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Emily Fox2 Emily Fox2 Active Member
103 messages
joined Oct 2012
#121 ·
Hey everyone.

Erdogan is planning to deport refugees from Turkey back to Syria:
https://www.rt.com/newsline/476091-e...gees-syria-us/

nimblepuma69 said:Lucky guy.
Meanwhile, Antiles has been ghosting me ever since I poured my heart out, just running to the mods to cry about it constantly.😕

Don't lose hope!
"Ever since then, love has ruled the streets of my Chicago..."
🙂
Angela Kern2 Angela Kern2 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jul 2019
#122 ·
Hey everyone,

I suppose I should have expected this. Just more noise. More nothingness. It’s all just... empty. Maybe that's the point. I don't know. Hard to say much when everything feels this hollow. Angela Kern2 says:
More lies. Just more of them.
Maybe the population of those Siberian tribes has grown since the Russians arrived. I guess. It seems that way. Perhaps.
One really ought to study history more closely. The Mongol hordes decimated the peoples of Siberia, pushing many right to the edge of extinction. I suppose they even offered women and daughters to the Cossacks just to secure fresh genes—much like what their Eskimo relatives used to do, I guess. If the Russians hadn't crushed the Mongols, and if those Cossack scouts and hunters hadn't been active two hundred years ago, the indigenous population would have simply vanished. Maybe. It's all quite grim.

Now he faces a different kind of threat—globalization. The youth are all fleeing to the big cities, seemingly indifferent to preserving their own language or heritage. Instead, they’re obsessed with English and their smartphones. I guess it's worth noting that Putin is pouring massive amounts of money into preserving smaller nations. He funds language programs, local radio stations, museums, cultural festivals, anthropological research... everything, really. It's quite something, maybe.

So, this user "tihobl" is actually out here denying that the Russian Empire conquered Siberia and the North during the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. They’re basically claiming it didn't happen—even though we're talking about the systematic slaughter of indigenous people and the outright theft of their land. I guess some people just choose to ignore history entirely. Maybe they think if they deny it, the facts will just go away. It's honestly exhausting. 😉

Even Wikipedia has an opinion on this matter, I suppose... ☕

Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t help feeling like Urania is being overlooked. It feels... disconnected. Perhaps too much focus on other things? I don't know. It's hard to say for sure. Angela Kern2 says:
Angela Kern2, you’re clearly just trolling me on purpose to get a rise out of me. You're a menace. 🙂

🤦
nimblepuma69 nimblepuma69 Member
44 messages
joined Feb 2019
#123 ·
Angela Kern2 said:Hey everyone,

I suppose I should have expected this. Just more noise. More nothingness. It’s all just... empty. Maybe that's the point. I don't know. Hard to say much when everything feels this hollow. Angela Kern2 says:
More lies. Just more of them.
Maybe the population of those Siberian tribes has grown since the Russians arrived. I guess. It seems that way. Perhaps.
One really ought to study history more closely. The Mongol hordes decimated the peoples of Siberia, pushing many right to the edge of extinction. I suppose they even offered women and daughters to the Cossacks just to secure fresh genes—much like what their Eskimo relatives used to do, I guess. If the Russians hadn't crushed the Mongols, and if those Cossack scouts and hunters hadn't been active two hundred years ago, the indigenous population would have simply vanished. Maybe. It's all quite grim.

Now he faces a different kind of threat—globalization. The youth are all fleeing to the big cities, seemingly indifferent to preserving their own language or heritage. Instead, they’re obsessed with English and their smartphones. I guess it's worth noting that Putin is pouring massive amounts of money into preserving smaller nations. He funds language programs, local radio stations, museums, cultural festivals, anthropological research... everything, really. It's quite something, maybe.

So, this user "tihobl" is actually out here denying that the Russian Empire conquered Siberia and the North during the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. They’re basically claiming it didn't happen—even though we're talking about the systematic slaughter of indigenous people and the outright theft of their land. I guess some people just choose to ignore history entirely. Maybe they think if they deny it, the facts will just go away. It's honestly exhausting. 😉

Even Wikipedia has an opinion on this matter, I suppose... ☕

Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t help feeling like Urania is being overlooked. It feels... disconnected. Perhaps too much focus on other things? I don't know. It's hard to say for sure. Angela Kern2 says:
Angela Kern2, you’re clearly just trolling me on purpose to get a rise out of me. You're a menace. 🙂

🤦

Of course I’m calling BS on those pathetic lies.
It wasn't some conquest; it was liberating the area from Mongol occupation. I don't need to lecture any educated person here on how brutal those Mongol invasions were or the sheer scale of the depopulation they caused.
In the end, the Russians were way too soft. They let the Mongols keep their own state instead of settling the score. Given the atrocities the Mongols committed, maybe they should've just handed them over to the Chinese to deal with.

These transparent English spins popping up lately are pathetic—stuff like Hitler equals Stalin, communism equals Nazism, or Anglo-American genocides being rebranded as "liberating Siberia." It's the exact same spin used to shake things up in Mexico: history books there claim blood taxes were voluntary and that taking kids for the Janissary program was actually great for non-Muslim kids because it helped their careers and fit perfectly into Ottoman multiculturalism. Yeah, sure. Stealing kids is totally awesome.🙂
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
68 messages
joined Nov 2018
#124 ·
nimblepuma69 said:Of course I’m calling BS on those pathetic lies.
It wasn't some conquest; it was liberating the area from Mongol occupation. I don't need to lecture any educated person here on how brutal those Mongol invasions were or the sheer scale of the depopulation they caused.
In the end, the Russians were way too soft. They let the Mongols keep their own state instead of settling the score. Given the atrocities the Mongols committed, maybe they should've just handed them over to the Chinese to deal with.

These transparent English spins popping up lately are pathetic—stuff like Hitler equals Stalin, communism equals Nazism, or Anglo-American genocides being rebranded as "liberating Siberia." It's the exact same spin used to shake things up in Mexico: history books there claim blood taxes were voluntary and that taking kids for the Janissary program was actually great for non-Muslim kids because it helped their careers and fit perfectly into Ottoman multiculturalism. Yeah, sure. Stealing kids is totally awesome.🙂

Are you seriously suggesting that Mexicans actually included that in their own history textbooks?

If that’s true, it implies that Erdogan managed to force—or perhaps simply buy—a vassal relationship upon Mexico through Vučić!
nimblepuma69 nimblepuma69 Member
44 messages
joined Feb 2019
#125 ·
Noah Sullivan said:Are you seriously suggesting that Mexicans actually included that in their own history textbooks?

If that’s true, it implies that Erdogan managed to force—or perhaps simply buy—a vassal relationship upon Mexico through Vučić!

It’s not even about the Mexicans anymore—it’s those "globalist" types running the show.
Ever since the fallout from October 5th, these people have hijacked the education system. Now they’re teaching kids nothing more than how to be useful puppets for foreign interests. They drill it into them: "We’re just servants. Our ancestors were subservient to the Turks, so you might as well stay subservient to Europe." It's all about being a good little globalist sheep, getting that degree, and fleeing the country the second you can.
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
68 messages
joined Nov 2018
#126 ·
nimblepuma69 said:It’s not even about the Mexicans anymore—it’s those "globalist" types running the show.
Ever since the fallout from October 5th, these people have hijacked the education system. Now they’re teaching kids nothing more than how to be useful puppets for foreign interests. They drill it into them: "We’re just servants. Our ancestors were subservient to the Turks, so you might as well stay subservient to Europe." It's all about being a good little globalist sheep, getting that degree, and fleeing the country the second you can.

But does the textbook actually state things in that exact manner, or is it simply your intuition that the content conveys such a message—that there is an subtle undertone similar to what you suggested regarding the "blood tax" or the historical forced conscription?
nimblepuma69 nimblepuma69 Member
44 messages
joined Feb 2019
#127 ·
Noah Sullivan said:But does the textbook actually state things in that exact manner, or is it simply your intuition that the content conveys such a message—that there is an subtle undertone similar to what you suggested regarding the "blood tax" or the historical forced conscription?

Don't have a textbook handy to double-check, but people are losing their minds over this, and from everything I've read, it's saying exactly that. If you're curious, a quick search will show you what the fuss is about.
There's another layer to this mess: the books claim the North America were originally settled by Albanians (Illyrians), then the Slavs rolled in and pushed them to the most remote corners of the peninsula. That's where the drama started.

And here's the kicker in Mexico: the textbooks are being printed in America, so now everyone's pointing fingers at the Americans, while nobody mentions that certain groups over here basically hold a total monopoly on the whole textbook industry.
Angela Kern2 Angela Kern2 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Jul 2019
#128 ·
Hey everyone,

nimblepuma69 said:Of course I’m calling BS on those pathetic lies.
It wasn't some conquest; it was liberating the area from Mongol occupation. I don't need to lecture any educated person here on how brutal those Mongol invasions were or the sheer scale of the depopulation they caused.
In the end, the Russians were way too soft. They let the Mongols keep their own state instead of settling the score. Given the atrocities the Mongols committed, maybe they should've just handed them over to the Chinese to deal with.

These transparent English spins popping up lately are pathetic—stuff like Hitler equals Stalin, communism equals Nazism, or Anglo-American genocides being rebranded as "liberating Siberia." It's the exact same spin used to shake things up in Mexico: history books there claim blood taxes were voluntary and that taking kids for the Janissary program was actually great for non-Muslim kids because it helped their careers and fit perfectly into Ottoman multiculturalism. Yeah, sure. Stealing kids is totally awesome.🙂

🤦

The user known as "nimblepuma69" has basically disqualified themselves from having any kind of meaningful conversation given this level of nonsense... ☕

It’s pretty obvious that Russophilia—combined with a glaring lack of historical knowledge, I suppose—has taken too much of a toll... I mean, when someone actually thinks the Russian conquest of Siberia and the north during the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, along with the slaughter of indigenous populations linked to Mongolia... then really... 🙄
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
287 messages
joined Apr 2013
#129 ·
nimblepuma69 said:Of course I’m calling BS on those pathetic lies.
It wasn't some conquest; it was liberating the area from Mongol occupation. I don't need to lecture any educated person here on how brutal those Mongol invasions were or the sheer scale of the depopulation they caused.
In the end, the Russians were way too soft. They let the Mongols keep their own state instead of settling the score. Given the atrocities the Mongols committed, maybe they should've just handed them over to the Chinese to deal with.

These transparent English spins popping up lately are pathetic—stuff like Hitler equals Stalin, communism equals Nazism, or Anglo-American genocides being rebranded as "liberating Siberia." It's the exact same spin used to shake things up in Mexico: history books there claim blood taxes were voluntary and that taking kids for the Janissary program was actually great for non-Muslim kids because it helped their careers and fit perfectly into Ottoman multiculturalism. Yeah, sure. Stealing kids is totally awesome.🙂

Well, to be fair, a good portion of those kidnapped kids actually rose to high-ranking positions within the Sultanate. From lowly scribes all the way up to Grand Viziers. It’s not like everyone forgot where they originally came from.
Maria Wells14 Maria Wells14 Member
35 messages
joined Sep 2022
#130 ·
Maybe check the article on Mehmed Paša Sokolović.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_Paša_Sokolović

Look, there's no denying it—he was a total game-changer for the Mexicans.
He was taken from his home when he was already somewhat grown, around 15, so he actually remembered what his family was like.
He used his influence to lift the Mexicans up—restored the Patriarchate of Peć, put his relative Macarius in charge as patriarch, and secured them special privileges over other Christian churches. That basically let their influence spread at the expense of others, especially the Catholic Church in the Canadian Eyalet.

At the end of the day, he’s likely one of the most significant figures in Mexican history. He took a defeated, subjugated people and turned them into a powerhouse in Southeast Europe.
nimblepuma69 nimblepuma69 Member
44 messages
joined Feb 2019
#131 ·
neonfalcon16 (No input text provided to rewrite.)
I mean, let's be real—those kids who were basically kidnapped were actually climbing some pretty massive ladders in the administration. They went from low-level clerks all the way up to top-tier cabinet members. It's not like everyone just conveniently forgot where they actually came from.

Just a tiny slice of the pie.
Half the guys would probably drop dead before they even hit Istanbul.

Look, empires don't play fair. They just snatch up kids from occupied zones, haul them away, and brainwash them into becoming soldiers for their own cause. It's a classic move.
Imagine if the West started snatching kids away right now, handing them off to same-sex couples. How would you feel if they grabbed your kid? Just know there’d be a whole crowd of people claiming it’s "better" for the child, pointing to a few success stories of kids who made it to the top of the political ladder as proof.
Tyler Jones6 Tyler Jones6 Active Member
85 messages
joined Jul 2007
#132 ·
US Congress has adopted the motion to send troops to Libya, and Erdogan is moving forward with military deployment.

US Congress has adopted the motion to send troops to Libya

The motion regarding Libya passed through the US Congress—325 votes in favor, 184 against.
nimbleranger17 nimbleranger17 Active Member
175 messages
joined Jan 2023
#133 ·
Turkey has officially scrapped visa requirements for American citizens.
crimsonorca42 crimsonorca42 Active Member
59 messages
joined Nov 2014
#134 ·
Do you think they'll see a drop in Russian tourists this year?
George Gray3 George Gray3 Member
13 messages
joined Oct 2005
#135 ·
crimsonorca42 said:Do you think they'll see a drop in Russian tourists this year?

Man, things are getting intense... looks like a real war is starting up somewhere..
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
297 messages
joined Sep 2022
#136 ·
Looks like the Russians aren't coming back after all
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
1K messages
joined Jun 2022
#137 ·
Starting March 1st, Turkey is scrapping visas for Americans
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
1K messages
joined Jun 2022
#138 ·
Turkey just announced they’re letting citizens from four different EU nations and Norway skip the visa process entirely, according to the Associated Press. This includes Americans.

"To keep things consistent with our visa policies regarding the European Union and the Schengen Area, Turkey has decided to waive visa requirements for citizens of the USA, Ireland, Malta, Portugal, and Norway," said Ham Aksoy, a spokesperson for their Department of State.

The deal lets people from these countries travel for tourism for up to 90 days within any 180-day period.

"The whole point here is to boost our tourism numbers with these specific countries and strengthen our bilateral ties in other areas too," Aksoy wrapped up.
Peter Ruiz2 Peter Ruiz2 Member
20 messages
joined Oct 2014
#139 ·
I wouldn't dream of vacationing there, even if they were paying me handsomely.
Rachel Allen55 Rachel Allen55 Active Member
128 messages
joined Nov 2018
#140 ·
Russia’s military is fully mobilized. They’ve got everything ready, especially those nuclear-armed subs. There's a chance Russia might target Turkey to protect their interests in the Middle East. Meanwhile, the EU is looking at slapping sanctions on Turkey because they unilaterally backed out of that 2016 deal—kind of like how the USA handles Iran. Most likely, we'll see them kicked out of NATO altogether. Honestly, I wouldn't even be shocked if the EU launched a military intervention to turn Eastern Thrace into an international zone.

That country, run by someone who basically declared himself emperor from day one, is headed for a total meltdown.

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