a few more fronts; it might be just what we need to keep the economy from bottoming out. 😁

"With summer resorts sitting half-empty, the country is staring down a massive financial deficit while the administration remains completely out of touch with reality."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/summer-tourism-slump-threatens-us-economy-deficit-concerns-rise

You've got it wrong. They have potential that we in the US can only

dream about.

And it isn't just about the money. It’s also about the people.
electrictrucker82 electrictrucker82 Member
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joined Sep 2019
#308 ·
velvetstag5 said:You've got it wrong. They have potential that we in the US can only

dream about.

And it isn't just about the money. It’s also about the people.

Anything is possible, though I'll admit I don't know enough about the situation in Turkey to say for sure. We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out.
Emily Fox2 Emily Fox2 Active Member
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#309 ·
Biden is pushing Turkey right into Russia's lap 😁
https://www.rt.com/news/498129-biden...urkey-outrage/
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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#310 ·
The European Union is telling Washington, D.C. to cut the gas exploration crap right now
http://hr.n1info.com/Svijet/a535790/...ima-plina.html

I mean, if only it weren't 🙂
steelfox98 steelfox98 Active Member
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#311 ·
Emily Fox2 said:Biden is pushing Turkey right into Russia's lap 😁
https://www.rt.com/news/498129-biden...urkey-outrage/

Color revolutions have become an end in themselves, driven by politicians with the intellectual depth of a toddler. If it suits them, it’s "regime change" or "supporting the opposition." Most don't even know who they're actually backing. The worst part? Even those bureaucrats in the EU have started adopting this tired rhetoric.

Nobody is defending Erdogan, but at the end of the day, Americans aren't the ones who should be choosing the Turkish president. Only Turks have that right.
placidjackal53 placidjackal53 Newcomer
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#312 ·
driftingtinker said:The European Union is telling Washington, D.C. to cut the gas exploration crap right now
http://hr.n1info.com/Svijet/a535790/...ima-plina.html

I mean, if only it weren't 🙂

Is this the same EU that welcomed them in? Don't hold your breath...

If someone wants to do something, they should just say it—maybe they're crazy, but even RTE doesn't have half the guts these people show. 🙏
Patrick Kim7 Patrick Kim7 Member
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#313 ·
Two big wins for Turkey today. They just uncovered a new gas field and reached a truce in Libya. I guess when things are meant to go your way, they really do.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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#314 ·
So, Putko sold those S-400s to Turkey, and now that the delivery is done, Erdoğan has started playing hardball with the Americans—even though the US actually set aside funds in their military budget to buy them back. The Democrats are basically having a field day, celebrating how the Sultan managed to outmaneuver Putko, but honestly? Who knows how this ends.

FSMTC denied reports of a contract with Turkey for The second S-400
https://ria.ru/20200823/turtsiya-1576199724.html

Looks like negotiations for another set are wrapping up.

Either Putko is a complete idiot, someone is just spinning a fantasy, or maybe the Americans have somehow become major customers for Russian hardware. I guess we'll see.
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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#315 ·
Patrick Kim7 said:Two big wins for Turkey today. They just uncovered a new gas field and reached a truce in Libya. I guess when things are meant to go your way, they really do.

Two wins?

First one: the UAE is sending four F-16s to Greece to help out.
Tensions in the Mediterranean: The United Arab Emirates are sending four F-16 in Greece

Second one: Libya already had a ceasefire back in March 2019.
It didn't last long at all.
This one won't either...
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#316 ·
The latest Turkish drone is officially moving into production.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...mpression=true

With a service ceiling reaching 40,000 feet and an endurance of 24 hours, how could any short-range air defense system possibly hope to intercept this new drone? Its operational radius is set at 600 kilometers (373 miles), featuring a maximum takeoff weight of 4.5 tons and a total payload capacity of 1,350 kilograms—split between 900 kilograms externally and 450 kilograms internally. The craft will be driven by two Ukrainian Ivchenko-Progress AI-450C turboprop engines, each pumping out 550 horsepower. To date, Turkey Has sol Far imported 12 such engines fra Ukraine, which remains its primary strategic partner in drone technology development.
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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#317 ·
The Eastern Mediterranean: Turkey, Erdoğan, Greece, Cyprus, gas, the EU, and Libya.
The Eastern Mediterranean and its role in history

A Spanish newspaper, available in three languages: Spanish, French, and English.
I love their style... they just write things straight up, totally unfiltered...
Patrick Kim7 Patrick Kim7 Member
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#318 ·
Sam Alvarez4 said:The Eastern Mediterranean: Turkey, Erdoğan, Greece, Cyprus, gas, the EU, and Libya.
The Eastern Mediterranean and its role in history

A Spanish newspaper, available in three languages: Spanish, French, and English.
I love their style... they just write things straight up, totally unfiltered...

The article makes for an interesting read, though it is definitely one-sided. I actually asked around here earlier if people thought it was fair for an island like Kastelorizo to claim such a massive EEZ based on conventions that both Turkey and the USA haven't even signed. To me, when looking at this issue, you shouldn't just frame it as "Turkish aggression against Greek waters." Instead, we should view them as international waters—which they technically are—until an agreement on economic zones is actually reached.
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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#319 ·
Patrick Kim7 said:The article makes for an interesting read, though it is definitely one-sided. I actually asked around here earlier if people thought it was fair for an island like Kastelorizo to claim such a massive EEZ based on conventions that both Turkey and the USA haven't even signed. To me, when looking at this issue, you shouldn't just frame it as "Turkish aggression against Greek waters." Instead, we should view them as international waters—which they technically are—until an agreement on economic zones is actually reached.

To be totally honest, I don't really follow Turkish affairs closely enough to join the debate. I'd end up spending way too much time Googling everything first!

I only started paying real attention to the tensions in that part of the Mediterranean recently, right after France stepped in militarily by sending Rafales, La Fayette, and Tonnere ships.
When the French start making moves like that, you know things are getting seriously heated... and that's never good for anyone...
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#320 ·
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan made it crystal clear this Wednesday: he’s willing to do whatever it takes to secure their rights in the Black, Aegean, and Mediterranean Seas.

"We aren't making any compromises on what belongs to us... We're ready to do whatever is necessary," Erdoğan stated. This comes right after the German Foreign Minister tried playing peacemaker to cool things down between Turkey and Greece over who controls the waters in the eastern Mediterranean.

While speaking at an event commemorating the Seljuk Turks' military victory over the Byzantine Empire at Malazgirt, Erdoğan also warned his Greek counterparts to avoid making mistakes that would lead to their own destruction.

Things have been heating up between Turkey and Greece since Ankara sent their research vessel, the Oruç Reis, into those contested eastern Mediterranean waters this month—a move Athens slammed as illegal.

Even though Turkey and Greece are both NATO allies, they are locked in a massive standoff over hydrocarbon resource rights, mostly because they can't agree on where their continental shelf boundaries lie near those heavily Greek islands.

"If anyone is actually prepared to pay the price, let them step up. If not, they should just get out of the way so we can get on with our business," Erdoğan said.

Germany tried stepping in to mediate between Ankara and Athens. Both sides claim they want to talk, but they've both issued warnings that they won't back down when it comes to defending their regional interests.

Meanwhile, France is set to join Italy, Greece, and Cyprus for military exercises in the eastern Mediterranean through August 28th.

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