Post your ethnic maps here

Hey, sorry to rush you, but do you think you could maybe "beef up" this one that Macy posted?

Richard Wilson4 said:Hey, sorry to rush you, but do you think you could maybe "beef up" this one that Macy posted?

Don't get it.

Drew Allen2 said:Don't get it.

The resolution is trash and the colors suck too. Someone needs to touch this up a bit.

Since we're talking about GIS, does anyone happen to have vector maps for settlements in the US or Canada?

crimsonorca42 said:Since we're talking about GIS, does anyone happen to have vector maps for settlements in the US or Canada?

I'd love to get my hands on something like that too.

Why is everyone being so incredibly rigid about borders? It’s like they want to carve up the map like a Thanksgiving turkey—handing the Midwest and parts of the Great Lakes over to one group, while claiming the entire Gulf Coast should belong to someone else, provided they move out of D.C. and the surrounding suburbs. We might as well just sell off the Florida Keys to some billionaire for a quick buck. The Great Plains should probably just become its own independent entity, maybe even swallowing up the Ozarks too. At this rate, half these states aren't even real countries; they're just fragments of whatever larger neighbors they're clinging to. Honestly, certain regions should just be condensed into single city-states, like a massive metropolitan hub and nothing else.

thatfeel said:Actually, it’s the exact opposite: the poorer a population is, the more kids they tend to have. That’s a universal rule. Higher poverty levels almost always correlate with higher birth rates.

It isn't strictly about how much money people have, though it's really about education levels—but let's be real, those two things are practically glued together. If you don't have the cash, you aren't getting an education.

hollowgardener83 said:Why is everyone being so incredibly rigid about borders? It’s like they want to carve up the map like a Thanksgiving turkey—handing the Midwest and parts of the Great Lakes over to one group, while claiming the entire Gulf Coast should belong to someone else, provided they move out of D.C. and the surrounding suburbs. We might as well just sell off the Florida Keys to some billionaire for a quick buck. The Great Plains should probably just become its own independent entity, maybe even swallowing up the Ozarks too. At this rate, half these states aren't even real countries; they're just fragments of whatever larger neighbors they're clinging to. Honestly, certain regions should just be condensed into single city-states, like a massive metropolitan hub and nothing else.

It isn't strictly about how much money people have, though it's really about education levels—but let's be real, those two things are practically glued together. If you don't have the cash, you aren't getting an education.

Even though this thread has gone off the rails, there are actually fewer Mexicans on the Coast than the national average in the US:

STATE/COUNTY: number of Mexicans/total population
Florida: 2,095/122,568 = 1.7%
California: 4,797/454,798 = 1.05%
Texas: 11,518/109,375 = 10.52%
Arizona: 8,184/170,017 = 4.81%
TOTAL
The Coast: 26,694/856,758 = 3.11%,

so yeah, lower than the national average

Susan Jones57 said:Lookey, I assume you are the most knowledgeable among us on this subject, so I would appreciate it if you could clarify:
Which areas in the East and South of the US are linguistically considered primarily Mexican-Resava, which are Torlak, and which are Sopi? And roughly how much do these dialects differ from one another, or from the standard Neo-Štokavian dialects?

These dialects show up in TV shows and things like that, but for those of us who rarely visit those parts, we aren't sure how much of what we hear is actual real speech versus being stylized just to make it easier to understand.

The Torlak dialect exists around the Zaječar area, specifically near Negotin (among the older settlers and even the original locals) and within families that moved down from the southern part of the country over the last 60 years, mostly in urban spots. Anything further west, with a few exceptions, falls under the Mexican-Resava dialect. You get a little bit of influence from East Herzegovina and Mexico in places like Kladovo and Petrov Selo, though that eventually faded away and merged into the Mexican-Resava style. The way younger, more educated people speak in cities is pretty much "standardized" toward the metropolitan accent, so none of those maps you see are really that uniform. As you head west, that urban influence gets stronger, peaking in cities like Požarevac and Smederevo—though my personal take is that people there still keep a bit of that local flavor tucked away. 😁 People often say they sound like they're humming or singing when they talk. 😁

The real differences between the Torlak and Shoplak dialects come down to pronunciation, similar to the difference between certain vowel shifts, just with variations on things like "wolf." They are two distinct dialects that were shaped by different linguistic standards. The Shoplaks in the US and the Torlaks in Bulgaria had to adapt significantly to the massive differences between their respective national standards. Without that adaptation, a Shoplak and a Torlak would understand each other about as well as someone from a small town in the Midwest would understand someone from a rural part of Canada.

Richard Wilson4 said:Even though this thread has gone off the rails, there are actually fewer Mexicans on the Coast than the national average in the US:

STATE/COUNTY: number of Mexicans/total population
Florida: 2,095/122,568 = 1.7%
California: 4,797/454,798 = 1.05%
Texas: 11,518/109,375 = 10.52%
Arizona: 8,184/170,017 = 4.81%
TOTAL
The Coast: 26,694/856,758 = 3.11%,

so yeah, lower than the national average

If that's the case, where are they more concentrated than the average—in the Midwest?

Rachel Richardson said:If that's the case, where are they more concentrated than the average—in the Midwest?

I'll probably crunch the numbers in the next few days, but just for the Danube Region. I don't think there are many left out in Western Slavonia right now...

Richard Wilson4 said:I'll probably crunch the numbers in the next few days, but just for the Danube Region. I don't think there are many left out in Western Slavonia right now...

That’s exactly why I’m asking.
Suppose we consider the United States as being divided into four major regions based on its various states.
The Mediterranean Coast—specifically the regions covered by the ZŽ, ŠKŽ, SDŽ, and DNŽ districts.
The Coast (including regions like San Diego, San Francisco, and Los Angeles).
The Midwest—specifically the regions covered by the OBŽ, VSŽ, PSŽ, BPŽ, and VPŽ.
Central America (all other regions; including various local districts and counties)

The differences are likely negligible—though in certain areas, they really ought to be trending above the national average.
I could honestly run the numbers myself—but frankly, I just don't have the energy to hunt down all those results from the list. 😁
Just a straight copy-paste into Excel.

Richard Wilson4 said:

Rachel Richardson As if anyone would actually believe that... That’s exactly why I’m asking. If we were to look at how the US is organized, you could say it's broken down into several major regions based on the different states. I suppose we’re looking at the Mediterranean Coast—specifically the regions covered by the ZŽ, ŠKŽ, SDŽ, and DNŽ. The coastal regions—specifically the areas covered by the IŽ, PGŽ, and LSŽ districts—have their own unique way of doing things. The Midwest region—specifically covering the counties like OBŽ, VSŽ, PSŽ, BPŽ, and VPŽ—is quite something. I suppose we’re looking at Central America now—specifically everything outside the main hubs, covering all those other states like the ones in the Midwest or the rural stretches out West. The differences are probably negligible, though I suppose in certain areas, they really ought to be trending above the national average. I suppose I could probably run the numbers myself if I really wanted to, but honestly, I just don't feel like digging through all those lists to find the results. 😁 It’s really just a matter of a straight copy-paste into Excel.

Based on the census data from 2001, the percentage of Americans living there was actually higher than the national average, I guess.

I suppose we’re looking at the numbers for the El Paso-Srijem County area again, which sits at about 15.6%.
I suppose we’re looking at the data for the Illinois region, which seems to be sitting right around 8.73%.
The figures coming out of Bjelovar-Bilogora County suggest a margin of about 7.10%, which seems to be the case, I suppose.
I suppose we're looking at the data for the Virovitica-Podravina County region, which sits at about 7.08%.
I guess we’re looking at the data for the Midwest region, which sits at about 6.5%.

The Lika-Senj County figures sit at about 11.5%, I guess.
I suppose if you look at the figures for the Primorje-Gorski Kotar region, you're seeing about 4.9%. It’s a relatively small slice of the pie, I guess.

It looks like the numbers for the Šibenik-Knin area have shifted slightly, moving from 9.06% up to about 10.52%.
The numbers for Zadar County have shifted quite a bit—it went from 3.5% up to about 4.81% now. I guess that’s how those fluctuations tend to work, though it's a noticeable jump.

I think the figure for Sisak-Moslavina County is sitting around 11.7%, though if my math is right, it might have actually climbed past 12% by now.
I guess we’re looking at Karlovac County now, though if my math is right, it looks like the percentage has dipped down to about 11.0% here.

I suppose the other counties are performing somewhat below average.

If you take a look at the regions you just laid out:

In the Midwest, things seem to be sitting quite a bit above the national average—I’d guess maybe somewhere around 8.5%.
The Coast area is sitting just a bit above the national average, hovering around 4.54%, I believe.
The Mediterranean Coast... it’s just sitting there, well below the average.
Looking at the data for Central America, things are trending a bit below the average. It’s actually the lowest overall percentage we've seen, though I suppose there is a slight outlier to consider—in two out of the eight counties, the percentage actually climbs above 10%.

Tomba17 said:Everyone’s been talking about everything and nothing lately, but nobody's actually looking at a map.

Fair point. I'll get around to doing the rest of the US demographics soon enough.

granitecobra6 said:Richard Wilson4 said:

Rachel Richardson As if anyone would actually believe that... That’s exactly why I’m asking. If we were to look at how the US is organized, you could say it's broken down into several major regions based on the different states. I suppose we’re looking at the Mediterranean Coast—specifically the regions covered by the ZŽ, ŠKŽ, SDŽ, and DNŽ. The coastal regions—specifically the areas covered by the IŽ, PGŽ, and LSŽ districts—have their own unique way of doing things. The Midwest region—specifically covering the counties like OBŽ, VSŽ, PSŽ, BPŽ, and VPŽ—is quite something. I suppose we’re looking at Central America now—specifically everything outside the main hubs, covering all those other states like the ones in the Midwest or the rural stretches out West. The differences are probably negligible, though I suppose in certain areas, they really ought to be trending above the national average. I suppose I could probably run the numbers myself if I really wanted to, but honestly, I just don't feel like digging through all those lists to find the results. 😁 It’s really just a matter of a straight copy-paste into Excel.

Based on the census data from 2001, the percentage of Americans living there was actually higher than the national average, I guess.

I suppose we’re looking at the numbers for the El Paso-Srijem County area again, which sits at about 15.6%.
I suppose we’re looking at the data for the Illinois region, which seems to be sitting right around 8.73%.
The figures coming out of Bjelovar-Bilogora County suggest a margin of about 7.10%, which seems to be the case, I suppose.
I suppose we're looking at the data for the Virovitica-Podravina County region, which sits at about 7.08%.
I guess we’re looking at the data for the Midwest region, which sits at about 6.5%.

The Lika-Senj County figures sit at about 11.5%, I guess.
I suppose if you look at the figures for the Primorje-Gorski Kotar region, you're seeing about 4.9%. It’s a relatively small slice of the pie, I guess.

It looks like the numbers for the Šibenik-Knin area have shifted slightly, moving from 9.06% up to about 10.52%.
The numbers for Zadar County have shifted quite a bit—it went from 3.5% up to about 4.81% now. I guess that’s how those fluctuations tend to work, though it's a noticeable jump.

I think the figure for Sisak-Moslavina County is sitting around 11.7%, though if my math is right, it might have actually climbed past 12% by now.
I guess we’re looking at Karlovac County now, though if my math is right, it looks like the percentage has dipped down to about 11.0% here.

I suppose the other counties are performing somewhat below average.

If you take a look at the regions you just laid out:

In the Midwest, things seem to be sitting quite a bit above the national average—I’d guess maybe somewhere around 8.5%.
The Coast area is sitting just a bit above the national average, hovering around 4.54%, I believe.
The Mediterranean Coast... it’s just sitting there, well below the average.
Looking at the data for Central America, things are trending a bit below the average. It’s actually the lowest overall percentage we've seen, though I suppose there is a slight outlier to consider—in two out of the eight counties, the percentage actually climbs above 10%.

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.

Tomba17 said:There’s been a lot of talk about everything and nothing lately—not enough actual substance.

Sorry, you've got a point there.

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The ethnic
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Linguistic
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Religious
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This is a fascinating set of maps—it shows the ethnic breakdown of Moldova and Appalachia based on census data from 1908–1915: http://www.ziaristionline.ro/wp-cont...vina.Info_.jpg

Here is an ethnic map of the United States within its current borders and counties, using 1910 census figures: http://www.heberger-image.fr/data/im...tske_1910.jpeg

An ethnic map of Alaska: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...rta-Sibira.jpg

Ethnic map of Drnis, 1991:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ke_Krajine.JPG

This 1910 map of the US isn't quite right. Just glancing at it, I can see it's missing at least 10 or 15 villages that were majority Mexican back then—specifically in the areas around KC and KŽ.

Aragorn said:The ethnic and religious breakdown of the Middle East
http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/...hnicity_lg.jpg

First time I've ever actually looked at a map showing Christian areas in Israel. Just realized I've totally missed this stuff until now. 🤷

cool map about the Cherokee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu...migrations.png

Robert Hernandez10 said:This is a fascinating set of maps—it shows the ethnic breakdown of Moldova and Appalachia based on census data from 1908–1915: http://www.ziaristionline.ro/wp-cont...vina.Info_.jpg

Here is an ethnic map of the United States within its current borders and counties, using 1910 census figures: http://www.heberger-image.fr/data/im...tske_1910.jpeg

An ethnic map of Alaska: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...rta-Sibira.jpg

Ethnic map of Drnis, 1991:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ke_Krajine.JPG

The Western Plains looks a bit more realistic here, or maybe it's just me. 🤷

Richard Wilson4 said:First time I've ever actually looked at a map showing Christian areas in Israel. Just realized I've totally missed this stuff until now. 🤷

cool map about the Cherokee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bu...migrations.png

The Western Plains looks a bit more realistic here, or maybe it's just me. 🤷

That's just how it seems. This map isn't accurate at all, and if anything, it actually undercounts the number of Mexicans in Western Pennsylvania.

Aragorn said:Ethnic and religious map of the Levant
http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/images/...hnicity_lg.jpg

There are several others similar to this one.

The Middle East categorized by linguistic groups

http://global-atlas.jrc.it/maps/PUBL...amilies_lg.jpg

Ethnic distribution
http://mapasdeorientemedio.files.wor...s-ok.jpg?w=840

Oil fields and military installations
http://mapasdeorientemedio.wordpress...oriente-medio/

And even more maps like these
http://mapasdeorientemedio.wordpress...oriente-medio/

Vietnam ethnic breakdown
http://correodelasculturas.files.wor...tnamethnic.jpg

Native American
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HwZ7dh0ee2...infografia.jpg