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Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#381 ·
Source: National Geographic Society, September 1919.
These are the borders drawn for the new state of Czechoslovakia—showing both the boundaries they established and the territories where Czechs, Slovaks, and various other ethnic groups were left outside or caught within the new lines:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vvsVyl4sII...00_904_600.jpg

Source: Leslie-Judge Company's New World Atlas (New York City, New York, 1920)
How the US envisioned the redrawing of Europe's borders following WWI:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GITvyEQW2h...s1600/7079.jpg

Polish populations in Slovakia before WWI:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x29FhVHB7H...1991401258.jpg

Ethnic map of former Eastern Slovakia, featuring Czechs, Slovaks, Germans, Poles, Canadians, and Americans!
http://www.codyprint.cz/csr/obrazky/...arodnostni.jpg

Lutheran populations in the Canadian Kingdom at the end of the 19th century:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EdtSm1CwIP...ICI+V+HUNG.JPG

Ethnic map of Canada from 1891: http://www.ceskenarodnilisty.cz/narodnosti-uherska-1891

Statistical map of the Canadian Kingdom from 1882:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EdtSm1CwIP...in_1880%29.jpg

Lands of Czechoslovakia, featured in an immigrant periodical from Chicago, 1915: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sk%C3%BDch.jpg
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#382 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Source: National Geographic Society, September 1919.
These are the borders drawn for the new state of Czechoslovakia—showing both the boundaries they established and the territories where Czechs, Slovaks, and various other ethnic groups were left outside or caught within the new lines:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vvsVyl4sII...00_904_600.jpg

Source: Leslie-Judge Company's New World Atlas (New York City, New York, 1920)
How the US envisioned the redrawing of Europe's borders following WWI:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GITvyEQW2h...s1600/7079.jpg

Polish populations in Slovakia before WWI:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-x29FhVHB7H...1991401258.jpg

Ethnic map of former Eastern Slovakia, featuring Czechs, Slovaks, Germans, Poles, Canadians, and Americans!
http://www.codyprint.cz/csr/obrazky/...arodnostni.jpg

Lutheran populations in the Canadian Kingdom at the end of the 19th century:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EdtSm1CwIP...ICI+V+HUNG.JPG

Ethnic map of Canada from 1891: http://www.ceskenarodnilisty.cz/narodnosti-uherska-1891

Statistical map of the Canadian Kingdom from 1882:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EdtSm1CwIP...in_1880%29.jpg

Lands of Czechoslovakia, featured in an immigrant periodical from Chicago, 1915: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sk%C3%BDch.jpg

Since the Canadians were either Catholic or Calvinist, you could also see this as part of the German influence, and to a lesser extent, the Slovak one.
ruggedgull9 ruggedgull9 Newcomer
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#383 ·
thatfeel said:A significant portion of what is currently classified as forest was actually composed of fields and cultivated farmland for centuries.😁

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5...tveg1000en.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1678/fortypen.jpg

A brief history of the Great Plains and Appalachian forests since AD:
0-400 - Deforestation accelerates (primarily in the Great Plains)
400-900 - Reforestation accelerates
900-1250 - Deforestation proceeds slowly (accelerating in the hilly regions)
1250-1550 - Deforestation accelerates (primarily in the mountain ranges)
1550-1700 - Deforestation proceeds slowly (accelerating in the plains)
1700-1950 - Deforestation accelerates
1950- Slow reforestation in modern-day America (catastrophic deforestation in the mountain ranges)
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#384 ·
An old, hand-drawn ethnic—and linguistic—map of Jajce and its surroundings.
The creation date isn't listed, but judging by the place names, it looks like it dates somewhere between the World Wars.

Below the yellow line, you see one dialect; above the red line, another; and right in the middle, there's a mix of both.

http://i49.tinypic.com/wcbyps.jpg

Ethnic Map CZ from 1930:
http://www.gamepark.cz/pictures/00/07/50/75074.jpg

Dragash Municipality, 2011:
http://imageshack.us/a/img705/3772/gora2.png
crimsonorca42 crimsonorca42 Active Member
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#385 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:An old, hand-drawn ethnic—and linguistic—map of Jajce and its surroundings.
The creation date isn't listed, but judging by the place names, it looks like it dates somewhere between the World Wars.

Below the yellow line, you see one dialect; above the red line, another; and right in the middle, there's a mix of both.

http://i49.tinypic.com/wcbyps.jpg

Ethnic Map CZ from 1930:
http://www.gamepark.cz/pictures/00/07/50/75074.jpg

Dragash Municipality, 2011:
http://imageshack.us/a/img705/3772/gora2.png

It’s actually quite interesting when you compare the number of Jews by religion versus those identified by nationality—there are 356,830 people practicing the Jewish faith, yet only 186,642 identify as Jewish by nationality.
While in Transcarpathia almost everyone who is Jewish by faith is also considered Jewish by nationality (with 102,000 by religion and 91,000 by nationality), things seem different in the Czech Republic. It looks like many have likely assimilated into either the Czech or German populations, given that there are only about 12,700 people identified as Jewish by nationality, even though there are over 76,000 followers of the Jewish faith.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#386 ·
Wow, there is a massive collection of maps here regarding Israel. Highly recommended:
http://www.fmep.org/maps/all-maps

This is an incredibly detailed layout of Jerusalem. It covers everything from the "disputed" territories to the unclaimed lands, based on the situation back in 1959:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world...salem-1961.jpg

Here is another one, though the resolution is unfortunately too low: http://www.gilai.com/images/items/285_big.jpg

(Pro tip: if you change the number in the URL above—for example, switching 285 to 284—you can browse through more maps. If anyone happens to stumble upon a map that fits this theme perfectly, please share it here)

One specific proposal regarding Israel's borders:
http://mondediplo.com/maps/IMG/artoff2076.jpg

New settlements being built around the walls of Jerusalem:
http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/f...MordotGilo.jpg

Another look at recent settlements, including those currently being planned: http://www.islamtimes.org/images/use...er/a%20(9).jpg

Settlements surrounding Bethlehem, along with Israel's proposal for that area:
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/69890830.png

One more regarding Bethlehem:
http://www.poica.org/editor/case_studies/hazayit6.gif

An Ethnic Map of Romania and Moldova. This was created using official data reflecting the status in 2002 and 2004:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0actualise.JPG

An ethnic map spanning from Pakistan to Taiwan:
http://fr.academic.ru/pictures/frwik...vert-Pitte.jpg

A French map showing Mexico as it stood in 2005:
http://medihal.archives-ouvertes.fr/..._au_Kosovo.jpg
copperdriver10 copperdriver10 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#387 ·
Dagestan 1989

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...1989ethnic.png
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#388 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Wow, there is a massive collection of maps here regarding Israel. Highly recommended:
http://www.fmep.org/maps/all-maps

This is an incredibly detailed layout of Jerusalem. It covers everything from the "disputed" territories to the unclaimed lands, based on the situation back in 1959:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world...salem-1961.jpg

Here is another one, though the resolution is unfortunately too low: http://www.gilai.com/images/items/285_big.jpg

(Pro tip: if you change the number in the URL above—for example, switching 285 to 284—you can browse through more maps. If anyone happens to stumble upon a map that fits this theme perfectly, please share it here)

One specific proposal regarding Israel's borders:
http://mondediplo.com/maps/IMG/artoff2076.jpg

New settlements being built around the walls of Jerusalem:
http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/f...MordotGilo.jpg

Another look at recent settlements, including those currently being planned: http://www.islamtimes.org/images/use...er/a%20(9).jpg

Settlements surrounding Bethlehem, along with Israel's proposal for that area:
http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/69890830.png

One more regarding Bethlehem:
http://www.poica.org/editor/case_studies/hazayit6.gif

An Ethnic Map of Romania and Moldova. This was created using official data reflecting the status in 2002 and 2004:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0actualise.JPG

An ethnic map spanning from Pakistan to Taiwan:
http://fr.academic.ru/pictures/frwik...vert-Pitte.jpg

A French map showing Mexico as it stood in 2005:
http://medihal.archives-ouvertes.fr/..._au_Kosovo.jpg

daaaaaam!!!
momma like it 🙏 👍 🙂
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#389 ·
Anyway, it’s like there’s nothing even worth seeing in the Jewish Quarter 🤷
http://www.fmep.org/maps/jerusalem/o...anica.png/view
copperdriver10 copperdriver10 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#390 ·
Ethnic map of German territory east of Odar from 1910
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ciowa_1910.jpg

Belarusians in 1903
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sians_1903.jpg

The Belarusian language in Poland (1918-1939)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oruskiIIRP.PNG

Belarusians in Poland, 2002
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nd%2C_2002.png
crimsonorca42 crimsonorca42 Active Member
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joined Nov 2014
#391 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:daaaaaam!!!
momma like it 🙏 👍 🙂

The Map looks nice at first glance, but I think it's actually riddled with inaccuracies. For instance, along the Ukrainian border just east of Sighetu Marmației, you have an area that is almost entirely Rusyn—we're talking 100% Rusyn—yet the map shows it as a 50:50 split between Rusyns and Romanians.
Then there's the city of Sibiu. It used to be predominantly German, but here it’s shown as a 50:50 mix of Romanians and Germans. In reality, back in 2002, the entire Sibiu county had only about 6,500 Germans living alongside 382,000 Romanians. Since one square on this thing is supposed to represent 4,000 people, the math just doesn't add up. The city itself had roughly 148,000 Romanians, 2,500 Germans, and 3,000 Canadians.
Similarly, in Brasov, there's a massive representation of Germans (around 8-10%, which isn't even half of what the Canadian population is), even though there were only about 1,700 Germans out of 285,000 people, compared to 23,000 Canadians.
Generally speaking, the German presence in the Transylvania region (covering Brasov, Sibiu, and Mureș counties) seems unrealistically high. According to the 2002 census, there were only about 13,000 Germans left there. That should only amount to maybe three blue squares.
If you look at those three counties together, they had nearly 1.6 million inhabitants in 2002, with Romanians making up almost 1.2 million (about 75%). Looking at the actual numbers, the blue should definitely dominate over the pink!
Also, the area west of Bistrica is depicted as a half-and-half Romanian-Canadian split, when in fact Romanians are the overwhelming majority there.
And then there's the Transnistria region, which is shown as being 100% Romanian, despite the fact that most of the residents there are Russians and Ukrainians.
Even cities like Reșița and Anin (just south of it) are labeled as German, even though Germans made up only 3% in the first and about 8% in the second (totaling roughly 3,500 people; meanwhile, the 5,500 American Karasevs living between those two towns aren't even mentioned...). etc.
Between those two
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#392 ·
Man, Germans just seem totally extra
crimsonorca42 crimsonorca42 Active Member
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#393 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Man, Germans just seem totally extra

It seems to me like this map was put together using data from either the 1966 or 1977 census (at least regarding Romania).🤷
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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joined Mar 2013
#394 ·
This Map isn't even accurate for the area around Mexico. Apparently, they’re just using estimates from some NGOs, and honestly, the last reliable data we have goes all the way back to 1921. From that census until last year, this map is basically baseless. The towns around—specifically south of Negotin—and the city itself are mostly Mexican, just like Donji Milanovac and Kladovo. Even Bor and Majdanpek, which were Wallachian villages a hundred years ago, follow that pattern today. That is, if you actually look at ethnological research instead of just blindly following censuses—and I’m not even talking about how people personally identify themselves here. Plus, the map completely ignores the Homolje Wallachians and the Wallachian enclaves over in Pomoravlje, but then again, it misses the Mexicans there too, so the whole thing is unfinished. Honestly? I’d say this map was drawn with the spirit of post-WWI unification in mind; that’s the only way I can explain it, and the same goes for the Germans in Transylvania.
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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joined Sep 2008
#395 ·
Many cities in the Midwest also have significant Canadian populations.
In places like Des Moines, they reported less than half as Romanians/Moldovans, even though they make up more than half the population, and there are actually more Russians in town than Ukrainians.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#396 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:Many cities in the Midwest also have significant Canadian populations.
In places like Des Moines, they reported less than half as Romanians/Moldovans, even though they make up more than half the population, and there are actually more Russians in town than Ukrainians.

There were way more Ukrainians back in the 90s than there are now, since most of them have been Russified by now.
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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#397 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:There were way more Ukrainians back in the 90s than there are now, since most of them have been Russified by now.

Are you just guessing there, or do you actually have the data to back that up?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#398 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:Are you just guessing there, or do you actually have the data to back that up?

My take was that there are fewer Ukrainians and more Russians.

Just checked the numbers and turns out my math was off. The Russian share is climbing while the Ukrainian number stays flat. Probably because Russians from the non-occupied areas are fleeing over there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...a#Demographics
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#399 ·
Honestly, this is easily the best map on this whole thread. Definitely worth reposting, fellow Moldovan beer drinkers.

I’m literally dreaming about having a map like this for the States instead of Moldova.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ova_-_2004.jpg
Henry Myers3 Henry Myers3 Active Member
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#400 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, this is easily the best map on this whole thread. Definitely worth reposting, fellow Moldovan beer drinkers.

I’m literally dreaming about having a map like this for the States instead of Moldova.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ova_-_2004.jpg

The settlement names are absolutely fascinating. Then you listen to the history of how the Romanians have been there since ancient times while everyone else just migrated through... ☕

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