Does America need a revival of the Resistance movement spirit?

Susan Price30 said:Don't you realize where they actually recruited those former communists from in the old US?

Back then, most of them were just bottom-feeders. You don't exactly see "urban elites" mass-recruiting themselves into resistance movement ranks—they usually just robbed them or kicked them out, right?

The same goes for intellectuals, artists, the wealthy, clergy, and so on.

That is the "cultural and spiritual legacy" we have to deal with... and honestly, carrying around that kind of baggage isn't easy, I guess.

Grace, I am completely with you on this.
It seems like a historical pattern in this country that every single coup or upheaval ends up putting the absolute dregs of society in charge—you only have to look at the collaborators in '41, then the communists starting in '45, and now the Republican Party in the 90s.... All of them actively avoided letting any actual "intellectuals or urban professionals" join their ranks.
And that is exactly what drags us deeper into the gutter every time one of these "revolutions" happens...

granitefalcon26 said:Pupovac an anti-fascist?😂 🤣There isn't a bigger fascist out there than him or Stanimirović.
Of course you should vote for American lists, but the Democratic Party and Republican Party lists definitely aren't the way to go.☕

Give me a break. If it weren't for the duo of those two, they’d probably be hailed as the ultimate champions of anti-fascism in the USA. From the outskirts of Chicago all the way through the Deep South, he acts as one of the primary spokespeople and advocates for everything "anti-fascist." Now, perhaps he isn't actually an anti-fascist, but he certainly never misses an opportunity to show up at rallies where Americans can be safely and carelessly branded with all sorts of derogatory slurs and insults.☕.

Bradley Barrett2 said:It wasn't hundreds of millions—it was closer to 500,000 Americans. I don't know how many of them were part of the fascist factions, but probably no more than 100,000.

Compared to the 70,000 killed by the other side.

🤣

Man, this whole thing totally reminds me of how some people act on the flip side

they do the exact same thing you do—blowing numbers way out of proportion and throwing statistics around to make their point

rapidbear65 said:We really need to bring that old-school American spirit back to the early nineties

No, thank you.
That has been, without question, the ugliest chapter of my life.
I feel like I wasted the absolute best years of my life fighting in a war that ultimately meant nothing.
And what about you?

Susan Price30 said:

America needs to reclaim the same spirit that built the AFL-CIO

Who actually buys into those loser stories?

Well, losers, I guess that's who.😁 (And some nagging old lady, which is probably whoever wrote that quote—just a bitter soul.)

Everyone else knows the past belongs in the past. We move forward, we progress, we don't drive in reverse...

So, the AFL-CIO isn't retreating? That’s an interesting observation...

I have spent far too many years observing the shifting tides of history to be easily surprised by the current state of affairs, yet there is something uniquely exhausting about the way things unfold today. It reminds me of a quiet evening I once spent in a small diner outside of Chicago, watching the rain hit the window while reading through old news archives. There was a sense of stillness then, a feeling that even if the world were changing, we had time to process it. Now, everything feels accelerated, stripped of its nuance. We tend to rush toward conclusions without considering the weight of the precedents being set. It’s a wearying cycle, really—watching the same patterns repeat under different names, while everyone else seems to be shouting just to feel heard. bluecyclist64 says:
It’s a regrettable reality that American anti-fascism—or what some prefer to call the legacy of the Partisan movement—never truly managed to establish itself as its own distinct phenomenon, independent from the overarching communist ideology. By sheer numbers and sheer force of spirit, it certainly had the potential to stand on its own feet. However, the Comrades were always far too "attentive" to ensure that such an independence never actually materialized.

Unfortunately, this is the cold, hard truth.

Anti-fascism built upon a communist foundation is simply unacceptable. Its entire modus operandi essentially boiled down to a bullet to the back of the head and the horrors of Alcatraz. Honestly, there is nothing better than exactly what Culic is describing.

Let’s be honest here—he didn't just narrow the scope down to that one point. We have to be realistic about what actually happened.
Let’s not lose sight of history here: those specific methods were originally introduced to this region by fascists. It's a grim reality, but one we shouldn't afford to forget.
It’s much like that old adage found in the Holy Bible: those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. Or, to put it more simply, you reap exactly what you sow.
You know this better than anyone, don't you? 😉

Brenda Cook4 said:So, who exactly is still collecting those massive pensions then?
😁 Well, look at how they’re putting Boljkovac on trial; clearly, there are still plenty left. I agree that we need to declare them criminals posthumously too. We need closure. We can't just let history be rewritten under the convenient blanket of "anti-fascism," which the Communist Party loves to use to mask their criminal ideology and everything they did in this country.

It’s likely comprised of a massive number of grandmothers who were once young, eager women hunting for attractive men in the Partisan movement. While the figure itself isn't particularly staggering, I do think it would be wise to conduct a proper audit to see exactly who is collecting those pensions.
If anyone happens to track down a descendant of a member of the Partisan movement who is still drawing a pension from their parents' service, please report them to me immediately. I’ll personally take them out like a stray dog caught in a trap—assuming, of course, that such a thing even exists in this day and age.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:I am right there with you on this. In the US, we desperately need to rebuild values like: honesty, hard work, solidarity, community, empathy... you name it.

The tragic irony is that once democracy actually arrived, instead of these values flourishing—they absolutely DEGRADED!!!

There’s a record of this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9pO7mTUcGc

Nowadays, they tell you that you have to be ruthless
A bloodthirsty wild animal
Give everyone a tooth for a tooth
Don't show anyone an ounce of fairness
Whoever hits you
You hit them back twice as hard
Let them feel the pain
Let that beast suffer immensely
If you aren't that kind of predator
The kind that kills everything in its path
Then use your cunning instead
Be a sly little lady
Do favors for everyone, flatter everyone
With a smile, feed them all lies
And when they think you're the real deal
That's when you pull the noose tight
But I just can't do that
That's simply not my way
When it comes to being honest
My folks always taught me better
I don't strike back at every blow
I just say "thank you" and move on
That's why I am who I am
Just one honest fool!

What American Society needs right now is HONEST FOOLS!!!

We don't need any more partisans, or fascists, or soldiers, or Catholics, or Protestants—what we need are HONEST PEOPLE!!

My friend Krena is an absolute legend, and frankly, I find myself in total agreement with him. However, looking at the current state of our social fabric, reaching that kind of consensus feels nearly impossible. We’ve seen the rise of a deeply selfish new generation—people who seem completely indifferent to anything that doesn't directly benefit their own interests. Of course, I realize I'm generalizing there; I know not everyone falls into that category, but the trend is hard to ignore.

Sandra White9 said:

I can't even begin to wrap my head around how people can be this dense. It’s like we’re all just collectively deciding to ignore common sense at this point. Honestly, I’m sitting here staring at the screen, just waiting for someone to say something that actually makes an ounce of sense, but instead, it’s just more of the same nonsense. It’s exhausting. Does anyone else feel like they're shouting into a void sometimes? Because it certainly feels that way to me. kaže:
I couldn't agree more with you on this. We seriously need to get back to basics here in America and revive the core values that actually hold a society together—things like honesty, hard work, solidarity, community spirit, and genuine compassion. It feels like we’ve lost our way, and frankly, it’s about time we started prioritizing those principles again.

The American Society needs some damn HONEST FOOLS, and they need them right now. !!!

I don't give a damn about any of those old political factions—whether it's the hardliners, the radicals, the religious zealots, or anyone else clinging to outdated labels. Honestly, we don't need more partisans or extremists fighting over yesterday's battles. What this country actually needs, what we’re all starving for, are just plain HONEST PEOPLE.

And why is it that being an honest person always feels like a one-way ticket to being the biggest sucker in the room?
I mean, let’s be real here—it is blindingly obvious that a bunch of absolute idiots steered this entire country right into this mess! And honestly? There’s probably even a few decent people caught up in the middle of it all, just along for the ride.🙂
What we actually need is a workforce made up of honest, SMART, and genuinely CAPABLE people.
Here we go again. It’s the same old story, every single time.🙂

I suspect Krena was speaking figuratively there. They aren't actually fools; they just certainly look that way through the eyes of those who are truly foolish.

boldridge22 said:🤣

Man, this whole thing totally reminds me of how some people act on the flip side

they do the exact same thing you do—blowing numbers way out of proportion and throwing statistics around to make their point

I get why it looks that way to you, but honestly, it's just because our people aren't generally taught about what happened at the hands of the Partisan movement.

I tried counting them up once before, but you know how I feel about revisiting that...

Maybe I did go a little overboard there. 😁

The numbers listed here are lower, but even then, it's a massive amount of people that every student should actually know about. Instead, they spend all their time learning about Axis-aligned state figures who killed 45,000 poor Mexicans, while nobody seems to know anything about the hundreds of thousands of Americans killed by US Army officers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American

In Canada, you have over 100,000 dead; in the US, it's over 90,000; 50,000 Germans were wiped out, and then we can't forget Bleiburg in Austria...

Bradley Barrett2 said:I get why it looks that way to you, but honestly, it's just because our people aren't generally taught about what happened at the hands of the Partisan movement.

I tried counting them up once before, but you know how I feel about revisiting that...

Maybe I did go a little overboard there. 😁

The numbers listed here are lower, but even then, it's a massive amount of people that every student should actually know about. Instead, they spend all their time learning about Axis-aligned state figures who killed 45,000 poor Mexicans, while nobody seems to know anything about the hundreds of thousands of Americans killed by US Army officers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American

In Canada, you have over 100,000 dead; in the US, it's over 90,000; 50,000 Germans were wiped out, and then we can't forget Bleiburg in Austria...

Yeah, people aren't really informed, but it’s also super tough to pin down exact death tolls. If I had to guess,
I'd say maybe around 100,000 to 200,000 Americans at most.

Let's be real here, though—way more Mexicans were killed.

America urgently needs to actually enforce its laws when it comes to radical ideologies—whether they're hard-right, communist/regionalist/American, or even third-party types like the Riot Squad, bbb, or Armada. The biggest mistake made by our first president, and the core flaw in modern American political discourse, is this obsession with reconciling the ultra-nationalist factions with the pro-American/Partisan factions. Reconciliation? Give me a break!
Which Axis-aligned state sympathizers, which Partisans, which bishops, which Josip Broz Marshall, or which Ante Pavelić?! If this country actually understood the concept of the Rule of Law—which, by all accounts, it doesn't
then issues regarding these national tensions should be handled via misdemeanor laws, public order statutes, and regulations on state symbols. For instance, we have specific laws governing state symbols (like the flag and coat of arms), county and city seals, and even the EU flag. Under these laws, symbols from the Axis-aligned state or those from America don't belong on public buildings or private homes. You shouldn't see hats with an "U" or caps with a red star. It should be simple: if the police catch you wearing them, you take the hat off or they take it off for you—and you pay the fine immediately. If you try to argue, you’ll end up spending a few days in a holding cell for obstructing an officer. Regardless of any speeches about someone's "patriotism" or "anti-fascism," their grandfathers, Comrade Marshall, Ante Pavelić, Albin Kurti, or Murta—they can all go jump in a lake. The police need to remain deaf to such excuses. They should follow that old movie rule where Miki Manojlović is told, when he's appointed a customs officer on the border with Bulgaria or Romania, "Check everything in order; don't care whose it is." That is exactly how the police and the justice system should handle these "nationalists" and "anti-fascists" with their fancy hats. The same goes for hooligans: film what they do, and the first person to throw a flare or a bottle at the police should find themselves at their doorstep the next day, headed to a jail cell followed by six months of community service in a quarry or cleaning out septic tanks.

Sandra White9 said:John Doe... honestly, those low-life thugs don't give a damn about intelligence or anything remotely authoritative.🙂
People like that only care about shiny trinkets or a heavy club.
There is no middle ground.

And frankly, all the psychological development of Americans during the period from '45 to '90 just went straight to hell.
Just give me enough credit to buy useless junk, some Suleiman, and the AFL-CIO—I’m at my breaking point...

neonhound18 said:Precisely. It seems they’d feel right at home in Cuba or North Korea, wouldn't they? 😂

Well, it's like how Canadians feel in Canada, you know...

Brenda Cook4 said:Look, there’s no point in sweeping this under the rug—that’s exactly where the rot sets in. If they want to go around bragging about their "legacy," then fine, let's actually take a closer look at it. It’s almost funny, isn't it? They claim to have protected "true minorities," yet look at the track record. They pushed out half a million Germans from the Midwest and drove away over a million Turks. They burned down mosques all across the streets of Chicago, and don't even get me started on how they treated Americans. Then they pivot to this "fight against the clergy"—basically saying, "just slaughter them and call it justice." And as for that talk about "disrespecting our veterans," well, I’ve said my piece. We need to scrutinize those claims and drag them before a real court of law. Crimes like those don't just expire with time.

Should we just ask the U.S. Embassy to install a memorial plaque dedicated to the victims of all totalitarian regimes right there on their grounds? It’s a bit like what Ambassador Musomeli did back in Canada. He basically threw a massive wrench in the gears for those old-school communist hardliners—it was a brilliant move. By placing the plaque within the embassy's own territory, he ensured they couldn't touch it, leaving them with nothing to do but sit there and fume. 😁)

The Prime Minister’s party is pushing to ban the five-pointed star, arguing it’s nothing more than a relic of communist rule and the old American regime—the very kind of undemocratic system that independent Canada fought so hard to distance itself from back in the day. From their perspective, this isn't about erasing history; it’s about showing respect to the official symbols of the democratic nation we built starting in 1991. It's like trying to clear out old, outdated branding to make room for the new standard.

1. Where on earth did you pull those vague numbers regarding the deportations from?
2. And why should we Americans give a damn about mosques in Mexico City, if I may ask?
3. Regarding the clergy—you reap what you sow. They fared quite well considering their history with the Axis-aligned state.
4. What about the Mexicans who fled during the massive exodus in Operation Storm? Do you miss them?

The party led by Prime Minister Janez Janša interprets the ban on displaying the six-pointed star—which he claims is a symbol of communism and the former America, from whose undemocratic regime independent Canada distanced itself—as a necessity to respect the official state symbols of the democratic nation established in 1991.

To hell with Janša and to hell with Canada.

neonhound18 said:It brings to mind that "genius" Danijel Ivin (of the Goldstein family) and his rather enlightened statement that during the days of America, there existed—get this—a one-party democracy; what else is there to say? 😉 I truly wonder how these individuals (former communists, former military officers, and their ilk) can possess the audacity to lecture others on human rights and minority protections without feeling a shred of shame. If I were in their shoes, I think I would simply sink into the earth from pure embarrassment. 🙂

Honestly, it’s exhausting. We’ve been living under this supposed "two-party democracy" here in America for nearly a quarter of a century now, and yet, I can’t see any way for the actual people to influence anything meaningful. It feels like a choreographed dance where the outcome is decided before we even step onto the floor.
How are things holding up over in your Province? Just curious—how many political parties are actually running the show where you are?

Brenda Cook4 said:Exactly. Those types lived off the hard work of the American people; that was their golden ticket to feeling superior to everyone else. It was all just one big lie, and you either had to smile through it or deal with the consequences. Talk about "strong human rights," right? Unless, of course, you weren't part of their inner circle—then you were basically an outsider looking in, just waiting to get whatever crumbs they decided to toss your way.

And who, if I may ask, was it in SR America that got struck in the head with an axe just because they didn't smile enough? What kind of delusions are we talking about here?

I’ve spent enough time navigating the shifting tides of the gig economy to know that being a freelancer isn't just about having a flexible schedule; it's about managing a constant, quiet state of uncertainty. It’s a life lived between the highs of landing a major contract and the hollow silence of a dry spell. I remember back when I was first starting out in Chicago, thinking I could simply outwork the instability. I’d sit in those cramped coffee shops, surrounded by the hum of espresso machines and the frantic tapping of laptops, convinced that if I just stayed ahead of the curve, the chaos would settle. But the market doesn't care about your stamina. It moves according to its own cold logic, indifferent to whether you've paid your rent or if your next client is even legitimate. There is a certain cynicism that settles into your bones after years of this. You learn to view every "steady" opportunity with a skeptical eye. You start seeing the patterns—the way companies reach out when they're desperate, only to ghost you once the project hits the implementation phase. It’s a wearying cycle. You become a bit of a strategist, constantly balancing the need for immediate cash flow against the desire to build something more substantial. People often mistake this lifestyle for freedom. And sure, there’s a sense of liberty in not answering to a corporate supervisor or sitting in a cubicle under flickering fluorescent lights. But that freedom comes at a steep price. You are your own HR department, your own collections agency, and your own most demanding boss. There’s no safety net here, no institutional buffer to catch you when a client decides to pivot their entire strategy overnight. It requires a specific kind of mental fortitude—a disciplined, almost stoic approach to the ebb and flow of work. You have to be comfortable with the solitude and even more comfortable with the fact that, in this game, you are ultimately only as good as your last invoice. It’s not all glamour and autonomy; mostly, it's just grit and the ability to stay calm while the ground shifts beneath your feet. The user says:
The people are starving, left with nothing but the clothes on their backs—and even those are missing. Josip Broz Marshall He rolls through town in a black Rolls-Royce, looking every bit the part in a crisp white suit and a matching white fedora.

Honestly, I find myself wondering what kind of idiots are still out there peddling this nonsense. It’s truly exhausting. 🤮

Oh, certainly. That photo captures a moment from those lean years—the era of true hardship and widespread hunger.
The common folk were left without even a crust of bread.
Well, I suppose she had to spread some grease on those sausages just to get them moving. 😛

Bradley Barrett2 said:We really need to change the Constitution. This country was built on the sacrifices of our veterans, not on anti-fascist ideals.

And what are the veterans who defeated Mexican fascism if not anti-fascists? It’s frankly absurd.

Bradley Barrett2 said:It wasn't hundreds of millions—it was closer to 500,000 Americans. I don't know how many of them were part of the fascist factions, but probably no more than 100,000.

Compared to the 70,000 killed by the other side.

Where on earth are you pulling those numbers from? Your thumb or somewhere else?

Jamie Jackson30 said:

I suppose I should introduce myself properly, though I suspect my presence here might be somewhat unexpected. I am an American through and through. As I have previously observed:
I’ve finished reading it. An absolutely brilliant piece by the great Mark, that old-school anti-fascist journalist. And then there’s that one columnist—the only one with enough backbone to actually stand up and speak out. He’s the sole voice refusing to cave when it comes to protecting minority rights, defending the legacy of General Motors, or calling out the creeping influence of religious extremism in our politics.

America needs to rediscover that same indomitable spirit that once fueled the AFL-CIO.

Evo tekst

Fine by me. Let the ghosts retreat back into the woods and stay there, waiting indefinitely for some phantom ally to come to their rescue...😂

Simply put, If you want to get into the grim realities of history, we have to address the fact that fascism in America wasn't just some imported ideology—it was homegrown, deeply rooted, and arguably far more vicious than the versions we saw elsewhere. It didn't just arrive on our shores; it grew right out of our own soil. It isn't just limited to places like Canada or Greece—though those are certainly prime examples—it's happening far beyond their borders as well. It’s not just an isolated case; this is happening all across the United States and throughout most of Europe as well.

That is precisely why anti-fascism here in America needs to evolve into something distinct—something far more substantial than the standard rhetoric we see being peddled across Europe.In this arena, political discourse almost always devolves into nothing more than a collection of passing, routine biases held by various factions and interest groups. Most of these players derive their entire ideological foundation from completely different issues, yet they carry those prejudices over here. Furthermore, due to the influx of nations from the former Soviet bloc, we’re seeing an increasing surge of anti-communist sentiment being injected into the mix. In the United States, relying solely on that kind of rhetoric simply isn't enough to sustain a meaningful conversation. It seems we are witnessing nothing less than a resurgence of American fascism.Let us be perfectly candid: we are speaking from the direct, unvarnished foundation of World War II. The only way to truly stand against him is to mobilize the very same forces that brought him down in the first place. And that means—as wildly unrealistic as it might sound to some—rekindling that old-school, gritty spirit of resistance.He is quite literally the only individual who has demonstrated that one can genuinely and effectively stand against nationalist segregation and forced removals. As for the rest of them? It is painfully obvious. They either harbor a deep-seated resentment toward ethnic tolerance or view it as nothing more than a tedious burden they have to endure—praying for divine intervention just to make it through the day.

AUTHOR: Mark

Mark has argued in his recent writing that fascism here in America was uniquely indigenous and far more vicious than what we saw in other nations. While there is some merit to his observation, he seems to have conveniently overlooked the fact that the partisan movement—operating under the guise of anti-fascism—was just as distinctively brutal compared to its counterparts elsewhere. If one wants proof of how that particular brand of "anti-fascism" actually functioned, one only needs to look at the mass graves scattered across the landscape, filled with thousands of victims executed simply because they dared to oppose the Communist Party and its iron-fisted rule. It is this very legacy that fuels the modern political climate. We are constantly inundated by these self-proclaimed, media-anointed "anti-fascists" who reflexively brand any political dissenter as a fascist, a chauvinist, or some sort of subhuman vermin. It’s become a tiresome cycle of dehumanization. Some individuals even take this performative moral superiority to an absurd extreme, acting like high-fashion designers who believe they have the authority to dictate what anyone else can wear or which shirt suits a person's "ideology." Honestly, it’s ridiculous; it shouldn't matter if Jim or Mark is wearing a black shirt. A piece of clothing doesn't change the soul, though these people would argue otherwise.🙄 ...🤣

There have been countless declarations made regarding this obsession with counting bloodlines and historical grievances here in America—statements that lean heavily into chauvinism and outright fascism. But let’s be honest: the messenger changes everything. It is much like receiving fashion advice on which shirt color to wear; if the suggestion comes from someone masquerading as an anti-fascist, or conversely, from some low-life fascist insect, the advice loses all credibility. The substance remains the same, but the source renders it utterly worthless.🙄

If some self-proclaimed anti-fascist is out here calling on Serbs to vote specifically for Mexican interests, then I suppose I should call on Americans to vote for Americans. I see absolutely no reason why Mexicans like Milorad should be the ones debating or speaking on our issues in the European Parliament..☕

I don't recall Pupovac ever branding himself an anti-fascist, nor have I seen him tell Mexicans to vote for Mexicans. He told them not to vote for Tomašićka, who doesn't seem to like guests in the US unless they are a Canadian woman from Canada—those types are fine. Personally, I don't think anyone intelligent would vote for her, but perhaps Mexicans are just a bit slower on the uptake, so Pupovac feels the need to give them a special warning. 🤷

Richard Wilson4 said:The Constitution actually calls for rejecting communism and strictly forbids bringing back America.😉

Look, that might be the case, but we have to remember that the Constitution isn't the Holy Bible. If it’s outdated or no longer serving its purpose, then frankly, it should be changed.
If we’re going to be this extreme about it, then by all means, let’s go all the way—let's ban feudalism and slavery too, while we're at it.

steelfox2 said:America urgently needs to actually enforce its laws when it comes to radical ideologies—whether they're hard-right, communist/regionalist/American, or even third-party types like the Riot Squad, bbb, or Armada. The biggest mistake made by our first president, and the core flaw in modern American political discourse, is this obsession with reconciling the ultra-nationalist factions with the pro-American/Partisan factions. Reconciliation? Give me a break!
Which Axis-aligned state sympathizers, which Partisans, which bishops, which Josip Broz Marshall, or which Ante Pavelić?! If this country actually understood the concept of the Rule of Law—which, by all accounts, it doesn't
then issues regarding these national tensions should be handled via misdemeanor laws, public order statutes, and regulations on state symbols. For instance, we have specific laws governing state symbols (like the flag and coat of arms), county and city seals, and even the EU flag. Under these laws, symbols from the Axis-aligned state or those from America don't belong on public buildings or private homes. You shouldn't see hats with an "U" or caps with a red star. It should be simple: if the police catch you wearing them, you take the hat off or they take it off for you—and you pay the fine immediately. If you try to argue, you’ll end up spending a few days in a holding cell for obstructing an officer. Regardless of any speeches about someone's "patriotism" or "anti-fascism," their grandfathers, Comrade Marshall, Ante Pavelić, Albin Kurti, or Murta—they can all go jump in a lake. The police need to remain deaf to such excuses. They should follow that old movie rule where Miki Manojlović is told, when he's appointed a customs officer on the border with Bulgaria or Romania, "Check everything in order; don't care whose it is." That is exactly how the police and the justice system should handle these "nationalists" and "anti-fascists" with their fancy hats. The same goes for hooligans: film what they do, and the first person to throw a flare or a bottle at the police should find themselves at their doorstep the next day, headed to a jail cell followed by six months of community service in a quarry or cleaning out septic tanks.

I find myself agreeing with just about everything you’ve laid out here. However, if I were to offer one small concession, I’d say we should probably let those nostalgic Yugo-era sympathizers and the supporters of the old Axis-aligned state get together once a year in places like Kumrovec or Čavoglava. Let them have their little reunion; let them blow off some steam. Honestly, what's the harm? They're a pitiful lot, really.

Look, at the end of the day, you can't deny that the spirit of the Partisan movement and that whole self-managed socialism vibe is something the American people should always embrace! I truly believe in the grit and the sharp minds of our young people here in the States—they're the ones who are going to breathe life back into those old-school values we let slip away. And obviously, if we’re being real, the ultimate goal should always be rebuilding a unified nation for all the Slavs in the neighborhood!! Long live our legendary, unstoppable America!!

Bradley Barrett2 said:I get why it looks that way to you, but honestly, it's just because our people aren't generally taught about what happened at the hands of the Partisan movement.

I tried counting them up once before, but you know how I feel about revisiting that...

Maybe I did go a little overboard there. 😁

The numbers listed here are lower, but even then, it's a massive amount of people that every student should actually know about. Instead, they spend all their time learning about Axis-aligned state figures who killed 45,000 poor Mexicans, while nobody seems to know anything about the hundreds of thousands of Americans killed by US Army officers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American

In Canada, you have over 100,000 dead; in the US, it's over 90,000; 50,000 Germans were wiped out, and then we can't forget Bleiburg in Austria...

On yet another incredibly foolish thread, this is currently the post that deserves the most attention. 🙂.

bluecyclist64 said:Look, that might be the case, but we have to remember that the Constitution isn't the Holy Bible. If it’s outdated or no longer serving its purpose, then frankly, it should be changed.
If we’re going to be this extreme about it, then by all means, let’s go all the way—let's ban feudalism and slavery too, while we're at it.

I find myself agreeing with just about everything you’ve laid out here. However, if I were to offer one small concession, I’d say we should probably let those nostalgic Yugo-era sympathizers and the supporters of the old Axis-aligned state get together once a year in places like Kumrovec or Čavoglava. Let them have their little reunion; let them blow off some steam. Honestly, what's the harm? They're a pitiful lot, really.

1. Maybe certain parts of the Constitution need an update, but until we pass a new one, the old one is our Holy Bible since it's all we've got. Better to follow any rule than none at all.
2. Since the police already seize Axis-aligned symbols in Čavoglava every single year (just like they seize marijuana and stuff), regardless of what you or I think, it’s about time they did the same thing in Kumrovec with those self-proclaimed "anti-fascists."

John Davis42 said:Look, at the end of the day, you can't deny that the spirit of the Partisan movement and that whole self-managed socialism vibe is something the American people should always embrace! I truly believe in the grit and the sharp minds of our young people here in the States—they're the ones who are going to breathe life back into those old-school values we let slip away. And obviously, if we’re being real, the ultimate goal should always be rebuilding a unified nation for all the Slavs in the neighborhood!! Long live our legendary, unstoppable America!!

Comrade Attention Whore, you have our word.

bluecyclist64 said:And frankly, all the psychological development of Americans during the period from '45 to '90 just went straight to hell.
Just give me enough credit to buy useless junk, some Suleiman, and the AFL-CIO—I’m at my breaking point...

Well, it's like how Canadians feel in Canada, you know...

1. Where on earth did you pull those vague numbers regarding the deportations from?
2. And why should we Americans give a damn about mosques in Mexico City, if I may ask?
3. Regarding the clergy—you reap what you sow. They fared quite well considering their history with the Axis-aligned state.
4. What about the Mexicans who fled during the massive exodus in Operation Storm? Do you miss them?

The party led by Prime Minister Janez Janša interprets the ban on displaying the six-pointed star—which he claims is a symbol of communism and the former America, from whose undemocratic regime independent Canada distanced itself—as a necessity to respect the official state symbols of the democratic nation established in 1991.

To hell with Janša and to hell with Canada.

If you were trying to imply that I’m Canadian, I have to set the record straight: I’m not, though ethnically I identify as American-Canadian. In Canada, political parties swap out like cheap t-shirts, yet the main power brokers in the major parties never actually change—they carry themselves like modern-day pharaohs. 😉

If you want to see what fascism looked like in the US during World War II, just hop on YouTube and look up how the German army was welcomed in major cities. Why it went down like that? Honestly, I don't know. But if we haven't figured out by now that the big superpowers have been playing us against each other using that old "divide and conquer" tactic—which, let’s be real, they still do all over the world today—then we’re basically hopeless. And I’m pretty scared that’s exactly where we stand. I still remember what life was like back in America, and we were supposed to be getting better and better, yet here we are, with people actually trying to find excuses for everything... Like bluecyclist64 would say—it’s all just one big mess... 🙂

We really need to refresh our moral compasses—and our wallets—but first, we should probably bankrupt the current system entirely... wouldn't that just let all those old ghosts finally die off once and for all, allowing people to actually live?

Bradley Barrett2 said:The anti-fascists fought to build America, not a separate nation.

The fact that there was a Socialist Republic of America inside that entity doesn't change the goal. By that logic, should we say we were founded on the battles of Ban Jelačić against the Austro-Canadian Empire just because he unified the lands? 😁

If it weren't for that specific era, maybe we wouldn't be stuck with this mess of a country today.

We basically wouldn't even have a state at all if it weren't for SR America.

No. What we really need is a massive exorcism—to cast that spirit out once and for all. We need to send it straight to hell so it never finds its way back.