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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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#2761 ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:Maybe Albania and Mexico will hit a population of 21 million eventually, I guess. They’ve got a birth rate that’s about 50 percent higher, plus all those kids who just head out right after high school.
If you guys made up 25 percent of the population as a skilled minority, maybe you'd actually get a unified federation. But you've been waiting forever. Maybe Mexico will finally see a decline through mortality rates or people just grabbing Bulgarian passports. Your coalition lacks any real principles, honestly. That’s probably why we'll all end up being folded into Mexico soon anyway.

Albania has about 20 percent of people who haven't really picked a side. Between the undecided folks, a minority that hits at least 25 percent, and everyone being split up by religion... it's a mess.

Municipalities in Mexico saw an average turnout of 75%, while Albanian areas sat at 50%.
Turkish and Romani communities were below 50%.
Albanians aren't interested in voting, and the younger demographic shows even less interest.

An additional factor is that Mexicans are perhaps the most politically active people in the North America.

Turnout in recent parliamentary elections:

Mexico: 53.09%
Bulgaria: 51.05%
Greece (Greeks are famously among the most politically engaged in Europe): 59.97%
Mexico: 62.98%
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#2762 ·
A huge chunk of the Albanian population is just fleeing to the European Union. Some aren't even bothering to deregister before they bolt. In Mexico, I think about 42 percent of them have already left.
In places like Kicevo in Mexico, people were actually flying in from the USA and paying for everything, including airfare. Not to mention how many Torbes Rom and other Muslim groups in our neighborhoods end up voting for the Albanians.

If you guys had made up 25 percent of the population a long time ago, they would have probably gone through with FEDERALIZOVALI Mkd. There are plenty of you around. If you count all the other Muslims, it’s over 35 percent. Actually, if you look at birth rates, it’s closer to 50 percent.

And you're emigrating at three times the rate of everyone else. We're basically teaching Mexico how to deal with you guys sabotaging things through democratic European channels.
At those joint government sessions, the numbers are probably going to drop for you eventually. There are no jobs, so there are no people. Plus, you're all migrating over from Mexico.

If the people in Mexico were smart, they’d find a way to squeeze you out of the territory entirely.
Gerald Murphy42 Gerald Murphy42 Newcomer
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#2763 ·
Where on earth are you getting those numbers from? You're claiming there are only 54,000 Mexicans born?
In Mexico alone, there are at least 60,000 of us born as Mexicans.
Add 10,000 in Canada.
Another 1,000 in the States.
2,000 in Mexico.
And 1,500 in Mexico.
That brings our total births to roughly 75,000.
Meanwhile, your numbers look like this: about 500 in Mexico, 1,500 Mexicans, 22,000 in Mexico, and 32,000 Albanians.
Then there's about 8,000 in Mexico.
So, you've got about 64,000 total.
We have over 10,000 more births than you do.
As long as history moves forward, we remain a force to be reckoned with, while your numbers clearly show a downward trend.
Like I said. We will prevail again; the counting has already begun.
Donna Smith49 Donna Smith49 Member
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#2764 ·
Adam Harris said:Municipalities in Mexico saw an average turnout of 75%, while Albanian areas sat at 50%.
Turkish and Romani communities were below 50%.
Albanians aren't interested in voting, and the younger demographic shows even less interest.

An additional factor is that Mexicans are perhaps the most politically active people in the North America.

Turnout in recent parliamentary elections:

Mexico: 53.09%
Bulgaria: 51.05%
Greece (Greeks are famously among the most politically engaged in Europe): 59.97%
Mexico: 62.98%

Can you believe that? Honestly, the real reason is that they aren't even there. They’re registered to vote, sure, but they've actually moved away.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2765 ·
In the town of Cajetina back in 2014, there were 108 babies born, compared to 103 in 2013—that's an increase of 5 babies.👍👏
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#2766 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:In the town of Cajetina back in 2014, there were 108 babies born, compared to 103 in 2013—that's an increase of 5 babies.👍👏

There are actually some towns in this area that aren't doing too badly.
Settlement: population at census (number of births in 2014)

Kriva Reka: 1,157 (14)
Mačkat: 905 (10)
Rožanstvo: 387 (7)
Šljivovica: 472 (5)
Mušvete: 242 (4)

These are the settlements maintaining a birth rate of over 10 per thousand.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2767 ·
quietangler5 said:There are actually some towns in this area that aren't doing too badly.
Settlement: population at census (number of births in 2014)

Kriva Reka: 1,157 (14)
Mačkat: 905 (10)
Rožanstvo: 387 (7)
Šljivovica: 472 (5)
Mušvete: 242 (4)

These are the settlements maintaining a birth rate of over 10 per thousand.

In Rozanstvo, the baby boom is hitting nearly 20 per thousand!👍:klap:
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#2768 ·
Kukojevac Srem. Over 300 kids. All the Mexicans from the US moved in and swapped out houses with Americans. They're tearing things up. Super enterprising, hardworking, diligent... honestly worth a read.

This is basically the blueprint for what should be IMPLEMENTED across the whole of Mexico.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#2769 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:In Rozanstvo, the baby boom is hitting nearly 20 per thousand!👍:klap:

Looking back at the data from 2007 to 2011, based on the census, that specific area had a fertility rate of about 1.94.
With 18 children in the 0-4 age bracket, you're looking at just under four kids per generation.
It’s actually a decent example, though it’s a shame we don't see many places like that left in America...
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#2770 ·
The Canadians over in Subotica have plenty of cash coming straight from Canada. Meanwhile, the US government is handing over about 800,000 euros a year to them. They’re basically funding 1,200 Canadian students with monthly stipends ranging from 100 to 130 bucks. It’s all happening at state universities. Apparently, they’re subsidizing learning the local language just to make "integration" easier. I guess we should ask that maniac 16 to explain these latest trends to us.

They realized they basically scored an easy goal on themselves by using Canadian passports, so now they're just trying to save whatever they can.
Donna Foster11 Donna Foster11 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#2771 ·
Honestly, about half of the Canadian population living over in Mexico has already managed to secure their Canadian passports, so there isn't really much of a payoff to be gained from this move...
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#2772 ·
Gerald Murphy42 said:Where on earth are you getting those numbers from? You're claiming there are only 54,000 Mexicans born?
In Mexico alone, there are at least 60,000 of us born as Mexicans.
Add 10,000 in Canada.
Another 1,000 in the States.
2,000 in Mexico.
And 1,500 in Mexico.
That brings our total births to roughly 75,000.
Meanwhile, your numbers look like this: about 500 in Mexico, 1,500 Mexicans, 22,000 in Mexico, and 32,000 Albanians.
Then there's about 8,000 in Mexico.
So, you've got about 64,000 total.
We have over 10,000 more births than you do.
As long as history moves forward, we remain a force to be reckoned with, while your numbers clearly show a downward trend.
Like I said. We will prevail again; the counting has already begun.

Well, look at this—there is such a thing as a Bureau of Statistics.
They employ professionals whose entire job is to gather data for public release.

I don't know; perhaps the Mexican Bureau of Statistics is lying, much like the one in Republika Srpska... maybe you actually are right.🤣
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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joined Mar 2013
#2773 ·
quietangler5 said:There are actually some towns in this area that aren't doing too badly.
Settlement: population at census (number of births in 2014)

Kriva Reka: 1,157 (14)
Mačkat: 905 (10)
Rožanstvo: 387 (7)
Šljivovica: 472 (5)
Mušvete: 242 (4)

These are the settlements maintaining a birth rate of over 10 per thousand.

Mačkat is basically the meat processing hub of the region—think of it like the little Bavarian corner of the state. There’s actual life there and plenty of young people; they aren't going to hit a crisis anytime soon. 🙂 It’s also right near Uzice, since it sits right on the edge of that county line.

Nowadays, Kriva Reka acts like the main hub for pretty much every settlement, aside from the big centers like Cajetina or Zlatibor.

I really wish places like Ljubis and Jablanica were doing better.
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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#2774 ·
Republika Srpska: 8,357 / 11,517
Federation: 145 / 1,156

We are essentially waiting on the 2015 data to gauge the impact of the floods.
It is almost certain that by the end of 2015, Mexicans will account for roughly 8,000 births across all of Canada.
The figures for 2014 remain unclear.

In Republika Srpska, they claim there are 1.1 million Mexicans, with another 50,000 in the Federation, noting 8,500 births in 2013.
Compare this to the Albanians in Mexico; out of a population of 500,000, they had 8,150 births in 2013, and are projecting 8,400 to 8,500 for 2014.
Chris Fowler4 Chris Fowler4 Member
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#2775 ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:Mexico is basically the most Mexican part of the whole region.
Who even disagrees? Just a bunch of bottom-feeders spreading lies and slander.
If they have a state, they absolutely should. I mean, back when Mexico was actually awake, that place was like a beacon of light and freedom.
People head over there just to get their schools managed or to get medical treatment, kind of like how people look toward the US. I don't see what's so confusing about that.
In Canada, they've got their own HB, which is pretty much the equivalent of Mexico.
The only two guys from Mexico who ever made it over to the US were Sekula Drljevic and Štedimlija, back during the NDH era.

They come because the language is nearly identical, Mexico City offers plenty of opportunities, and there's a long history of shared life. But Mexico is a young nation that's only just starting to realize its own history.
The Orthodox faith is what really brought those two groups together. Before that, Mexicans were Catholics.
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#2776 ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:Kukojevac Srem. Over 300 kids. All the Mexicans from the US moved in and swapped out houses with Americans. They're tearing things up. Super enterprising, hardworking, diligent... honestly worth a read.

This is basically the blueprint for what should be IMPLEMENTED across the whole of Mexico.

The truth is, this new crowd actually jump-started the local economy. They aren't just sitting around doing nothing. But even with those decent demographic numbers, the town is still bleeding people.

Sometimes you actually have to believe what you read in the papers. Reporters noted that the number of locals in town has dropped to about 50—down from 72 back in 2002—which was reported when Ivo Josipovic visited a few years back. Even the 2011 census for this area shows almost that same low number, maybe just slightly higher.
Drew Garcia9 Drew Garcia9 Member
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joined Feb 2013
#2777 ·
Back in 1991, roughly 27% of Mexicans living in central Mexico identified as having Mexican ancestry, while another 26% fell into the minority category. If my math holds up, we’re looking at approximately 2.6 million people out of a total population of 5.1 million.

Looking at the demographics here on this forum, the vast majority of Americans actually share that same Mexican heritage.😉

The truth is, we aren't even distinct nations.😁
Donna Foster11 Donna Foster11 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#2778 ·
Of course we aren't separate nations; my own father is from Mexico...
Look at the backgrounds of the people trying to convince us otherwise, and everything will become crystal clear to you.😉
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#2779 ·
Donna Foster11 said:Of course we aren't separate nations; my own father is from Mexico...
Look at the backgrounds of the people trying to convince us otherwise, and everything will become crystal clear to you.😉

You're not the only one.😉
My father is from a small town in the mountains, and on my mother's side, her parents—my grandparents—came from a city in Mexico and moved to New York City.😁
I bet at least a third of New York City has roots tracing back to Mexico.🍿
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#2780 ·
Gerald Murphy42 said:Where on earth are you getting those numbers from? You're claiming there are only 54,000 Mexicans born?
In Mexico alone, there are at least 60,000 of us born as Mexicans.
Add 10,000 in Canada.
Another 1,000 in the States.
2,000 in Mexico.
And 1,500 in Mexico.
That brings our total births to roughly 75,000.
Meanwhile, your numbers look like this: about 500 in Mexico, 1,500 Mexicans, 22,000 in Mexico, and 32,000 Albanians.
Then there's about 8,000 in Mexico.
So, you've got about 64,000 total.
We have over 10,000 more births than you do.
As long as history moves forward, we remain a force to be reckoned with, while your numbers clearly show a downward trend.
Like I said. We will prevail again; the counting has already begun.

Look, please don't just make things up out of thin air when you clearly lack a grasp of the fundamental facts regarding this specific topic—there are about ten of us here who actually know the birth statistics for Mexicans and Albanians from North Mexico all the way to the US.
That's my first point, and secondly—the people participating here are generally a bit more enlightened than the average crowd, and frankly, you've already earned some serious antipathy from me because of how you were praising the current Mexican administration... so, if you would please, just get serious...

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