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People who just have "that certain something" and magnetic energy

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Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#41 ·
Yeah, true. And honestly, the more experience you stack up, the more times you might get shut down. But hey, at the end of the day, there are always people out there who decide to say yes, right?
Daniel Palmer36 Daniel Palmer36 Member
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#42 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:Yeah, true. And honestly, the more experience you stack up, the more times you might get shut down. But hey, at the end of the day, there are always people out there who decide to say yes, right?

Of course there are! The only thing that really matters is that we don't spiral into some sort of deep depression or total despair—like I did, for instance. That state of mind is absolutely wretched. But, as you can see, I haven't lost hope yet. I share your conviction: somewhere out there, someone is looking for us. Someone, or something, is waiting.👍
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#43 ·
Sure, there’s a really fine line between feeling down and actually being happy. Sometimes it's just little things that get under your skin. Other times? You could have someone snap at you or say something pretty rude, but if you're already in a great headspace, it doesn't even register as an insult. It just slides right off.

Still, I can't help but feel like it's a bit unfair. Why do we only get one shot at this life? And why does it feel like people—whether they're big corporations or just neighbors on your block—always remember the mistakes way longer than they remember the good stuff?
Daniel Palmer36 Daniel Palmer36 Member
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#44 ·
Carl Rivera43: Is there any logic left in this discourse? I find myself staring at these threads, wondering if anyone actually processes the information presented, or if we are simply shouting into a void. It is exhausting. I was reading a report earlier—nothing substantial, just some fluff from a major firm like Goldman Sachs—and it struck me how much our current conversation mirrors that level of superficiality. We discuss policy as if it were a game of checkers when it is clearly high-stakes chess. Are we even playing the same game? Daniel Palmer36 seems to think otherwise. He maintains this posture of certainty that I find frankly baffling. How can one be so sure of such flimsy premises? It is quite remarkable, really. One must wonder if such confidence is a shield for ignorance or merely a lack of foresight. We need more rigor. Less noise. More substance. Is that too much to ask?
Carl Rivera43 said:Sure, there’s a really fine line between feeling down and actually being happy. Sometimes it's just little things that get under your skin. Other times? You could have someone snap at you or say something pretty rude, but if you're already in a great headspace, it doesn't even register as an insult. It just slides right off.

Still, I can't help but feel like it's a bit unfair. Why do we only get one shot at this life? And why does it feel like people—whether they're big corporations or just neighbors on your block—always remember the mistakes way longer than they remember the good stuff?

Truth be told, I find myself in agreement with you. But isn't this merely further evidence that perfection is an illusion? We aren't all cut from the same cloth, are we? And frankly, why should we be? The sooner we accept this fundamental reality, the better off we will be. It would certainly make the process of identifying and connecting with those who actually share our sensibilities much more efficient. Wouldn't it? 😉

Sometimes I find myself thinking that I was born in the wrong era entirely. A different time altogether. But honestly? Who cares. There’s no turning back the clock, is there? We can only push forward. And since we only get one shot at this life, why not attempt to structure it in a way that actually works for me? To make it better? To squeeze out as much enjoyment as possible? Even if things don't always go according to plan—and let's face it, they rarely do—I refuse to lose hope. 🙂
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#45 ·
Yeah, as long as there’s even a glimmer of hope, you’ve got a reason to keep hunting for a better way to live.

The absolute worst path you could take would be just saying, "I don't care about anything anymore."

But man, some people really do lean into that attitude. Then they start coming up with all these excuses, like being too old or just being broke.
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#46 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:
Yeah, as long as there’s a glimmer of hope, people are gonna keep hunting for better ways to live life.

The absolute worst move is just going, "I don't care about anything."

And honestly? Some people actually say that—then they start making excuses like "we're too old" or "we've got no money," and so on.

I catch myself saying that sometimes too—usually right after I've totally burned out... and there aren't really any excuses, just this scary realization that maybe I *don't* care anymore. Like, I've checked all the boxes, figured out what I need... and I just don't have the energy to be interested in anything. But it's not even about finding a partner; we already found each other. For me, it's just this weird two-month slump every winter.

Then you've got the folks who actually prefer a low-key, stagnant life, but they make up excuses because of social pressure—you know, the whole "we have to be high-energy and obsessed with this amazing life" thing. Maybe they think if they just play along, they'll find someone. Personally? I think if you just accept who you are, the right person will show up regardless.
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#47 ·
Daniel Palmer36 said:Of course there are! The only thing that really matters is that we don't spiral into some sort of deep depression or total despair—like I did, for instance. That state of mind is absolutely wretched. But, as you can see, I haven't lost hope yet. I share your conviction: somewhere out there, someone is looking for us. Someone, or something, is waiting.👍

Look, if you view yourself as someone with actual value—not talking about ego, but real principles—then getting rejected can actually be a win. It's not that you aren't good enough; it just means you weren't compatible, which saves you both a massive amount of heartache down the road.
They pick how they pick, and you should too. Maybe it's time to flip the script and let someone choose *you* for a change? These days, people expect so much from guys—it’s like everyone forgets men have the exact same emotional depth as women.
If this is sending you into a depressive slump, have you considered that the same thing could happen once you actually find "the one," just for a different reason?
I'm not saying depressed people should just "kill" those feelings because it's "polite." I say own it as part of who you are, but learn to manage it. When you get a handle on it—so it's not just an explosion of despair and desperation for affection—you leave a totally different first impression. You won't be faking anything; you'll just be being yourself. 🙂
Sorry if I'm coming on a bit strong here 🕺
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#48 ·
Peter Murphy6 said:I catch myself saying that sometimes too—usually right after I've totally burned out... and there aren't really any excuses, just this scary realization that maybe I *don't* care anymore. Like, I've checked all the boxes, figured out what I need... and I just don't have the energy to be interested in anything. But it's not even about finding a partner; we already found each other. For me, it's just this weird two-month slump every winter.

Then you've got the folks who actually prefer a low-key, stagnant life, but they make up excuses because of social pressure—you know, the whole "we have to be high-energy and obsessed with this amazing life" thing. Maybe they think if they just play along, they'll find someone. Personally? I think if you just accept who you are, the right person will show up regardless.

Yeah, it happens. Sometimes we spend so much time mourning what we lack that we completely forget to appreciate what's right in front of us. And honestly? It feels like that winter stretch, especially right after the holidays, just feels a bit more dull, both locally and globally, compared to the rest of the year.

I mean, let's be real: it's kind of bizarre to force positivity when the roses aren't even blooming and you're genuinely feeling down.

There is definitely something to that late fall and winter vibe, though. You grind through the work week, and then the weekend rolls around—sometimes feeling a little melancholy, sometimes feeling like it drags on forever compared to the weekdays.
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#49 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:Yeah, it happens. Sometimes we spend so much time mourning what we lack that we completely forget to appreciate what's right in front of us. And honestly? It feels like that winter stretch, especially right after the holidays, just feels a bit more dull, both locally and globally, compared to the rest of the year.

I mean, let's be real: it's kind of bizarre to force positivity when the roses aren't even blooming and you're genuinely feeling down.

There is definitely something to that late fall and winter vibe, though. You grind through the work week, and then the weekend rolls around—sometimes feeling a little melancholy, sometimes feeling like it drags on forever compared to the weekdays.

Personally? I don't regret anything. If there's something I want that I don't have—I go out and get it. Sure, sometimes I need a reminder to appreciate the awesome stuff I already have in my life. But my struggle isn't about finding motivation from the people I love or the things I own... it's about finding it within myself. How do you live purely for yourself if you're trying to lead a "morally upright" life? Because when you don't have anyone you care about, being selfish seems a lot easier. That's the real question for me: how do I live for myself while still loving the people around me and not stepping on them? I've been alone before, but not long enough to really know what living truly solo feels like.

Winter just crushes me because the workload drops off, leaving me with way too much time to be alone with my own thoughts—all those things I've been pushing aside for months suddenly come rushing back. This winter hit me harder than ever... but I think I've finally managed to accept that part of myself. You have to deal with it—you've got to push that darker side out. The trouble starts when that depression or anxiety becomes someone's whole identity.
I gotta tell you, though—sometimes I actually lean into that moody autumn and melancholic winter vibe.

When someone tries to fake happiness instead of just sitting with what they're feeling, they’re basically overloading their brain and causing a massive backlash. In those cases, forcing it is a disaster. You end up feeling guilty just for not being happy. I think way too many people tell themselves "I *have* to be happy" instead of asking, "Why am I not happy?"
Daniel Palmer36 Daniel Palmer36 Member
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#50 ·
Peter Murphy6 said:Personally? I don't regret anything. If there's something I want that I don't have—I go out and get it. Sure, sometimes I need a reminder to appreciate the awesome stuff I already have in my life. But my struggle isn't about finding motivation from the people I love or the things I own... it's about finding it within myself. How do you live purely for yourself if you're trying to lead a "morally upright" life? Because when you don't have anyone you care about, being selfish seems a lot easier. That's the real question for me: how do I live for myself while still loving the people around me and not stepping on them? I've been alone before, but not long enough to really know what living truly solo feels like.

Winter just crushes me because the workload drops off, leaving me with way too much time to be alone with my own thoughts—all those things I've been pushing aside for months suddenly come rushing back. This winter hit me harder than ever... but I think I've finally managed to accept that part of myself. You have to deal with it—you've got to push that darker side out. The trouble starts when that depression or anxiety becomes someone's whole identity.
I gotta tell you, though—sometimes I actually lean into that moody autumn and melancholic winter vibe.

When someone tries to fake happiness instead of just sitting with what they're feeling, they’re basically overloading their brain and causing a massive backlash. In those cases, forcing it is a disaster. You end up feeling guilty just for not being happy. I think way too many people tell themselves "I *have* to be happy" instead of asking, "Why am I not happy?"

I found myself in this exact position, and you articulated it beautifully 🙂 ... but what happens when, for example, I am content with everything in my life, yet utterly miserable regarding the one thing that is missing?🤔 🕺
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#51 ·
Peter Murphy6 said:Personally? I don't regret anything. If there's something I want that I don't have—I go out and get it. Sure, sometimes I need a reminder to appreciate the awesome stuff I already have in my life. But my struggle isn't about finding motivation from the people I love or the things I own... it's about finding it within myself. How do you live purely for yourself if you're trying to lead a "morally upright" life? Because when you don't have anyone you care about, being selfish seems a lot easier. That's the real question for me: how do I live for myself while still loving the people around me and not stepping on them? I've been alone before, but not long enough to really know what living truly solo feels like.

Winter just crushes me because the workload drops off, leaving me with way too much time to be alone with my own thoughts—all those things I've been pushing aside for months suddenly come rushing back. This winter hit me harder than ever... but I think I've finally managed to accept that part of myself. You have to deal with it—you've got to push that darker side out. The trouble starts when that depression or anxiety becomes someone's whole identity.
I gotta tell you, though—sometimes I actually lean into that moody autumn and melancholic winter vibe.

When someone tries to fake happiness instead of just sitting with what they're feeling, they’re basically overloading their brain and causing a massive backlash. In those cases, forcing it is a disaster. You end up feeling guilty just for not being happy. I think way too many people tell themselves "I *have* to be happy" instead of asking, "Why am I not happy?"

I honestly can't imagine not having anyone to love, and I definitely don't want to be shamelessly selfish, even if that seems like the easy way out. It gets tough, though, especially when you face constant rejection—when it feels like your heart is giving way more than it's receiving.

Maybe taking the honest, uphill path, as grueling as it may be, is actually where you find the strength needed to handle whatever life throws at you next.

At the end of the day, I can look back on certain moments with actual pride. I can even smile when telling stories about those few jobs where I did trial runs for a couple of days—times when I was *this* close to getting hired. Even if I didn't get the job, I gained experience, and that helped me feel better about myself and my place in the world. I didn't make lifelong friends during those trials, but at a recent gig I held for about three months, I met some genuinely kind people, including two really great girlfriends. And hey, I started a new job about a month ago! It took me a few weeks to find my groove, but over the last few days, I've finally hit that sweet spot of being relaxed yet super productive.

As for that forced happiness thing? Yeah, it’s awkward. Sometimes it becomes a habit, and other times it's just a temporary phase. Just like a suit doesn't define a man, optimism doesn't define a person either. Sometimes optimism acts as a shield against things we aren't ready to face yet. Still, to me, optimism feels like a much more logical way to live than pessimism, even if it can be a bit misleading sometimes.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#52 ·
Daniel Palmer36 said:I found myself in this exact position, and you articulated it beautifully 🙂 ... but what happens when, for example, I am content with everything in my life, yet utterly miserable regarding the one thing that is missing?🤔 🕺

Well, then you aren't happy with *everything*. And honestly, why does that one little thing have to be such a huge deal?
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#53 ·
Daniel Palmer36 said:I found myself in this exact position, and you articulated it beautifully 🙂 ... but what happens when, for example, I am content with everything in my life, yet utterly miserable regarding the one thing that is missing?🤔 🕺

Thanks 🙂 Though I am sorry you're feeling that way...
Have you actually pinpointed that missing piece yet? Like, have you dug into the WHY behind it? Is it "just" about finding a partner?
Do you even know exactly what you're looking for?
For me, it was pure luck—well, mostly. I wanted something so badly that everything just seemed to align to make it happen. Of course, I wasn't just sitting on my couch waiting; I actually made moves to get it. In my case, it was all about my career.

In your situation, honestly? It feels like the best move is to sort things out internally first—accept who you are, what you want, and what you already have. Just get to know yourself. To me, "persistence" here shouldn't mean constantly going out and hitting walls of rejection—that feels more like trying to force happiness. What I see is this: if you’re truly content being alone, even without a woman by your side, she’ll show up. There won't be any rejection, and you won't feel forced into those typical social roles. Everything will just be crystal clear. Maybe it's just not your time yet?

Look, you can't be fully happy if something vital is missing—you might be relatively satisfied, sure, but true happiness is the sum of ALL those pieces coming together. You can't force it.
From your posts, I actually get a sense of peace from you, even if you don't see it yourself. I think you'll get what you're after, but maybe you just need to be a little more patient with yourself. And not just because there's someone out there for everyone, but because there is specifically someone out there FOR YOU.
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#54 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:I honestly can't imagine not having anyone to love, and I definitely don't want to be shamelessly selfish, even if that seems like the easy way out. It gets tough, though, especially when you face constant rejection—when it feels like your heart is giving way more than it's receiving.

Maybe taking the honest, uphill path, as grueling as it may be, is actually where you find the strength needed to handle whatever life throws at you next.

At the end of the day, I can look back on certain moments with actual pride. I can even smile when telling stories about those few jobs where I did trial runs for a couple of days—times when I was *this* close to getting hired. Even if I didn't get the job, I gained experience, and that helped me feel better about myself and my place in the world. I didn't make lifelong friends during those trials, but at a recent gig I held for about three months, I met some genuinely kind people, including two really great girlfriends. And hey, I started a new job about a month ago! It took me a few weeks to find my groove, but over the last few days, I've finally hit that sweet spot of being relaxed yet super productive.

As for that forced happiness thing? Yeah, it’s awkward. Sometimes it becomes a habit, and other times it's just a temporary phase. Just like a suit doesn't define a man, optimism doesn't define a person either. Sometimes optimism acts as a shield against things we aren't ready to face yet. Still, to me, optimism feels like a much more logical way to live than pessimism, even if it can be a bit misleading sometimes.

Honestly, it's hard for me to even picture life without love. But I've "heard" it said that you don't live for anyone else but yourself—so I'm still out here trying to find that thing, you know? For myself. I agree, the "honest" path is definitely tougher, depending on how you look at it. Personally, I see it as the only way worth taking because, hey, I actually want to learn something from this life—you don't learn anything from the easy route. But then again, if I didn't have anyone by my side, how much would I really be willing to push through that "enriching" journey? I could say, "Yeah, obviously," since it's the only path I see—but I don't know. If I didn't know what love was, I wouldn't even know which other paths existed or how deep I'd go trying to understand them.

I’ll carry every single job I’ve ever had—even the temporary ones—with absolute pride. It's all just experience, right? Little pieces of a puzzle that help build who you are. For example, I've been through hundreds of interviews. And what did I learn? As long as I'm acting out of fear and basically begging for any job that comes my way... things won't work out. Once I stand my ground—like, "Hey, you're getting a win by hiring me because I'm a great worker"—and I own that value... jobs just magically fall into my lap. That goes for everything I want in life, too. I go after it.

For me, neither pure optimism nor total pessimism is the answer—it's realism. I choose the realistic solution. It's just as real (depending on the situation, of course) that the outcome might suck as it might be great. Blind optimism shuts your eyes just as much as pure pessimism does. I think optimism is only useful in the actual moment of action, but when it comes to the prep work leading up to it, I stick to realism. Pessimism? That's just a defense mechanism—fear of fear, fear of pain. It's a refusal to accept reality. And being aware of the downsides? That definitely doesn't count as being a pessimist.
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#55 ·
You can't truly be happy if you're constantly feeling like something is missing. You might feel okay, sure, but real happiness? That’s the whole package—it’s when everything clicks at once.

Wait, did you really say *everything*?
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#56 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:
You can't truly be happy if you're missing even one piece—you might feel okay, but real happiness is the total package, everything coming together at once.

Wait, seriously? Every single thing?

Yeah, I mean the things that actually matter to *you*. Like, personally.
I've got a job I love, a partner I adore (and we get along great, by the way), and my family life is basically something people would be jealous of. But... if I don't have that creative spark—that drive to pick up a brush and paint something, which is huge for me—then I'm just not happy. I might be satisfied, sure, but without that specific part of myself, the happiness isn't there. It's about all those individual pieces clicking.
My "everything" isn't the same as yours. For some folks, just having a roof over their head is enough—and even when they lose it, they might try to convince themselves they're still happy, but they're really just settling for being content.
Happiness is an ideal—kind of a one-sided one, too.
And obviously, it all depends on what you value. Personally? I don't do compromises when it comes to this stuff.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#57 ·
Yeah, I feel like happiness and satisfaction are basically two sides of the same coin. To be honest, I haven't felt truly happy in quite a while, though I’d say I'm doing pretty well on the satisfaction front.

But then there's this thing called "half-happiness." If everything is just halfway there, it’s still just halfway, right? You’ve got to actually put in the work to push it past that middle ground.

I mean, I catch myself constantly obsessing over those motivational quotes. Sometimes I even try to live my life by them! But, let’s face it—between my habit of procrastinating way too much and some old, bad habits I can't seem to shake, I end up making way too many excuses {and then I just stop listening to my heart.}
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#58 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:
Yeah, luck and happiness are basically cousins—I’ve realized I haven't felt truly happy in a minute, though I’m doing alright on the satisfaction front.

So, "half-happiness" is where I'm at. Everything's just halfway there, you know? You gotta actually do something to push it past that midpoint.

Man, I fall for those motivational quotes all the time—sometimes I even try to live by them—but because of my habit of procrastinating and some old bad patterns, I end up making way too many excuses {and then I stop listening to my gut.}

Honestly, those motivational quotes drive me nuts sometimes, especially during those two months when my anxiety hits deep. Like, wtf, you guys make it sound so simple, right? Newsflash: IT'S NOT.
Technically it is, but when I'm feeling like that, I just build up this massive resistance... mostly because I'm actually clinging to my old patterns. That's why the excuses happen—it's scary to actually face the truth.
I can't stand those lines like, "Oh, being sad is easy, just be strong enough to be happy"... because honestly, it's easy to live in whatever illusion you choose to believe in. For some people, a mere illusion of happiness simply doesn't cut it.
How exactly do you think you aren't listening to your heart?
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#59 ·
And honestly, it’s not exactly straightforward because of those patterns we see. On one hand, I feel like so much of life is just destiny playing out, but then again, isn't there also this chance for us to actually shape our own paths?

Sometimes I don't listen to my heart because, let's face it, the heart doesn't really think. It just loves unconditionally. But my head? My head tells me that unconditional love is way too risky, especially when you aren't getting that same energy back.
Peter Murphy6 Peter Murphy6 Active Member
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#60 ·
We could probably spiral into a whole debate about whether unconditional love is even possible in the long run.

Yeah, look—the heart feels things, but the brain calculates the risks. That’s why you need both working in sync. To me, ignoring your gut just to play it safe with logic feels like a lack of self-trust—like you're scared you won't make the right call and end up getting hurt. Personally, I see every decision as a building block; whether it builds you up or tears you down is totally up to you. It’s easy for me to look at it that way because I’ve always been a high roller—maybe even too much for some people's liking.

Sorry, but I don't really buy into the idea of unrequited love, mostly because I don't think unconditional love exists (long-term) anyway. To me, unrequited love is just a lack of self-love in that moment when you realize they don't feel the same, yet you still cling to those feelings.

Fate? Man, I think it's fifty-fifty. Fate hands you the cards, but you're the one playing them. Sometimes you don't wait for fate to knock—you just go out and grab what you want. I think we build our own character and how we face life, while fate is more like a "guidebook" to help make sense of everything. The ratio of "good" to "bad" stuff is pretty much equal, but we get to decide which side we prioritize.
That kind of balance—plus trusting yourself (which leads to loving yourself)—is what makes someone truly magnetic.

For me, it’s an on-and-off thing. One minute I feel totally at peace, like I trust myself and anything is possible... then the next, I’m hit with how vulnerable and uncertain everything actually feels in this world. To fight that fear, I try to be as open as I can—as long as the other person doesn't see it as a threat. Some might see that as a risk, but for me, it's my defense mechanism—the more I give, the more at peace I am, knowing I can handle the fallout if it all goes south. My best hack? Stop expecting anything from anyone. No expectations, no disappointments.
For example—I don't expect you to reply to this just because "it's the polite thing to do" or because I would have done it. So, if you decide to ghost, there's zero disappointment on my end.
Stopping the habit of measuring everyone else by your own standards is tough. But if you pull it off, it opens up a whole new level of personal growth.

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