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How do I dig myself out of a financial hole?

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Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
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#41 ·
Selling your soul to the devil is one thing—but when you deal with loan sharks, you’re basically putting your physical safety on the line, too.

Are you honestly, truly certain that you'll be able to keep up with repayments when the interest rates eventually skyrocket to some absurd, predatory level? It's a massive gamble. Unlike taking out a standard loan from somewhere like Bank of America, where a missed payment might just mean a stern letter in your mailbox, dealing with a shark means you won't be getting polite correspondence. Instead, you'll likely find someone like Steve—someone volatile and prone to violence—showing up right at your front door.
Ronald Green3 Ronald Green3 Newcomer
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#42 ·
Loan sharks? Please... When I was younger, I actually dabbled in that world for a bit. I’d lend someone $2,000 and end up handing over $10,000 or even $20,000 just to get them off my back, and they’d still somehow owe me money. Eventually, I just lost my stomach for the whole racket.
Alex White7 Alex White7 Newcomer
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#43 ·
Nicholas King said:Selling your soul to the devil is one thing—but when you deal with loan sharks, you’re basically putting your physical safety on the line, too.

Are you honestly, truly certain that you'll be able to keep up with repayments when the interest rates eventually skyrocket to some absurd, predatory level? It's a massive gamble. Unlike taking out a standard loan from somewhere like Bank of America, where a missed payment might just mean a stern letter in your mailbox, dealing with a shark means you won't be getting polite correspondence. Instead, you'll likely find someone like Steve—someone volatile and prone to violence—showing up right at your front door.

I've never actually dealt with them, and honestly, I don't know anyone nearby who has either. Is there no way to work out a deal with people like that?🤣 I'm not sure what else to do. Companies like those online lenders are pretty much all the same, though here at least I can borrow a larger amount for a slightly longer period. Asking friends or family to take out a loan for me is basically impossible since they have enough problems of their own, and I don't want to be a burden. It isn't about pride—I left my pride at the door the moment I started begging for money online.🤦
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active Member
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#44 ·
Does Bank of America check your Premium status or your ECC standing with Diners Club before they approve a credit card? If they don't, it might actually be a smart move to pick up one of those cards. Why not shift as many expenses as possible onto installments for a while until you can catch your breath? Nowadays, you can even put your grocery runs at Walmart on a payment plan.

Taking out a high-interest cash advance from a lender just to grab a few thousand dollars is way too expensive—let alone trying to pull $25,000. That should strictly be your absolute last resort if you’re truly drowning financially. And honestly, I hope it doesn't even come to that.
Alex White7 Alex White7 Newcomer
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#45 ·
Ronald Green3 said:Loan sharks? Please... When I was younger, I actually dabbled in that world for a bit. I’d lend someone $2,000 and end up handing over $10,000 or even $20,000 just to get them off my back, and they’d still somehow owe me money. Eventually, I just lost my stomach for the whole racket.

What would you do?
I was thinking about using part of this money to pay down what I still owe. My credit score should improve by next year, so I'm planning to apply for a loan at Bank of America to just clear everything out in one go. Is that unrealistic?🤔
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
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#46 ·
So, you’re telling me you have steady income streams during that period—like from a Zubic villa?

Honestly, you don't sound like someone with a career where finding work is easy, losing it is hard, and the paycheck is substantial.

Why on earth would you be taking out a new loan just to cover existing ones? Where is this rush coming from? Or maybe... I don't know, maybe you've only shared a fraction of the actual story here...
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#47 ·
Can someone explain why you’re so desperate for that $25,000 that you'd be willing to do just about anything to get your hands on it?
Look, my take might not be popular here, but I honestly don't get it—how can people working full-time for seven months straight not manage to save $8333, yet they genuinely believe they'll somehow scrape together enough to pay it all back—plus interest—in the next seven, fourteen, or twenty-one months? Some people clearly lack even a shred of self-awareness or basic logic.

Edit: Just caught the last post. Honestly, I don't understand the math behind these moves—taking out a second loan just to cover the first one? It would be so much simpler to just tighten your belt, pay off the debt without piling on more, and then actually live within your means.
boldnomad45 boldnomad45 Active Member
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#48 ·
Daniel Davis40 said:Can someone explain why you’re so desperate for that $25,000 that you'd be willing to do just about anything to get your hands on it?
Look, my take might not be popular here, but I honestly don't get it—how can people working full-time for seven months straight not manage to save $8333, yet they genuinely believe they'll somehow scrape together enough to pay it all back—plus interest—in the next seven, fourteen, or twenty-one months? Some people clearly lack even a shred of self-awareness or basic logic.

Edit: Just caught the last post. Honestly, I don't understand the math behind these moves—taking out a second loan just to cover the first one? It would be so much simpler to just tighten your belt, pay off the debt without piling on more, and then actually live within your means.

I've always wondered who takes out loans from loan sharks if they aren't a gambler.
Go work in Ireland, or maybe Austria for a few months; you'd make that kind of money.
And I'm genuinely curious—what's so urgent that you're even considering loan sharks?
You're anonymous here, so just say it.
Alex White7 Alex White7 Newcomer
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#49 ·
Nicholas King said:So, you’re telling me you have steady income streams during that period—like from a Zubic villa?

Honestly, you don't sound like someone with a career where finding work is easy, losing it is hard, and the paycheck is substantial.

Why on earth would you be taking out a new loan just to cover existing ones? Where is this rush coming from? Or maybe... I don't know, maybe you've only shared a fraction of the actual story here...

Daniel Davis40 said:Can someone explain why you’re so desperate for that $25,000 that you'd be willing to do just about anything to get your hands on it?
Look, my take might not be popular here, but I honestly don't get it—how can people working full-time for seven months straight not manage to save $8333, yet they genuinely believe they'll somehow scrape together enough to pay it all back—plus interest—in the next seven, fourteen, or twenty-one months? Some people clearly lack even a shred of self-awareness or basic logic.

Edit: Just caught the last post. Honestly, I don't understand the math behind these moves—taking out a second loan just to cover the first one? It would be so much simpler to just tighten your belt, pay off the debt without piling on more, and then actually live within your means.

boldnomad45 said:I've always wondered who takes out loans from loan sharks if they aren't a gambler.
Go work in Ireland, or maybe Austria for a few months; you'd make that kind of money.
And I'm genuinely curious—what's so urgent that you're even considering loan sharks?
You're anonymous here, so just say it.

My dad passed away almost two years ago, and he left behind a mountain of debt that we’re still chipping away at. We also had to borrow money for the funeral because it all happened so suddenly, and then last year we had to buy a new car since fixing the old one just wasn't worth the cost anymore. On top of that, I was sick for six months, so my mom was the only one bringing in any income. I finally started a new job last month—it's a contract position, and the pay is a bit better than minimum wage, unlike my last one. But with everything we have to pay off, and most of my mom's paycheck going toward my late father's debts, there's just no way I'll be able to save any significant amount of money even in five years.

It’s urgent because I need to get out of here. I’ve been putting this off for a long time because it’s easy to feel guilty when you're dealing with the person who gave birth to you (and there's some other bullshit involved), but if I don't leave by my next birthday at the end of next year, it won't happen. Leaving this house is my last shot; nothing—not the meds, not the therapy—is helping, and even Sparrow is useless to me.

I was planning on using that money to clear off the rest of my debts and put down a deposit on an apartment in a bigger city. It would mean my mom could finally be free from my dad's debts, so I wouldn't have to worry about her anymore. Then I could actually be "free" from this current circus and try to build a better life for myself.

Finding work won't be an issue for me since I've done just about everything and have plenty of experience, plus the pay is decent enough in the city. My plan was to borrow the funds with a set agreement to pay them back by a specific date next year, say early June. I’d land my first job and stay there long enough to qualify for a bank loan, then pull out exactly what I owe my lender—at least the interest rates at a place like Chase would be reasonable.

Unless money just falls from the sky, I don't really have another option.
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
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#50 ·
I feel for you regarding your situation and having to foot the bill for someone else's mess, but honestly—your current plan is full of holes.

Sure, salaries in a place like Washington, D.C. might be higher, but let’s be real: the cost of living—starting with rent alone—is also through the roof. And if you're just looking for jobs that pay slightly above minimum wage, don't expect to see five figures anytime soon; besides, saying you'll "do whatever it takes" usually implies you lack a specialized skill set you can actually monetize. BTW, once summer wraps up, finding work won't be nearly as easy as it is now.

It seems like you've lost your patience and are now reaching for a quick fix. That's a recipe for disaster, seriously.
Michael Wilson5 Michael Wilson5 Newcomer
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#51 ·
Reading this and, well... sorry for jumping in, but I wanted to share my own experience. I've been at the same job for two and a half years now, permanent position. I have an overdraft limit of $8,000 and monthly installments of $2,500. I submitted a loan application and went down to the bank with all my paperwork. Before that, I spoke with a representative over the phone and laid everything out—all those debts I mentioned above. She told me there shouldn't be any issues getting the loan approved since I wasn't asking for a massive amount. A few days later, I walk into the branch with the documentation, and the banker asks where I work. I tell him I'm in the restaurant industry, and he shuts me down immediately. Says there's no way a loan is happening because hospitality is too risky right now, especially with COVID still hanging around. I've never had a loan before. I'm in a spot where I need the cash right now because of a situation I just can't resolve without it. I was asking for $2,200... honestly, I'm just disappointed in how the bank treats its clients. It makes me wonder about what this woman wrote. What are you supposed to do when there's simply no other way out? When you need the money immediately because something unpredictable happened, and after years of being a reliable customer, you turn to the bank and they just leave you hanging
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#52 ·
Alex White7 Asks:
My father passed away nearly two years ago—leaving behind a mountain of debt that we’re still struggling to climb out of—plus we had to borrow money just to cover the funeral costs because everything happened so suddenly. Then, last year, we were forced to buy a new car since fixing the old one was becoming a total money pit. To make matters worse, I was sidelined by illness for six months, leaving my mother as the sole breadwinner for the entire family. I finally landed a new job last month—it's a contract position, nothing permanent—and while the pay is slightly better than minimum wage (a small upgrade from last year, at least), there's zero breathing room. Between all the bills and the fact that most of my mom's income is being swallowed up by my late father's financial mess, there is absolutely no way I can save any significant amount of money, even if I grind for the next five years.

It’s urgent—I need to get out of here. I’ve been putting this off for way too long, mostly because it’s easy to let myself sink into guilt when dealing with the person who brought me into this world—but that’s a whole other mess entirely. If I don't make my move by the end of next year, before my birthday hits, the opportunity will be gone for good. Getting away from this house is my absolute last shot; nothing else is working—not the medication, not the therapy, and even my Sparrow sessions have become completely useless.

I had every intention of using that money to clear out the remaining debts and put down a deposit on an apartment in a bigger city—somewhere like Chicago or maybe New York. My mother would finally be free from my father's mounting debts, which means I wouldn't have to constantly worry about her—and more importantly, I could finally break away from this current circus and actually try to build a decent life for myself.

Finding a job won't be an issue for me—I’ve done just about everything under the sun and I have plenty of experience to show for it—but let's face it, the pay scales in DC are still a bit underwhelming. My plan is to borrow some capital upfront, with a firm agreement to pay it back by a specific date next year—say, early June. The strategy is simple: grab the first solid position I can find, stay long enough to build up the credit history needed to secure a loan from a bank like Chase, and then pull that money out to settle my debt with whoever I borrowed from. At least with a major bank, the interest rates will actually be reasonable.

Unless I suddenly strike it rich out of thin air, I don't exactly have another option.

Give me a break—why on earth would you take out a loan just to head up to Washington, D.C.? You’d literally need... $667And why on earth would you take out a loan because of that?
Since you've got reliable internet access, now is the time to start scouting apartments and rooms around Washington, D.C.—seriously, look at them right now. This is your window of opportunity because the students have already cleared out, and the new crop hasn't arrived yet. Once that rush starts, finding anything remotely affordable becomes an absolute nightmare. You should probably find someone to help you hunt for a roommate, too.
I have no idea what kind of work you’ve done up to this point, but food delivery is absolutely booming in Washington, D.C. right now—you could sign up with DoorDash, Uber Eats, or Pause and start making moves immediately. Assuming you have an old bike lying around somewhere, you should be good to go; if not, just check the "Sharing is caring" group on Facebook. Someone there will likely give you one or at least let you borrow it.
If you’ve spent your career working in restaurants or retail food service and you’re looking to pivot into the whole eco-conscious or vegan lifestyle niche, reach out—I can point you toward some immediate openings. I won't sugarcoat it: the pay isn't exactly life-changing right out of the gate. This is just what's currently on my radar—there are undoubtedly a mountain of other options out there—but I’m not deeply embedded in those specific circles, so I don't have eyes on everything. I do know there is a massive demand for childcare and instructional roles. There are also remote gigs available where you can pull in some extra cash, though again, if you want to see anything meaningful, you’re going to have to work your tail off.

Look, you should honestly try to get ahead of this while you're still at home—start calling around and scouting for work now. You want everything lined up before you even arrive. And regarding the apartment hunt? Trust me, landlords are always going to jump on someone who already has a steady paycheck over someone claiming they're "about to start looking." Even if that's not actually true, it just sounds better in their heads—and in this market, perception is everything.
Look, once you finally take a step back—once you actually get your head on straight and stand on your own two feet—that’s when you should start thinking about paying off someone else's debt. You do that with whatever is left over from your paycheck after you've covered your own damn expenses. You don't go out and take out new loans to cover for them. Period.

Either pack your bags and head abroad if you're so desperate to escape—that’s actually your best bet for paying off those debts faster—and then maybe, just maybe, you can move back to DC or wherever else you fancy. But listen, do yourself a favor: secure a job before you even think about leaving, and for heaven's sake, stop taking out new loans.
Daniel Davis40 Daniel Davis40 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#53 ·
Michael Wilson5 said:Reading this and, well... sorry for jumping in, but I wanted to share my own experience. I've been at the same job for two and a half years now, permanent position. I have an overdraft limit of $8,000 and monthly installments of $2,500. I submitted a loan application and went down to the bank with all my paperwork. Before that, I spoke with a representative over the phone and laid everything out—all those debts I mentioned above. She told me there shouldn't be any issues getting the loan approved since I wasn't asking for a massive amount. A few days later, I walk into the branch with the documentation, and the banker asks where I work. I tell him I'm in the restaurant industry, and he shuts me down immediately. Says there's no way a loan is happening because hospitality is too risky right now, especially with COVID still hanging around. I've never had a loan before. I'm in a spot where I need the cash right now because of a situation I just can't resolve without it. I was asking for $2,200... honestly, I'm just disappointed in how the bank treats its clients. It makes me wonder about what this woman wrote. What are you supposed to do when there's simply no other way out? When you need the money immediately because something unpredictable happened, and after years of being a reliable customer, you turn to the bank and they just leave you hanging

Come on, lay out your situation so we can try to find a solution for you that doesn't involve a bank loan.

Personally, I’d view it as the bank doing me a favor by not handing out a risky loan, and I'd probably start questioning the stability of my own job—but that’s just me.
rowdyotter12 rowdyotter12 Member
48 messages
joined Jul 2020
#54 ·
It’s almost funny, isn't it? But that's just how the world works... when you're actually desperate and need the help—they shut the door. But the moment you don't need it anymore? Suddenly, they're all over you with offers.

Let's be clear: banks aren't exactly in the business of stepping up to rescue people in the middle of a crisis.

So, Michael Wilson5, are you actually looking at getting more than two-thirds of the total amount you're after?
Michael Wilson5 Michael Wilson5 Newcomer
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#55 ·
Not sure what else to say. I’ve talked to some loan brokers, and they all say the same thing: banks just aren't playing ball with small business owners right now. They don't seem to grasp the situation at all. It feels absurd that even a "small" amount of capital isn't being considered. Let's be clear—when you need funding, there is no such thing as a small amount. I even tried setting a one-year repayment term to make it more attractive, but still nothing.
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active Member
230 messages
joined Mar 2020
#56 ·
Yeah, honestly, that’s such a tiny amount. Is there any way you could just put that on a credit card? You mentioned you have a job, right? Unless you're dealing with some kind of legal garnishment or debt collection, getting an advance shouldn't be much of a hurdle at all.
rowdyotter12 rowdyotter12 Member
48 messages
joined Jul 2020
#57 ·
Which bank are you currently using? I was thinking—if you happen to switch over to Goldman Sachs—you might actually be able to pull this off through their Erste installment plan.
You could potentially grab the cash from an ATM right away (though there’ll be a fee, of course) and then just settle up via monthly payments. It might be worth swinging by a branch to see if they'll clear it for you.
If they can make it work, fantastic; if not, just shoot me a DM.
Michael Wilson5 Michael Wilson5 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2020
#58 ·
I've never actually been under a lien myself, and I don't carry any credit cards. Maybe I should look into getting one now just to see if that opens any doors if there's no other way.
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
297 messages
joined Sep 2022
#59 ·
I really went overboard with my spending this year—I picked up about 145 fiction titles and maybe 50 non-fiction books... and yeah, quite a few of them were pretty pricey
so now I’m basically training myself by wandering through bookstores without actually buying anything 😁 I’ve definitely gotten some practice in
cut all my expenses down to the absolute bare minimum
this is actually the first time I've ever found myself in this spot since I started tracking my finances at age 22—well, technically since I was 13 when I started keeping records
but hey, luckily I'm not totally in the red because of the book habit; I can always sell some off for nearly what I paid
the main thing is just breaking the cycle

plus, I still have a couple hundred dollars in credit card debt from those book hauls 😁 that I need to clear by the end of the year, and then I'll be set

basically, when you find yourself squeezed for cash, you have to change your habits
stop buying the stuff that dragged you into the gutter
starting right now... at this very second
you won't see the results immediately, but things will get easier eventually
it's just like trying to lose weight or dropping extra pounds
you just have to watch it every single day
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
297 messages
joined Sep 2022
#60 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:They went ahead and pushed my plans back on me again. $667 I have my Diners Club bill coming due in exactly a month, and I’m looking at a $1,000 balance that needs to be cleared, followed by another $1,000 in two months, all without any extra interest kicking in. I decided against opting for that credit moratorium option since I really didn't want to deal with those pesky added fees. At this point, I think the best thing to do is just take this as a lesson learned and try to be a bit more disciplined across the board.

So, what's the play here? Think I could pull in some extra cash over the summer
to chip away at this debt

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