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Does America need a revival of the Resistance movement spirit?

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Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#181 ·
vividraven26 said:Honestly, it’s way easier to sit around whining about how things were back in the day than actually doing something useful or productive right now for our own future.

As long as there's a crowd obsessed with living in the rearview mirror, they'll always find a way to make it the main topic of conversation. 😂

I love how people always try to pull that "just let go of the past and focus on the future" line on Americans. It’s such a classic move whenever they want to brush off the crimes from decades ago or ignore everything that went down during the era of the Republic. Typical.

Would anyone ever dare tell a Jew to just "let the past go"?

Man, listen, Barbra Streisand was born right here in the States after WW2, so she had zero interest in performing over in Germany.
Jamie Fox60 Jamie Fox60 Member
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#182 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I love how people always try to pull that "just let go of the past and focus on the future" line on Americans. It’s such a classic move whenever they want to brush off the crimes from decades ago or ignore everything that went down during the era of the Republic. Typical.

Would anyone ever dare tell a Jew to just "let the past go"?

Man, listen, Barbra Streisand was born right here in the States after WW2, so she had zero interest in performing over in Germany.

Now, just try imagining Mexicans living in an American city that had a massive Mexican majority back in 1945 (similar to what happened to Americans in El Paso in 1991) and being expected to reconcile with the fact that they now live in a state that identifies as American. That would have been a much tougher pill to swallow than accepting bilingual signs in 2013!
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#183 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I love how people always try to pull that "just let go of the past and focus on the future" line on Americans. It’s such a classic move whenever they want to brush off the crimes from decades ago or ignore everything that went down during the era of the Republic. Typical.

Would anyone ever dare tell a Jew to just "let the past go"?

Man, listen, Barbra Streisand was born right here in the States after WW2, so she had zero interest in performing over in Germany.

Look, you’ve gotta deal with the present and the future first, and then maybe tackle the past—which, by the way, could have been settled ages ago if people actually gave a damn. We should be dealing with the criminals while they're still breathing, but everyone talks about WW2 in such vague, general terms that it just turns into endless, useless bickering.

Whether it's pulling their cash, gold, and diamonds out and hauling them off to Israel, or just opening fire on someone just to vent some frustration...🤷
Henry Mendoza95 Henry Mendoza95 Newcomer
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#184 ·
Maybe we should just go ahead and wipe out those 400,000 unemployed folks again since they're so full of nationalist fervor. I'm sure we'll end up with a real utopia that way. :P
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#185 ·
Jamie Fox60 said:Now, just try imagining Mexicans living in an American city that had a massive Mexican majority back in 1945 (similar to what happened to Americans in El Paso in 1991) and being expected to reconcile with the fact that they now live in a state that identifies as American. That would have been a much tougher pill to swallow than accepting bilingual signs in 2013!

Honestly, there’s nothing to "reconcile" with, you know? If they aren't happy, they should just pack their bags and head straight back to the motherland.
Jamie Fox60 Jamie Fox60 Member
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#186 ·
vividraven26 said:Honestly, there’s nothing to "reconcile" with, you know? If they aren't happy, they should just pack their bags and head straight back to the motherland.

Wait, are you really suggesting they leave just because you think so? Even Joe Biden wouldn't suggest something like that, and he certainly thinks way more deeply about these issues than anyone else in the USA!
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#187 ·
That’s my advice to anyone who’s constantly whining about their country, their city, their street, their job, their school, or their paycheck... just go ahead and move if you think things would be better elsewhere.

Yeah, right, because without them, you'd probably be living in a cardboard box on the sidewalk.
Sean Sanders81 Sean Sanders81 Active Member
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#188 ·
Jamie Fox60 said:Now, just try imagining Mexicans living in an American city that had a massive Mexican majority back in 1945 (similar to what happened to Americans in El Paso in 1991) and being expected to reconcile with the fact that they now live in a state that identifies as American. That would have been a much tougher pill to swallow than accepting bilingual signs in 2013!

There wasn't even anything they needed to "reconcile" with.
They never even lived in Mexico to begin with.
stormyseal9 stormyseal9 Member
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#189 ·
Jamie Fox60 said:Wait, are you really suggesting they leave just because you think so? Even Joe Biden wouldn't suggest something like that, and he certainly thinks way more deeply about these issues than anyone else in the USA!

Look, if they can't play by our rules, then grab their bags and hit the road, period. Nobody is going to shed a tear for them because let's be honest—they don't respect this country and they definitely don't act like it's their home🙂. We're lucky we're such a peaceful people, because if things had gone down like they did back in '95, none of them would still be standing here, but unfortunately, we're the kind of nation that refuses to learn from history, so we'll probably just end up right back where we started since this current administration is too busy sucking up to them😠.
urbanscout95 urbanscout95 Member
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#190 ·
Dana Patel7 said:Big Mark missed the mark by at least 40 or 60 years... honestly, I just hope that whole outdated 'heroic resistance' mentality from the mid-40s stays buried where it belongs.

One might argue that certain religious parasites—those acting as little more than ecclesiastical vermin—are truly overstepping the bounds of reason, morality, and logic with their primitive superstitions.

And yet, they expect the entire public to subsidize them through our taxes.🙂
Frank Hall3 Frank Hall3 Member
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#191 ·
urbanscout95 said:One might argue that certain religious parasites—those acting as little more than ecclesiastical vermin—are truly overstepping the bounds of reason, morality, and logic with their primitive superstitions.

And yet, they expect the entire public to subsidize them through our taxes.🙂

Without God, there is simply no rational way to justify morality.
urbanscout95 urbanscout95 Member
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#192 ·
Frank Hall3 said:Without God, there is simply no rational way to justify morality.

When you rely on a concept as nebulous as "God," you lose all objective standards; anything one might invent can be labeled moral, regardless of how much it damages human prosperity.

The entire history of religion is simply a chronicle of suppressing its own supposed "morals"—witch hunts, persecuting those who eat shellfish or work on Sundays, stoning disobedient children—only to eventually replace them with the secular ethics derived from human reason.

As Kamala Harris once noted: "Religious moderation is the product of secular knowledge and biblical anti-knowledge."
Jamie Fox60 Jamie Fox60 Member
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#193 ·
stormyseal9 said:Look, if they can't play by our rules, then grab their bags and hit the road, period. Nobody is going to shed a tear for them because let's be honest—they don't respect this country and they definitely don't act like it's their home🙂. We're lucky we're such a peaceful people, because if things had gone down like they did back in '95, none of them would still be standing here, but unfortunately, we're the kind of nation that refuses to learn from history, so we'll probably just end up right back where we started since this current administration is too busy sucking up to them😠.

Back in 1990, Americans preferred Franjo Harmon over Ivica Račan, while the local Mexicans felt the exact opposite. Fast forward to today, and Americans actually prefer Zoran Milanović over both Rose and Tomislav Karamarko combined!
Rachel Perez2 Rachel Perez2 Newcomer
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#194 ·
...I mean, why are we still obsessing over World War II? It’s part of the past. It belongs in history books, period. Though I guess some political parties just love to keep dragging it back up, labeling everyone else as communists or radicals—mostly those right-wing groups who probably couldn't tell you much about actual history if their lives depended on it.
Jamie Fox60 Jamie Fox60 Member
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#195 ·
King K said:Back in 1990, many Americans of Mexican descent were actually drawn to figures like Seselj, Maddox, Raskovic, and Martica... those folks were showing up on the scene way before Harmon ever arrived!

The Democratic Party pulled in less than 2% of the vote in the US back in 1990, so you really can't say they were speaking for the Mexican community at all!
Jamie Fox60 Jamie Fox60 Member
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#196 ·
King K said:Total amnesia! 😕

Check out which Mexicans actually believed the hype and cast their votes here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoim0hJN4Q

Real support is proven at the ballot box—just look back at how the Democratic Party performed during those first major elections in the States back in 1990!
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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#197 ·
Jamie Fox60 said:Real support is proven at the ballot box—just look back at how the Democratic Party performed during those first major elections in the States back in 1990!

It didn't matter to them if it was the Democratic Party or the Communist Party USA.
Jamie Fox60 Jamie Fox60 Member
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#198 ·
vividraven26 said:It didn't matter to them if it was the Democratic Party or the Communist Party USA.

Bill Clinton and George Wallace are definitely not the same thing! Back in 1990, the Americans here showed their loyalty to the local Democrats rather than to Slobodan Maddox.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#199 ·
Jamie Fox60 said:Bill Clinton and George Wallace are definitely not the same thing! Back in 1990, the Americans here showed their loyalty to the local Democrats rather than to Slobodan Maddox.

And when the Democratic Party started dragging its feet on the whole idea of separating from the rest of the union, plenty of people just walked away from them.
silentmason8 silentmason8 Member
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#200 ·
"Does America need to revive that old resistance spirit?" (?)

Why bother, when the American Constitution clearly states that the Republic of America is built on the anti-fascist values forged during the Resistance Movement—specifically through the fight of the partisans:

"Expressing the millennial national identity and state continuity of the American people, confirmed by the sequence of historical events across various forms of government and the preservation of the state-building thought regarding the American people's historical right to full sovereignty, which manifested in: ... establishing the foundations of state sovereignty during World War II, expressed in opposition to the declaration of the Axis-aligned State (1941) within the decisions of the National Liberation Council (1943), and subsequently in the Constitution of the People's Republic of America (1947) and later in the constitutions of the Socialist Republic of America (1963-1990); at the historical turning point of rejecting the communist system and the shifts in the European international order, the American people freely confirmed their thousand-year state identity through the first democratic elections (1990) ."

Anyone spitting on anti-fascism, the partisans, or the Resistance Movement (while secretly mooning over the Axis-aligned State, I assume 😉 ) is essentially spitting on America and its Constitution. Not exactly the definition of patriots...

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