On Being and its components

I’d say I’m mostly in agreement here—everything truly happens in its own time. You can't force a moment or skip steps... there really isn't such a thing as "wrong" action when you're simply acting in alignment with the current state of your being. Even if you wish things were different, at any given moment, things just are the way they are—it is what it is, as they say in those movies...

That said, I wouldn't go so far as to say we are all Gods, even though we all carry God and the divine within us—whether that's consciously realized or just lying dormant. But what is dying isn't God. It's us who are dying.

Betty Ramos said:I’d say I’m mostly in agreement here—everything truly happens in its own time. You can't force a moment or skip steps... there really isn't such a thing as "wrong" action when you're simply acting in alignment with the current state of your being. Even if you wish things were different, at any given moment, things just are the way they are—it is what it is, as they say in those movies...

That said, I wouldn't go so far as to say we are all Gods, even though we all carry God and the divine within us—whether that's consciously realized or just lying dormant. But what is dying isn't God. It's us who are dying.

It’s only the physical body—the anchor for the ego-mind—that passes away. That ego-mind just keeps moving, reshaping itself into a new vessel, desperately trying to shake off its old baggage through whatever new experiences come its way.

A person is only as much of a god as God is a person. All our physical forms are just shadows of God; they aren't the reality itself.

These are all just theories—if we assume you only truly know what you experience firsthand, then we won't actually know anything until we pass away, whether during Life or afterward (and if we cease to exist entirely, well, then there's no knowing at all)... so personally, I don't claim to know. That said, my own experiences and perspective so far seem to align with the theories regarding the death of the ego. What remains is the "soul"—or whatever term people prefer to use—now enriched by all those experiences gained through the ego during our physical existence. It continues its journey if it hasn't yet achieved "realization," "resurrection," or "liberation or enlightenment."
But again, I’m just saying these are merely theories; as of right now, I only know that I know (almost) nothing.

Betty Ramos said:These are all just theories—if we assume you only truly know what you experience firsthand, then we won't actually know anything until we pass away, whether during Life or afterward (and if we cease to exist entirely, well, then there's no knowing at all)... so personally, I don't claim to know. That said, my own experiences and perspective so far seem to align with the theories regarding the death of the ego. What remains is the "soul"—or whatever term people prefer to use—now enriched by all those experiences gained through the ego during our physical existence. It continues its journey if it hasn't yet achieved "realization," "resurrection," or "liberation or enlightenment."
But again, I’m just saying these are merely theories; as of right now, I only know that I know (almost) nothing.

Let's call it dying, or rather, the part that is illusory falls apart. More specifically, after physical death, the aura and the body disintegrate while a specific portion of energy—the carrier of consciousness (and all its impressions) within the aura—forms into a charge or a field. This field represents the consciousness of the limited ego, and it continues its journey toward cosmic refuges. However, by its very nature, it eventually dissolves after a certain amount of time; it doesn't happen immediately after physical death, but that consciousness lives in that form for quite a while.

Even though this is the theoretical side, what speaks to my actual experience is having a living contact with ghosts—with the consciousness of deceased people. Most fittingly, I had a very strange and fascinating encounter in a "physical" sense with a long-time friend of mine who passed away, where I felt his presence and had some kind of ability to help him in one way or another.

On the other hand, it is clear to me that I have died and been reborn hundreds of times across different continents, just as much as this current experience. The difference is that it wasn't that "consciousness field" (in other words, a little cloud of white bioenergy acting as an energy field), but rather all the impressions contained within my mature glowing body (what some call the "Higher Self"). That isn't just a part of us; in a sense, it *is* us. This mature glowing body is visible in a sub-normal sense; everyone possesses one. It is our closest spiritual energy, actually an energetic structure composed of several types of noble energies—it is super-intelligent.

As a person's aura develops, they also develop a so-called Yellow Core. This is like the noble energy that makes up the mature glowing body, and as the aura matures, that energy matures as well. At a certain point in development, a Second Light Body forms from this Yellow Core. This is the "sharir," the "body," or the energetic form with which our fragile white bioenergy merges during the process of liberation or enlightenment.

Once both of these structures have matured (the first Light Body guided all our previous lives, while the second Light Body is created during our current life through high spiritual development), then the unified human consciousness matures. At that point, after death, there is no more "leaving" or temporary existence as a little cloud in some cosmic refuge; instead, it becomes an eternal structure within the framework of the mature glowing body.

So, we're all just "silent" gods.

I used to read quite a bit myself, though I’m not one for heavy speculation—I honestly believe Truth is pretty straightforward. If I were to sit down and write out my current perspective right now, it would go something like this...

In my view, there is black and white—not those fifty boring shades of gray or all those distracting colors. And look, "black" doesn't imply something bad if you look at it that way—it's easier to just call them the impermanent and the impermanent. Or, you could say there is Light, and then everything else that merely mimics that Light. The impermanent and the impermanent exist together and permeate one another, yet they don't mix. Even though they are here. Right now. I count the physical world as impermanent, along with that "afterlife" state where the ego-personality fades away after the physical body dies. It’s all impermanent. It's me, and it's less of me. One cannot become the other. You see, the black cannot ascend and "whiten" itself enough to become the White. It can turn light gray, and it can refine its garment—if it simply allows the White to "work" and doesn't get in the way... but there is no upward growth beyond a certain point. There is a ceiling to the impermanent world that cannot be crossed. To cross it, it isn't the individual who moves, but the White—which can only "diminish" and "reveal" everything that is not of Him. Because in the end, it is the White who "resurrects." Consciousness is what looks itself in the face. Impermanent within Impermanent.
As for how the current personality feels when that happens—what remains of it, or how much of it gets "integrated" if it integrates into the Impermanent—well, I don't know, nor do I care to speculate...

Right... we were discussing who actually dies and who doesn't, so since I'm already speculating, I might as well keep going.
So, in this context... our personality—basically "us"—is impermanent. Our entire being consists of parts that die within the visible, temporary world, and other parts that pass away in the so-called afterlife—which is also temporary. But we "possess" an Impermanent part that seeks to realize itself through us—it "travels" from incarnation to incarnation until it finally "awakens" via the temporary. It isn't actually "us," though we can certainly catch glimpses of it if it begins to awaken through our very existence.

Fine.

Actually, I'm curious...

The impermanent part that seeks to 'realize' itself through us, 'traveling' from incarnation to incarnation until it 'awakens' via the impermanent. And that isn't us even though we can catch glimpses of Him if He awakens through and by means of us.

You know what I can't wrap my head around? That bolded part. This separation between "Him" and "us." Impermanence versus the impermanent. Does anything actually travel? Or is it just the form of the impermanent changing, manifesting as impermanence? Or is the impermanent merely the consequence of many instances of impermanence?

Or... if impermanence and the impermanent are inseparable—meaning one cannot maintain its system without the absence of the other, or rather, nothing can manifest as the impermanent without impermanence existing—then are the two simply ONE?

.. and if they are one.. then they are the same?

Hey there, person with the great username 🙂,
Everything is the same—yet it isn't quite the same until you actually identify with it.
All is One, but it doesn't truly become One until that oneness is realized.
Everything exists and doesn't exist... all at once.
But, but, but...
I just remembered something... the fact that I actually know nothing at all 🙂
(except that everything is constantly shifting and that it's good to plant oneself firmly)
So, all this we're saying? It’s just talk.
It might be better to just quote Narnia, for example 🙂
Because for truth lies in Life, not in mere words.
Sometimes, the only thing that matters is what stays hidden between the words.

A very solid response.

Truly... It’s all the same. What we know and what we don't. What we do and what we don't— it’s all completely irrelevant!

Betty Ramos said:I find myself wondering... is there actually a decision involved here? A sort of human "consent" to enter into Knowledge? We all talk about liberation or enlightenment, but (assuming such a thing exists) the question is how many people right now—here in this room—would uncompromisingly agree, no matter the cost, to "surrender" to it all. If they even had the choice, of course. It seems to me that most of us, as long as life is good and we're doing alright, just enjoy our little illusion—we read the books, we daydream... we'd love actual liberation or enlightenment, sure, but maybe tomorrow, or next year, or some fine day down the road. Then, I get the impression, the system collapses, the illusion loses its vibrant colors or completely dissolves to reveal its true illusory face, just so we might finally turn back to the self... and if we don't turn back, the cycle just repeats. Is there any mention of a consent, a surrender, a conscious "Thy will be done"—something truly decisive? Or does it all just happen on its own? Does "Consciousness" shape a decision, deciding to wake up, and then the person wakes up—willingly or not—pouring themselves into trust until they seemingly, voluntarily, "consent"? Or perhaps they never truly consent at all? Or maybe there is neither a decision nor a person 🙂?

Let’s break down these concepts and their actual functions—their "roles": 🙂

Consciousness. It doesn't make any decisions. Consciousness is just the confirmation that EVERYTHING IS. Who is doing the confirming, and to whom? A being—Existence itself—confirms that it IS everything, absolutely everything, that it is the absolute. So, the Being confirms to the self that it IS ALL, which means the words we projected from the spirit (from knowledge-of-self) into the intellect are just saying there is something (knowledge-of-self) through which the Being confirms to the self what, how, and that it IS. Consciousness isn't deciding anything here. It’s simpler: CONSCIOUSNESS = the confirmation (EVERYTHING IS). The one actually doing the acting and making the calls is the Absolute-Being. Being stands above knowledge-of-all-that-is, and because of that knowledge, it can actually use its potential... CONSCIOUSLY.

Man.It doesn't have any power. A person is just a projection of the soul through the mind-body connection, creating this psycho-physical entity. Its manifestation is experienced through its own reflection—in the spirit of creation where the Absolute-Being experiences self as something shifting, something in constant motion. Think of it like this: a human is just an image projected onto a movie screen. The Being is everything else—the director, the set designer, the screenwriter, and the producer all rolled into one. It dictates every single movement on that screen, whether it’s doing so with full awareness of self or acting unconsciously. The unconscious part kicks in because of how easily we identify with things, centering our will and attention on the wrong spots. If the Being's entire focus is locked onto that specific entity, then the Being starts to believe it *is* that entity. Because of that identification, it loses its divine qualities and settles for whatever traits were drilled into it through experience and conditioning.

So, here’s the reality: we don't actually hold any power. We're just along for the ride while an Absolute-Being recreates us in every single moment, constantly reshaping and directing the flow. In this setup, we're essentially nothing more than the lead actor—the central subject in a play staged by that Being.

So, a person doesn't really get a vote in any of this. No one asks for our input. We just end up becoming exactly what the Being projects us to be for its own sake. In the act of positive affirmation, the human being essentially agrees to drop their own ego and identity. It’s about having total, unwavering trust in the self—to surrender everything to the Self-God, the one who truly is. That's the only way liberation or enlightenment actually happens. It occurs when all those frantic attempts to control the direction of Life are traded in for complete, unconditional surrender.

Betty Ramos said:Hey there, person with the great username 🙂,
Everything is the same—yet it isn't quite the same until you actually identify with it.
All is One, but it doesn't truly become One until that oneness is realized.
Everything exists and doesn't exist... all at once.
But, but, but...
I just remembered something... the fact that I actually know nothing at all 🙂
(except that everything is constantly shifting and that it's good to plant oneself firmly)
So, all this we're saying? It’s just talk.
It might be better to just quote Narnia, for example 🙂
Because for truth lies in Life, not in mere words.
Sometimes, the only thing that matters is what stays hidden between the words.

'Everything' keeps shifting, except for the one thing that doesn't: the absolute, the Being... the 'I AM', the 'YOU WHO YOU ARE'.

That entity creates the reality of change, for self. That entity (Being) witnesses the existence of that change. Change doesn't touch the Being, its existence, or the witness, even if it alters how that witness perceives what's happening.

And who exactly is attempting to open up to unconditional Love? It’s a being that has grown tired of the experience of conditional closedness and fear—seeking instead an unconditional openness and Love. Through a "tormented" person who isn't even asked for their input, yet is somehow expected to just surrender to it all—whether it happens or not... 🙂

Betty Ramos said:And who exactly is attempting to open up to unconditional Love? It’s a being that has grown tired of the experience of conditional closedness and fear—seeking instead an unconditional openness and Love. Through a "tormented" person who isn't even asked for their input, yet is somehow expected to just surrender to it all—whether it happens or not... 🙂

A being is just a creation.
A BEING IS NOT GOD.
Poor little being doesn't even realize what they're actually made of...

ALL GLORY TO OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!!

Jesse Price5 said:A being is just a creation.
A BEING IS NOT GOD.
Poor little being doesn't even realize what they're actually made of...

ALL GLORY TO OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!!

God isn't a creature, and a creature isn't God.
Furthermore, God isn't a being, nor is a being some kind of creature.

Being is both God and creature... it is absolute.

Peter Phillips32 said:Honestly, shouldn't these kinds of autistic monologues belong on some niche PDF file or a personal blog instead of here?

You could swap out "Sigmund" for any other random guy on this forum, and change "he's just obsessed with the history of philosophy" to whatever that guy's specific argument happens to be, because apparently, this user's word is basically the Word of God.

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Matthew Evans said:That outcome depends entirely on the consciousness level of the individual. And you can't reach that level in pairs; it’s something you have to navigate through the self. Sure, you gain "world" experience through various insights, and those insights happen through the interaction between the subject and the object. That's basic mechanics. But no matter how many insights you collect or how wide your awareness stretches, nothing changes in how individuals treat one another until the personal level of Consciousness shifts upward toward the Higher.

Wars will vanish only when consciousness rises to a point where every single being within the collective knows, instinctively, that harmony can only be achieved through cooperation and empathy with the rest of the whole.

It wasn't like everyone was a barbarian two thousand years ago. Humanity goes through cycles of rising and falling based on its level of consciousness. The only real difference between then and now is the technology; our level of consciousness is essentially the same as it was two millennia ago—if anything, it might actually be lower right now. Even today, just like back then, there are a few individuals operating at a higher consciousness while everyone else is still fumbling around in the dark looking for "harmony." The weapons have certainly become more lethal, but the reasons we use them haven't changed one bit.

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There is no such thing as being or non-being.
Any attempt to state a thesis can only stem from the perspective of I am, which is actually a massive danger—both for the person stating it and for anyone who accepts it. It’s the consciousness of the Borg or a collective consciousness (you could look at the series or one of the movies in the Star Trek cycle to see what I mean): if that ever truly takes hold here in America, just know that Satan has taken complete control.
As long as wars continue—whether today or in the future—as a sort of pointless spiritual competition, humanity is actually staying on the right path.
Talking about I am is just the talk of some self-proclaimed, unfulfilled guru who needs a flock to feed his imperfect ego. He doesn't quite grasp that things simply happen or they don't; you don't "plan" your way into them.
(You should check out what the anti-guru Jiddu Krishnamurti and the leader of the Cypriot Essenes, Stilianos Atešlis Daskalos, have to say about this. Once wars subside, human civilization faces a much more serious spiritual struggle. Both he and I are just tiny players in the grand scheme: I mean, I'm talking about ideals here, though in the near future, there will likely still be all sorts of spiritual schools competing with each other, just like today. But the hardest and most beautiful work is clearing the jungle in front of yourself individually—that’s the only real way out for a human, as Osho pointed out...).
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Benjamin Taylor6 said:This feels strangely familiar to me—it’s like déjà vu, honestly. I’ve been sitting here, staring at my screen, trying to make sense of this whole mess—this endless cycle of people talking past one another—and honestly, it just makes me want to walk away from the keyboard entirely. It feels like we're all circling the same drain. Look, I’m not trying to be difficult, but when you look at the way certain individuals approach these deep truths, it’s almost painful to witness. There’s this persistent tendency to strip away the actual weight of things, to turn profound concepts into nothing more than shallow, digestible bits of trivia. It’s lazy. It’s fundamentally lazy. Take what Matthew Evans was saying earlier—if you can even call it that—and compare it to the actual substance required for true Self-knowledge. You can't just skim the surface of the universe and expect to find the core of your own being. It doesn't work that way. It’s like trying to understand the entire American legal system by reading a bumper sticker; you aren't getting anywhere near the essence of the matter. And don't get me started on the constant misinterpretations of historical figures. People love to drag names through the mud or twist their intentions to fit some modern, flimsy narrative. It’s exhausting. We have these massive, complex ideas—concepts that touch on the very nature of the I-man and his relationship to the Self-absolute—and yet, we treat them like they’re just items on a grocery list. I remember back when I was first diving into these heavier texts—really digging into the stuff that actually challenges your worldview—I felt this immense frustration because everyone around me seemed content with the superficial. They wanted the comfort of easy answers, whereas I was looking for the grit, the struggle, the actual judgment of one's own soul. We need to stop this trend of intellectual dilution. If we are going to discuss the nature of the Being-that-is or the complexities of the unconsciousness, we have to do it with some level of respect for the depth involved. Otherwise, we're just shouting into a void, wasting our breath on a debate that has no foundation. It’s just noise. Pure, unadulterated noise.
It’s not just happening at some local dive bar, either—it’s happening right out in my own backyard. Usually happens late at night, too. And we aren't talking about a casual cup of coffee here; it’s more like a glass of whiskey and a Coke—and, of course, a Black Devil cigarette. 😁

I’ve never really felt that spark—that sudden, driving urge to actually sit down and put pen to paper. Writing just isn't my thing. But I have definitely experienced a different kind of stimulus—more like these sudden, intense bouts of physical twitching—that makes me want to just writhe around. 😲

Every single story—every poem, really—has always carried its own core message. It’s something that speaks with an unerring clarity about Consciousness itself. And I don't mean my own little personal consciousness—the kind most people mistakenly label as "human consciousness"—but rather Consciousness as the Source of all Knowledge, the ultimate Truth.

It reminds me of the way Aleister Crowley used to scribble away at The Book of Law—just that same raw, unfiltered energy.

So, look—I was going about my preparations with total intention. It wasn't some accidental drift; I was being conscious, deliberate, and purposeful about every single step. But even then, I honestly had no clue what kind of answers or insights I’d end up leaving behind in the process. The whole preparation phase was really just this slow, gradual opening of my spirit toward the spirit of the absolute—almost like a tuning process. I was waiting for that specific moment where I’d finally be ready enough, so that my spirit could simply merge and become one with the spirit of the absolute. Back then, the I-man simply faded from the Being's perception—and in that moment, the I-absolute finally became "visible" to the self. Now, don't get me wrong, people always expect these massive spiritual breakthroughs to happen in some trendy coffee shop or a bustling downtown bistro, but that wasn't my story. I didn't hit enlightenment while sipping a latte at Starbucks; instead, I was just caught off guard right there in my own bed, at home. In the end, it happened—just as a direct result of all the deliberate groundwork I’d been laying down beforehand.

I’m curious, though—how did this sudden "awakening" of yours actually trigger? What was that process like for you, and what was really going on inside your head during the whole thing?
As for me, unfortunately, I haven't quite managed to leap across the abyss yet while practicing my own little routine out in the garden:
I’d fix my gaze on one particularly brilliant star. I’d start visualizing how, 13.5 billion years ago, everything was just a single point. Not just that star, mind you, but the entire universe and the entirety of my own SELF within it. I’d try to perceive myself as the original singularity—the "I." Then, this intense sensation would kick in—something I first encountered back when I was doing those yoga jumps at the local gym. Except, in this case, that core desire for movement—which usually sits at the base of the spine in that technique—would migrate up into my neck and my head. It triggers this violent, churning feeling because I'm desperately trying to mentally leap over the void, but I just... can't.

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Instead of jumping around or preaching about Jesus, anyone can step up because you will know them by their deeds : planting a tree, helping a stranger, being there for someone you love...
Rather than just swinging on a porch swing like Sathya Sai Baba and lecturing everyone about love.
On a global scale, the people who become icons are often just great talkers; there are so few whose actual actions—let alone selfless, unpaid service—leave a lasting legacy behind them.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:By definition, New Age is just contemporary spirituality that hasn't been packaged into a formal religion or a rigid philosophical school.
And that puts you right in that category. Just like it puts this Australian colleague of yours—the one people constantly confuse you with—right in the middle of it:

It’s actually a good thing when two people are saying the same thing, even if their delivery is a bit different.

The real headache, though, is how does one even approach this transcendental knowledge? Some people claim we absolutely need spiritual guides:

But these "guides" often hide their true intentions, much like a snake hides its legs.😁

Sadly, sometimes what shows up isn't a guide at all, but an "anti-spiritual" guide. I suppose those are the ones sent by the late Friedrich Nietzsche:
"If you can't teach someone how to swim, teach them how to sink as fast as possible" :😬

Take my neighbor, a decent guy I knew, for example:

The man was genuinely trying his best to grasp the Supreme Mind—to let it take hold of him. And the poor soul, instead of achieving transcendence of consciousness, ended up getting beaten senseless by people and finishing up in a psychiatric ward.
So, it really makes you wonder: why do certain guides appear to some people without even being summoned? And why do others, despite screamingly loud calls for help, find themselves met by "anti-guides"—people who, instead of offering grace, just rub salt in the wound? 😲 😁 😲

Essentially, a person acts according to this:

But they end up with http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

On a side note, it’s worth mentioning he predicted World War III, and since the date he picked passed a few years ago, he’s stuck in a bit of a loop. Aside from spamming every major university in the States with emails—though he probably didn't bother reaching out to any Ivy League schools because, well, he wouldn't want to face that kind of embarrassment—he hasn't gotten a single response (I assume those institutions actually have people working 😁 inside them). Still, he’s sticking to his guns, convinced he's the only enlightened one left because the date was simply "postponed." It reminds me of that Taoist idea about the balance between being and non-being—maybe there's a little more "being" in his head than reality allows—and now he's got to figure out which side carries more weight if he ever wants to move past this stagnant mindset that's just cluttering up the world.
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Jeremy Brooks6 said:👎
Instead of jumping around or preaching about Jesus, anyone can step up because you will know them by their deeds : planting a tree, helping a stranger, being there for someone you love...
Rather than just swinging on a porch swing like Sathya Sai Baba and lecturing everyone about love.
On a global scale, the people who become icons are often just great talkers; there are so few whose actual actions—let alone selfless, unpaid service—leave a lasting legacy behind them.

😁 That logic is basically like claiming there’s no life in the ocean just because you can't see it from the surface.