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Does America need a revival of the Resistance movement spirit?

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Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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#61 ·
Timothy Castillo6 said:The people are starving, barely even able to afford basic clothes, while Josip Broz Marshall is cruising around in a black Rolls-Royce, looking all sharp in a white Brion Department suit and a crisp fedora.


I honestly can't wrap my head around what kind of idiots are still peddling this nonsense!!!??? 🤮

Don't you realize where they actually recruited those former communists from in the old US?

Back then, most of them were just bottom-feeders. You don't exactly see "urban elites" mass-recruiting themselves into resistance movement ranks—they usually just robbed them or kicked them out, right?

The same goes for intellectuals, artists, the wealthy, clergy, and so on.

That is the "cultural and spiritual legacy" we have to deal with... and honestly, carrying around that kind of baggage isn't easy, I guess.
Jack Cook73 Jack Cook73 Member
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#62 ·
Where on earth are you getting this absolute nonsense from?
This country is seriously going down the drain. We’ve never dealt with a government this incompetent—it's like they're tripping over their own feet just to fail—and now, these total jokes are popping up everywhere. Is there actually anyone left here with a shred of common sense, or has everyone sane already packed up and left?
Timothy Castillo6 Timothy Castillo6 Active Member
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#63 ·
Everyone bailed. 😢
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#64 ·
neonhound18 said:Sure, take it to court, but we'd be facing those old-school "people's courts," the kind where their ancestors used to "judge the enemies of the state," and honestly, you'd love to see how much those old-guard communists would whine if the tables were turned. 😉

Back on my home island, there was this one guy from the local militia who was executed in the winter of '45. See, the partisans had pushed into our town after some pretty brutal fighting, and most of the resistance surrendered. But this one fighter? He didn't surrender; he just hunkered down, hiding out in a church bell tower, waiting for his moment. And his moment came sooner than expected—he popped out with a machine gun and cut down several partisans.
It was his fate, I suppose, but the sentence was death—purely for disobeying direct orders and taking matters into his own hands during combat!

Some elderly women saw him being led out for the execution and started weeping.
And he just looked at them and said, "Don't cry, ladies; I earned this death by being shot." 😢
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#65 ·
I’m curious, which group is Culic actually talking about when he mentions "strengthening the resistance spirit"?

Young Americans today basically define their identity through the nation, and they tend to lean way more toward nationalism—and honestly, a bit too much exclusivity—compared to what their parents or grandfathers believed in.

Take folks from coastal areas like Florida, where most of the resistance fighters were local patriots until '44; today, that majority isn't interested in those old values from the former era at all.

And the heavy hitters from the rural Midwest regions, who made up the core strength of the resistance? Most of those young guys are gone now, or after things went south back in '95, they just decided to leave the country for good.

So, if you ask me, which demographic is left to even build a foundation for boosting that kind of spirit?
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#66 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I’m curious, which group is Culic actually talking about when he mentions "strengthening the resistance spirit"?

Young Americans today basically define their identity through the nation, and they tend to lean way more toward nationalism—and honestly, a bit too much exclusivity—compared to what their parents or grandfathers believed in.

Take folks from coastal areas like Florida, where most of the resistance fighters were local patriots until '44; today, that majority isn't interested in those old values from the former era at all.

And the heavy hitters from the rural Midwest regions, who made up the core strength of the resistance? Most of those young guys are gone now, or after things went south back in '95, they just decided to leave the country for good.

So, if you ask me, which demographic is left to even build a foundation for boosting that kind of spirit?

based on the current Constitution.
antifascism, morality, ethics, ... 😁
Jack Cook73 Jack Cook73 Member
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#67 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I’m curious, which group is Culic actually talking about when he mentions "strengthening the resistance spirit"?

Young Americans today basically define their identity through the nation, and they tend to lean way more toward nationalism—and honestly, a bit too much exclusivity—compared to what their parents or grandfathers believed in.

Take folks from coastal areas like Florida, where most of the resistance fighters were local patriots until '44; today, that majority isn't interested in those old values from the former era at all.

And the heavy hitters from the rural Midwest regions, who made up the core strength of the resistance? Most of those young guys are gone now, or after things went south back in '95, they just decided to leave the country for good.

So, if you ask me, which demographic is left to even build a foundation for boosting that kind of spirit?

The old guard, the bureaucrats... just a bunch of guys in their prime.
Ryan Thompson Ryan Thompson Member
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#68 ·
Hmm, considering how that old extremist sentiment seems to be resurfacing here in America... 😁
Rachel Turner2 Rachel Turner2 Active Member
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#69 ·
Man, we’re such a backwards country if this is all we’ve got and only one person is actually backing it. 🙏
The old communist spirit 🙏 🙏is still

hanging around. I'm losing hope in this country more and more every single day.
Bradley Barrett2 Bradley Barrett2 Member
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joined Nov 2014
#70 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:based on the current Constitution.
antifascism, morality, ethics, ... 😁

We really need to change the Constitution. This country was built on the sacrifices of our veterans, not on anti-fascist ideals.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#71 ·
Bradley Barrett2 said:We really need to change the Constitution. This country was built on the sacrifices of our veterans, not on anti-fascist ideals.


😁

That’s pretty interesting.
Just seems like a bunch of manufactured history to me.
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#72 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:based on the current Constitution.
antifascism, morality, ethics, ... 😁


Much like the perspectives shared by Branko Segon and Z. Jovanovic. 😛
Bradley Barrett2 Bradley Barrett2 Member
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#73 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:😁

That’s pretty interesting.
Just seems like a bunch of manufactured history to me.

The anti-fascists fought to build America, not a separate nation.

The fact that there was a Socialist Republic of America inside that entity doesn't change the goal. By that logic, should we say we were founded on the battles of Ban Jelačić against the Austro-Canadian Empire just because he unified the lands? 😁

If it weren't for that specific era, maybe we wouldn't be stuck with this mess of a country today.
James Patel20 James Patel20 Active Member
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#74 ·
Bradley Barrett2 said:The anti-fascists fought to build America, not a separate nation.

The fact that there was a Socialist Republic of America inside that entity doesn't change the goal. By that logic, should we say we were founded on the battles of Ban Jelačić against the Austro-Canadian Empire just because he unified the lands? 😁

If it weren't for that specific era, maybe we wouldn't be stuck with this mess of a country today.

No, that’s just not how it works.

They were actually out there fighting to establish some kind of intergalactic federation, if you really think about it...

If that federation actually came into existence tomorrow, they’d all just pivot and claim they were fighting for that very purpose during World War II...

That was just the kind of visionaries they were, I suppose...

And their children, too...
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#75 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Back on my home island, there was this one guy from the local militia who was executed in the winter of '45. See, the partisans had pushed into our town after some pretty brutal fighting, and most of the resistance surrendered. But this one fighter? He didn't surrender; he just hunkered down, hiding out in a church bell tower, waiting for his moment. And his moment came sooner than expected—he popped out with a machine gun and cut down several partisans.
It was his fate, I suppose, but the sentence was death—purely for disobeying direct orders and taking matters into his own hands during combat!

Some elderly women saw him being led out for the execution and started weeping.
And he just looked at them and said, "Don't cry, ladies; I earned this death by being shot." 😢

If you spend even half as much time reading this forum as you think you do, you'll eventually realize how many innocent Americans were wiped out by the communists, and those who actually made it through the purge were left with nothing but bread and water while getting beaten daily.
Bradley Barrett2 Bradley Barrett2 Member
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#76 ·
David Vaughn75 said:If you spend even half as much time reading this forum as you think you do, you'll eventually realize how many innocent Americans were wiped out by the communists, and those who actually made it through the purge were left with nothing but bread and water while getting beaten daily.

It wasn't hundreds of millions—it was closer to 500,000 Americans. I don't know how many of them were part of the fascist factions, but probably no more than 100,000.

Compared to the 70,000 killed by the other side.
Jamie Jackson30 Jamie Jackson30 Member
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#77 ·
I suppose I should introduce myself properly, though I suspect my presence here might be somewhat unexpected. I am an American through and through. As I have previously observed:
I’ve finished reading it. An absolutely brilliant piece by the great Mark, that old-school anti-fascist journalist. And then there’s that one columnist—the only one with enough backbone to actually stand up and speak out. He’s the sole voice refusing to cave when it comes to protecting minority rights, defending the legacy of General Motors, or calling out the creeping influence of religious extremism in our politics.

America needs to rediscover that same indomitable spirit that once fueled the AFL-CIO.

Evo tekst

Fine by me. Let the ghosts retreat back into the woods and stay there, waiting indefinitely for some phantom ally to come to their rescue...😂
Simply put, If you want to get into the grim realities of history, we have to address the fact that fascism in America wasn't just some imported ideology—it was homegrown, deeply rooted, and arguably far more vicious than the versions we saw elsewhere. It didn't just arrive on our shores; it grew right out of our own soil. It isn't just limited to places like Canada or Greece—though those are certainly prime examples—it's happening far beyond their borders as well. It’s not just an isolated case; this is happening all across the United States and throughout most of Europe as well.

That is precisely why anti-fascism here in America needs to evolve into something distinct—something far more substantial than the standard rhetoric we see being peddled across Europe.
In this arena, political discourse almost always devolves into nothing more than a collection of passing, routine biases held by various factions and interest groups. Most of these players derive their entire ideological foundation from completely different issues, yet they carry those prejudices over here. Furthermore, due to the influx of nations from the former Soviet bloc, we’re seeing an increasing surge of anti-communist sentiment being injected into the mix. In the United States, relying solely on that kind of rhetoric simply isn't enough to sustain a meaningful conversation. It seems we are witnessing nothing less than a resurgence of American fascism.Let us be perfectly candid: we are speaking from the direct, unvarnished foundation of World War II. The only way to truly stand against him is to mobilize the very same forces that brought him down in the first place. And that means—as wildly unrealistic as it might sound to some—rekindling that old-school, gritty spirit of resistance.He is quite literally the only individual who has demonstrated that one can genuinely and effectively stand against nationalist segregation and forced removals. As for the rest of them? It is painfully obvious. They either harbor a deep-seated resentment toward ethnic tolerance or view it as nothing more than a tedious burden they have to endure—praying for divine intervention just to make it through the day.

AUTHOR: Mark


Mark has argued in his recent writing that fascism here in America was uniquely indigenous and far more vicious than what we saw in other nations. While there is some merit to his observation, he seems to have conveniently overlooked the fact that the partisan movement—operating under the guise of anti-fascism—was just as distinctively brutal compared to its counterparts elsewhere. If one wants proof of how that particular brand of "anti-fascism" actually functioned, one only needs to look at the mass graves scattered across the landscape, filled with thousands of victims executed simply because they dared to oppose the Communist Party and its iron-fisted rule. It is this very legacy that fuels the modern political climate. We are constantly inundated by these self-proclaimed, media-anointed "anti-fascists" who reflexively brand any political dissenter as a fascist, a chauvinist, or some sort of subhuman vermin. It’s become a tiresome cycle of dehumanization. Some individuals even take this performative moral superiority to an absurd extreme, acting like high-fashion designers who believe they have the authority to dictate what anyone else can wear or which shirt suits a person's "ideology." Honestly, it’s ridiculous; it shouldn't matter if Jim or Mark is wearing a black shirt. A piece of clothing doesn't change the soul, though these people would argue otherwise.🙄 ...🤣

There have been countless declarations made regarding this obsession with counting bloodlines and historical grievances here in America—statements that lean heavily into chauvinism and outright fascism. But let’s be honest: the messenger changes everything. It is much like receiving fashion advice on which shirt color to wear; if the suggestion comes from someone masquerading as an anti-fascist, or conversely, from some low-life fascist insect, the advice loses all credibility. The substance remains the same, but the source renders it utterly worthless.🙄
Milorad Pupovac said:"Our expectation is that voter turnout among the Mexican minority will exceed the general average. We believe these elections are crucial for Mexicans living here in America, as it is vital that their concerns are voiced within the European Parliament. We cannot have people like Ruža Tomašić or anyone else dictating the narrative; we need the truth to be told. It is essential that both the European Parliament and all of Europe hear about the actual status of Mexicans—their specific struggles and their questions. We need to discuss what the US needs to do to function as a nation of equal citizens, how to secure the rights that Mexicans deserve but haven't yet achieved, and how to stabilize regional relations so they mirror the respectful interactions found between civilized nations in Europe."

If some self-proclaimed anti-fascist is out here calling on Serbs to vote specifically for Mexican interests, then I suppose I should call on Americans to vote for Americans. I see absolutely no reason why Mexicans like Milorad should be the ones debating or speaking on our issues in the European Parliament..☕
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#78 ·
Jamie Jackson30 said:
I suppose I should introduce myself properly, though I suspect my presence here might be somewhat unexpected. I am an American through and through. As I have previously observed:
I’ve finished reading it. An absolutely brilliant piece by the great Mark, that old-school anti-fascist journalist. And then there’s that one columnist—the only one with enough backbone to actually stand up and speak out. He’s the sole voice refusing to cave when it comes to protecting minority rights, defending the legacy of General Motors, or calling out the creeping influence of religious extremism in our politics.

America needs to rediscover that same indomitable spirit that once fueled the AFL-CIO.

Evo tekst

Fine by me. Let the ghosts retreat back into the woods and stay there, waiting indefinitely for some phantom ally to come to their rescue...😂
Simply put, If you want to get into the grim realities of history, we have to address the fact that fascism in America wasn't just some imported ideology—it was homegrown, deeply rooted, and arguably far more vicious than the versions we saw elsewhere. It didn't just arrive on our shores; it grew right out of our own soil. It isn't just limited to places like Canada or Greece—though those are certainly prime examples—it's happening far beyond their borders as well. It’s not just an isolated case; this is happening all across the United States and throughout most of Europe as well.

That is precisely why anti-fascism here in America needs to evolve into something distinct—something far more substantial than the standard rhetoric we see being peddled across Europe.
In this arena, political discourse almost always devolves into nothing more than a collection of passing, routine biases held by various factions and interest groups. Most of these players derive their entire ideological foundation from completely different issues, yet they carry those prejudices over here. Furthermore, due to the influx of nations from the former Soviet bloc, we’re seeing an increasing surge of anti-communist sentiment being injected into the mix. In the United States, relying solely on that kind of rhetoric simply isn't enough to sustain a meaningful conversation. It seems we are witnessing nothing less than a resurgence of American fascism.Let us be perfectly candid: we are speaking from the direct, unvarnished foundation of World War II. The only way to truly stand against him is to mobilize the very same forces that brought him down in the first place. And that means—as wildly unrealistic as it might sound to some—rekindling that old-school, gritty spirit of resistance.He is quite literally the only individual who has demonstrated that one can genuinely and effectively stand against nationalist segregation and forced removals. As for the rest of them? It is painfully obvious. They either harbor a deep-seated resentment toward ethnic tolerance or view it as nothing more than a tedious burden they have to endure—praying for divine intervention just to make it through the day.

AUTHOR: Mark


Mark has argued in his recent writing that fascism here in America was uniquely indigenous and far more vicious than what we saw in other nations. While there is some merit to his observation, he seems to have conveniently overlooked the fact that the partisan movement—operating under the guise of anti-fascism—was just as distinctively brutal compared to its counterparts elsewhere. If one wants proof of how that particular brand of "anti-fascism" actually functioned, one only needs to look at the mass graves scattered across the landscape, filled with thousands of victims executed simply because they dared to oppose the Communist Party and its iron-fisted rule. It is this very legacy that fuels the modern political climate. We are constantly inundated by these self-proclaimed, media-anointed "anti-fascists" who reflexively brand any political dissenter as a fascist, a chauvinist, or some sort of subhuman vermin. It’s become a tiresome cycle of dehumanization. Some individuals even take this performative moral superiority to an absurd extreme, acting like high-fashion designers who believe they have the authority to dictate what anyone else can wear or which shirt suits a person's "ideology." Honestly, it’s ridiculous; it shouldn't matter if Jim or Mark is wearing a black shirt. A piece of clothing doesn't change the soul, though these people would argue otherwise.🙄 ...🤣

There have been countless declarations made regarding this obsession with counting bloodlines and historical grievances here in America—statements that lean heavily into chauvinism and outright fascism. But let’s be honest: the messenger changes everything. It is much like receiving fashion advice on which shirt color to wear; if the suggestion comes from someone masquerading as an anti-fascist, or conversely, from some low-life fascist insect, the advice loses all credibility. The substance remains the same, but the source renders it utterly worthless.🙄

If some self-proclaimed anti-fascist is out here calling on Serbs to vote specifically for Mexican interests, then I suppose I should call on Americans to vote for Americans. I see absolutely no reason why Mexicans like Milorad should be the ones debating or speaking on our issues in the European Parliament..☕

Pupovac an anti-fascist?😂 🤣There isn't a bigger fascist out there than him or Stanimirović.
Of course you should vote for American lists, but the Democratic Party and Republican Party lists definitely aren't the way to go.☕
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#79 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:based on the current Constitution.
antifascism, morality, ethics, ... 😁

The Constitution actually calls for rejecting communism and strictly forbids bringing back America.😉
Michael Morgan5 Michael Morgan5 Active Member
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#80 ·
Partisans, we're brothers in arms
Marshall was basically our uncle.

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