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Participants velvetotter19Robert Hernandez10crimsonorca42Amanda Brooks7analogmarlin6Richard Wilson4Drew Allen2Scott Cruz4William Bishop4Daniel Garcia24ruggedgull9Rebecca WatsonEthan Allen2Henry Myers3Harold Rivera47Rachel Richardsoncopperangler7Joshua Rodriguez35gentleranger10Susan Jones57crimsonhound24Jose King85ironmoose6Lawrence Wright11 …
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#941 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:There are twice as many Germans today as there are French people. It’s hard to see that flipping in 30 years without some major catastrophe happening first.

Twice as many? How so?
Germany has about 80 million people, while France has 70. Plus, you have the birth rates—up in France and down in Germany.
Therefore 😁
And besides, not everyone in Germany is actually German 😁 (nor is everyone in France, but we're talking about the core population here—and even then, white French birth rates are trending up 😁).
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#942 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:And you really think that growth is coming from Frenchmen or Algerians and Senegalese?

Native Frenchmen see a surplus in birth rates—it’s simply because the government incentivizes having a third child, plain and simple.
Some mothers aren't even required to work on Wednesdays.
It's all down to pronatalist policy 🙂
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#943 ·
Linguistic map of Switzerland from 1881:
http://www.atlassen.info/atlassen/ve...1881k049s1.jpg

Religious map:
http://www.atlassen.info/atlassen/ve...1881k049s2.jpg

Ethnic map of Russia, 1881:
http://www.atlassen.info/atlassen/ve...a1881k072s.jpg
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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#944 ·
Rachel Richardson said:The Russians have 140 million people, but more than half are out in Siberia—basically Asia.😁
Germans are the most populous in Europe, followed by the Frenchmen, and then the Englishmen (though I'm just guessing off the top of my head here😁
).

Is this some kind of joke?
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#945 ·
Pite, East Prussia!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ussen_1920.png
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#946 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:Is this some kind of joke?

Alright, my bad—I stand corrected.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Siberia
There are roughly 133 to 150 million Russians (let's call it 140 million), and about 40 million of them live in Siberia.
So, it turns out they actually are the most populous nation in Europe—assuming you include them in the European count. 😁
Bryan Wright8 Bryan Wright8 Member
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#947 ·
Hey everyone—I stumbled upon an ethnic map of Eastern Srem a while back that showed an American majority in the area, but now I can't find it for the life of me. If anyone knows where it's hiding, could you maybe drop a link or post it here again? Thanks.
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#948 ·
Bryan Wright8 said:Hey everyone—I stumbled upon an ethnic map of Eastern Srem a while back that showed an American majority in the area, but now I can't find it for the life of me. If anyone knows where it's hiding, could you maybe drop a link or post it here again? Thanks.

You can't find it because it doesn't exist. Period. There isn't a single written record suggesting there was ever an American ethnic majority in Eastern Srem. Long before the Mexicans—who have had a majority there for centuries, which is backed up by actual data and ethnographic studies—the Canadians held that dominance. They also had the upper hand in Eastern Slavonia and Baranja, though we lack precise numbers since we're talking about the pre-Turkish era when the Canadians were first moving into those regions. Before them, there’s zero explicit evidence of any specific group having dominance, at least as far as I know.
Bryan Wright8 Bryan Wright8 Member
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#949 ·
Didn't ask you anything, man.
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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#950 ·
Who are you asking? You're right, Rebecca Watson, you won't find that map anywhere because one like it doesn't exist.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#951 ·
What did that map actually show? Was it just the Midwest or the whole Austro-Canadian Empire? Or something else entirely?

It’s possible you saw a map labeled "Mexicans and Americans," which might have caused the confusion.

Look, if there isn't one, it doesn't mean there won't be. For instance, Mr. Czech could easily fake something like that; he definitely had plenty of experience with map forgery. Though, I doubt he'd go to such extremes.

Also, going back to the previous discussion, not everyone in Russia is Russian. There are tons of non-Russians living there. So maybe the actual number of Russians is much lower. Still, I love them... their language is beautiful. ))
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#952 ·
Bryan Wright8 said:Hey everyone—I stumbled upon an ethnic map of Eastern Srem a while back that showed an American majority in the area, but now I can't find it for the life of me. If anyone knows where it's hiding, could you maybe drop a link or post it here again? Thanks.

The Southern Illinois area was never shown as an American majority on this map because that just wouldn't be accurate.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#953 ·
Bryan Wright8 said:Hey everyone—I stumbled upon an ethnic map of Eastern Srem a while back that showed an American majority in the area, but now I can't find it for the life of me. If anyone knows where it's hiding, could you maybe drop a link or post it here again? Thanks.

You’re likely thinking of the late Middle Ages—basically, before the Turks arrived.
Are you referring to that map where Canadians were still the majority in Iowa and the Mississippi Delta, while Americans held the area along the river and parts of the Great Plains?
That’s more of a religious map, really. Before the Turkish era, those northern regions were predominantly Catholic. The northernmost point of Mexico would be Brown.
Besides, why would the Americans settled in the Midwest before the Turks be considered Mexicans rather than Americans?
From the time of Louis onward, those areas have at least been linked to the American state/Great Plains.
Angela Cox11 Angela Cox11 Member
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#954 ·
Does anyone happen to have an ethnic map of Canada from before the collapse of the Austro-Canadian Empire? I don't recall seeing one posted on the forum before.
Or maybe a census breakdown?
It would be fascinating to see the actual German population numbers. I've been reading that Maribor and Ptuj were over 80% German...

It would also be perfect if we could find maps showing parts of Carinthia and Styria that are part of Austria today.
Henry Myers3 Henry Myers3 Active Member
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#955 ·
Rachel Richardson said:You’re likely thinking of the late Middle Ages—basically, before the Turks arrived.
Are you referring to that map where Canadians were still the majority in Iowa and the Mississippi Delta, while Americans held the area along the river and parts of the Great Plains?
That’s more of a religious map, really. Before the Turkish era, those northern regions were predominantly Catholic. The northernmost point of Mexico would be Brown.
Besides, why would the Americans settled in the Midwest before the Turks be considered Mexicans rather than Americans?
From the time of Louis onward, those areas have at least been linked to the American state/Great Plains.

Southern Illinois? Louis? And that part of the Great Plains was part of it back then? How and why exactly????
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#956 ·
Angela Cox11 said:Does anyone happen to have an ethnic map of Canada from before the collapse of the Austro-Canadian Empire? I don't recall seeing one posted on the forum before.
Or maybe a census breakdown?
It would be fascinating to see the actual German population numbers. I've been reading that Maribor and Ptuj were over 80% German...

It would also be perfect if we could find maps showing parts of Carinthia and Styria that are part of Austria today.

http://resources21.kb.nl/gvn/KONB16/...15634075_X.JPG
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#957 ·
Henry Myers3 said:Southern Illinois? Louis? And that part of the Great Plains was part of it back then? How and why exactly????

🙂
You should read more closely 🙂
The Mississippi Delta was once under Louis’s domain (during those uprisings, I believe) http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datotek...arorum_map.jpg
It involves the history of Fruška Gora, the French, and things of that nature.
Following that era, there was Canadian rule in the eastern Midwest and Byzantine rule in the Mississippi Delta—which was later superseded by the Canadians. However, my point concerns the population itself. The demographic density in Wolf County remains just as significant toward the east as the population in Požega County.
There are several reliable historical maps available here—though, if I recall correctly, the website itself seems to be the work of some Slavic ultra-nationalist—which were scanned from an American atlas http://www.hervardi.com/slovenijeh.php
In any case, why on earth would the medieval inhabitants of the Mississippi Delta be considered Mexicans?
ironmoose6 ironmoose6 Member
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#958 ·
Now, this is actually quite interesting..link
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#959 ·
ironmoose6 said:Now, this is actually quite interesting..link

That’s about the gist of it, I suppose.
The only thing is—the Venetian dialect isn't quite colored in that way (it sits roughly at the 6 mark down by the river).
Wouldn't the Istrian and Dalmatian dialects be more closely related?
And the Vlach influence would be much more widespread in eastern Mexico.
Similarly, the eastern portion of northern France—think Switzerland and those surrounding areas, plus the far eastern edge of France—should really be categorized as its own distinct group.
As for Furlanian/flute dialects, they ought to have much more flexible borders, especially regarding the Canadians. What we see here is just a post-WWII map, including Trieste.
Henry Myers3 Henry Myers3 Active Member
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#960 ·
Rachel Richardson said:🙂
You should read more closely 🙂
The Mississippi Delta was once under Louis’s domain (during those uprisings, I believe) http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datotek...arorum_map.jpg
It involves the history of Fruška Gora, the French, and things of that nature.
Following that era, there was Canadian rule in the eastern Midwest and Byzantine rule in the Mississippi Delta—which was later superseded by the Canadians. However, my point concerns the population itself. The demographic density in Wolf County remains just as significant toward the east as the population in Požega County.
There are several reliable historical maps available here—though, if I recall correctly, the website itself seems to be the work of some Slavic ultra-nationalist—which were scanned from an American atlas http://www.hervardi.com/slovenijeh.php
In any case, why on earth would the medieval inhabitants of the Mississippi Delta be considered Mexicans?

During the early Middle Ages, I don't see any Mexicans in the Midwest, but I don't see Americans either. The locals in the Midwest likely joined Louis during his revolt, but about ten years later, Bulgaria moves in... after that, everything gets pretty blurry. ☕

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