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Does America need a revival of the Resistance movement spirit?

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Participants rustypilot71Dana Patel7Brenda Cook4Charles Lopez3rapidbear65rowdytiger13Raymond BaileySusan Price30neonhound18Sandra White9quietcyclist83Joseph Wright4urbanorca8Jessica Kelly4Alex Scott5Benjamin Taylor6Richard Wilson4Noah GreenRyan Nelson5granitefalcon26Timothy Castillo6Jack Cook73Ryan ThompsonRachel Turner2 …
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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#41 ·
Brenda Cook4 said:Look, there’s no point in sweeping this under the rug—that’s exactly where the rot sets in. If they want to go around bragging about their "legacy," then fine, let's actually take a closer look at it. It’s almost funny, isn't it? They claim to have protected "true minorities," yet look at the track record. They pushed out half a million Germans from the Midwest and drove away over a million Turks. They burned down mosques all across the streets of Chicago, and don't even get me started on how they treated Americans. Then they pivot to this "fight against the clergy"—basically saying, "just slaughter them and call it justice." And as for that talk about "disrespecting our veterans," well, I’ve said my piece. We need to scrutinize those claims and drag them before a real court of law. Crimes like those don't just expire with time.

Should we just ask the U.S. Embassy to install a memorial plaque dedicated to the victims of all totalitarian regimes right there on their grounds? It’s a bit like what Ambassador Musomeli did back in Canada. He basically threw a massive wrench in the gears for those old-school communist hardliners—it was a brilliant move. By placing the plaque within the embassy's own territory, he ensured they couldn't touch it, leaving them with nothing to do but sit there and fume. 😁)

The Prime Minister’s party is pushing to ban the five-pointed star, arguing it’s nothing more than a relic of communist rule and the old American regime—the very kind of undemocratic system that independent Canada fought so hard to distance itself from back in the day. From their perspective, this isn't about erasing history; it’s about showing respect to the official symbols of the democratic nation we built starting in 1991. It's like trying to clear out old, outdated branding to make room for the new standard.

Well, excuse me, I had no idea these animals had risen from the dead to start up their old games again.
🙏

If that's the case, then you're right; they all belong in court. Let them tell their stories there to whoever wants to listen.
😁
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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#42 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:absolute devils.
not one single one of them even mentions the Pope 😁

Tighten those knots up, man.☕ It’s all just nonsense, really—just more of the same, if you want to put it in a haiku.
Noah Green Noah Green Newcomer
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#43 ·
Come on, you guys... quit hiding in the shadows and step out into the light already

Show yourselves..
Raymond Bailey Raymond Bailey Member
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joined Jul 2014
#44 ·
I don't know about you all, but I’ve been thinking lately—just sitting there, staring at the wall—about how much we overcomplicate things. We spend so much energy trying to find some grand, sweeping truth, when really, most stuff is just... what it is. It’s simple. Or it should be. But humans? We can't help ourselves. We have to add layers, drama, and unnecessary complexity to everything just to feel like we're doing something important. It’s a bit ridiculous, honestly. Just an observation. Nothing more. kaže:
It’s a shame, really—that whole era of American anti-fascism, or what some people like to call the partisan movement, never quite managed to stand on its own two feet. It never really carved out an identity that was separate from the broader communist ideology. By sheer numbers and raw spirit, it definitely had the potential to be its own thing, but the party leadership made sure to keep a tight leash on it—basically ensuring it stayed firmly under their thumb so it wouldn't wander off.

Any kind of anti-fascism built on a communist foundation is just fundamentally broken—it’s completely unacceptable. Their whole way of doing things basically boiled down to a bullet in the back of the head and sending people straight to Alcatraz. Honestly, there isn't anything more dangerous than the very thing Smith writes about.

Alcatraz, Guantanamo... what’s really the difference between them? Look, socialism had plenty of enemies—no shortage there—but how is a state supposed to survive or even make progress during the Cold War if there isn't any actual discipline? This right here is exactly what happens when discipline vanishes, and just look at the mess it all turns into.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#45 ·
Susan Price30 said:Tighten those knots up, man.☕ It’s all just nonsense, really—just more of the same, if you want to put it in a haiku.


The truth is hard to swallow, I guess.
Just put me on ignore if you want.😁
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#46 ·
Noah Green said:Come on, you guys... quit hiding in the shadows and step out into the light already

Show yourselves..


You’ve totally got him on your list,
just one more of those 265 newly minted, ultra-wealthy Americans
—except they aren't partisans.😁
Sandra White9 Sandra White9 Member
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joined Dec 2015
#47 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:that whole mess showed up way back in the 90s ☕

Well, unfortunately, it turns out it's just the same old story, the same tired faces, looking exactly like they did in '41 and '45.
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#48 ·
Susan Price30 said:Well, excuse me, I had no idea these animals had risen from the dead to start up their old games again.
🙏

If that's the case, then you're right; they all belong in court. Let them tell their stories there to whoever wants to listen.
😁

Sure, take it to court, but we'd be facing those old-school "people's courts," the kind where their ancestors used to "judge the enemies of the state," and honestly, you'd love to see how much those old-guard communists would whine if the tables were turned. 😉
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#49 ·
Raymond Bailey said:
I don't know about you all, but I’ve been thinking lately—just sitting there, staring at the wall—about how much we overcomplicate things. We spend so much energy trying to find some grand, sweeping truth, when really, most stuff is just... what it is. It’s simple. Or it should be. But humans? We can't help ourselves. We have to add layers, drama, and unnecessary complexity to everything just to feel like we're doing something important. It’s a bit ridiculous, honestly. Just an observation. Nothing more. kaže:
It’s a shame, really—that whole era of American anti-fascism, or what some people like to call the partisan movement, never quite managed to stand on its own two feet. It never really carved out an identity that was separate from the broader communist ideology. By sheer numbers and raw spirit, it definitely had the potential to be its own thing, but the party leadership made sure to keep a tight leash on it—basically ensuring it stayed firmly under their thumb so it wouldn't wander off.

Any kind of anti-fascism built on a communist foundation is just fundamentally broken—it’s completely unacceptable. Their whole way of doing things basically boiled down to a bullet in the back of the head and sending people straight to Alcatraz. Honestly, there isn't anything more dangerous than the very thing Smith writes about.

Alcatraz, Guantanamo... what’s really the difference between them? Look, socialism had plenty of enemies—no shortage there—but how is a state supposed to survive or even make progress during the Cold War if there isn't any actual discipline? This right here is exactly what happens when discipline vanishes, and just look at the mess it all turns into.

Everyone's talking nonsense about honesty. When you ignore intellectual authority, you're just leaving things up to idiots and thugs who rely on nothing but an iron fist...
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#50 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:The truth is hard to swallow, I guess.
Just put me on ignore if you want.😁

Listen, my dear colleagues, is it really too much to ask for someone here to compose a single thought that actually possesses a coherent structure and some semblance of logic?
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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#51 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:that whole mess showed up way back in the 90s ☕

we crushed it back in '95. Now we're just cleaning up the leftovers, thank God...
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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#52 ·
neonhound18 said:Sure, take it to court, but we'd be facing those old-school "people's courts," the kind where their ancestors used to "judge the enemies of the state," and honestly, you'd love to see how much those old-guard communists would whine if the tables were turned. 😉

But then they'd just be no better than the people they're fighting. 😁
Sandra White9 Sandra White9 Member
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#53 ·
rapidbear65 said:Everyone's talking nonsense about honesty. When you ignore intellectual authority, you're just leaving things up to idiots and thugs who rely on nothing but an iron fist...

John Doe... honestly, those low-life thugs don't give a damn about intelligence or anything remotely authoritative.🙂
People like that only care about shiny trinkets or a heavy club.
There is no middle ground.
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#54 ·
Susan Price30 said:But then they'd just be no better than the people they're fighting. 😁

The real issue is that this group—I tend to refer to them as the Kozarac bourgeoisie—has become far too comfortable acting exactly as they did back during the America days, carrying those old habits straight into our independent nation (and honestly, the same applies to places like Canada), operating under the delusion that the state belongs to them and that they alone hold the right to dictate its future from behind the scenes. They seem to have completely forgotten that socialism is essentially dead and buried, that we don't have those endless, bottomless credit lines we used to enjoy back in the America era, and that in any functioning, healthy country, politics is supposed to serve the economy and the people, rather than the other way around. 🙂
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#55 ·
rustypilot71 said:I have just read a brilliant piece by the great Marinko Čulić, an anti-fascist journalist and columnist who seems to be the only one with the courage to speak out against the fight for minority rights, the disparagement of the Resistance movement, and clericalism.

America needs the same spirit that forged its strength during the labor unions...

Here is the text:

Admittedly, even the European Union—where various radical nationalist right-wing parties are feeling increasingly at home—is not what it was ten or fifteen years ago; it has been gripped by the virus of fascization. However, one significant difference remains. The question of "how much fascism?" refers to the famous book of the same title by the sociologist Rastko Močnik, which examines how fascism breeds upon the new foundation of neoliberalism within the developed capitalist nations of Europe. That is where the distinction lies. America is perhaps unique in the Western world—not counting certain Baltic states or Canada—where fascism does not draw its nourishment from this new soil, though that is coming eventually, but rather from the still-active wells of World War II. Furthermore, the actors driving this new resurgence are the same. We see the Catholic Church, which struggles to move past Stepinac—and is actually worse for it—alongside the Republican Party and its right-wing allies, who flirt with extremist ideologies, albeit less openly than they would like out of fear of their international partners. Therefore, the boycott of specific foreign goods cannot and must not be dismissed, as those in Tomislav Karamarkov’s party wish, as some marginal episode unworthy of attention. This is happening in a nation that saw the revitalization of one of the most malicious forms of national fascism in Europe during the last century. Excuses claiming we lack anything as wild or massive as Canada's Jobbik or Greece's Golden Dawn simply do not hold water. Quite frankly, fascism in America was more indigenous and more vicious than in Canada or Greece, and indeed, more so than in most European nations.

Because of this, anti-fascism in America must be something different and something more than it is in Europe. Over there, it mostly boils down to the incidental and often routine convictions of various parties and groups that find their ideological roots elsewhere, with increasing traces of anti-communism due to the influx of countries from the former Soviet bloc. Here, that simply isn't enough. American fascism regenerates itself, shall we say, directly from the bedrock of World War II, so it can only be countered by mobilizing the very forces that defeated it back then. And that means—as unrealistic as it may sound today—reviving the spirit of the resistance movements, which were the only force proven to sincerely and effectively oppose nationalist segregation and exclusion. Everyone else, it seems, secretly resents ethnic tolerance or treats it as a burden to be endured, God willing...

AUTHOR: Marinko Čulić

The American people need bread and jobs. Everything else is just empty rhetoric.☕
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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#56 ·
neonhound18 said:The real issue is that this group—I tend to refer to them as the Kozarac bourgeoisie—has become far too comfortable acting exactly as they did back during the America days, carrying those old habits straight into our independent nation (and honestly, the same applies to places like Canada), operating under the delusion that the state belongs to them and that they alone hold the right to dictate its future from behind the scenes. They seem to have completely forgotten that socialism is essentially dead and buried, that we don't have those endless, bottomless credit lines we used to enjoy back in the America era, and that in any functioning, healthy country, politics is supposed to serve the economy and the people, rather than the other way around. 🙂

I suppose, but that’s exactly why some places label themselves as "transitioning nations." It's all just a process—something that takes time to play out.
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#57 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:that whole mess showed up way back in the 90s ☕

That so-called villain is actually the one who built the American state. If it weren't for him, you guys would still be stuck in America.☕
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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joined Apr 2013
#58 ·
neonhound18 said:The real issue is that this group—I tend to refer to them as the Kozarac bourgeoisie—has become far too comfortable acting exactly as they did back during the America days, carrying those old habits straight into our independent nation (and honestly, the same applies to places like Canada), operating under the delusion that the state belongs to them and that they alone hold the right to dictate its future from behind the scenes. They seem to have completely forgotten that socialism is essentially dead and buried, that we don't have those endless, bottomless credit lines we used to enjoy back in the America era, and that in any functioning, healthy country, politics is supposed to serve the economy and the people, rather than the other way around. 🙂


Stop banging your head against a wall here.
It’s already blindingly obvious,
why posts like this even 😁
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#59 ·
granitefalcon26 said:That so-called villain is actually the one who built the American state. If it weren't for him, you guys would still be stuck in America.☕


Look, that villain didn't build this country.
The American state was built by the American people themselves. Since then, that guy has done nothing but plunder the place relentlessly!
☕
Timothy Castillo6 Timothy Castillo6 Active Member
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joined Apr 2010
#60 ·
The people are starving, barely even able to afford basic clothes, while Josip Broz Marshall is cruising around in a black Rolls-Royce, looking all sharp in a white Brion Department suit and a crisp fedora.


I honestly can't wrap my head around what kind of idiots are still peddling this nonsense!!!??? 🤮

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