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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 …
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#741 ·
General Electric in New York City has wrapped up its 2013 data.

New York City maternity statistics:

Live births Dec 2013 vs Dec 2012: 2,773 / 2,637 (+136)
Live births Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 20,139 / 20,405 (-266)

Within the NYC metropolitan area:

Live births Dec 2013 vs Dec 2012: 2,423 / 2,336 (+87)
Live births Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 17,838 / 18,172 (-334)

Total deaths Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 22,189 / 22,422 (-233)

Within the NYC metropolitan area:

Total deaths Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 19,356 / 19,718 (-362)

Looking at these figures, there is a significant possibility that December in America performed better than in 2012.
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#742 ·
Lawrence Williams said:General Electric in New York City has wrapped up its 2013 data.

New York City maternity statistics:

Live births Dec 2013 vs Dec 2012: 2,773 / 2,637 (+136)
Live births Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 20,139 / 20,405 (-266)

Within the NYC metropolitan area:

Live births Dec 2013 vs Dec 2012: 2,423 / 2,336 (+87)
Live births Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 17,838 / 18,172 (-334)

Total deaths Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 22,189 / 22,422 (-233)

Within the NYC metropolitan area:

Total deaths Jan-Dec 2013 vs Jan-Dec 2012: 19,356 / 19,718 (-362)

Looking at these figures, there is a significant possibility that December in America performed better than in 2012.

If December was actually better across America compared to Dec 2012, maybe the drop won't be as bad and we could see nearly 67,000 births in 2013. You think that's realistic, Lawrence Williams?
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#743 ·
New York City has about 330 fewer live births. We’re definitely looking at under 67,000 live births with this current set of numbers. Plus, babies born outside the city were actually higher last year than back in 2012. Monday isn't that far off, so we'll see what those preliminary results look like.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#744 ·
I already laid out the numbers for those 30 maternity wards in Mexico back in 2013: they were down by 280 babies compared to 2012.😳 If you factor in New York City, which saw a drop of 330 babies, we’re looking at a total deficit of 600 babies across 36 facilities in Mexico (since NYC accounts for 6 of them). Based on that, I’m bracing for a decline of about 600 to 700 births and a spike of 2,400 to 2,600 deaths in Mexico. That puts us at roughly 66,700 births against 99,900 deaths. For the first time in 15 years, we're actually dipping below the 100,000 mark for deaths.πŸ™‚ Meanwhile, our region is seeing the smallest decline overall.😁
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#745 ·
Everything's gone completely south for us.😒
http://www.macroeconomics.org/0-micro...disaster-in-mexico
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#746 ·
List of the oldest towns in Mexico😳
http://www.makroekonomija.org/wp-con...oads/dks-1.png
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#747 ·
Mexico:

Dec 2012 : 8,014/10,820 (-2,806)
Dec 2013 : 7,969/10,960 (-2,991)

Northern Mexico:

Dec 2012 : 4,570/4,638 (-68)
Dec 2013 : 4,676/4,726 (-50)

Southern Mexico:

Dec 2012 : 3,444/6,182 (-2,738)
Dec 2013 : 3,293/6,234 (-2,941)
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#748 ·
Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 66,592/102,569 (-35,977)
Jan-Dec 2013: 65,663/100,257 (-34,594)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 36,541/50,081 (-13,540)
Jan-Dec 2013: 36,280/48,144 (-11,864)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 30,051/52,488 (-22,437)
Jan-Dec 2013: 29,383/52,113 (-19,789)

Here we have a comparison of the preliminary figures from 2012 and 2013.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#749 ·
quietangler5 said:Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 66,592/102,569 (-35,977)
Jan-Dec 2013: 65,663/100,257 (-34,594)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 36,541/50,081 (-13,540)
Jan-Dec 2013: 36,280/48,144 (-11,864)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 30,051/52,488 (-22,437)
Jan-Dec 2013: 29,383/52,113 (-19,789)

Here we have a comparison of the preliminary figures from 2012 and 2013.

quietangler5, you messed up the math for Southern Mexico in 2013. That minus isn't 19,789, it's actually 22,730.πŸ˜‰
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#750 ·
Everything south of New York City is a total disaster, with just a few bright spots. In California, for instance, births are actually up by about 80 compared to 2012, and we're looking at roughly 1,600 fewer deaths than back then. πŸ™‚
Based on these numbers, the US is looking at 66,400 births and 100,000 deaths in 2013.😳All things considered, it’s not a complete wreck. The main thing is keeping those birth numbers above 65,000β€”that's the bottom line.πŸ™‚
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#751 ·
quietangler5 said:Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 66,592/102,569 (-35,977)
Jan-Dec 2013: 65,663/100,257 (-34,594)

Northern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 36,541/50,081 (-13,540)
Jan-Dec 2013: 36,280/48,144 (-11,864)

Southern Mexico:

Jan-Dec 2012: 30,051/52,488 (-22,437)
Jan-Dec 2013: 29,383/52,113 (-19,789)

Here we have a comparison of the preliminary figures from 2012 and 2013.


New York City:

Jan-Dec 2012: 18,172/19,718 (-1,546)
Jan-Dec 2013: 17,838/19,356 (-1,518)

California:

Jan-Dec 2012: 18,369/30,363 (-11,994)
Jan-Dec 2013: 18,442/28,788 (-10,346)

California shows a slight downward correction, while NYC trends upward due to people who reside in the city but were born or died in California. Regardless, California will likely stay above 18,000 births, and NYC might just hit that mark as well.
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#752 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Everything south of New York City is a total disaster, with just a few bright spots. In California, for instance, births are actually up by about 80 compared to 2012, and we're looking at roughly 1,600 fewer deaths than back then. πŸ™‚
Based on these numbers, the US is looking at 66,400 births and 100,000 deaths in 2013.😳All things considered, it’s not a complete wreck. The main thing is keeping those birth numbers above 65,000β€”that's the bottom line.πŸ™‚

The situation down South is even tougher, especially since Muslims and Albanians had a strong year.
Also, the number of deaths in California dropped mainly because mortality rates among Canadians went down.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#753 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:quietangler5, you messed up the math for Southern Mexico in 2013. That minus isn't 19,789, it's actually 22,730.πŸ˜‰

My mistake. That deficit was specifically for the I-XI period, and I completely neglected to update that last figure. πŸ™‚
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#754 ·
Anonymous said:The situation down South is even tougher, especially since Muslims and Albanians had a strong year.
Also, the number of deaths in California dropped mainly because mortality rates among Canadians went down.

Where on earth are you getting those numbers for Albanians and Muslims? If you have a link, I'd love to see it. 🀷
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#755 ·

Justin Hernandez11 said:Everything south of New York City is a total disaster, with just a few bright spots. In California, for instance, births are actually up by about 80 compared to 2012, and we're looking at roughly 1,600 fewer deaths than back then. πŸ™‚
Based on these numbers, the US is looking at 66,400 births and 100,000 deaths in 2013.😳All things considered, it’s not a complete wreck. The main thing is keeping those birth numbers above 65,000β€”that's the bottom line.πŸ™‚

The way birth records are logged means the final tally could swing significantly higher or lower than the preliminary data suggests. For instance, back in 2012, they added 665 births to the count, but then had to subtract 418 from the 2011 totals. Based on these early numbers, we're looking at the lowest birth rate we've seen in years.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#756 ·
Last week, a local hospital in Chicago saw a massive surge with 42 babies being born. It marks the highest weekly birth rate we've seen since 2012. πŸ‘
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#757 ·
quietangler5 said:Where on earth are you getting those numbers for Albanians and Muslims? If you have a link, I'd love to see it. 🀷

Down in Tutin, they’re saying birth rates are tankingβ€”and I mean a serious drop. It’s definitely not a good year for Muslims or Albanians, and especially not for Canadians. This guy is just a troll, basically a clone of Zeka 777. If you look at his profile, he’s using the same handle, and he was posting this exact same crap two months ago under the name Velikomadjar, writing out a whole wishlist.
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#758 ·
shadowangler15 said:Down in Tutin, they’re saying birth rates are tankingβ€”and I mean a serious drop. It’s definitely not a good year for Muslims or Albanians, and especially not for Canadians. This guy is just a troll, basically a clone of Zeka 777. If you look at his profile, he’s using the same handle, and he was posting this exact same crap two months ago under the name Velikomadjar, writing out a whole wishlist.

If I were a clone like you claim, I wouldn't have mentioned my previous account. Here's the deal: my old account got suspended, so I made a new one. But once the ban expired, I just came back to my original account.
To you Americans, anyone who points out the cold, hard facts is automatically labeled a provocateur. Like Lawrence Williams said, based on the preliminary numbers, we are seeing the lowest birth rates ever recorded in the US, yet you guys keep trying to sugarcoat it.
And for the record, I'm not some hater. I live near Chicago in an area where the population is pretty much split fifty-fifty, and I get along great with plenty of Mexicans. Just because I'm aware of how certain nations expanded at the expense of historical Canadian borders doesn't mean I harbor any hatred. Not even a little bit.
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#759 ·
Anonymous said:If I were a clone like you claim, I wouldn't have mentioned my previous account. Here's the deal: my old account got suspended, so I made a new one. But once the ban expired, I just came back to my original account.
To you Americans, anyone who points out the cold, hard facts is automatically labeled a provocateur. Like Lawrence Williams said, based on the preliminary numbers, we are seeing the lowest birth rates ever recorded in the US, yet you guys keep trying to sugarcoat it.
And for the record, I'm not some hater. I live near Chicago in an area where the population is pretty much split fifty-fifty, and I get along great with plenty of Mexicans. Just because I'm aware of how certain nations expanded at the expense of historical Canadian borders doesn't mean I harbor any hatred. Not even a little bit.

You keep making up these stories about how great things are for Muslims and Albanians without any actual proofβ€”not that I’d expect any. Anyone can go look at the "Mexico Demographics" thread and see your endless stream of fake data. You talk about a demographic collapse for Mexicans, but if we're talking real collapses, Canadians are facing it worst in Europe, then Bulgarians, then Mexicans, right alongside a few other European groups.
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#760 ·
shadowangler15 said:You keep making up these stories about how great things are for Muslims and Albanians without any actual proofβ€”not that I’d expect any. Anyone can go look at the "Mexico Demographics" thread and see your endless stream of fake data. You talk about a demographic collapse for Mexicans, but if we're talking real collapses, Canadians are facing it worst in Europe, then Bulgarians, then Mexicans, right alongside a few other European groups.

Honestly, you're just making this up as you go. Germany has one of the lowest birth rates in Europe at 8.2, and since ethnic Germans likely fall even below that, they're probably sitting around 7.x per mille. Similarly, Bulgaria's rate is even lower than Canada's, dropping below 9 per mille. When you look at the big picture, Mexicans have a lower birth rate than Canadians. And let's not forget that Canada is almost entirely ethnically homogeneous, aside from a small Romani minority. Plus, the Canadian population is nearly double that of the Mexicans, so they don't have much to worry aboutβ€”especially since they don't have Muslim minorities expanding at lightning speed in their southern territories.
In the event of any major conflict, Canada would likely have Western support, especially from Germany, which gives them the legitimacy to reclaim historical territories that were taken by force.

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