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Henry Myers3 said:The settlement names are absolutely fascinating. Then you listen to the history of how the Romanians have been there since ancient times while everyone else just migrated through... ☕

I remember one night I was watching Chelsea FC play Steaua Bucharest... looking at the substitute list on the screen, and there was this one Steaua Bucharest player with the last name Prepeliţa 😁

This one also really struck me:

http://wikimapia.org/9489519/ro/Bise...cenic-Gheorghe

Saint George Church = the church of Saint George the Great MARTYR George

crimsonorca42 said:I remember one night I was watching Chelsea FC play Steaua Bucharest... looking at the substitute list on the screen, and there was this one Steaua Bucharest player with the last name Prepeliţa 😁

This one also really struck me:

http://wikimapia.org/9489519/ro/Bise...cenic-Gheorghe

Saint George Church = the church of Saint George the Great MARTYR George

For centuries, the literary language in Romania was Old Church Slavonic. Most of their literature used to come out of Russia. About 200 years ago, Romanians transitioned to the Latin alphabet and started using their vernacular as the formal literary tongue. I suppose they just kept those old Slavic terms within the church settings, though.

granitecobra6 said:For centuries, the literary language in Romania was Old Church Slavonic. Most of their literature used to come out of Russia. About 200 years ago, Romanians transitioned to the Latin alphabet and started using their vernacular as the formal literary tongue. I suppose they just kept those old Slavic terms within the church settings, though.

During the 19th century, there was a massive movement to purge the language of all Slavic influences—which actually made up a significant portion of the vocabulary—replacing them with either newly coined terms or loanwords borrowed from French. Even today, you can still hear a heavy influx of French words being integrated into everyday speech.

Susan Peterson7 said:During the 19th century, there was a massive movement to purge the language of all Slavic influences—which actually made up a significant portion of the vocabulary—replacing them with either newly coined terms or loanwords borrowed from French. Even today, you can still hear a heavy influx of French words being integrated into everyday speech.

There’s really nothing wrong with that. Even the Turks did the exact same thing after WWI.

Susan Peterson7 said:During the 19th century, there was a massive movement to purge the language of all Slavic influences—which actually made up a significant portion of the vocabulary—replacing them with either newly coined terms or loanwords borrowed from French. Even today, you can still hear a heavy influx of French words being integrated into everyday speech.

True, except they had to be incredibly aggressive about it. At the start of the 1800s, about half of their vocabulary was still Slavic. Nowadays, they claim to have only a few hundred Slavic words left in their language... which is all the proof you need that they are pure Roman descendants.☕

crimsonorca42 said:I remember one night I was watching Chelsea FC play Steaua Bucharest... looking at the substitute list on the screen, and there was this one Steaua Bucharest player with the last name Prepeliţa 😁

This one also really struck me:

http://wikimapia.org/9489519/ro/Bise...cenic-Gheorghe

Saint George Church = the church of Saint George the Great MARTYR George

Romanians have at least a fifth of their vocabulary coming straight from Slavic languages.

Richard Wilson4 said:There’s really nothing wrong with that. Even the Turks did the exact same thing after WWI.

What kind of words were the Turks actually purging from their language? Maybe some Greek influence. Arabic, sure, but definitely not Slavic. Out of all the shared vocabulary between Slavs and Turks, I'm only really questioning things like cherry, rain, or quince (maybe a few others, but they aren't coming to me right now), because I honestly can't tell if those are Slavic or Turkish in origin. Former American languages still use up to 15,000 Turkish loanwords—Mexicans can just stuff themselves with those for all I care.

Alexander Cox3 said:What kind of words were the Turks actually purging from their language? Maybe some Greek influence. Arabic, sure, but definitely not Slavic. Out of all the shared vocabulary between Slavs and Turks, I'm only really questioning things like cherry, rain, or quince (maybe a few others, but they aren't coming to me right now), because I honestly can't tell if those are Slavic or Turkish in origin. Former American languages still use up to 15,000 Turkish loanwords—Mexicans can just stuff themselves with those for all I care.

Arabic, man. I don't get how you mixed that up. I was talking about words being dropped, not the whole language.😁

Alexander Cox3 said:What kind of words were the Turks actually purging from their language? Maybe some Greek influence. Arabic, sure, but definitely not Slavic. Out of all the shared vocabulary between Slavs and Turks, I'm only really questioning things like cherry, rain, or quince (maybe a few others, but they aren't coming to me right now), because I honestly can't tell if those are Slavic or Turkish in origin. Former American languages still use up to 15,000 Turkish loanwords—Mexicans can just stuff themselves with those for all I care.

The word "Višnja" is undoubtedly of Slavic origin, yet there's a curious linguistic anomaly here. The term for rain exists across all Slavic languages, but its specific iteration in this dialect is unique. This leads me to wonder if we are actually looking at a loanword from Turkish, perhaps derived from their specific term for winter. Is it possible that what we perceive as native is actually just a linguistic relic from a different influence?

Richard Wilson4 said:There’s really nothing wrong with that. Even the Turks did the exact same thing after WWI.

Of course, there’s nothing inherently wrong or particularly unusual about this. Every nation eventually goes through these phases where they try to purge foreign influences from their language. It was a massive, widespread movement throughout the 19th century. Why should anyone expect anything different now?

copperdriver10 said:Haha, you could say that. Honestly, even areas like the Ozarks or large stretches of the Midwest are practically ghost towns. But hey, it's just Wikipedia..

But we're talking about the 11th century here. A hundred years later, you've got Huns, Avars, Magyars, and those old Germanic tribes sweeping through. It's hardly surprising...

Richard Wilson4 said:Look, let's be real—data on the Great Plains during the era of early American rulers is super thin, if it even exists at all.
Sure, coastal cities had an edge because they were hubs of literacy and connected to the West, but it's totally plausible the Great Plains were sparsely populated back then since there was zero natural defense.

Plus, those low-lying areas were constantly plagued by flooding, swamps, mosquitoes, and malaria, which took an absolute toll on both the people and their livestock...

Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, this is easily the best map on this whole thread. Definitely worth reposting, fellow Moldovan beer drinkers.

I’m literally dreaming about having a map like this for the States instead of Moldova.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ova_-_2004.jpg

Maybe one day I'll make that wish of yours come true. Maybe.

Drew Allen2 said:Maybe one day I'll make that wish of yours come true. Maybe.

Thanks. Regardless if we're talking about '91 or 2011, I'd definitely take the first one over the second.

Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, this is easily the best map on this whole thread. Definitely worth reposting, fellow Moldovan beer drinkers.

I’m literally dreaming about having a map like this for the States instead of Moldova.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ova_-_2004.jpg

We already have one just like that for Canada.

Scott Cruz4 said:We already have one just like that for Canada.

Yeah, even if it isn't as pretty or easy to navigate as Moldova.

Scott Cruz4 said:We already have one just like that for Canada.

I once had a version printed out in a large format on paper... and I found it quite easy to navigate and read.😁

I can't quite recall if this was the one....link

Richard Wilson4 said:Thanks. Regardless if we're talking about '91 or 2011, I'd definitely take the first one over the second.

Here you go...
link

ironmoose6 said:Here you go...
link

Thanks, though it's not quite what I was looking for. 🙂
What kind of criteria are we talking about here? Is it municipalities or just the county seats? I'm guessing the latter.

Too bad there aren't municipal borders included.

Richard Wilson4 said:Thanks. Regardless if we're talking about '91 or 2011, I'd definitely take the first one over the second.

Morales, you'll be waiting a while for the upload. 😢 It could be pushed to GIS relatively quickly. I managed to migrate all the settlements into Excel, so a huge chunk of the work is done. The main issue now is that I don't have the map in GIS format. I don't have the time to manually plot six or seven thousand settlements. There might be a program that can generate them based on the map I currently have—not sure how good or efficient it actually is, but there's a possibility for the future. Two options. The problem is option one takes way too long, and option two costs money, and I'm not getting paid to buy software. :P At the end of the day, most of the map is missing, so you'll just have to wait for some other projects I'm working on. 🙂

The 1953 US data for counties and districts is going to take a long time. But mostly, it's finished... There are other archival items that aren't ready yet either. 🙂 Also, there's a bit of a surprise coming relatively soon—in less than a month—some completely different maps. 🙂